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Why God Is Not Omniscient, Omnipotent, Omnipresent And Why There Is No Sin by benzics(m): 4:18pm On Feb 02, 2017
Hello wink

It's been a while here though.. Let's just go straight to the topic..

NB: We heathens do not believe in gods, but for the sake of argument, let's assume he's real

You've probably heard theists yapping about how God is all powerful, all knowing and all good, even though their various books do not agree with that, they just choose "blind faith", like what kind of an all good God kills innocent souls because some people are guilty??

Let's hit the nail on the head..

God is not Omnipotent / All powerful

From the beginning of the Bible, Genesis, it proved God is not omnipotent, because he created the earth in "6 days" and RESTED on the seventh day... Couldn't he have created everything within the twinkle of an eye? And why does an all powerful being need rest? Probably because he is not all powerful after all.. .

God is not Omniscient or Omni-knoweth and omnipresent

Remember when he was asking Adam and Eve why they were hiding? And he got mad when he discovered that they've eaten the forbidden fruit? This proves he didn't know when Adam and Eve were eating the fruit, or maybe he knew and was just trying to confirm (wait, this means he wasn't sure ), or he was sure but just trying to fu-ck with them, which makes him a joker!

God is not all good

A God who could order the killings of little kids by bears just because they mocked his prophet is everything but Good..

A God who could allow things like the Holocaust, WWII, ISIS, EBOLA, AIDS is not an all good God..

A God whom already knows your climax but just trying to fu-ck with your life is a real joker, he already knows you are going to hell but still creates you to go to hell, is that one a good God? undecided

Is God really all knowing?
(Don't mind this one o grin)

Does God know how men feel when they "cum" and how women feel when they orgasm, grin , does God know how it feels to suck on a nice b-itchy titties?? cheesy If Yes, then God is not all good, and if no, then God is not all knowing..
(a reference by Darkmatter)

Why there is no sin

Religion made us to understand that before we were "created", God has already planned our lives, and EVERYTHING that happens is according to God's grand plan.. Which means isis is just a part of God's plan , aids, hiv, just everything is going as planned by God.. So why do you theists still term people as "sinners", when in fact they cannot choose to not do what "God has planned", so you see, it's really not their fault, but God's plan, and curse you if you go against his plans .. ...


Hopefullandlord , hahn, jonbellion, felixomor, kingebukasblog, randomperson, and y'all "infidels", come in here or burn for eternity!!! angry remember I love you kiss kiss grin

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Re: Why God Is Not Omniscient, Omnipotent, Omnipresent And Why There Is No Sin by hushshinani(m): 4:24pm On Feb 02, 2017
eh stop there... seeeeeeeeeeek knowledge.....

read both bible and quran to understand the world....


God is not of this world...
Re: Why God Is Not Omniscient, Omnipotent, Omnipresent And Why There Is No Sin by benzics(m): 4:32pm On Feb 02, 2017
hushshinani:
eh stop there... seeeeeeeeeeek knowledge.....

read both bible and quran to understand the world....
Wow, is it the same bible and Quran that will say "kill infidels" and you'll all interpret it as "buy food for infidels"?? We know those books more than you do.. wink

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Re: Why God Is Not Omniscient, Omnipotent, Omnipresent And Why There Is No Sin by hahn(m): 4:33pm On Feb 02, 2017
God is crazy

That's for sure

A crazy imaginary friend

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Re: Why God Is Not Omniscient, Omnipotent, Omnipresent And Why There Is No Sin by hushshinani(m): 4:42pm On Feb 02, 2017
benzics:

Wow, is it the same bible and Quran that will say "kill infidels" and you'll all interpret it as "buy food for infidels"?? We know those books more than you do.. wink
we are all God's slaves that he never want any harm to befall us...

If u die due to your stipidity, you'll go to hell (if you see someone that want to harm you and you allowed him to)

And God says if someone want to attack you attack him too but never attack him first
Re: Why God Is Not Omniscient, Omnipotent, Omnipresent And Why There Is No Sin by hopefulLandlord: 4:58pm On Feb 02, 2017
One of the more amusing aspects of the Solomon story is the end of his life when after talking to God and seeing God live in the building Solomon made for him, Solomon starts to worship other gods and the omniscient God says, "Okay, fine, if you want to worship other gods, I'm going to take part of the kingdom from you and give it to this other guy Jeroboam... who is also going to worship false gods and do more evil than you... but then I'll take the kingdom from him and give it to another guy who will be worse and worship even more false gods, but then I'll take it from him and give it to a new guy who will be the worst of all of you... that'll show you people... yeah...."

does this sound like an omniscient god?

And if he's supposed to be omniscient, why is he even upset with humanity in the first place? He created the people fully knowing what they would eventually do.

An all knowing god can't be shocked or upset by what its creatures do. It would have known before starting what the outcome would be. It would be like Pacman's creator being surprised that Pac can gobble ghosts after eating one of the power-up dots.

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Re: Why God Is Not Omniscient, Omnipotent, Omnipresent And Why There Is No Sin by Nobody: 4:59pm On Feb 02, 2017
God reveals his true self to those who diligently seek him. He leaves people like you to guess who he is.
So my advice; if you wanna know who God really is, seek him in spirit by giving your life to him
#Shalom
Re: Why God Is Not Omniscient, Omnipotent, Omnipresent And Why There Is No Sin by hopefulLandlord: 5:04pm On Feb 02, 2017
TsaTrinity:
God reveals his true self to those who diligently seek him. He leaves people like you to guess who he is.
So my advice; if you wanna know who God really is, seek him in spirit by giving your life to him
#Shalom

there's no use seeking him because the bible you got that instruction from is a book of fairytales

its like me telling you to diligently seek Harry Potter because its written in the book

I am an atheist. I don’t believe in gods. None of them. Not yours, not theirs, not that one or this one. There is no evidence that gods exist. Period. I didn't start out atheist. I was raised Christian, and stayed that way until my early teens, when I started questioning and reading.

I haven’t prejudged anything, I came to these conclusions years ago after a whole lot of research. So far, I haven’t seen or heard any new arguments that persuade me to buy into religion. For me to believe the stories of the Bible are divine inspiration, I would first have to believe in the divine.

Clearly I don’t insist on Genesis being historical. Not a problem for me, but I live in a country where over 96% of the population believe in Adam and Eve, Noah, angles and demons as real and/or historical beings. That may not describe you, but that is way too many people who fail to connect with reality as far as I’m concerned.

There is nothing I've read or heard about that makes the mythology of a miracle working Jesus at all real for me. There are at least two common scenarios for these stories.

1. Jesus was the son of god, born of a virgin, worked miracles and was resurrected after his execution by the Romans

OR

2. That was all made up, because we know that those kinds of stories were common in the day, and everyone of any importance was some kind of magic worker, son of a god or brought back to life.

Our understanding of reality, and the complete dearth of evidence for any of the above makes it easy for me to pick a side on this.

I happen to know many modern intelligent people who believe this nonsense. Some of them are involved in science and have no problem partitioning their mind so as to hold science and reason while also embracing some form of religion including Christianity. Some are friends and some are family. I suggest that your mind reading skills are lacking. (That’s OK because I don’t believe in mind reading either). I think it unlikely in the extreme that god(s) spoke to anyone, even thousands of years ago because as of yet there is no evidence for said god(s).

The Bible is written just the way I would expect the book to be written if it was put together by men (who knows, maybe some women, too) 2000 to 2500 years ago who had limited understanding of the world. There is nothing in it that speaks of inspiration except perhaps in the story telling aspect, but really nothing revealing or earth shattering, though I rather like some of Ecclesiastes and if you cherry pick the New Testament, there is some decent material there, though much of it can be found in many other writings.

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Re: Why God Is Not Omniscient, Omnipotent, Omnipresent And Why There Is No Sin by benzics(m): 6:24pm On Feb 02, 2017
hushshinani:
we are all God's slaves that he never want any harm to befall us...

If u die due to your stipidity, you'll go to hell (if you see someone that want to harm you and you allowed him to)

And God says if someone want to attack you attack him too but never attack him first
Except the time Mohammed attacked the people in Medina for not sharing his beliefs.. . Except the time Moses killed people in their own land..

. You are "god's" slave not "we"...

Yeah, God doesn't want harm to befall his people, except when he allowed the Holocaust and oh, when a church in Abuja was bombed on a Christmas day.. Yeah, right, God doesn't want any harm to befall his people, amen! smiley

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Re: Why God Is Not Omniscient, Omnipotent, Omnipresent And Why There Is No Sin by HCpaul(m): 11:56pm On Feb 02, 2017
hushshinani:
eh stop there... seeeeeeeeeeek knowledge.....

read both bible and quran to understand the world....


God is not of this world...

True talk.... Our mind is God's habitable place.
Re: Why God Is Not Omniscient, Omnipotent, Omnipresent And Why There Is No Sin by hopefulLandlord: 10:16am On Feb 03, 2017
benzics:

Except the time Mohammed attacked the people in Medina for not sharing his beliefs.. . Except the time Moses killed people in their own land..

. You are "god's" slave not "we"...

Yeah, God doesn't want harm to befall his people, except when he allowed the Holocaust and oh, when a church in Abuja was bombed on a Christmas day.. Yeah, right, God doesn't want any harm to befall his people, amen! smiley


lol
Re: Why God Is Not Omniscient, Omnipotent, Omnipresent And Why There Is No Sin by delishpot: 5:07pm On Feb 03, 2017
God is all that. Just that people miss understand how it works.
God is a force, an energy. It feels our inner soul, there is a way your soul vibrates and it reaches the energy force called God. That force/ energy would answer to the rich, the sick, the poor and the healthy. Anyone from any religion. It doesn't discriminate. A dying man's Or a man in danger vibrational energy would resonate with God energy and he is saved whille another's vibe may not get to that level then we wonder where was God if he isn't saved. One broke man's vibe from his desperation for deliverance may align with God energy and things turn around for him while another s may not vibrate at hat level and his prayers or desires go unanswered.
That force responds to all humanity no mater your beliefs as long as your vibe can resonate at the same level or frequency as God energy.
To maximise this posibility, that is why people organize to pray in groups. Someone's vibe in that prayer circle may be at the same level with the God energy and align. Making the desire and aim of the prayer fulfilled.
Even in our daily lives some times our vibes aligns with God energy and the desire is met(it may not be a prayer, just a wish, thought or desire) a passing thought and it happens as desired. While some times, even prayers may not change anything if one does not hit that viberational level with God energy . So, I guess that is why the good book says, pray without ceasing. You never know when that prayer, wish, desire vibe would align you with God force/energy and then bam, your wish is granted cool
I wouldn't say there is no God, I would say we have been taught wrong by those in charge who turn the truth around to decieve people to keep them in darkness so no one tries to resonate with God.
Re: Why God Is Not Omniscient, Omnipotent, Omnipresent And Why There Is No Sin by jmoore(m): 5:29pm On Feb 03, 2017
Delusional atheists!!! Always busy in subject matter they don't believe in.
undecided
Re: Why God Is Not Omniscient, Omnipotent, Omnipresent And Why There Is No Sin by hopefulLandlord: 8:05pm On Feb 03, 2017
jmoore:
Delusional atheists!!! Always busy in subject matter they don't believe in.
undecided

we want freedom of religion and freedom FROM religion

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Re: Why God Is Not Omniscient, Omnipotent, Omnipresent And Why There Is No Sin by oaroloye(m): 12:18pm On Oct 17, 2019
MISHIGAS!

When Sinners are smart, they are not very smart. But when Sinners are stupid, they are extremely stupid.

benzics:
Hello wink

It's been a while here though.. Let's just go straight to the topic..

NB: We heathens do not believe in gods, but for the sake of argument, let's assume he's real

You've probably heard theists yapping about how God is all powerful, all knowing and all good, even though their various books do not agree with that, they just choose "blind faith", like what kind of an all good God kills innocent souls because some people are guilty??

Let's hit the nail on the head..

God is not Omnipotent / All powerful

From the beginning of the Bible, Genesis, it proved God is not omnipotent, because he created the earth in "6 days" and RESTED on the seventh day... Couldn't he have created everything within the twinkle of an eye? And why does an all powerful being need rest? Probably because he is not all powerful after all.. .

God is not Omniscient or Omni-knoweth and omnipresent

Remember when he was asking Adam and Eve why they were hiding? And he got mad when he discovered that they've eaten the forbidden fruit? This proves he didn't know when Adam and Eve were eating the fruit, or maybe he knew and was just trying to confirm (wait, this means he wasn't sure ), or he was sure but just trying to fu-ck with them, which makes him a joker!



THIS IS CALLED A STRAW-MAN ARGUMENT: THE ANTAGONIST MAKES UP POINTS THAT DO NOT EXIST, THEN MAKES A SHOW OF DEBUNKING THEM!

Since those points never existed in the first place, no real work has actually been done!

God is not Omni-Anything!

God IS NOT Omniscient, or All-Knowing.
God is NOT Omnipresent, or Present everywhere.
God is NOT Omnipotent, or Unlimitedly-Powerful.

. GENESIS 3:8.

8. And they heard the Voice
of The LORD God walking
in the Garden in the cool of the day:
and Adam and his wife
hid themselves from
the Presence of The LORD God
amongst the trees of the Garden.

. GENESIS 11:5.

5. And The LORD came down
to see the City and the Tower,
which the Children of Men builded.

. GENESIS 18:20-21.

20. And The LORD Said,

"Because the Cry
of Sodom and Gomorrah is great,
and because their Sin
is very grievous;
21. "I will go down now,
and See whether
they have done altogether
according to the Cry of it,
which is come unto Me;
and if not, I will know."

Therefore, those who HATE GOD are going to be confused by the Scriptures. If you do not understand them, it is because you are Evil.

. JOB 28:28.

28. "And unto Man He Said,

'BEHOLD,
THE FEAR OF THE LORD,
THAT IS WISDOM;
AND TO DEPART FROM EVIL,
IS UNDERSTANDING.' "


. JOB 39:13-18.

13. "Gavest thou the goodly wings
unto the peacocks?
or wings and feathers
unto the ostrich?
14. "Which leaveth
her eggs in the earth,
and warmeth them in dust,
15. "And forgetteth
that the foot may crush them,
or that the wild beast
may break them.
16. "She is hardened
against her young ones,
as though they were not her's:
her labour is in vain without fear;
17. "Because God hath
deprived her of Wisdom,
neither hath He
imparted to her Understanding.
18." What time she
lifteth up herself on high,
she scorneth
the horse and his rider."

. PSALM 111:10.

10. The Fear of The LORD
is The Beginning of Wisdom:
a Good Understanding
have all they
that do His Commandments:
His Praise endureth for ever.

. PROVERBS 1:7.

7. The Fear of The LORD
is The Beginning of Knowledge:
but Fools despise
Wisdom and Instruction.

. PROVERBS 9:10.

10. The Fear of The LORD
is The Beginning of Wisdom:
and The Knowledge of
The Holy is Understanding.

.   ISAIAH 55:6-11.

6. Seek ye The LORD,
while He may be found,
call ye upon Him
while He is near.
7. Let the Wicked
forsake his Way,
and the Unrighteous Man
his Thoughts:
and let him return
unto The LORD,
and He will have Mercy
upon him;
and to our God,
for He will abundantly pardon.

8. "FOR MY THOUGHTS
(ARE) NOT YOUR THOUGHTS,
NEITHER ARE YOUR WAYS
MY WAYS," saith The LORD.
9. "FOR (AS) THE HEAVENS
ARE HIGHER
THAN THE EARTH,
SO ARE MY WAYS
HIGHER THAN YOUR WAYS,
AND MY THOUGHTS
THAN YOUR THOUGHTS.


10. "For as the rain
cometh down,
and the snow from Heaven,
and returneth not thither,
but watereth the earth,
and maketh it bring forth
and bud,
that it may give seed
to the Sower,
and bread to the Eater:
11. "So shall My Word be
that goeth forth
out of My Mouth:
It shall not
return unto Me void,
but It shall accomplish
that which I please,
and It shall prosper
(in the thing)
whereto I sent It."

. DANIEL 12:2-3.

2. And many of them
that sleep in
the dust of the Earth
shall awake,
some to Everlasting Life,
and some to Shame
(and) Everlasting Contempt.
3. And they that be wise
shall shine as
the Brightness of the Firmament;
and they that turn
many to Righteousness
as the stars for ever and ever.

. DANIEL 12:10.

10. Many shall be purified,
and made white,
and tried:
but the Wicked
shall do wickedly:
and none of the Wicked
shall Understand;
but the Wise
shall Understand.

THERE IS A FUNDAMENTAL PRINCIPLE BEHIND ALL SCRIPTURE: THE KOSHER/TREIF LAW.

That is laid out in LEVITICUS 11:1-47.

Those who HATE GOD will only understand DIETARY INSTRUCTIONS, which they might use to make themselves feel better than everybody else- because of what they DON'T EAT, that others do.

Those who LOVE GOD would be led by God Himself to understand that THE KOSHER/TREIF LAW has a much more important application than telling people what to eat or not-eat.

LEVITICUS 11:1-47 is the Secret Instructions of God on THE CORRECT USE OF THE MIND.

What Unbelievers never understand is that THE TORAH LAW OF GOD is NOT an AFTERTHOUGHT: God did not create Man, then start trying to figure out a CODE-OF-CONDUCT for Man to live by.

THE LAW WAS ALWAYS THE PLAN.

It is The Source-Code of All Creation.

If you UNDERSTAND THE LAW, you can understand ANYTHING.

If you Understand anything, you can CREATE it, CONTROL it, and DESTROY it.

If you know that, then you should know that The Kingdom of God has no interest in granting UNBELIEVERS access to this Knowledge.

Therefore, there are things in The Bible that will confuse the Wicked, who do not know that meats, fishes, birds, and insects that do not possess ALL of the Attributes of RIGHTEOUS FOOD must NEVER be eaten, so that THEY THINK that THEY HAVE TO BELIEVE EVERYTHING in The Bible, or NOTHING.

GOD'S ATTRIBUTES ARE DEFINED BY THE LAW OF GOD BY MOSES, AND ONLY THE LAW OF GOD BY MOSES.

. DEUTERONOMY 12:32-13:5.

32. What thing soever
I Command you,
observe to do it:
thou shalt not add thereto,
nor diminish from it.
IF THERE arise among you
a Prophet,
or a Dreamer of Dreams,
and giveth thee
a Sign or a Wonder,
2. And the Sign or the Wonder
come to pass,
whereof he spake unto thee,
saying,

"LET US GO
AFTER OTHER GODS,
WHICH THOU
HAST NOT KNOWN,
AND LET US
SERVE THEM."


3. Thou shalt not hearken
unto the words of that Prophet,
or that Dreamer of Dreams:
for The LORD thy God loveth you,
to know whether ye love
The LORD your God
with all your heart
and with all your soul.
4. Ye shall walk after
The LORD your God,
and fear Him,
and keep His Commandments,
and obey His Voice,
and ye shall serve Him,
and cleave unto Him.
5. And that Prophet,
or that Dreamer of Dreams,
shall be put to Death;
because he hath spoken
to turn (you) away
from The LORD your God,
Which brought you
out of the land of Egypt,
and redeemed you
out of the House of Bondage,
to thrust thee
out of The Way which
The LORD thy God
Commanded thee to walk in.
So shalt thou put
the Evil away
from the midst of thee.

The Attributes of OMNISCIENCE, OMNIPOTENCE, and OMNIPRESENCE are Man-Made Doctrines, NOT GOD-MADE.

Unless God PERSONALLY-DECLARES that He has an Attribute, OR ELSE DEMONSTRATES IT, believing He has It is just a FANTASY on peoples part.

Before criticizing God- blasphemy- A SENSIBLE PERSON CHECKS THE AUTHORITY BEHIND THEIR ACCUSATION- whether it has any basis in REALITY.

NO PROPHET CAN SUPERSEDE MOSES- NOT EVEN LORD YESHUA.

. 2nd CHRONICLES 16:9.

9. "For The Eyes of The LORD
run to and fro throughout
the whole Earth,
to show Himself strong
on behalf of those
whose heart
is perfect toward Him.
Herein thou hast done foolishly:
therefore from henceforth
thou shalt have wars.”

. AMOS 3:3.

3. "Can two walk together,
except they be agreed?"

GOD CANNOT BE EVERYWHERE IN THE EARTH, BECAUSE THAT WOULD REQUIRE HIM TO JUDGE EVIL, OR BE COMPLICIT IN MEN'S SINS.

Therefore, He can only observe things on Earth that AGREE WITH HIS LAWS, except He WANTS to Judge Sinners.

He can only be Present where HIS LAWS are being EXECUTED.

GOD THINKS IN TERMS OF WISDOM AND UNDERSTANDING.

Earth Realm thinks in terms of FOOLISHNESS and NON-COMPREHENSION- It operates on a significantly lower Spiritual Energy Level than is required to perceive GOOD AND EVIL, which is the MINIMUM REQUIREMENT to ACCESS and ENTER the LOWEST of the Seven Heavens.

GOD KNOWS what Earth Creatures SHOULD do- which is to ATTAIN and OPERATE BY His Heavenly Wisdom and Understanding- but, if they do not do that, HE CANNOT KNOW what they WILL do, without being involved in their situation, BECAUSE HE DOES NOT THINK IN THOSE TERMS.

That is: STUPIDITY.

GOD IS NOT OMNISCIENT, OMNIPRESENT, NOR OMNIPOTENT, NEITHER HAS HE CLAIMED TO BE.

benzics:

God is not all good

A God who could order the killings of little kids by bears just because they mocked his prophet is everything but Good..


This again shows how extremely stupid and ignorant the OP is.

. 1st KINGS 18:7-13.

7. And as Obadiah was in the way,
behold, Elijah met him:
and he knew him,
and fell on his face,
and said,

"Art thou that my lord Elijah?"

8. And he answered him,

"I am:
go, tell thy lord,

'BEHOLD, ELIJAH IS HERE.' "

9. And he said,

"What have I Sinned,
that thou wouldest deliver thy servant
into the hand of Ahab,
to slay me?
10. "As The LORD thy God liveth,
there is no nation or kingdom,
whither my lord hath not
sent to seek thee:
and when they said,

'HE IS NOT THERE;'

he took an oath
of the kingdom and nation,
that they found thee not.
11. "And now thou sayest,

'GO, TELL THY LORD,

"BEHOLD, ELIJAH IS HERE." '


12. "And it shall come to pass,
as soon as I am gone from thee,
that the Spirit of The LORD
shall carry thee whither I know not;
and so when I come and tell Ahab,
and he cannot find thee,
he shall slay me:
but I thy servant fear The LORD
from my youth."

13. "Was it not told my lord
what I did when Jezebel
slew the Prophets of The LORD,
how I hid an hundred men
of The LORD'S Prophets
by fifty in a cave,
and fed them
with bread and water?"

ELISHA WAS THE APPRENTICE OF ELIJAH, THE SOLE SURVIVING PROPHET OF A MASSACRE ORDERED BY QUEEN JEZEBEL, BUT CARRIED OUT BY CHILDREN, WHOM ELIJAH HAD FOOLISHLY ALLOWED TO GROW TO ADULTHOOD!

I seem to be the only Christian on Earth who knows that.

. 2nd KINGS 2:23-25.

23. And he went up from thence
unto Bethel:
and as he was
going up by the way,
there came forth little children
out of the city,
and mocked him,
and said unto him,

"Go up, thou bald head;
go up, thou bald head."

24. And he turned back,
and looked on them,
and cursed them
in the Name of The LORD.
And there came forth
two she bears out of the wood,
and tare forty and two children
of them.
25. And he went from thence
to mount Carmel,
and from thence
he returned to Samaria.

THESE CHILDREN BROKE SPECIFIC COMMANDMENTS- FOR WHICH THE PENALTY IS, IF NOT DEATH, CERTAINLY NOT LONG-LIFE AND PROSPERITY!

1. DESPISING AN ELDER AND A STRANGER.

. LEVITICUS 19:32-37.

32. Thou shalt rise up
before the hoary head,
and honour the face
of the old man,
and fear thy God:
I (am) The LORD.
33. "And if a stranger
sojourn with thee in your land,
ye shall not vex him.
34. " (But) the stranger
that dwelleth with you
shall be unto you
as one born among you,
and thou shalt love him as thyself;
for ye were strangers
in the land of Egypt:
I (am) The LORD your God.
35. "Ye shall do
no unrighteousness in Judgment,
in meteyard, in weight,
or in measure.
36. "Just balances, just weights,
a just ephah, and a just hin,
shall ye have:
I (am) The LORD your God,
Which brought you
out of the land of Egypt.
37.Therefore shall ye
observe all My Statutes,
and all My Judgments,
and do them:
I am The LORD."

2. COMMITTING INIQUITY (DELIBERATE SIN).

. NUMBERS 15:27-31.

27. "And if any Soul Sin
through ignorance,
then he shall bring a she goat
of the first year
for a Sin Offering.
28. And the Priest shall
make an Atonement
for the Soul that Sinneth Ignorantly,
when he Sinneth by Ignorance
before The LORD,
to make an Atonement for him;
and it shall be forgiven him.
29. "Ye shall have One Law
for him that Sinneth through Ignorance,
both for him that is born
among the Children of Israel,
and for the Stranger that sojourneth
among them.
30. "But the Soul
that doeth ought presumptuously,
whether he be
born in the land,
or a Stranger,
the same Reproacheth
The LORD;
and that Soul shall be cut off
from among his people.
31. "Because he hath despised
The Word of The LORD,
and hath broken His Commandment,
that Soul shall utterly be cut off;
his Iniquity shall be upon him."

3. CONTINUING IN THE INIQUITIES OF THEIR PARENTS, GRANDPARENTS, AND GREAT-GRANDPARENTS.

.     EXODUS 20:1-7.

AND God Spake
all these Words,
Saying,

2. "I (am) The LORD thy God,
Which have brought thee
out of The Land of Egypt,
out of The House of Bondage.

3. "Thou shalt have
no other gods before Me.

4. "Thou shalt not
make unto thee
any graven image,
or any likeness (of any thing)
that (is) in the Earth beneath,
or that (is) in the Water
under the Earth:
5. "Thou shalt not
bow down thyself to them,
nor serve them:
for I The LORD thy God
(am) a Jealous God,
visiting the iniquity
of the fathers
upon the third and fourth (generation)
of them that HATE ME.
6. "And shewing Mercy
unto thousands of them
which Love Me,
and Keep My Commandments.

7. "Thou shalt not
take The Name
of The LORD thy God
in vain;
for The LORD will not
hold him guiltless
that taketh His Name
in vain."

Note that God holds every Human accountable for the iniquities of their previous three generations.

4. FOLLOWING A MULTITUDE TO DO EVIL.

. EXODUS 23:1-3.

"THOU shalt not raise
a False Report:
put not thine hand
with the Wicked
to be an unrighteous Witness.
2. "Thou shalt not follow a multitude
to do Evil;
neither shalt thou speak
in a cause to decline after many
to wrest (judgment):
3. "Neither shalt thou countenance
a poor man in his cause."

5. FAILURE TO DILIGENTLY LEARN THE LAW OF GOD, AND APPLY IT WITH MAXIMUM EFFORT.

. DEUTERONOMY 6:4-9.

4. Hear, O Israel:
The LORD our God is one LORD:
5. And thou shalt love
The LORD thy God
with all thine Heart,
and with all thy Soul,
and with all thy might.
6. And these Words,
which I Command thee this day,
shall be in thine heart:
7. And thou shalt teach Them
diligently unto thy children,
and shalt talk of Them
when thou sittest in thine house,
and when thou walkest by the way,
and when thou liest down,
and when thou risest up.
8. And thou shalt bind Them
for a sign upon thine hand,
and they shall be as frontlets
between thine eyes.
9. And thou shalt write Them
upon the posts of thy house,
and on thy gates.

6. FAILURE TO REMEMBER THE HISTORY OF THEIR PEOPLE.

. DEUTERONOMY 8:1-6.

ALL The Commandments
Which I Command thee this day
shall ye observe to do,
that ye may live,
and multiply,
and go in and possess the land
which The LORD sware unto your fathers.
2. And thou shalt remember
all the Way which The LORD
thy God led thee these forty years
in the wilderness,
to humble thee,
and to prove thee,
to know what was in thine heart,
whether thou wouldest
keep His Commandments,
or no.
3. And He humbled thee,
and suffered thee to hunger,
and fed thee with Manna,
which thou knewest not,
neither did thy fathers know;
that He might
make thee know that

"MAN DOTH NOT
LIVE BY BREAD ONLY
BUT BY EVERY (WORD)
THAT PROCEEDETH
OUT OF THE MOUTH
OF THE LORD
DOTH MAN LIVE."


4. Thy raiment waxed not
old upon thee,
neither did thy foot swell,
these forty years.
5. Thou shalt also consider
in thine heart,

"THAT, AS A MAN
CHASTENETH HIS SON,
SO THE LORD THY GOD
CHASTENETH THEE."


6. Therefore thou shalt keep
The Commandments of
The LORD thy God,
to walk in His Ways,
and to fear Him.

Only through people like Elisha were they even alive- yet this was how they repaid him!!!

7. DISRESPECTING A PROPHET.

. DEUTERONOMY 18:15-19.

5. The LORD thy God will
raise up unto thee
a Prophet from
the midst of thee,
of thy Brethren,
like unto Me;
unto him ye shall hearken;
16. According to all
that thou desiredst
of The LORD thy God
in Horeb in
the Day of the Assembly,
saying,

"LET ME NOT HEAR AGAIN
THE VOICE OF THE LORD MY GOD,
NEITHER LET ME SEE
THIS GREAT FIRE ANY MORE,
THAT I DIE NOT."


17. And The LORD Said unto me,

"THEY HAVE WELL SPOKEN
THAT WHICH THEY HAVE SPOKEN.
18. "I WILL RAISE THEM UP
A PROPHET
FROM AMONG THEIR BRETHREN,
LIKE UNTO THEE,
AND WILL PUT MY WORDS IN HIS MOUTH;
AND HE SHALL SPEAK UNTO THEM
ALL THAT I SHALL COMMAND HIM.
19. "AND IT SHALL COME TO PASS,
THAT WHOSOEVER
WILL NOT HEARKEN
UNTO MY WORDS
WHICH HE SHALL SPEAK
IN MY NAME,
I WILL REQUIRE IT OF HIM.”


8. FAILURE TO CHOOSE LIFE- FOR THEMSELVES, THEIR PARENTS, AND THEIR FUTURE OFFSPRING.

. DEUTERONOMY 30:19-20.

19. I call Heaven and Earth
to record this day against you,
that I have set before you
Life and Death,
Blessing and Cursing:
therefore CHOOSE LIFE,

That both thou
and thy seed may live:

20. That thou mayest
love The LORD thy God,

And that thou mayest
obey His Voice,

and that thou mayest
cleave unto Him:

for He is thy Life,
and the Length of thy days:

That thou mayest dwell
in the land
which The LORD Sware
unto thy fathers,
to Abraham, to Isaac,
and to Jacob,
to give them.

THEY CHOSE DEATH- JUST LIKE YOU!
Re: Why God Is Not Omniscient, Omnipotent, Omnipresent And Why There Is No Sin by oaroloye(m): 1:24pm On Oct 17, 2019
CONTINUED:

benzics:

A God whom already knows your climax but just trying to fu-ck with your life is a real joker, he already knows you are going to hell but still creates you to go to hell, is that one a good God? undecided

Is God really all knowing?
(Don't mind this one o grin)

Does God know how men feel when they "cum" and how women feel when they orgasm, grin , does God know how it feels to suck on a nice b-itchy titties?? cheesy If Yes, then God is not all good, and if no, then God is not all knowing..
(a reference by Darkmatter)

GOD KNOWS EVERYTHING ABOUT HIS CREATION THAT HE NEEDS TO KNOW, AND MORE ABOUT IT THAN HIS CREATIONS DO.

How orgasm feels to Sinners is based on ignorance.

The Soul splits off a considerable amount of Spiritual Energy at orgasm, in the attempt to create a new offspring.

It ought to feel painful beyond anything.

If it felt like what is really happening, the Human Race might have died out- along with all other mammals.

Instead of glorifying God for His great Gift, and foresight, you instead blaspheme Him.

benzics:

Why there is no sin

Religion made us to understand that before we were "created", God has already planned our lives, and EVERYTHING that happens is according to God's grand plan.. Which means isis is just a part of God's plan , aids, hiv, just everything is going as planned by God.. So why do you theists still term people as "sinners", when in fact they cannot choose to not do what "God has planned", so you see, it's really not their fault, but God's plan, and curse you if you go against his plans .. ...


Hopefullandlord , hahn, jonbellion, felixomor, kingebukasblog, randomperson, and y'all "infidels", come in here or burn for eternity!!! angry remember I love you kiss kiss grin

SIN IS GOD'S INTELLIGENCE TEST TO DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT ONE IS WORTHY OF IMMORTALITY.

. GENESIS 1:26-28.

26. And God Said,

"Let us make Man
in Our Image,
after Our Likeness:
and let them have Dominion
over the Fish of the Sea,
and over the Fowl of the Air,
and over the Cattle,
and over all the Earth,
and over every creeping thing
that creepeth upon the Earth."

THOSE WHO LIVE SINFUL AND SICKLY LIVES ALLOW THE EARTH TO CONTROL THEM, INSTEAD OF EXERCISING DOMINION OVER IT AND ITS ORGANISMS.

benzics:

God is not all good

A God who could order the killings of little kids by bears just because they mocked his prophet is everything but Good..

A God who could allow things like the Holocaust, WWII, ISIS, EBOLA, AIDS is not an all good God..

ELISHA SHOWED THE CONTROL OVER THE EARTH A RIGHTEOUS MAN HAS, BECAUSE HE RESISTS SIN.

Those BRATS were analogous to the WARMONGERS and DISEASE ORGANISMS.

. EXODUS 15:22-26.

22. So Moses brought Israel
from the Red sea,
and they went out
into the wilderness of Shur;
and they went three days
in the wilderness,
and found no water.
23. And when they came to Marah,
they could
not drink of the waters of Marah,
for they were bitter:
therefore the name of it
was called Marah.
24. And the people murmured
against Moses,
saying,

"What shall we drink?"

And he cried unto The LORD;
and The LORD shewed him a tree,
which when he had cast
into the waters,
the waters were made sweet:
there He made for them a Statute
and an Ordinance,
and there He proved them,
25. And Said,

"If thou wilt diligently
hearken to
The Voice of
The LORD thy God,
and wilt do that
which is Right in His Sight,
and wilt give ear
to His Commandments,
and keep all His Statutes,
I will put none of these Diseases
upon thee,
which I have brought
upon the Egyptians:
for I am the LORD
that Healeth thee."

SICKNESSES, DISEASES, AND WARS ARE THE SAME PRINCIPLES AS SINS.

Organisms wage WAR on a Body, invade its BOUNDARIES and commit THEFT, MURDER, and DESTRUCTION.

Enemy SOLDIERS invade a country's BOUNDARIES, and commit acts of THEFT, MURDER, and DESTRUCTION.

What is the DIFFERENCE?

Only SCALE.

The same SPIRITUAL POWER resolves any such situation. That Power is only available by SERVING GOD IN DOING RIGHTEOUSNESS, instead of SIN.

Therefore, you are very stupid to say that there is no such thing as SIN!

God did not plan your Sins- your Master SATAN did. YOU CHOSE to bow down to HIM, and do whatever he wanted you to do or say, so that he could HARVEST your Spiritual Energy, which you should have used to obey God.

[See: THE FIRE FROM WITHIN, by Carlos Castaneda.]

God did not foreknow that you would be so stupid. You are beneath His Notice.

. 2nd CHRONICLES 16:9.

9. "For The Eyes of The LORD
run to and fro throughout
the whole Earth,
to show Himself strong
on behalf of those
whose heart
is perfect toward Him.
Herein thou hast done foolishly:
therefore from henceforth
thou shalt have wars.”

WHEN GOD LOOKS AT THE EARTH, HE IS NOT LOOKING FOR SINNERS.

He looks for The Righteous, whom He can Reward for keeping His Commandments- not FOOLS, whom He would have to punish.

benzics:

Why there is no sin

Religion made us to understand that before we were "created", God has already planned our lives, and EVERYTHING that happens is according to God's grand plan.. Which means isis is just a part of God's plan , aids, hiv, just everything is going as planned by God..

WHICH RELIGION WAS THAT, THAT TAUGHT YOU THAT, AND WHY DID YOU BELIEVE THEM?

. MATTHEW 7:12-29.

12. "Therefore all things
whatsoever ye would
that men should do to you,
do ye even so to them:
for this is
The Law and The Prophets.
13. "Enter ye in
at The Strait Gate:
for wide is the Gate,
and broad is the way,
that leadeth to Destruction,
and many there be
which go in thereat:
14. "Because strait is the Gate,
and narrow is The Way,
which leadeth unto Life,
and few there be that find it.
15. "Beware of False Prophets,
which come to you
in sheep's clothing,
but inwardly they are
ravening wolves.
16. "Ye shall know them by their fruits.
Do men gather
grapes of thorns,
or figs of thistles?
17. "Even so every Good Tree
bringeth forth Good Fruit;
but a Corrupt Tree
bringeth forth Evil Fruit.
18. "A Good Tree cannot
bring forth Evil Fruit,
neither can a Corrupt Tree
bring forth Good Fruit.
19. "Every tree that
bringeth not forth Good Fruit
is hewn down,
and cast into the Fire.
20 Wherefore by their Fruits
ye shall know them.
21. "Not every one
that saith unto me,
'Lord, Lord,' shall enter into
The Kingdom of Heaven;
but He that doeth
The Will of my Father
Which is in Heaven.
22 Many will say to me
in That Day,

'LORD, LORD,
HAVE WE NOT
PROPHESIED IN THY NAME?
AND IN THY NAME
HAVE CAST OUT DEVILS?
AND IN THY NAME
DONE MANY
WONDERFUL WORKS?'


23. "And then will I
profess unto them,

'I NEVER KNEW YOU:
DEPART FROM ME,
YE THAT WORK INIQUITY.'


24. "Therefore whosoever heareth
These Sayings of mine,
and doeth Them,
I will liken him unto
a Wise Man,
which built his house
upon a rock:
25. "And the rain descended,
and the floods came,
and the winds blew,
and beat upon that house;
and it fell not:
for it was founded
upon a rock.
26 . "And every one
that heareth
These Sayings of mine,
and doeth them not,
shall be likened unto
a Foolish Man,
which built his house
upon the sand:
27. "And the rain descended,
and the floods came,
and the winds blew,
and beat upon that house;
and it fell:
and great was the fall of it."
28. And it came to pass,
when Jesus had
ended these Sayings,
the people were astonished
at his Doctrine:
29. For He taught them
as one having authority,
and not as the scribes.

THE ONLY RELIGION THAT COUNTS IS THE ONE TAUGHT BY YESHUA OF NAZARETH.

THAT Religion says that GOD DOES NOT EVEN KNOW YOU, until you work for HIM.

He is NOT shadowing your mind, monitoring your Formications, nor counting your profanities: YOUR EXISTENCE IS NOT THAT IMPORTANT.

But when it comes time to Judge you for those your Sins- THEN that Data will become available to Him at a glance.
Re: Why God Is Not Omniscient, Omnipotent, Omnipresent And Why There Is No Sin by oaroloye(m): 3:30pm On Oct 17, 2019
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Re: Why God Is Not Omniscient, Omnipotent, Omnipresent And Why There Is No Sin by KingEbukasBlog(m): 1:33am On Oct 18, 2019
benzics:
Hello wink

It's been a while here though.. Let's just go straight to the topic..

NB: We heathens do not believe in gods, but for the sake of argument, let's assume he's real

You've probably heard theists yapping about how God is all powerful, all knowing and all good, even though their various books do not agree with that, they just choose "blind faith", like what kind of an all good God kills innocent souls because some people are guilty??

Let's hit the nail on the head..

God is not Omnipotent / All powerful

From the beginning of the Bible, Genesis, it proved God is not omnipotent, because he created the earth in "6 days" and RESTED on the seventh day... Couldn't he have created everything within the twinkle of an eye? And why does an all powerful being need rest? Probably because he is not all powerful after all.. .

God is not Omniscient or Omni-knoweth and omnipresent

Remember when he was asking Adam and Eve why they were hiding? And he got mad when he discovered that they've eaten the forbidden fruit? This proves he didn't know when Adam and Eve were eating the fruit, or maybe he knew and was just trying to confirm (wait, this means he wasn't sure ), or he was sure but just trying to fu-ck with them, which makes him a joker!

God is not all good

A God who could order the killings of little kids by bears just because they mocked his prophet is everything but Good..

A God who could allow things like the Holocaust, WWII, ISIS, EBOLA, AIDS is not an all good God..

A God whom already knows your climax but just trying to fu-ck with your life is a real joker, he already knows you are going to hell but still creates you to go to hell, is that one a good God? undecided

Is God really all knowing?
(Don't mind this one o grin)

Does God know how men feel when they "cum" and how women feel when they orgasm, grin , does God know how it feels to suck on a nice b-itchy titties?? cheesy If Yes, then God is not all good, and if no, then God is not all knowing..
(a reference by Darkmatter)

Why there is no sin

Religion made us to understand that before we were "created", God has already planned our lives, and EVERYTHING that happens is according to God's grand plan.. Which means isis is just a part of God's plan , aids, hiv, just everything is going as planned by God.. So why do you theists still term people as "sinners", when in fact they cannot choose to not do what "God has planned", so you see, it's really not their fault, but God's plan, and curse you if you go against his plans .. ...


Hopefullandlord , hahn, jonbellion, felixomor, kingebukasblog, randomperson, and y'all "infidels", come in here or burn for eternity!!! angry remember I love you kiss kiss grin
.
This is incredibly shallow. I usually ignore such pile of dirt but I go will ahead to VERY EASILY refute this because I was mentioned and I'm free to .

1. The word "shabat" was the Hebrew word used which was translated to "rest" , but it means “to cease or stop.” I think the English translators wanted to maintain the anthropomorphic nature of God to pass the message that we need rest - showing the importance of the Sabbath day - after long hours of work through out the other days of the week. So a direct translation that is clearly congruent with the context is " God ceased or stopped creation.

2. God asking questions doesn't mean he is not omniscient. There are many answers that I thought about to the question but I'll try to keep it simple. Remember, if you at all know that, the authors of the Bible used anthropomorphism to make God relatable to humans. So the question doesn't express a lack of knowledge of Adam's location. It is more of an expression of His desire for Adam's availability to return to his role which he abandoned hiding away from Him because of the guilt caused by his sin and rebellion.

About theophanies - which is the physical manifestation of God - God taking a human appearance limited His presence to a particular location. Yes, God is omnipresent in his full nature as a non-physical , infinite being, but when he takes a physical form, he becomes finite and confined to particular location. Christ is argued to have appeared to Adam and Eve and to Moses , so such appearances are called Christophanies - they prove the pre-existence of Christ.

3. God is The Good or Goodness. And morality is rooted in God's immutable nature. So what is morally good becomes ethically right if an only if it is congruent with the commandment of God. So whatever God commands is good, because He is The Good. Without God, there is no objective standard of goodness and morality, so you cannot subjectively define something as good or evil, when clearly, such value judgement rest entirely on your personal opinion and expect it to be necessary true regardless of personal opinion : nothing is is right or wrong if morality is subjective . So without God, The Good or Goodness, how can you evaluate a moral action as objectively good or evil? You can't. So if value judgements are entirely subjective, then anyone can say that the Holocaust was good as the Nazis thought, or child sacrifice is good as the Aztecs and worshipers of Molech thought, or serial rape and murder of women is good as practical atheist Ted Bundy insisted. What makes these things wrong if there is no God whose nature provides the objective standard of goodness??

Why does God permit evil? Because He has morally sufficient reasons to. It's that simple.

4. The word "sin" originated from a word which meant "missing the mark" or "being in error". Because there is an objective standard of morality, to fall short means to sin . Or the failure to follow God's commandment means " being in error". Example : God commands us not to lie. If you lie, then you are in error, thus have sinned.

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