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Suggestions Needed by Muhammedbashir(m): 10:13am On May 31, 2017
Pls ur help are needed.
I started HTML wen I was in SS1 till SS2 and I can partially say am like 50% good at it coz I easily understand and functions of HTML codes I encountered. Presently, am through wit Secondary school wit complete O'level and 263 in Jamb, awaiting 4 admission into UNILORIN studying Computer science as desired. I stopped learning programming wen am not more serious in my studies but only in programming. I was addicted to it dat all my allowances are too buy ebooks and suscribe for data plan, I remembered vividly of sleeping by 2am-3am in d midnight almost everyday. To cut d story short.

Still admission is out, I love to go back to programming again even though dat my course in school but nevertheless, I love to spend my remaining time at home doing dat.

My question is this, what language should I start wit coz presently am a newbie, I intend to buy new phone; what type of phone should I buy dat good for learning programming as in Java phones, Andriod, Blackberry or Window.

More also, I don't mind if I could see a good teacher/instructor/mentor that could be teleguiding me on what I need to do or to been done at d right time.

Pls ur helps are needed coz it means a lot to my success and achievement.
Re: Suggestions Needed by badthinds: 10:56am On May 31, 2017
Look, the question of 'what language should i start with' can olny be categorically answered if you answer the question of 'what are you interested in'.
Re: Suggestions Needed by logicalhumour: 11:03am On May 31, 2017
badthinds has spoken.

So now, Programming is not simply programming.

There is the Video game zone, animation zone, hardware communication zone, web development zone, software dev. Zone etc... and all-join-zone...like me grin

So now, where does your interest lie?

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Re: Suggestions Needed by phililp(m): 12:22pm On May 31, 2017
one thing about computer is that... what ever you start with, is in line.... wether you start with python, html, js, php..... there are all gonno be important as far as computer science is concerned.

but before u jump in, you have to know where you going.. if your taking/ or have started with the web rout.. u should continue with this sequence

HTML/CSS
BOOTSTRAP
JAVASCRIPT
PHP
then DBMS

but if you taking the software route

then :
PYTHON
RUBY
JAVA
JS

but since you goint into college... you better take you time so you dont let'em distract you...

you can see your course content and know what you gonno be doing in the future and start bitting slowly
Re: Suggestions Needed by Muhammedbashir(m): 12:36pm On May 31, 2017
badthinds:
Look, the question of 'what language should i start with' can olny be categorically answered if you answer the question of 'what are you interested in'.
Thanks but d problem lies at this; I don't actually whether to go for Web programming or Software programming.
Re: Suggestions Needed by Muhammedbashir(m): 12:39pm On May 31, 2017
logicalhumour:
badthinds has spoken.

So now, Programming is not simply programming.

There is the Video game zone, animation zone, hardware communication zone, web development zone, software dev. Zone etc... and all-join-zone...like me grin

So now, where does your interest lie?
Is it possible to do two zone at a time I.e Web zone and Software zone without being affected big time.
Re: Suggestions Needed by badthinds: 1:08pm On May 31, 2017
Muhammedbashir:
Thanks but d problem lies at this; I don't actually whether to go for Web programming or Software programming.
It is. This is how you go about it.
(Relax as I drive you on web+software dev. simultaneously )


You're done with HTML.
Next is Python.
Why?
- Python frameworks such as DJango is great for web development. Some people tend to respect a Python website more than a Php site (Troll. Keep the argument to yourself and keep trolling. [Wow!. First time is used the word 'Troll'])

After Python, go to javascript. (I can smell some people saying ah ah) wait...

You see, After learning Python. You CAN developed great sites...and even when you get back to Javascript, it will easier!.

Python has certain GUI you must have played with...If you find GUI stuffs a bit over your head. Put javascript in the middle and get back!.

After all this.

Next is Java and JSP.
JSP is Java.
Java will keep you in the software path while JSP keeps you close with the Web path. (DJango and JSP?...people will respect your sites )

Now java has GUIs also. Play with them to start creating JVM based apps.

Now. You're almost fully stacked.
(At this point...if you're interested in PHP...youll gulp it like water...I'm writing out of experience.)

At this point.. Is it Android softwares you're interested in? Or Windows Standalone Softwares? Or iOS?

if android:
You already know java right? (with your HTML knowledge, add XML to it) and you're good to go with android apps.

Widows or IOS stuffs?
Now consider the 'C's (C#, C++, Swift .)

Now you maintained your path as a web + software guy.

If you need other combinations, just ask.


At this point...If you remember me, you'll come back to thank me!.

Last bit of advice: If you learn Php now, you may be forever be inclined to, not only this but protective of web stuffs. (dont let the beginning tag of Php: <?php ... ?> fool you around).

[edited:
Note: I didn't include beauty stuffs like Css, bootstrap ...
]

Happy programmer life grin . badthinds.

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Re: Suggestions Needed by Muhammedbashir(m): 4:26pm On May 31, 2017
badthinds:

It is. This is how you go about it.
(Relax as I drive you on web+software dev. simultaneously )


You're done with HTML.
Next is Python.
Why?
- Python frameworks such as DJango is great for web development. Some people tend to respect a Python website more than a Php site (Troll. Keep the argument to yourself and keep trolling. [Wow!. First time is used the word 'Troll'])

After Python, go to javascript. (I can smell some people saying ah ah) wait...

You see, After learning Python. You CAN developed great sites...and even when you get back to Javascript, it will easier!.

Python has certain GUI you must have played with...If you find GUI stuffs a bit over your head. Put javascript in the middle and get back!.

After all this.

Next is Java and JSP.
JSP is Java.
Java will keep you in the software path while JSP keeps you close with the Web path. (DJango and JSP?...people will respect your sites )

Now java has GUIs also. Play with them to start creating JVM based apps.

Now. You're almost fully stacked.
(At this point...if you're interested in PHP...youll gulp it like water...I'm writing out of experience.)

At this point.. Is it Android softwares you're interested in? Or Windows Standalone Softwares? Or iOS?

if android:
You already know java right? (with your HTML knowledge, add XML to it) and you're good to go with android apps.

Widows or IOS stuffs?
Now consider the 'C's (C#, C++, Swift .)

Now you maintained your path as a web + software guy.

If you need other combinations, just ask.


At this point...If you remember me, you'll come back to thank me!.

Last bit of advice: If you learn Php now, you may be forever be inclined to, not only this but protective of web stuffs. (dont let the beginning tag of Php: <?php ... ?> fool you around).

[edited:
Note: I didn't include beauty stuffs like Css, bootstrap ...
]

Happy programmer life grin . badthinds.
Thank you very much sir. I so much appreciate ur advices and I promise to follow d lay down steps and heed to ur instructions.

But it only W3schools I knew, can u help me with any other site dat could actually help sir, more also, I have laptop; any tutorial or apps I need to download in order to learn by it.

Another question, wat best suitable to learn programming; Andriod, Bb, Window or even Java phones coz I so much enjoyed using Java phones back den in learning HTML coz all is d button is wat I learnt by heart!!!
Re: Suggestions Needed by Muhammedbashir(m): 4:45pm On May 31, 2017
phililp:
one thing about computer is that... what ever you start with, is in line.... wether you start with python, html, js, php..... there are all gonno be important as far as computer science is concerned.

but before u jump in, you have to know where you going.. if your taking/ or have started with the web rout.. u should continue with this sequence

HTML/CSS
BOOTSTRAP
JAVASCRIPT
PHP
then DBMS

but if you taking the software route

then :
PYTHON
RUBY
JAVA
JS

but since you goint into college... you better take you time so you dont let'em distract you...

you can see your course content and know what you gonno be doing in the future and start bitting slowly

Thank you Boss, bt my curiosity goes as this; can't I do d 2 simultaneously together as in both Web and Software together.

Am sorry if my level of understanding as u might thought is low to understand ur points, but am passionate about d two, don't no which one to consider instead only yours advices can actually help me sir.
Re: Suggestions Needed by badthinds: 5:21pm On May 31, 2017
Muhammedbashir:

Thank you very much sir. I so much appreciate ur advices and I promise to follow d lay down steps and heed to ur instructions.

But it only W3schools I knew, can u help me with any other site dat could actually help sir, more also, I have laptop; any tutorial or apps I need to download in order to learn by it.

Another question, wat best suitable to learn programming; Andriod, Bb, Window or even Java phones coz I so much enjoyed using Java phones back den in learning HTML coz all is d button is wat I learnt by heart!!!

Well, w3school is good for running your codes...but owing to the sandboxing and all, why don't you use your laptop / mobile (to save data used for online learning).

I didn't use w3school you know, just hovered around. Since you have a laptop...you're good to go.
Just download the Python interpreter for your OS at https://www.python.org/downloads/

Then for mobile. I think Android is best.
1. There is QPython for android. Its just great, whenever your off laptop...its just same. Transfer your files and continue work.
2. There is CppDroid for C/C++ compilation on android. There is also C4Droid but preferably CppDroid.

Then, before you download and begin Python. You may need a good text editor which will be most helpful (as your lines of code grow from 2 to 10 to 100ds to thousands...good text editors will be your loyal friends )

Suggestions:

1. WingIDE (Very nice one, but the most coolest features such as powerful debbugin comes with the paid version)

2. Sublime test editor is great and free. (I used it..you can just open a folder as a project and keep working with the files and save yourself the openings)

3. Notepad++ (I used it too...you can even choose the current language of the file, for a special kind of syntax highlighting.
...

So in summary

Forget w3schools, use your laptop and download good ebooks. That's how I learnt (after the basics, you download the more serious ones). Youtube videos may be helpful, but I DIDNT use them...when you need real knowledge ...its in the eBook.
Then Android is best in the absence of your laptop.

I Hope this piece was helpful.
Re: Suggestions Needed by Muhammedbashir(m): 8:03pm On May 31, 2017
badthinds:


Well, w3school is good for running your codes...but owing to the sandboxing and all, why don't you use your laptop / mobile (to save data used for online learning).

I didn't use w3school you know, just hovered around. Since you have a laptop...you're good to go.
Just download the Python interpreter for your OS at https://www.python.org/downloads/

Then for mobile. I think Android is best.
1. There is QPython for android. Its just great, whenever your off laptop...its just same. Transfer your files and continue work.
2. There is CppDroid for C/C++ compilation on android. There is also C4Droid but preferably CppDroid.

Then, before you download and begin Python. You may need a good text editor which will be most helpful (as your lines of code grow from 2 to 10 to 100ds to thousands...good text editors will be your loyal friends )

Suggestions:

1. WingIDE (Very nice one, but the most coolest features such as powerful debbugin comes with the paid version)

2. Sublime test editor is great and free. (I used it..you can just open a folder as a project and keep working with the files and save yourself the openings)

3. Notepad++ (I used it too...you can even choose the current language of the file, for a special kind of syntax highlighting.
...

So in summary

Forget w3schools, use your laptop and download good ebooks. That's how I learnt (after the basics, you download the more serious ones). Youtube videos may be helpful, but I DIDNT use them...when you need real knowledge ...its in the eBook.
Then Android is best in the absence of your laptop.

I Hope this piece was helpful.
Very useful Boss, pls where can I be downloading all d necessary ebooks needed sir?
Re: Suggestions Needed by nijabazaar: 9:07pm On May 31, 2017
If u can switch to CGI. I will render my mentorship free
Re: Suggestions Needed by Muhammedbashir(m): 10:46pm On May 31, 2017
nijabazaar:
If u can switch to CGI. I will render my mentorship free
Computer generated imagery or Common gateway interface? I found words are very tempting sir.
Re: Suggestions Needed by Muhammedbashir(m): 10:47pm On May 31, 2017
nijabazaar:
If u can switch to CGI. I will render my mentorship free
Computer generated imagery, I found your words are very tempting sir.
Re: Suggestions Needed by Muhammedbashir(m): 10:47pm On May 31, 2017
nijabazaar:
If u can switch to CGI. I will render my mentorship free
Computer generated imagery? I found your words are very tempting sir.
Re: Suggestions Needed by cbrass(m): 9:26am On Jun 02, 2017
Muhammedbashir:

Thank you very much sir. I so much appreciate ur advices and I promise to follow d lay down steps and heed to ur instructions.

But it only W3schools I knew, can u help me with any other site dat could actually help sir, more also, I have laptop; any tutorial or apps I need to download in order to learn by it.

Another question, wat best suitable to learn programming; Andriod, Bb, Window or even Java phones coz I so much enjoyed using Java phones back den in learning HTML coz all is d button is wat I learnt by heart!!!


Follow the advice at your own peril grin that guy smoked some weed before posting that
Re: Suggestions Needed by Muhammedbashir(m): 10:15am On Jun 02, 2017
cbrass:



Follow the advice at your own peril grin that guy smoked some weed before posting that
Sir!!!
Why did u say so sir?
Re: Suggestions Needed by Dekatron(m): 2:34pm On Jun 02, 2017
cbrass:



Follow the advice at your own peril grin that guy smoked some weed before posting that
Seconded.... One hennessy for you. grin grin grin
Re: Suggestions Needed by phililp(m): 2:46pm On Jun 02, 2017
for video tutorials visit this site: thenewboston.com. you can find tons of programming tutorials there..

for PDF files go to Tutorialspoint...they have it also in tons

then for online courses... check Sololearn.com.. i personally dont like codecademy..


Advice: dont just depend on one... combine all for proper learning...
also sign up for programming sites and forums like Github, thenewboston, stark oveflow.. and lots more

just make research bro
Re: Suggestions Needed by cbrass(m): 3:49pm On Jun 02, 2017
Dekatron:

Seconded.... One hennessy for you. grin grin grin

government needs to ban weeed grin grin grin
Re: Suggestions Needed by badthinds: 8:27pm On Jun 02, 2017
Muhammedbashir:

Sir!!!
Why did u say so sir?
Don't mind the guy...I got the weed from him.
...and cbrass, when did you become a programmer? grin
Re: Suggestions Needed by cbrass(m): 12:11am On Jun 03, 2017
badthinds:

Don't mind the guy...I got the weed from him.
...and cbrass, when did you become a programmer? grin

Lol see question o, it seems you just just enter this room month abi
Re: Suggestions Needed by Muhammedbashir(m): 4:00am On Jun 03, 2017
cbrass:

Lol see question o, it seems you just just enter this room month abi
Lol, seems u guys are friends.
Re: Suggestions Needed by Muhammedbashir(m): 4:05am On Jun 03, 2017
phililp:
for video tutorials visit this site: thenewboston.com. you can find tons of programming tutorials there..

for PDF files go to Tutorialspoint...they have it also in tons

then for online courses... check Sololearn.com.. i personally dont like codecademy..


Advice: dont just depend on one... combine all for proper learning...
also sign up for programming sites and forums like Github, thenewboston, stark oveflow.. and lots more

just make research bro

Thank u boss, I really appreciate ur advices and I promise to start working in that path.
More also, I will keep you informed on how it goes wit time.
Re: Suggestions Needed by cbrass(m): 7:40am On Jun 03, 2017
Muhammedbashir:

Lol, seems u guys are friends.

Maybe though I don't know him much. Well a small advice I will give you is follow your passion, you see if you really do what u like doing you won't work a single day. To some people Web design is there thing so you can just ad ux to it so you can work as a ui/ux person, let me tell you something those guys are scarce in the country now. And if it is backend you like then delve into it. At the moment now desktop programming is not really selling again everything as gone to the Web. And if it's mobile app you want to specialise in then research on the relevant languages that is most used. The main thing is just search your self identify what you like doing and your strength then check the economic value it has then choose.
Re: Suggestions Needed by Muhammedbashir(m): 5:52pm On Jun 03, 2017
cbrass:


Maybe though I don't know him much. Well a small advice I will give you is follow your passion, you see if you really do what u like doing you won't work a single day. To some people Web design is there thing so you can just ad ux to it so you can work as a ui/ux person, let me tell you something those guys are scarce in the country now. And if it is backend you like then delve into it. At the moment now desktop programming is not really selling again everything as gone to the Web. And if it's mobile app you want to specialise in then research on the relevant languages that is most used. The main thing is just search your self identify what you like doing and your strength then check the economic value it has then choose.
Wow, dat was a great hint for me.

But I get a question sir; are u referring Desktop programming as Software programming or another programming entirely.

I know what I want to further in I.e Web+Software developing but I just need to make more inquires before jumping into it.
Re: Suggestions Needed by cbrass(m): 6:09pm On Jun 03, 2017
Muhammedbashir:

Wow, dat was a great hint for me.

But I get a question sir; are u referring Desktop programming as Software programming or another programming entirely.

I know what I want to further in I.e Web+Software developing but I just need to make more inquires before jumping into it.

If I say desktop I mean non Web programming or software programming
Re: Suggestions Needed by Muhammedbashir(m): 6:45pm On Jun 03, 2017
cbrass:

If I say desktop I mean non Web programming or software programming
Okay sir!!!
Re: Suggestions Needed by Muhammedbashir(m): 6:47pm On Jun 03, 2017
cbrass:


If I say desktop I mean non Web programming or software programming
Sorry to ask this question sir; what is ur specialization?
Re: Suggestions Needed by cbrass(m): 11:09pm On Jun 03, 2017
Muhammedbashir:

Sorry to ask this question sir; what is ur specialization?
web
Re: Suggestions Needed by Muhammedbashir(m): 4:07am On Jun 04, 2017
cbrass:
web
Wow, No hacking coz of ur signature?
Re: Suggestions Needed by nijabazaar: 11:53am On Jun 04, 2017
Muhammedbashir:

Computer generated imagery, I found your words are very tempting sir.

Yeah, I meant 3D Modeling and all the encompassing fields. You can search for this thread in the Arts section "My Cabinet of 3D Curiosities"

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