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The Fail-safe Way For You To Receive The Holy Spirit by Thegospelman(m): 6:07pm On Nov 29, 2017
Is speaking in tongues an evidence that one has an indwelling of the Holy Spirit? We all know anyone who doesn't have the Spirit is not God's. So how can one actually receive the Holy Spirit instead of demons? People in Christianity today are making mockery of the word of God. How can someone fall down injure himself/herself and damage the church chairs in the name of Holy Spirit move? There is only way to receive the Holy Spirit and avoid all this funny phenomenon, to know please

Download this Ebook "The fail-safe way for you to receive the Holy Spirit" to get an in-depth biblical explanation of the Indwelling of the Spirit of God.
[PDF] (2MB)

https://drive.google.com/uc?authuser=0&id=0B8wCbx7jt6ZJZzdmTnk4bnNCcUE&export=download

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Re: The Fail-safe Way For You To Receive The Holy Spirit by Seun(m): 8:33pm On Nov 29, 2017
Fun fact:

The practice of baptism in the Holy Spirit as a separate act from becoming a Christian, which is manifested by babbling unintelligable words, is not biblical. It is a recent fad of the Pentecostal movement. The apostles and early Christians who wrote the New Testament practiced baptism and the holy communion, but there’s no record of them laying hands on Christians to make them speak in tongues. If they practiced it, they would have mentioned it because it would have been very important.

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Re: The Fail-safe Way For You To Receive The Holy Spirit by Daeylar(f): 8:39pm On Nov 29, 2017
grin grin
Thegospelman:
Is speaking in tongues an evidence that one has an indwelling of the Holy Spirit? We all know anyone who doesn't have the Spirit is not God's. So how can one actually receive the Holy Spirit instead of demons? People in Christianity today are making mockery of the word of God. How can someone fall down injure himself/herself and damage the church chairs in the name of Holy Spirit move? There is only way to receive the Holy Spirit and avoid all this funny phenomenon, to know please

Download this Ebook "The fail-safe way for you to receive the Holy Spirit" to get an in-depth biblical explanation of the Indwelling of the Spirit of God.
[PDF] (2MB)

https://drive.google.com/uc?authuser=0&id=0B8wCbx7jt6ZJZzdmTnk4bnNCcUE&export=download
Re: The Fail-safe Way For You To Receive The Holy Spirit by Toyade888(m): 8:58am On Nov 30, 2017
Seun:
Fun fact:

The practice of baptism in the Holy Spirit as a separate act from becoming a Christian, which is manifested by babbling unintelligable words, is not biblical. It is a recent fad of the Pentecostal movement. The apostles and early Christians who wrote the New Testament practiced baptism and the holy communion, but there’s no record of them laying hands on Christians to make them speak in tongues. If they practiced it, they would have mentioned it because it would have been very important.



Are you implying that the apostles never spoke in tongues, and it was also never spoken in the New Testament?
Re: The Fail-safe Way For You To Receive The Holy Spirit by Johncuppa(m): 10:37am On Nov 30, 2017
Seun:
Fun fact:

The practice of baptism in the Holy Spirit as a separate act from becoming a Christian, which is manifested by babbling unintelligable words, is not biblical. It is a recent fad of the Pentecostal movement. The apostles and early Christians who wrote the New Testament practiced baptism and the holy communion, but there’s no record of them laying hands on Christians to make them speak in tongues. If they practiced it, they would have mentioned it because it would have been very important.
And they never mentioned it?
Re: The Fail-safe Way For You To Receive The Holy Spirit by Johncuppa(m): 10:40am On Nov 30, 2017
Acts 19:6
Re: The Fail-safe Way For You To Receive The Holy Spirit by live4dgospel(m): 11:09am On Nov 30, 2017
I would like you to read that book, it clear the ocean of confusions today's Christians are swimming. Just click on the link below to get the book. (2MB)https://drive.google.com/uc?authuser=0&id=0B8wCbx7jt6ZJZzdmTnk4bnNCcUE&export=download
Re: The Fail-safe Way For You To Receive The Holy Spirit by Seun(m): 5:46pm On Nov 30, 2017
Johncuppa:
Acts 19:6

Here's the passage
While Apollos was at Corinth, Paul took the road through the interior and arrived at Ephesus. There he found some disciples 2 and asked them, “Did you receive the Holy Spirit when[a] you believed?”

They answered, “No, we have not even heard that there is a Holy Spirit.”

3 So Paul asked, “Then what baptism did you receive?”

“John’s baptism,” they replied.

4 Paul said, “John’s baptism was a baptism of repentance. He told the people to believe in the one coming after him, that is, in Jesus.” 5 On hearing this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus. 6 When Paul placed his hands on them, the Holy Spirit came on them, and they spoke in tongues and prophesied. 7 There were about twelve men in all.
Ouch. I was completely wrong. Apologies. Apparently I don't remember much from my readings of the book of Acts when I was still a believer.

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Re: The Fail-safe Way For You To Receive The Holy Spirit by Johncuppa(m): 6:00pm On Nov 30, 2017
Seun:


Here's the passage

Ouch. I was completely wrong. Apologies. Apparently I don't remember much from my readings of the book of Acts when I was still a believer.
I can't just believe this is true.
You have contributed enough to human existence that to be an unbeliever.
God has been gracious enough to you.
Please, whatever caused your U-turn, can you just think about God once again?
Can you give God existence another thought may be He would be seen?

GOD BLESS YOU SIR

My wishful thought is to see you PREACHING gospel in the coming years. What exploits you will achieve for God!

Pastor Seun in the making.
Re: The Fail-safe Way For You To Receive The Holy Spirit by live4dgospel(m): 6:47pm On Nov 30, 2017
You just need to read that book to clear all your doubts and confusions.
Re: The Fail-safe Way For You To Receive The Holy Spirit by Kogiboy20: 10:59pm On Dec 01, 2017
Seun:


Here's the passage

Ouch. I was completely wrong. Apologies. Apparently I don't remember much from my readings of the book of Acts when I was still a believer.

See your life
Re: The Fail-safe Way For You To Receive The Holy Spirit by Seun(m): 9:57am On Dec 02, 2017
Kogiboy20:
See your life
I am proud of my ability to admit that I have been wrong when strong evidence is presented to me. This attitude is highly recommended.

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Re: The Fail-safe Way For You To Receive The Holy Spirit by hahn(m): 10:05am On Dec 02, 2017
Seun:


Here's the passage

Ouch. I was completely wrong. Apologies. Apparently I don't remember much from my readings of the book of Acts when I was still a believer.

"They spoke in tongues" is not synonymous with babbling incoherent nonsense undecided

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Re: The Fail-safe Way For You To Receive The Holy Spirit by Johncuppa(m): 10:13am On Dec 02, 2017
live4dgospel:
You just need to read that book to clear all your doubts and confusions.
I just wasted my mb.
I'm not understanding the beginning.
Re: The Fail-safe Way For You To Receive The Holy Spirit by Johncuppa(m): 10:19am On Dec 02, 2017
hahn:


"They spoke in tongues" is not synonymous with babbling incoherent nonsense undecided
It is.

1Corinthians 14:2
2 For anyone who speaks in a tongue does not speak to men but to God. Indeed, no one understands him; he utters mysteries with his spirit.

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Re: The Fail-safe Way For You To Receive The Holy Spirit by hahn(m): 11:43am On Dec 02, 2017
Johncuppa:

It is.

1Corinthians 14:2
2 For anyone who speaks in a tongue does not speak to men but to God. Indeed, no one understands him; he utters mysteries with his spirit.

Wow. So it is really all just nonsense

Thanks for pointing it out smiley

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Re: The Fail-safe Way For You To Receive The Holy Spirit by Thegospelman(m): 11:33pm On Dec 02, 2017
But is speaking in tongues an evidence or criterion for the indwelling of Holy Spirit, since the Devil can make people babble nonsense in the name of speaking in tongues? I believe in the recorded word of God that Christians spoke in tongues in the early church time but now tell me how to distinguish between someone who speaks by the Spirit of God and one who speaks by demons? I repeat, you really need to download and read that book.
Re: The Fail-safe Way For You To Receive The Holy Spirit by Lekmusic: 12:51am On Dec 03, 2017
Seun:


Here's the passage

Ouch. I was completely wrong. Apologies. Apparently I don't remember much from my readings of the book of Acts when I was still a believer.

The last statement: "when I was still a believer".
Can you do one more believing act by re-visiting the exact moment you stopped believing and ask God to open the eyes of your understanding to decipher what really happened. It's harmless. Please try

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Re: The Fail-safe Way For You To Receive The Holy Spirit by Hier(m): 3:51am On Dec 03, 2017
hmmmm, Now I see more clearer, so Seun was once a Christian.

That explains lot of things

I always thought he was a muslim

That perfectly explains why he won't give us Christianity Section

He feels he's doing some Christians service by exposing them to wolves in beastly clothing

Finally, I quit NL,

puzzle solved
Re: The Fail-safe Way For You To Receive The Holy Spirit by Johncuppa(m): 4:11am On Dec 03, 2017
Thegospelman:
But is speaking in tongues an evidence or criterion for the indwelling of Holy Spirit, since the Devil can make people babble nonsense in the name of speaking in tongues? I believe in the recorded word of God that Christians spoke in tongues in the early church time but now tell me how to distinguish between someone who speaks by the Spirit of God and one who speaks by demons? I repeat, you really need to download and read that book.
It is very easy if you're a Spiritual man yourself.

1Chorin. 2:15
15 The spiritual man makes judgments about all things, but he himself is not subject to any man's judgment:
Re: The Fail-safe Way For You To Receive The Holy Spirit by live4dgospel(m): 6:40am On Dec 03, 2017
Why do you misinterpret the verse, what does it mean to be a 'spiritual man'?
Re: The Fail-safe Way For You To Receive The Holy Spirit by Johncuppa(m): 7:07am On Dec 03, 2017
live4dgospel:
Why do you misinterpret the verse, what does it mean to be a 'spiritual man'?
To be a Spiritual man is to be able to differentiate between those who are genuine and those demonic.
Re: The Fail-safe Way For You To Receive The Holy Spirit by Seun(m): 9:44am On Dec 03, 2017
hahn:
Wow. So it is really all just nonsense. Thanks for pointing it out smiley
Yeah, it seems as if that the day of pentecost account was written as a backstory to support the early Christian practice of babbling in tongues. Ironically, the version of Jesus in Mathew 6:7-8 would have disapproved: "And when you pray, do not keep on babbling like pagans, for they think they will be heard because of their many words. Do not be like them, for your Father knows what you need before you ask him."

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Re: The Fail-safe Way For You To Receive The Holy Spirit by hahn(m): 9:45am On Dec 03, 2017
Seun:

Yeah, it seems as if that the day of pentecost account was written as a backstory to support the early Christian practice of babbling in tongues. Ironically, the version of Jesus in Mathew 5:7-8 would have disapproved: "And when you pray, do not keep on babbling like pagans, for they think they will be heard because of their many words. Do not be like them, for your Father knows what you need before you ask him."

Lol. The irony cheesy grin

How far Seun, that N1m nko? undecided
Re: The Fail-safe Way For You To Receive The Holy Spirit by kristen12(f): 11:04am On Dec 03, 2017
You guys shouldn't try to convince this Seun or explain anything to him. He'll just make mockery of you at the end. Don't disturb yourself. undecided undecided
Re: The Fail-safe Way For You To Receive The Holy Spirit by live4dgospel(m): 11:48am On Dec 03, 2017
I ask you again who is a 'spiritual man'? Since you have a personal conviction that you have received the Holy Spirit and i believe that there are some other people whom who think receive demons. Now between you and those people who is the 'spiritual man'? Even those whom you believe receive demons or do miracles through the power of Devil also have personal convictions that they themselves have the Spiritual of God. The truth is this, people receive demons without even knowing that, to such people's heart they hold it strong that what they have received is the Holy Spirit of God. Do you understand me? How then do we know who has this Spirit of God? You must now humbly agree with me that speaking in tongues alone is not a valid criterion for that, since you speak in tongues and those whom you believe received demons also speak in tongues as well. Between you and them who is the right 'spiritual man' to judge?
Re: The Fail-safe Way For You To Receive The Holy Spirit by live4dgospel(m): 11:52am On Dec 03, 2017
Johncuppa:

To be a Spiritual man is to be able to differentiate between those who are genuine and those demonic.

I ask you again who is a 'spiritual man'? Since you have a personal conviction that you have received the Holy Spirit and i believe that there are some other people whom who think receive demons. Now between you and those people who is the 'spiritual man'? Even those whom you believe receive demons or do miracles through the power of Devil also have personal convictions that they themselves have the Spiritual of God. The truth is this, people receive demons without even knowing that, to such people's heart they hold it strong that what they have received is the Holy Spirit of God. Do you understand me? How then do we know who has this Spirit of God? You must now humbly agree with me that speaking in tongues alone is not a valid criterion for that, since you speak in tongues and those whom you believe received demons also speak in tongues as well. Between you and them who is the right 'spiritual man' to judge?
Re: The Fail-safe Way For You To Receive The Holy Spirit by Seun(m): 11:53am On Dec 03, 2017
I think the Holy Spirit is highly overrated by Pentecostals. Apart from making them babble in tongues, and crash to the floor when sleazy pastors push them, He doesn't do much. The Holy Spirit is meant to help Christians to interpret the bible correctly, but He doesn't do that. We know this because the doctrines of spirit-filled men of God like Kumuyi and Oyakhilome contradict each other, despite having the same Spirit.

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Re: The Fail-safe Way For You To Receive The Holy Spirit by live4dgospel(m): 12:17pm On Dec 03, 2017
Seun:
I think the Holy Spirit is highly overrated by Pentecostals. Apart from making them babble in tongues, and crash to the floor when sleazy pastors push them, he doesn't do much. The Holy Spirit is meant to help Christians to interpret the bible correctly, but clearly, he doesn't do that.

The Holy Spirit does so many things for believers, speaking in tongues and doing miracles are very small part of it and the Devil has hijacked it bringing confusions to Christians, since the Bible is now complete there is an urgent need for Christians to focus on the Word of God because by having faith in the word of God we can overcome the world of Satan the Devil. The Devil is a very cunning being, he can outsmart any human being no matter how intelligent you may be. The only to overcome the Devil is by faith alone in the word of God. To be a 'spiritual man' is to believe in the word of God and have faith in it such a person will receive the Holy Spirit of God. Now the Bible told us about many works of the Spirit in the hearts of the believers like, praying for them, a mark of guarantee of salvation, bearing witness to us that we the sons of God, convicting the world of sins, of righteousness and of judgement etc. All these are written in the Bible, That is why i recommend you to download and read that book from cover to cover to be able to comprehend all these.
Re: The Fail-safe Way For You To Receive The Holy Spirit by Johncuppa(m): 1:06pm On Dec 03, 2017
live4dgospel:


I ask you again who is a 'spiritual man'? Since you have a personal conviction that you have received the Holy Spirit and i believe that there are some other people whom who think receive demons. Now between you and those people who is the 'spiritual man'? Even those whom you believe receive demons or do miracles through the power of Devil also have personal convictions that they themselves have the Spiritual of God. The truth is this, people receive demons without even knowing that, to such people's heart they hold it strong that what they have received is the Holy Spirit of God. Do you understand me? How then do we know who has this Spirit of God? You must now humbly agree with me that speaking in tongues alone is not a valid criterion for that, since you speak in tongues and those whom you believe received demons also speak in tongues as well. Between you and them who is the right 'spiritual man' to judge?

You: The truth is this, people receive demons without even knowing that, to such people's heart they hold it strong that what they have received is the Holy Spirit of God.

Me: No, this is not true. Those who received devil Spirit rather asked for it and definitely not from God.

Luke 11:11-13

11 "Which of you fathers, if your son asks for a fish, will give him a snake instead?

12 Or if he asks for an egg, will give him a scorpion?

13 If you then, though you are evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your Father in heaven give the Holy Spirit to those who ask him!"
Re: The Fail-safe Way For You To Receive The Holy Spirit by UncleSnr(m): 2:50pm On Dec 03, 2017
Seun:

Yeah, it seems as if that the day of pentecost account was written as a backstory to support the early Christian practice of babbling in tongues. Ironically, the version of Jesus in Mathew 5:7-8 would have disapproved: "And when you pray, do not keep on babbling like pagans, for they think they will be heard because of their many words. Do not be like them, for your Father knows what you need before you ask him."
It is Matthew 6 not 5

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Re: The Fail-safe Way For You To Receive The Holy Spirit by live4dgospel(m): 3:57pm On Dec 03, 2017
Johncuppa:


You: The truth is this, people receive demons without even knowing that, to such people's heart they hold it strong that what they have received is the Holy Spirit of God.

Me: No, this is not true. Those who received devil Spirit rather asked for it and definitely not from God.

Luke 11:11-13

11 "Which of you fathers, if your son asks for a fish, will give him a snake instead?

12 Or if he asks for an egg, will give him a scorpion?

13 If you then, though you are evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your Father in heaven give the Holy Spirit to those who ask him!"

Don't you think that other people quote these verses as well? Yes, indeed! They quote these verses as well and pray and fast for the indwelling of the Spirit yet at the end what they receive is nothing but demons! The only one way to receive the Holy Spirit is to receive remission of sins by believing in the word of God, if you like do 40 days of praying and fasting you cannot receive the Holy Spirit if you have even a tiny amount of sin in your heart. Spirit of God cannot dwell where there is sin. As it is written in ( Genesis 1:2-3 ) "Now the earth was without shape and empty, and darkness was over the surface of the watery deep, but the Spirit of God was moving over the surface of the water. God said, “Let there be light.” And there was light". Can you see it? It says the Spirit of God was moving over the surface of the water, why? because the earth which represents human heart was without shape, empty and in total darkness. Put this way because the heart was full of sins. What happened after? God said let there be light and there was light. So as we can see here it is only through the Word of God that that darkness can recede and the true light comes in because they both cannot co-exist.
And again I admonish you to abandon your thoughts and download that book to read.

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