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Did Judas Have A Choice? - Jack Kelley by jiggaz(m): 6:25pm On Aug 18, 2017
QUESTION
The Bible says that God had willed the death of Jesus (John 3:16), that “Jesus (was) delivered up according to the definite plan and foreknowledge of God” in Acts 2:23 and Luke 22:22 which says “For the Son of Man goes as it has been determined, but woe to that man by whom he is betrayed!” On the surface it seems that Judas had no choice here. Would you please explain?

ANSWER
Knowing the future is not the same as controlling it. God knew Jesus would be betrayed, and even had David write about it 1,000 years in advance (Psalm 41:9). But Judas could not have known it referred to him, and made a free choice to act as he did. He didn’t realize he had betrayed the Lord until after the fact (Matt. 27:4).

God is not directing our actions from Heaven, nor has He programmed us in advance to behave a certain way. He has seen the future and knows what our choices and the accompanying consequences will be, even as we make them of our own free will. Otherwise the Lord could not have said, “The Son of Man goes as it has been determined, but woe to that man by whom he is betrayed” (Luke 22:22).

I believe God has a purpose for our lives but He can’t implement His purpose without our permission (Romans 12:1-2). And since He doesn’t want any of us to perish but for all to come to repentance (2 Peter 3:9), He couldn’t plan for us to act in a way that would prevent that. We have to choose to reject His purpose for us by placing our will above His.

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Re: Did Judas Have A Choice? - Jack Kelley by FromZeroToHero(m): 6:35pm On Aug 18, 2017
Ok
Re: Did Judas Have A Choice? - Jack Kelley by YahwehPenis: 11:02pm On Aug 18, 2017
Judas have a choice. He shld av not killed d bmasterd
Re: Did Judas Have A Choice? - Jack Kelley by jiggaz(m): 7:19am On Aug 19, 2017
Morning
Re: Did Judas Have A Choice? - Jack Kelley by jiggaz(m): 12:03pm On Aug 19, 2017
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Re: Did Judas Have A Choice? - Jack Kelley by jiggaz(m): 7:35am On Aug 20, 2017
Rooted
Re: Did Judas Have A Choice? - Jack Kelley by jiggaz(m): 11:38am On Aug 20, 2017
Yeah
Re: Did Judas Have A Choice? - Jack Kelley by jiggaz(m): 6:38am On Aug 24, 2017
Noted
Re: Did Judas Have A Choice? - Jack Kelley by jiggaz(m): 7:26am On Aug 27, 2017
Xxxxx
Re: Did Judas Have A Choice? - Jack Kelley by hopefulLandlord: 7:32am On Aug 27, 2017
just in case
Re: Did Judas Have A Choice? - Jack Kelley by jiggaz(m): 7:36am On Aug 27, 2017
hopefulLandlord:
just in case
cheesy you no well cheesy
Re: Did Judas Have A Choice? - Jack Kelley by hopefulLandlord: 7:36am On Aug 27, 2017
jiggaz:
cheesy you no well cheesy
cheesy
Re: Did Judas Have A Choice? - Jack Kelley by Nobody: 12:13pm On Aug 27, 2017
if Juads has indeed had a choice and exercised it not to betray Jesus, what will be of Christianity today?
Re: Did Judas Have A Choice? - Jack Kelley by jiggaz(m): 1:20pm On Aug 27, 2017
oluwaseyi000:
if Juads has indeed had a choice and exercised it not to betray Jesus, what will be of Christianity today?
ok
Re: Did Judas Have A Choice? - Jack Kelley by jiggaz(m): 8:03pm On Jun 07, 2018
Haaaaaooo
Re: Did Judas Have A Choice? - Jack Kelley by Gggg102(m): 9:38pm On Jun 07, 2018
1. If God already knew it would happen, then it definitely would have happened.
If you read the end of a book, you already know what will happen and the ending remains the same no matter the amount of freewill the characters have. The ending remains the same.
...if it didn't happen then God knew wrong.

2. If Judas hadn't done it, we would be hearing of another name that did it. and you would have created this thread in that name. It was compulsory for it to happen as it was part of the plan. Judas was unlucky to be the fall guy but somebody's gotta do it.
Re: Did Judas Have A Choice? - Jack Kelley by Anas09: 10:01pm On Jun 07, 2018
Gggg102:
1. If God already knew it would happen, then it definitely would have happened.
If you read the end of a book, you already know what will happen and the ending remains the same no matter the amount of freewill the characters have. The ending remains the same.
...if it didn't happen then God knew wrong.

2. If Judas hadn't done it, we would be hearing of another name that did it. and you would have created this thread in that name. It was compulsory for it to happen as it was part of the plan. Judas was unlucky to be the fall guy but somebody's gotta do it.
Very true. His natural greedy longa throat tendencies opened him up to be used by satan.

The guy get mind dey thief Jesus money. Him dey present wen Jesus dey read their thoughts, yet e no occur to am say Jesus go know say him dey thief money from the offering box.
Jesus just act like say him no know say Judas dey thief money from offering box.
Re: Did Judas Have A Choice? - Jack Kelley by Gggg102(m): 11:05pm On Jun 07, 2018
Anas09:

Very true. His natural greedy longa throat tendencies opened him up to be used by satan.

The guy get mind dey thief Jesus money. Him dey present wen Jesus dey read their thoughts, yet e no occur to am say Jesus go know say him dey thief money from the offering box.
Jesus just act like say him no know say Judas dey thief money from offering box.


If he didn't do it, someone else would have done it na. At least you should be a little grateful that he sacrificed himself by carrying such a cursed fate and saving others from it.
Re: Did Judas Have A Choice? - Jack Kelley by eddy1977(m): 4:44am On Jun 08, 2018
He shouldnt have hanged himself.
Re: Did Judas Have A Choice? - Jack Kelley by TheLoser: 6:10am On Jun 08, 2018
This does not make any sense
Re: Did Judas Have A Choice? - Jack Kelley by hopefulLandlord: 6:46am On Jun 08, 2018
TheLoser:
This does not make any sense
Are you noob the loser?
Re: Did Judas Have A Choice? - Jack Kelley by TheLoser: 6:51am On Jun 08, 2018
hopefulLandlord:


Are you noob the loser?
No Sir
Re: Did Judas Have A Choice? - Jack Kelley by Nobody: 7:47am On Jun 08, 2018
They all betrayed Jesus that day! But since others always treasure His teachings in their hearts coupled with the fact that they've all conquered the love of money,they were able to scale through that night of temptation. Judas Iscariot on the other hand still had the love of money at heart(John 12:4-6)his intentions is to swindle the Sanhendrin(Matthew 2615)he thought Jesus would vanish from their midst as usual(John 10:39) but to the greatest shock of his life Jesus' time to die has come(Matthew 27:3-5) Lesson learned! We must always treasure Jesus' teachings in our hearts because that's the ONLY thing that can make any sinner escape the judgment from God!(Matthew 7:24-27)

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Re: Did Judas Have A Choice? - Jack Kelley by CAPSLOCKED: 8:08am On Jun 08, 2018
Anas09:

Very true. His natural greedy longa throat tendencies opened him up to be used by satan.



TO BE USED BY SATAN.. FOR GOD'S OWN WILL?

WHAT IS SATAN'S BUSINESS WITH SOMETHING THE MASTER PLANNER ALREADY PLANNED LONG BEFORE THE CREATION OF THE EARTH?
Re: Did Judas Have A Choice? - Jack Kelley by jiggaz(m): 7:51pm On Sep 05, 2018
Evening
Re: Did Judas Have A Choice? - Jack Kelley by jiggaz(m): 8:31pm On Oct 20, 2021
jiggaz:
Evening
Re: Did Judas Have A Choice? - Jack Kelley by jiggaz(m): 8:06pm On Mar 01, 2022
jiggaz:
Evening
now

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