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God Of War III 'only Possible On Ps3' by kosovo(m): 1:41pm On Jan 06, 2010
The hugely anticipated game, which is due to hit shelves in March, is set to become one of the biggest titles of 2010.

Many tip it as a 'system seller' for Sony - and now the firm has told CVG that the game takes full advantage of PS3 hardware.

UK product manager for GoW III, Claire Backhouse, told CVG today:

"The developers have worked hard to use the power of the PS3 to make GOW3 look amazing and have added features that are only possible with PS3.

"The dynamic lighting solution employed in GOW III is only feasible through the computing power provided by the Cell SPUs.

"For example, using the High Dynamic Range Lighting (HDRL) technology, the camera - when using Krato's sightline - will emulate the human retina, causing players to feel a sharp brightness when Kratos exits a dark area and enters a sunlit area, similar to how the human eye would need to adjust."


http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=230832
Re: God Of War III 'only Possible On Ps3' by ritchboy(m): 2:44pm On Jan 06, 2010
@topic
We've heard this a million times and havent seen any tangible difference. Instead, multiplatform games on the 360 continue to murder the PS3 version(Bayonetta being the latest example).
I think "only impossible on the 360" would have been a better sales pitch cheesy
Re: God Of War III 'only Possible On Ps3' by texazzpete(m): 3:28pm On Jan 06, 2010
kosovo:

The hugely anticipated game, which is due to hit shelves in March, is set to become one of the biggest titles of 2010.

Many tip it as a 'system seller' for Sony - and now the firm has told CVG that the game takes full advantage of PS3 hardware.

UK product manager for GoW III, Claire Backhouse, told CVG today:

"The developers have worked hard to use the power of the PS3 to make GOW3 look amazing and have added features that are only possible with PS3.

"The dynamic lighting solution employed in GOW III is only feasible through the computing power provided by the Cell SPUs.

"For example, using the High Dynamic Range Lighting (HDRL) technology, the camera - when using Krato's sightline - will emulate the human retina, causing players to feel a sharp brightness when Kratos exits a dark area and enters a sunlit area, similar to how the human eye would need to adjust."


http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=230832

HDR lighting has been in use even on the original xbox. it's nothing new.
Read the article again; they say the solution they came up with is only feasible on the PS3's Cell architecture. Anyone could as well come up with an alternative method to achieve much the same thing on the 360's x86 CPU architecture.

it seems Sony keeps making a deliberate attempt to focus their first party devs on graphics, keeping them in the oven for much longer than their rivals to apply a level of visual polish that would enable such fanboyish trolling. For example keeping Killzone 2 in development for 4 years in an attempt to match the visual quality of the E3 2005 tech demo.

Truth be told, on a purely visual level both the PS3 and Xbox 360 are on par.
For example, konami have since stated that MGS: Rising on both the PS3 and 360 will look better than MGS4. yet only a year earlier, PS3 fanboys were claiming that MGS4 'couldn't be done' on the Xbox 360.

We'll see a definitive answer when Final Fantasy comes out in North America for the 360 and the PS3. At least this time the lead engine has been the PS3, so nobody's gonna come complaining about lazy developers grin
Re: God Of War III 'only Possible On Ps3' by kosovo(m): 10:38pm On Jan 06, 2010
ritchboy:

@topic
We've heard this a million times and havent seen any tangible difference. Instead, multiplatform games on the 360 continue to murder the PS3 version(Bayonetta being the latest example).
I think "only impossible on the 360" would have been a better sales pitch cheesy
Did you listen to your self? Lol
the game in question was actually made for the 360 by platinum games, there after the code was given to SEGA to do a PS3 port. . why won't it be worse? all the games you claimed are better on the 360 all have the 360 as the lead platform,
you can put the blame on the lazy developers and not sony.

Tell me any exclusive 360 game that can be comparable to Uncharted 2 and killzone 2, Don't even mention Heavy rain,

We saw the huge leap from uncharted 1 to uncharted 2, and Naughty Dog claimed Uncaharted 3 would be better in all way, meaning there is still enough juice in the black box, on the other hand, Gears of war 2 which is best looking 360 game isn't much difference from Gears of war 1
Re: God Of War III 'only Possible On Ps3' by kosovo(m): 10:47pm On Jan 06, 2010

Truth be told, on a purely visual level both the PS3 and Xbox 360 are on par.
For example, konami have since stated that MGS: Rising on both the PS3 and 360 will look better than MGS4. yet only a year earlier, PS3 fanboys were claiming that MGS4 'couldn't be done' on the Xbox 360.
Konami is not KOJIMA.
MGS: rising isn't utilizing the MGS4 engine., kojima team are optimizing the MGS4 engine for any other game Kojima might make. while making MGS: Peace Maker for the PSP.

MGS4 can never be done of the 360, Kojima has said it countless time, Hence he is not involved the vision and development of MGS: rising, according to him, he want to give his younger team some freedom,



We'll see a definitive answer when Final Fantasy comes out in North America for the 360 and the PS3. At least this time the lead engine has been the PS3, so nobody's gonna come complaining about lazy developers Grin
it was suppose to be, but when it was announced for the 360, Square enix discontinued the initial engine and started designing another engine that would support both the ps3 and 360, That alone has reduced any scale the game would have gotten to. But with the recent findings, the PS3 version blows the 360 version out of the water,

For example keeping Killzone 2 in development for 4 years in an attempt to match the visual quality of the E3 2005 tech demo.
Killzone 2 was made for 2 years, engine 2 years,
Uncharted 2, 18 months.
How about ALAN WAKE, i thought that was close to 5 years in the making and it's not out, from the videos, it looked like Alone in the Dark,
Re: God Of War III 'only Possible On Ps3' by kosovo(m): 10:49pm On Jan 06, 2010
Its up to MS to prove Sony wrong

MS claimed the PS3 was inferior to 360 - and Sony came out with UC2, which destroyed every 360 exclusive

MS claimed the KZ2 trailer was a lie - and came out with a game that trumped the trailer

Turn 10 tried to pretend Forza deserves to be in the same class as GT - and then GT5 turns up with 1000 cars, night / all weather racing, 16 players online, 1080p, nascar, head tracing, interior models for all cars, etc etc

So if MS and xbox supporters disagree with Sony's statements on GOW3 - they have prove it by producing an exclusive on 360 that looks nearly as good as GOW3, right now 360 is a joke with ODST and L4D2 looking like garbage compared to Sony's big hitters in 2009




Ubisoft did it with Splinter Cell:Conviction saying it was only possible on 360 (but later they said its possible on ps3 also,- it was just an Exclusivity deal with MS)  cheesy,
Re: God Of War III 'only Possible On Ps3' by kosovo(m): 10:58pm On Jan 06, 2010
The graphical fidelity of ps3 games have way surpassed that of the competition even though it hasn't been out as long as it rivals, whats even more embarrassing is its 'MEANT TO BE HARDER TO DEVELOP FOR' so in no way should it have overtaken the 'far easier to develop for' competition.
Re: God Of War III 'only Possible On Ps3' by ritchboy(m): 7:51am On Jan 07, 2010
Kosovo
Kojima didnt say Rising would look better than MGS4, KONAMI did, so what are you on about?
Graphically, the PS3 & 360 are on the SAME LEVEL. . . If you cant understand that, i feel very sorry for you cheesy
Re: God Of War III 'only Possible On Ps3' by texazzpete(m): 8:14am On Jan 07, 2010
kosovo:

Konami is not KOJIMA.
MGS: rising isn't utilizing the MGS4 engine., kojima team are optimizing the MGS4 engine for any other game Kojima might make. while making MGS: Peace Maker for the PSP.

MGS4 can never be done of the 360, Kojima has said it countless time, Hence he is not involved the vision and development of MGS: rising, according to him, he want to give his younger team some freedom,


I don't know what crack you're on that makes you incapable of understanding simple English, but i'll try again.

Konami has said that MGS: Rising will look markedly better than MGS 4. So that puts the lie to the statements that MGS 4 is not possible on the 360.


kosovo:


it was suppose to be, but when it was announced for the 360, Square enix discontinued the initial engine and started designing another engine that would support both the ps3 and 360, That alone has reduced any scale the game would have gotten to. But with the recent findings, the PS3 version blows the 360 version out of the water,

Kosovo, there's really no need for lies. There have been no comparisons made so far. And Square Enix did not start with another engine from scratch, do you even know how much time that takes to come up with a new engine from scratch? Square Enix has been working on the Crystal Engine on the PS3 for years now, so they should have a pretty good knowledge of the hardware. Let's wait until the game comes out and then we'll see.



kosovo:


Killzone 2 was made for 2 years, engine 2 years,
Uncharted 2, 18 months.

As at when it was announced at e3 2005, Killzone 2 had been in the making for a while. That makes it over 4 years.
after the CG cheating scandal (Sony tried to pass off CG as actual PS3 gameplay), Sony and Guerilla had to focus aggressively on the graphics.
Any dev can bring out insane graphics given enough time and motivation.


kosovo:

How about ALAN WAKE, i thought that was close to 5 years in the making and it's not out, from the videos, it looked like Alone in the Dark,

lol. i doubt you ever watched the videos. No one EVER said it looked like Alone in the Dark visually. People drew comparisons to Alone in the Dark due to the light/dark gameplay mechanics. You never fail to be amusingly wrong grin
Re: God Of War III 'only Possible On Ps3' by texazzpete(m): 8:25am On Jan 07, 2010
kosovo:

The graphical fidelity of ps3 games have way surpassed that of the competition even though it hasn't been out as long as it rivals, whats even more embarrassing is its 'MEANT TO BE HARDER TO DEVELOP FOR' so in no way should it have overtaken the 'far easier to develop for' competition.

And it's instructive to note that only first party devs that focus exclusively on ONE game with long development times have been able to get out that level of visual fidelity.

Guerilla Games - Killzone 2
Naughty Dog - Uncharted 2
Polyphony digital - GT5
The guys working on God of War 3 (can't remember the name)

Of course the only exception is Naughty Dog with Uncharted 2, but Naughty Dog are extremely brilliant devs. Even on the technically inferior PS2, their Jax and Daxter series set the benchmark for stunning graphics in platformers for a while. So that doesn't count grin

this is the secret behind the stunning graphics on Sony's hardware. That and sony's focus on graphics.
Haze, Lair and Heavenly Sword on the PS3 are examples of games that have had normal development cycles on the PS3, and look how they turned out.

On the Xbox 360, there has been a decided lack of focus on visuals for many of the first party exclusives. Halo 3 is a prime example of this. And Gears of War is an Unreal Engine 3 game from Epic, and is thus limited to what that engine can deliver.
Re: God Of War III 'only Possible On Ps3' by kosovo(m): 3:39pm On Jan 07, 2010
ritchboy:

Kosovo
Kojima didnt say Rising would look better than MGS4, KONAMI did, so what are you on about?
   And i never said otherwise,  You and i know that Kojima can't work with an inferior hardware, thus passing the ball to his young team, Listen not even his team. grin
     There is no way MGS: Rising can be better than MGS4,  bookmark this page for future reference.

Graphically, the PS3 & 360 are on the SAME LEVEL. . . If you cant understand that, i feel very sorry for you cheesy

    Tell that to a mad man in the Village cheesy
Re: God Of War III 'only Possible On Ps3' by kosovo(m): 3:47pm On Jan 07, 2010
@TEX,
this is the secret behind the stunning graphics on Sony's hardware. That and sony's focus on graphics.
Haze, Lair and Heavenly Sword on the PS3 are examples of games that have had normal development cycles on the PS3, and look how they turned out.
  that was at the beginning of the hardware life, Developers have gotten better understading working with PS3,
  Can you remember in 2007 when multiplatforms games looked like rubbish on the PS3? But now things have changed,  Unfortunately,  Gears of war 2 remains the best xbox 360 game and that  was many years ago,  which bring to my conclusion that the 360 has already been maxed up, ,
   
  We are yet to see Eight days, that games looks better than U2, based on preview,  thats alone shows that there is still lot of juice on the ps3,  Other Sony studios have not released  any games- Sony bend,  syphon filters  etc etc., they are not sleeping either, Sony sure has lots of Surprised this year,
Re: God Of War III 'only Possible On Ps3' by ritchboy(m): 10:47am On Jan 08, 2010
The developers(Konami) of both games(MGS:Rising&4) have told us themselves Rising will look better and a nonentity is trying to convince us otherwise. . . Even the mad man in the village is laughing at ur buffoonery cheesy
Re: God Of War III 'only Possible On Ps3' by ritchboy(m): 10:50am On Jan 08, 2010
Oh, and GOW2 was not released "many years ago". . . Its LESS than two years old, but of course its been out for a decade in lala-land where you reside grin
Re: God Of War III 'only Possible On Ps3' by kosovo(m): 4:05pm On Jan 08, 2010
well, lets see how young boys can outperform their master,
and before i for forget GOd of war 2 wasn't out 2 years ago, 2 years ago can also be called many years.
Re: God Of War III 'only Possible On Ps3' by kosovo(m): 4:08pm On Jan 08, 2010
ritchboy:

The developers(Konami) of both games(MGS:Rising&4) have told us themselves Rising will look better and a nonentity is trying to convince us otherwise. . .
Does Konami know how to develop games? lol cheesy,, The developer is Kojima productions,
Konami is just the publisher of Metal Gear Solid, though they develop mediocre games
Re: God Of War III 'only Possible On Ps3' by texazzpete(m): 5:49pm On Jan 08, 2010
kosovo:

Does Konami know how to develop games? lol cheesy,, The developer is Kojima productions,
Konami is just the publisher of Metal Gear Solid, though they develop mediocre games

Kojima is a developer working for Konami. There are loads more developers working at Konami than Kojima. If the developers claim they'll deliver better visual fidelity in Rising than MGS4, who are we to argue with them?
Konami does not make 'mediocre games' as you erroneously claim. They have their share of bad games, but also churn out good games. the metal gear solid series is wholly owned by Konami. if Kojima drops dead tommorrow, the series will continue. Simple as that.
Re: God Of War III 'only Possible On Ps3' by ritchboy(m): 6:03pm On Jan 08, 2010
GOd of war 2 wasn't out 2 years ago, 2 years ago can also be called many years.

you sound confused. . . GEARS Of War 2 was released November 2008, that's 1 year and 2 months ago. to a cultured ignoramus like kosovo, this translates to "MANY years ago", u must be the life president of lala-land  cheesy


Konami is just the publisher of Metal Gear Solid, though they develop mediocre games

Kojima Productions was formed in 2005, Kojima and its other workers had worked for Konami previously. Konami is still it's PARENT COMPANY.
Should we take ur opinion ahead of the developers/publishers of the game? i laugh in your native dialect  cheesy

Does Konami know how to develop games? lol Cheesy,,  The developer is Kojima productions,

And who developed all the Metal Gear games pre 2005? Namco?
Re: God Of War III 'only Possible On Ps3' by kosovo(m): 10:57pm On Jan 08, 2010
[b]m sorry you both got it wrong, Kojima owns the Intellectual property - Metal Gear/ Metal Gear Solid. and not Konami.[/b


@ritchy, you said GOW every knows GOW = God of War and NOT gears of war, gears of war = GeOW.
U grab?
Re: God Of War III 'only Possible On Ps3' by texazzpete(m): 9:45pm On Jan 09, 2010
kosovo:

m sorry you both got it wrong, Kojima owns the Intellectual property - Metal Gear/ Metal Gear Solid. and not Konami.[/b


Sorry to burst your bubble, but Kojima owns NOTHING of Metal Gear. The metal Gear franchise was created by Kojima while working for Konami. If Kojima leaves, he's on his own.
For example, Tecmo's Team Ninja develops the Ninja Gaiden and Dead or Alive. The lead developer and creator of Dead or Alive ([b]Tomonobu Itagaki
) was fired by Tecmo. Guess who retains the rights to DoA? Guess which company is preparing DoA 5 for PS3 and Xbox 360?

Konami allows Kojima to create his own subteam in the organization. So when you see Kojima productions flash on the screen, it means nothing. In the Pro Evolution Soccer series, the lead developer is Shingo 'Seabass' Takatsuka. That's why you see SEABASS appear on screen in some versions of Winning Eleven.

In both cases, the rights are 100% owned by Konami.

kosovo:

@ritchy, you said GOW every knows GOW = God of War and NOT gears of war, gears of war = GeOW.
U grab?

Gears of War is nearly always referred to as GoW, similar to God of War.
Re: God Of War III 'only Possible On Ps3' by kosovo(m): 8:21pm On Jan 10, 2010
M sorry, Kojima owns Metal Gear Solid and anything relating to it, If he leaves , Konami is dead! Pro evolution soccer has already lost it's way. angry
Re: God Of War III 'only Possible On Ps3' by audacious: 11:53pm On Jan 10, 2010
kosovo:

M sorry, Kojima owns Metal Gear Solid and anything relating to it,  If he leaves ,  Konami is dead! Pro evolution soccer has already lost it's way. angry

My guy, drop this ish, Koijima created the Metal Gear Series but doesn't own it. If you own any of the Metal Gear games you can as well take a look  at the bottom of the back cover and read who owns the Registered Trademark. Then come hear and tell us the truth before tendering your apology   grin
Re: God Of War III 'only Possible On Ps3' by texazzpete(m): 3:06pm On Jan 11, 2010
kosovo:

M sorry, Kojima owns Metal Gear Solid and anything relating to it, If he leaves , Konami is dead! Pro evolution soccer has already lost it's way. angry

typical Kosovo. Blatant refusal to accept the truth.

kosovo:

M sorry, Kojima owns Metal Gear Solid and anything relating to it, If he leaves , Konami is dead! Pro evolution soccer has already lost it's way. angry

Abeg tell him jo!
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Re: God Of War III 'only Possible On Ps3' by titanic2(m): 4:09pm On Feb 13, 2010
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Re: God Of War III 'only Possible On Ps3' by Dauchman(m): 1:11pm On Feb 15, 2010
@Kosovo

I think you should stop arguing with the fellas in here. I own all 3 7th generation consoles and i know dat graphically the PS3 has not been tested.

If any of the fellas in here can give me a game on the Xbox 360 that surpasses the graphics of Uncharted 2, i would keep my mouth shut. What makes a product is the quality and not how fast it comes out.

Besides you would be wasting your time trying to convince anyone in here as they just love arguing off point. I remember last year when i told the fellas in here that Fifa had taken over as the best soccer game since 2008 and in 2010 they were going to use PES to shine the floor, they kept on arguing. The rest of that story is history.

You guys have not seen anything yet. wait till heavy rain, GOW 3, and GT5 come out, then you will understand better.

Have you guys wondered why most developers say it is difficult to make games for the PS3? Did u hear/read what Naughty Dog had to say about the PS3. You guys should learn to give meaningful criticism, if you said the PS3 was too expensive when it came out and you are pissed because of that i would say i feel the same way too or it takes so long to make games, then i would agree with you.

And for the records i actually work for a gaming software company in canada, so i know what i am talking about.

Ciao.
Re: God Of War III 'only Possible On Ps3' by ritchboy(m): 6:26pm On Feb 18, 2010
^^You must be the janitor, cos u dont have a clue!
Re: God Of War III 'only Possible On Ps3' by Dauchman(m): 2:53am On Feb 19, 2010
ritchboy:

^^You must be the janitor, cos u dont have a clue!

You must be the village nimwit
Re: God Of War III 'only Possible On Ps3' by ritchboy(m): 10:24am On Feb 19, 2010
"nimwit"? Is that a word in your native dialect(idiotiqua)? DIMWIT!
Re: God Of War III 'only Possible On Ps3' by Dauchman(m): 2:53am On Feb 20, 2010
ritchboy:

"nimwit"? Is that a word in your native dialect(idiotiqua)? DIMWIT!
Dude are you this jobless? Lil wonder ur folks said they didnt expect very much from you
Re: God Of War III 'only Possible On Ps3' by kosovo(m): 10:53pm On Feb 20, 2010
hehehe cheesy
Gran torismo 5 Will end the console war,
Ritchy and co, do not know the history of the playstation brand and the relevance of Gran torismo series,
what we are seeing now all happened in the days of the PS1 and PS2, Ritchy is too busy playing halo and listening to Microsoft, Time to Grow!!!
Re: God Of War III 'only Possible On Ps3' by texazzpete(m): 10:02pm On Feb 21, 2010
kosovo:

hehehe cheesy
Gran torismo 5 Will end the console war,
Ritchy and co, do not know the history of the playstation brand and the relevance of Gran torismo series,
what we are seeing now all happened in the days of the PS1 and PS2, Ritchy is too busy playing halo and listening to Microsoft, Time to Grow!!!

true gamers do not want/need to wait 5 years for one racing game. not when there are many good racing titles out there too.
As to your Halo jibe, at least you know more people play Halo online than MAG and Killzone 2 combined.

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