Calvinism states that there are those on this earth who have been peculiarly predestined for salvation irrespective of their conduct while there are others ( in the majority ) who have been predestined for wrath irrespective of their conduct.

Indeed this is made crueler when you realize that this predestination actually occurred before the birth of these two groups of people. The children of wrath are reserved for an eternal torture in the fires of unquenchable hell for all eternity because this is what God wanted for all ages and then children of salvation are reserved for glory because before they were Born God had predestined it.

The Calvinist says that God is fair, a God of Love and Justice yet it almost seems as people do not have a fair chance at salvation because they have been predestined to destruction, they are essentially pawns in a universal game been perpetuated by a God of LOVE - ha !!

They ignore the fact that Calvin was an intolerant bigot, a tyrant, and murderer of Michael Servetus while some of his most ardent supporters such as Jonathan Edwards were owners of black slaves despite their profession of Christianity.

You only need at look at the BIBLE BELT of the United States of America to see how cruel, racist and evil this brand of Christianity is, portraying themselves as the chosen of God while the rest of mankind are worthless people created for a frivolous game of chance.

Bullshit I say.

I say NAY to Calvinism, it is a silly JOKE.

frosbel2:
Calvinism states that there are those on this earth who have been peculiarly predestined for salvation irrespective of their conduct while there are others ( in the majority ) who have been predestined for wrath irrespective of their conduct.

Indeed this is made crueler when you realize that this predestination actually occurred before the birth of these two groups of people. The children of wrath are reserved for an eternal torture in the fires of unquenchable hell for all eternity because this is what God wanted for all ages and then children of salvation are reserved for glory because before they were Born God had predestined it.

The Calvinist says that God is fair, a God of Love and Justice yet it almost seems as people do not have a fair chance at salvation because they have been predestined to destruction, they are essentially pawns in a universal game been perpetuated by a God of LOVE - ha !!

They ignore the fact that Calvin was an intolerant bigot, a tyrant, and murderer of Michael Servetus while some of his most ardent supporters such as Jonathan Edwards were owners of black slaves despite their profession of Christianity.

You only need at look at the BIBLE BELT of the United States of America to see how cruel, racist and evil this brand of Christianity is, portraying themselves as the chosen of God while the rest of mankind are worthless pieces of sh.1t created for a frivolous game of chance.

Bullshit I say.

I say NAY to Calvinism, it is a silly JOKE.

you seem to be bitter about something. Where is the evidence to support your claims?

chrisbaxtian:



you seem to be bitter about something. Where is the evidence to support your claims?

Why do you xtians always label people who expose religious fables, Bitter?

It beats me

frosbel2:

Why do you xtians always label people who expose religious fables, Bitter?
It beats me

simply because your original post reeks of bitterness

chrisbaxtian:


simply because your original post reeks of bitterness

On the contrary, don't be defensive - its a rant

frosbel2:

On the contrary, don't be defensive - its a rant

you haven't answered the question. what's your issue with them?

frosbel2:
Calvinism states that there are those on this earth who have been peculiarly predestined for salvation irrespective of their conduct while there are others ( in the majority ) who have been predestined for wrath irrespective of their conduct.

Indeed this is made crueler when you realize that this predestination actually occurred before the birth of these two groups of people. The children of wrath are reserved for an eternal torture in the fires of unquenchable hell for all eternity because this is what God wanted for all ages and then children of salvation are reserved for glory because before they were Born God had predestined it.

The Calvinist says that God is fair, a God of Love and Justice yet it almost seems as people do not have a fair chance at salvation because they have been predestined to destruction, they are essentially pawns in a universal game been perpetuated by a God of LOVE - ha !!

They ignore the fact that Calvin was an intolerant bigot, a tyrant, and murderer of Michael Servetus while some of his most ardent supporters such as Jonathan Edwards were owners of black slaves despite their profession of Christianity.

You only need at look at the BIBLE BELT of the United States of America to see how cruel, racist and evil this brand of Christianity is, portraying themselves as the chosen of God while the rest of mankind are worthless people created for a frivolous game of chance.

Bullshit I say.

I say NAY to Calvinism, it is a silly JOKE.

Lolz at this point I don't understand what your bitterness is all about

Would it be better if he had left all to rot due to Adams disobedience

Did he tell you that you aren't part of the elect ?

Did Calvinism say you shouldn't come to Christ, did Calvinism not explain their point,

Did Calvinism say the gospel shouldn't be preached?

Tell me why God loved Jacob and hates esau

Did God not create them both ?? Your answer is in Romans

Answer these questions so I may start taking you more seriously if not you are just ranting

FYI Calvinism didn't say you shouldn't ask God for life in Jesus Christ ... Oh! I forgot you don't need him ryt?

frosbel2:
Calvinism states that there are those on this earth who have been peculiarly predestined for salvation irrespective of their conduct while there are others ( in the majority ) who have been predestined for wrath irrespective of their conduct.

Indeed this is made crueler when you realize that this predestination actually occurred before the birth of these two groups of people. The children of wrath are reserved for an eternal torture in the fires of unquenchable hell for all eternity because this is what God wanted for all ages and then children of salvation are reserved for glory because before they were Born God had predestined it.

The Calvinist says that God is fair, a God of Love and Justice yet it almost seems as people do not have a fair chance at salvation because they have been predestined to destruction, they are essentially pawns in a universal game been perpetuated by a God of LOVE - ha !!

They ignore the fact that Calvin was an intolerant bigot, a tyrant, and murderer of Michael Servetus while some of his most ardent supporters such as Jonathan Edwards were owners of black slaves despite their profession of Christianity.

You only need at look at the BIBLE BELT of the United States of America to see how cruel, racist and evil this brand of Christianity is, portraying themselves as the chosen of God while the rest of mankind are worthless people created for a frivolous game of chance.

Bullshit I say.

I say NAY to Calvinism, it is a silly JOKE.

So you want to reap where you didn't sow right? Impossible! Is it possible to enter USA without international passport ? No, how do you think you can be saved from hell without believing the saviour who can only save you from the wrath to come. Why are you afraid instead of believing. John Calvin did a great work which you pretend not to see but to criticize his minor mistakes .

whitestar01:
So you want to reap where you didn't sow right? Impossible! Is it possible to enter USA without international passport ? No, how do you think you can be saved from hell without believing the saviour who can only save you from the wrath to come. Why are you afraid instead of believing. John Calvin did a great work which you pretend not to see but to criticize his minor mistakes .

You guys throw around words without knowing the meaning such a 'bitter' . 'afraid' etc.

Only religious people are afraid, people like me live a life of freedom, joy, and love - no bondage to the mythology of Man.

John Calvin invented a LIE and his followers continue to propagate this Lie.

I am surprised though that you refer to his MURDER of an innocent man as a 'minor mistake' - just wow !

frosbel2:


You guys throw around words without knowing the meaning such a 'bitter' . 'afraid' etc.

Only religious people are afraid, people like me live a life of freedom, joy, and love - no bondage to the mythology of Man.

John Calvin invented a LIE and his followers continue to propagate this Lie.

I am surprised though that you refer to his MURDER of an innocent man as a 'minor mistake' - just wow !

if you are not afraid why are you complaining? So you believe the so called innocent man to be innocent ? Meanwhile am not in support in his command to murder , but do you really know if the man is innocent ? If yes you are deceptive! Be truthful for once.

whitestar01:
if you are not afraid why are you complaining? So you believe the so called innocent man to be innocent ? Meanwhile am not in support in his command to murder , but do you really know if the man is innocent ? If yes you are deceptive! Be truthful for once.

Start to know God for yourself and leave cleverly invented fables alone.

Ferisidowu:


Lolz at this point I don't understand what your bitterness is all about

Would it be better if he had left all to rot due to Adams disobedience

Did he tell you that you aren't part of the elect ?

Did Calvinism say you shouldn't come to Christ, did Calvinism not explain their point,

Did Calvinism say the gospel shouldn't be preached?

Tell me why God loved Jacob and hates esau

Did God not create them both ?? Your answer is in Romans

Answer these questions so I may start taking you more seriously if not you are just ranting

FYI Calvinism didn't say you shouldn't ask God for life in Jesus Christ ... Oh! I forgot you don't need him ryt?

So God created us for his pleasure in seeing some saved and some sent to an eternity in a hell chamber. If you believe in this nonsense, I cannot help you.

frosbel2:


So God created us for his pleasure in seeing some saved and some sent to an eternity in a hell chamber. If you believe in this nonsense, I cannot help you.

of course you can't help me... seeing you yourself need help

you didn't answer my questions .... just shy away from it by logic ......

did Calvinism say you aren't part of the elect?
since you are very wise

I want 2 only understand 1 tin oga op do u believe in God?

Calvin was a very bigoted man. He displayed the height of religious intolerance - validated the killing of a fellow christian (Servetus) just because of doctrinal difference. I remember how shocked I was reading this as a kid.

Agboki:
I want 2 only understand 1 tin oga op do u believe in God?

yes

Den no cause 4 alarm we are on same page!