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Re: Saying sadaqa Allâhul-azeem After Reciting the Qur’ân Is Bid'ah – Ibn Uthaymeen by shawl: 11:28am On Mar 01, 2017 |
Demmzy15: AbuuBilaal: The brother made the statement without any proof. You followed him headlong. How convenient to call others blind followers when it is your trademark. I actually commended @Empiree for sporting it and he had refutted that statement with specific examples: saying "radiyAllahu anh" etc. Here is another example. Sayyidina Rifaa Ibn Rafi Az zukuri, radiyAllahu anh, when the prophet, sallAllahu alayhi wa sallam, was leading the maghrib prayer, and he, sallAllahu alayhi wa sallam, was saying, sami Allahu liman hamida, the sahaba, radiyAllahu anh, was saying, rabbanaa lakal hamd, hamdan katheeran tayyiban mubaarakan. After the namaz, the prophet, sallAllahu alayhi wa sallam, asked who said that, that is, the extra words 'hamdan katheeran tayyiban mubaarakan', and the sahaba, radiyAllahu anh, said I said it, then the prophet, sallAllahu alayhi wa sallam, said that the angels were competing to write down reward for him, for the way he had prayed to Allah. Why didn't the prophet, sallAllahu alayhi wa sallam, reprimand him for making extra 'zikr' because he has violated, according to you and your people, an act of legislation that only Allah has the right to. Muwatta Imam Malik, Bukhari, Nasaai, Imam Ahmad 3 Likes |
Re: Saying sadaqa Allâhul-azeem After Reciting the Qur’ân Is Bid'ah – Ibn Uthaymeen by shawl: 12:33pm On Mar 01, 2017 |
@Demmzy15 When I reply here on NL, it is usually not to take on people of your leaning because I know that most of the people under this influence find it very difficult to reason beyond their restricted scope but I do so in order to sensitize other muslims about a looming danger. One such mistake people of your leaning make in deducing sunna and bid'a is explained in the earlier hadith quoted. Abu Darda (RA) narrates that the Prophet (salallaho alaihi wasalam) said: Whatever Allaah has permitted in His Book is halaal, whatever He has forbidden is haraam, and anything over which there is silence is pardoned, so accept the pardon of Allaah, for Allaah cannot be forgetful. Then he recited this verse: and your Lord is never forgetful. The disposition with respect to the matter under discussion now should have been: It cannot be declared bid'a since the prophet, sallAllahu alayhi wa sallam, and any of his sahaba, radiyAllahu anhum, did not declare it to be bid'a. Moreover, since the phrase is used in the Quran in a generic sense, according to the tafsir earlier sighted, then it is a permitted act for the one who affirms it, at any point whatever. Then you will see that everything aligns perfectly with the Quran, hadith, proper reasoning etc. Come to think of it, it is a phrase that affirms the absolute truth in the Word of Allah. How can anyone attempt to restrict its use? That's bizarre! 1 Like |
Re: Saying sadaqa Allâhul-azeem After Reciting the Qur’ân Is Bid'ah – Ibn Uthaymeen by dragnet: 12:38pm On Mar 01, 2017 |
Empiree:why do you keep mentioning me unnecessarily? and can you please quote what I may have said verbatim or post a link to the exact post. |
Re: Saying sadaqa Allâhul-azeem After Reciting the Qur’ân Is Bid'ah – Ibn Uthaymeen by Empiree: 1:01pm On Mar 01, 2017 |
shawl:They dont understand brother |
Re: Saying sadaqa Allâhul-azeem After Reciting the Qur’ân Is Bid'ah – Ibn Uthaymeen by Fundamentalist: 8:37pm On Mar 01, 2017 |
Empiree: Watching you in 3D. |
Re: Saying sadaqa Allâhul-azeem After Reciting the Qur’ân Is Bid'ah – Ibn Uthaymeen by Empiree: 11:47pm On Mar 01, 2017 |
@shawl, this is what one of their brothers said regarding "radiaAllahu anhu". Now don't sufis have this type of ideas and why is theirs exception and sufi's bidah?. DeathStroke007: See double standard?. He said it's "intellectually alright". But when their 'oppositions' intellectually said or practice something it is bidah. FANTASTIC! How is this intellectually okay but saying sadaqaAllahul azeem in bidah and 'intellectually' retarded?. Auzubillah. Sufis however do not go against these mustahab practices like quran competetion, walimot quran etc bcuz they understood these things are meant for improving our lives |
Re: Saying sadaqa Allâhul-azeem After Reciting the Qur’ân Is Bid'ah – Ibn Uthaymeen by Raintaker(m): 8:35pm On Mar 02, 2017 |
Empiree: 1 Like |
Re: Saying sadaqa Allâhul-azeem After Reciting the Qur’ân Is Bid'ah – Ibn Uthaymeen by Sufisunni: 9:29pm On Mar 06, 2017 |
AbuuBilaal:For the Quran compilation, Abubakar(RA) even objected it, for the fact that it was not done by the Prophet(SAW), but later agreed to a superior argument. Hadith, the building of madrasah, the breaking of knowledge into several fields, the building of Madrasah etc.All these are Bid'a whether Masaalihul mursalah or not since they were never practised by the Prophet(SAW). For the Quranic competition, it is even a shame for someone like U who claims to be an upholder of Sunna to holding brief for a such a Bid'a that many hadiths explicitly and implicitly forbid Prophet (SAW) says there is no competition in Islam ”There is no competition except in three: archery, camel racing and horse racing.” [Reported by Abu Dawud 2574, At-Tirmtithi no.1700. and An-Nasai’ no.3616.]" The saying of sodaqallahul Azeez is a dhikr attributed to a specific event. Attributing a dhikr to a specific time, place or event is an act of legislation that only Allah has the right to.Guy, Bid'a is Bid'a, dont resort to opinion of any scholar and if they are not, tell me what all these are? 1 Like |
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