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God is great by michaelwestern(m): 6:26pm On Aug 21, 2017
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Re: God is great by hackwi(m): 6:43pm On Aug 21, 2017
when you read in context you will realize that spiritual authority was the discussion... a woman is to cover the authority over her. there is nothing like covering hair, it is covering head(authority)...
Re: God is great by michaelwestern(m): 6:52pm On Aug 21, 2017
hackwi:
when you read in context you will realize that spiritual authority was the discussion... a woman is to cover the authority over her. there is nothing like covering hair, it is covering head(authority)...

Thanks sir, but in verse 15 it mentions physical hair.

  "But if a woman have long hair, it is a glory to her: for her hair is given her for a covering"
Re: God is great by An2elect2(f): 6:56pm On Aug 21, 2017
michaelwestern:


Thanks sir, but in verse 15 it mentions physical hair.

  "But if a woman have long hair, it is a glory to her: for her hair is given her for a covering"
If she has long hair or a weave on, what's the need wearing a veil or head tie again. Isn't the hair already covering her head undecided
Re: God is great by Topgainer: 7:12pm On Aug 21, 2017
Uncovered head is a shaved one, to skin most likely, for the woman it signifies humiliation, dishonour and maybe revolt over something. In the Igbo culture, women are subjected to that during mourning for late husbands.
Paul assertion is that the head should be covered and God made provision for that with the hair. Vs 15 of I Corin 11 answers your question. American Pentecostals gave the interpretation to that long time ago, away from the position of Orthodox/ Catholic
hackwi:
when you read in context you will realize that spiritual authority was the discussion... a woman is to cover the authority over her. there is nothing like covering hair, it is covering head(authority)...
That's right
and there shouldn't be debate about that because it is simple and plain.
When you see a woman inside the Church building shaved to skin without a covering or a man with his cap on his head except he has a long hair which is his dishonour, then you can make a simple case out of it. Whatever you chose make out of it, it is not part of the Hell requirements. That's no one goes to Hell because of it because it is just a tradition, among the very few recommended in the new testament.
Re: God is great by michaelwestern(m): 7:14pm On Aug 21, 2017
An2elect2:
If she has long hair or a weave on, what's the need wearing a veil or head tie again. Isn't the hair already covering her head undecided

I just quoted that verse to show that paul was talking about physical hair.

How do you explain verse 5&6

"But every woman that prayeth or prophesieth with her head uncovered dishonoureth her head: for that is even all one as if she were shaven. 6  For if the woman be not covered, let her also be shorn: but if it be a shame for a woman to be shorn or shaven, let her be covered."

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Re: God is great by michaelwestern(m): 7:25pm On Aug 21, 2017
Topgainer:
Uncovered head is a shaved one, to skin most likely, for the woman it signifies humiliation, dishonour and maybe revolt over something. In the Igbo culture, women are subjected to that during mourning for late husbands.
Paul assertion is that the head should be covered and God made provision for that with the hair. Vs 15 of I Corin 11 answers your question. American Pentecostals gave the interpretation to that long time ago, away from the position of Orthodox/ Catholic That's right
and there shouldn't be debate about that because it is simple and plain.
When you see a woman inside the Church building shaved to skin without a covering or a man with his cap on his head except he has a long hair which is his dishonour, then you can make a simple case out of it. Whatever you chose make out of it, it is not part of the Hell requirements. That's no one goes to Hell because of it because it is just a tradition, among the very few recommended in the new testament.

But sir with this your explanation does it mean that every man has to shave to skin before going to church, because verse 4 says

"Every man praying or prophesying, having his head covered, dishonoureth his own head."
Re: God is great by An2elect2(f): 7:27pm On Aug 21, 2017
michaelwestern:


I just quoted that verse to show that paul was talking about physical hair.

How do you explain verse 5&6

"But every woman that prayeth or prophesieth with her head uncovered dishonoureth her head: for that is even all one as if she were shaven. 6  For if the woman be not covered, let her also be shorn: but if it be a shame for a woman to be shorn or shaven, let her be covered."
vs 15 "But if a woman have long hair, it is a glory to her: for her hair is given her for a covering"

Brother you yourself quoted that verse. It says her hair is given her for a covering. Which other covering again do you want bikonu. grin just because it's the common thing around to cover one's hair with headtie doesn't make it sensible!

And like Topgainer has said, uncovered head is a shaved one as in "pachangolo" no hair at all on the head. If that's the case, it's either she grows her hair, put on a weave or veil.
Re: God is great by An2elect2(f): 7:32pm On Aug 21, 2017
michaelwestern:


But sir with this your explanation does it mean that every man has to shave to skin before going to church, because verse 4 says

"Every man praying or prophesying, having his head covered, dishonoureth his own head."

Vs 14! No man should leave his hair long like a woman's but should have it shaved. The covering is long hair or woman type of hair. It's shameful for a man to rock such grin
Re: God is great by michaelwestern(m): 7:51pm On Aug 21, 2017
An2elect2:
Vs 14! No man should leave his hair long like a woman's but should have it shaved. The covering is long hair or woman type of hair. It's shameful for a man to rock such grin

Please I will appreciate it if you can state in clear terms whether you believe a man should always shave his hair to skin before going to church.
Re: God is great by An2elect2(f): 8:03pm On Aug 21, 2017
michaelwestern:


Please I will appreciate it if you can state in clear terms whether you believe a man should always shave his hair to skin before going to church.
You mean before fellowshipping with other believers? because church means two or more Christians...

If you have no covering on your head ie long hair (not the tiny hairs on your head) then you are good to pray or prophesy.
Re: God is great by Nobody: 8:10pm On Aug 21, 2017
An2elect2:
You mean before fellowshipping with other believers? because church means two or more Christians...

If you have no covering on your head ie long hair (not the tiny hairs on your head) then you are good to pray or prophesy.
what of a long Afro, dreads, corn rows, our men do wear that to church this days grin grin
Re: God is great by An2elect2(f): 8:16pm On Aug 21, 2017
Tosinex:
what of a long Afro, dreads, corn rows, our men do wear that to church this days grin grin
Totally wrong, not good even in or out of fellowship.

Even you yourself have said it is a new trend
grin

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