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What Every Christian Must Read by Abdulgaffar22: 3:20pm On Jan 10, 2018
Imagine you are invited by a friend to accept a religious faith claimed to be very rich in spirituality. But one of the fundamentals of this religious faith is to acknowledge that the salvation plan originally design by God to save the humanity from the fire of Hell would later require the same God to commit an act of lying. Would you just accept such faith because of its spiritual richness or reject it because of its foolishness to your logical reasoning? Now tell me the difference between this imaginary faith and the Christian faith which also compel us to accept that the salvation plan originally design by God to save the humanity from the fire of Hell would later require the same God to curse and condemn an innocent and righteous soul almost naked on the cross at Calvary. Therefore, if you reject this imaginary faith because of its foolishness to your logical reasoning, then you must also reject Christianity since the two faiths are telling us to believe the exact opposite of what we naturally know about God through our logical reasoning. As God is naturally known to always tell the truth and never to commit an act of lying for any greater purpose; He is also naturally known to always bless the innocent and righteous soul and never to curse the same soul for any greater purpose. God may allow an innocent and righteous soul to suffer for one reason or the other. But God would never "curse" an innocent and righteous soul for any reason whatsoever. This is because a god who could not devise a way to save those who believe in him except to curse and condemn an innocent and righteous soul is either not truly merciful or not truly omnipotent or not truly omniscient. Yet to believe in the existence of such a god is one of the fundamental doctrines you must embrace wholeheartedly for you to become a serious and devoted Christian. Therefore, there is need for God to send another prophet to remove this negative and bad picture of God from the minds of the general humanity. This is one of the many reasons why Qur’an was revealed by God to Prophet Muhammad (pbuh). In the Holy Qur’an, God removed this negative and bad impression from the minds of the people by declaring that, in a miraculous way, Jesus escaped death on the cross (Qur’an 4:157-158). In this way, the "curse of God" associated with any one that is crucified and died on a cross according to the Jewish law (Galatians 3:13, Deuteronomy 21:23) was removed from the head of our beloved and innocent prophet called Jesus Christ (peace be upon him). This is exactly in line with the prayer of Jesus to God in the garden of Gethsemane when he asked for this “cup of condemnation” to be taken away from him in THREE consecutive times as stated clearly in Matthew 26:36-44.ln fact, Bible confirmed that this very prayer of Jesus was answered by God :During the day of Jesus’ life on earth, he offered up prayers and petitions with fervent cries and tears to the one who could save him from death, and he was heard because of his reverent submission (Hebrew 5:7NIV).If this prayer of Jesus was only heard but not answered by God as some Christians use to claim, then the phrase “because of his reverent submission” in the verse quoted above would no longer have any reasonable meaning. In fact, the King James Version of the Bible ends this verse with “and was heard in that he feared (Hebrew 5:7KJV).Of course, what Jesus feared was death on the cross. Hence, if Jesus was heard in that he feared, this implies that he escaped death on the cross. Therefore, an illogical and contradictory concept of "a merciful God who could not see any other way of saving those who believe in Him except to curse and condemn His only beloved and innocent son on the cross of Calvary" is completely far away from the truth.
The fact that the Holy Qur’an is the only religious book on earth that remove this negative and bad impression about God from the minds of the general humanity (and at the same time exonerate Jesus Christ from being under the curse of God) is a very great indicator that the book could never have come from no other person except God Himself.
Re: What Every Christian Must Read by goestohell: 3:42pm On Jan 10, 2018
So are we supposed to abandon our faith in Christ for a fake illiterate demonic "prophet" Sex Award Winner (SAW) and his evil "god" Satan We Trust (SWT)?





Re: What Every Christian Must Read by Uyi168: 3:45pm On Jan 10, 2018
CARMEL PISS is doing this one
Re: What Every Christian Must Read by danvon(m): 3:49pm On Jan 10, 2018
I wonder if this op is being sarcastic you're concluding paragraph, Islam removes a negative and bad impression about God Seriously?
Re: What Every Christian Must Read by enilove(m): 3:57pm On Jan 10, 2018
Abdulgaffar22:
Imagine you are invited by a friend to accept a religious faith claimed to be very rich in spirituality. But one of the fundamentals of this religious faith is to acknowledge that the salvation plan originally design by God to save the humanity from the fire of Hell would later require the same God to commit an act of lying. Would you just accept such faith because of its spiritual richness or reject it because of its foolishness to your logical reasoning? Now tell me the difference between this imaginary faith and the Christian faith which also compel us to accept that the salvation plan originally design by God to save the humanity from the fire of Hell would later require the same God to curse and condemn an innocent and righteous soul almost naked on the cross at Calvary. Therefore, if you reject this imaginary faith because of its foolishness to your logical reasoning, then you must also reject Christianity since the two faiths are telling us to believe the exact opposite of what we naturally know about God through our logical reasoning. As God is naturally known to always tell the truth and never to commit an act of lying for any greater purpose; He is also naturally known to always bless the innocent and righteous soul and never to curse the same soul for any greater purpose. God may allow an innocent and righteous soul to suffer for one reason or the other. But God would never "curse" an innocent and righteous soul for any reason whatsoever. This is because a god who could not devise a way to save those who believe in him except to curse and condemn an innocent and righteous soul is either not truly merciful or not truly omnipotent or not truly omniscient. Yet to believe in the existence of such a god is one of the fundamental doctrines you must embrace wholeheartedly for you to become a serious and devoted Christian. Therefore, there is need for God to send another prophet to remove this negative and bad picture of God from the minds of the general humanity. This is one of the many reasons why Qur’an was revealed by God to Prophet Muhammad (pbuh). In the Holy Qur’an, God removed this negative and bad impression from the minds of the people by declaring that, in a miraculous way, Jesus escaped death on the cross (Qur’an 4:157-158). In this way, the "curse of God" associated with any one that is crucified and died on a cross according to the Jewish law (Galatians 3:13, Deuteronomy 21:23) was removed from the head of our beloved and innocent prophet called Jesus Christ (peace be upon him). This is exactly in line with the prayer of Jesus to God in the garden of Gethsemane when he asked for this “cup of condemnation” to be taken away from him in THREE consecutive times as stated clearly in Matthew 26:36-44.ln fact, Bible confirmed that this very prayer of Jesus was answered by God :During the day of Jesus’ life on earth, he offered up prayers and petitions with fervent cries and tears to the one who could save him from death, and he was heard because of his reverent submission (Hebrew 5:7NIV).If this prayer of Jesus was only heard but not answered by God as some Christians use to claim, then the phrase “because of his reverent submission” in the verse quoted above would no longer have any reasonable meaning. In fact, the King James Version of the Bible ends this verse with “and was heard in that he feared (Hebrew 5:7KJV).Of course, what Jesus feared was death on the cross. Hence, if Jesus was heard in that he feared, this implies that he escaped death on the cross. Therefore, an illogical and contradictory concept of "a merciful God who could not see any other way of saving those who believe in Him except to curse and condemn His only beloved and innocent son on the cross of Calvary" is completely far away from the truth.
The fact that the Holy Qur’an is the only religious book on earth that remove this negative and bad impression about God from the minds of the general humanity (and at the same time exonerate Jesus Christ from being under the curse of God) is a very great indicator that the book could never have come from no other person except God Himself.

You have choice to choose btw believing the Bible and believing Quran .

John 3:14-21 KJV
And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up:
[15] That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.
[16] For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
[17] For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
[18] He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
[19] And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.
[20] For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.
[21] But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.

But why would you choose to believe a man like Muhammad?

What are the signs and miracles he showed that made you to believe such a man?

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Re: What Every Christian Must Read by tartar9(m): 5:49pm On Jan 10, 2018
enilove:


You have choice to choose btw believing the Bible and believing Quran .

John 3:14-21 KJV
And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up:
[15] That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.
[16] For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
[17] For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
[18] He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
[19] And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.
[20] For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.
[21] But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.

But why would you choose to believe a man like Muhammad?

What are the signs and miracles he showed that made you to believe such a man?





"What are the signs and miracles"....really.Thats all you could impute!
What an intellectually sterile religion xtianity must be.
Is there any faith or religious beliefs that doesn't claim signs and wonders for its progenitors? no wonder you guys keep hunting to be fleeced by the guy with the biggest bag of magic tricks.
As for your information,He(SAW) performed innumerable amounts of such feats and we don't even see that as primary evidence to believe in Him(SAW).





Don't even bring up that usual nonsense that He(SAW) performed no miracles.
Re: What Every Christian Must Read by enilove(m): 8:06pm On Jan 10, 2018
tartar9:


"What are the signs and miracles"....really.Thats all you could impute!
What an intellectually sterile religion xtianity must be.
Is there any faith or religious beliefs that doesn't claim signs and wonders for its progenitors? no wonder you guys keep hunting to be fleeced by the guy with the biggest bag of magic tricks.
As for your information,He(SAW) performed innumerable amounts of such feats and we don't even see that as primary evidence to believe in Him(SAW).





Don't even bring up that usual nonsense that He(SAW) performed no miracles.

The God Almighty should be able to show Himself as the Almighty . It would be an insult for Satan and his demons to do extraordinary things in form of signs , miracles and wonders and the Almighty will be looking .

If Muhammad did not make claim that the God of the Jews and Christians is Allah , no one will be bothered or I won't be bothered .
Right from the time God called Abraham , He has been showing Himself to be a miracle working God.

God told Abraham that He will perform a wonder that would make everyone to know He is the Almighty the Creator of everything , thereby leading people to Him.

God performed miracles in the lives of Abraham, Moses , Elijah, Jesus Christ etc. which no other gods can do .
When the people asked Muhammad , he just gave a funny answer as excuse.

I believe the God of the Israelites not the powerless Arab god.

It is only God that created the sea that can give it His command and it will obey:

Exodus 14:21-22 KJV
And Moses stretched out his hand over the sea; and the Lord caused the sea to go back by a strong east wind all that night, and made the sea dry land , and the waters were divided.
[22] And the children of Israel went into the midst of the sea upon the dry ground : and the waters were a wall unto them on their right hand, and on their left.

Matthew 8:24-27 KJV
And, behold, there arose a great tempest in the sea, insomuch that the ship was covered with the waves: but he was asleep. [25] And his disciples came to him , and awoke him, saying, Lord, save us: we perish.
[26] And he saith unto them, Why are ye fearful, O ye of little faith? Then he arose, and rebuked the winds and the sea; and there was a great calm.
[27] But the men marvelled, saying, What manner of man is this, that even the winds and the sea obey him!

Muhammad himself testified that :
Volume 9, Book 92, Number 379:

Narrated Abu Huraira:

The Prophet said, "There was no prophet among the prophets but was given miracles because of which people had security or had belief, but what I was given was the Divine Inspiration which Allah revealed to me. So I hope that my followers will be more than those of any other prophet on the Day of Resurrection."

And those things he called Divine inspirations were nothing but satanic inspirations .

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Re: What Every Christian Must Read by tartar9(m): 8:35pm On Jan 10, 2018
enilove:

[s]
The God Almighty should be able to show Himself as the Almighty . It would be an insult for Satan and his demons to do extraordinary things in form of signs , miracles and wonders and the Almighty will be looking .

If Muhammad did not make claim that the God of the Jews and Christians is Allah , no one will be bothered or I won't be bothered .
Right from the time God called Abraham , He has been showing Himself to be a miracle working God.

God told Abraham that He will perform a wonder that would make everyone to know He is the Almighty the Creator of everything , thereby leading people to Him.

God performed miracles in the lives of Abraham, Moses , Elijah, Jesus Christ etc. which no other gods can do .
When the people asked Muhammad , he just gave a funny answer as excuse.

I believe the God of the Israelites not the powerless Arab god.

It is only God that created the sea that can give it His command and it will obey:

Exodus 14:21-22 KJV
And Moses stretched out his hand over the sea; and the Lord caused the sea to go back by a strong east wind all that night, and made the sea dry land , and the waters were divided.
[22] And the children of Israel went into the midst of the sea upon the dry ground : and the waters were a wall unto them on their right hand, and on their left.

Matthew 8:24-27 KJV
And, behold, there arose a great tempest in the sea, insomuch that the ship was covered with the waves: but he was asleep. [25] And his disciples came to him , and awoke him, saying, Lord, save us: we perish.
[26] And he saith unto them, Why are ye fearful, O ye of little faith? Then he arose, and rebuked the winds and the sea; and there was a great calm.
[27] But the men marvelled, saying, What manner of man is this, that even the winds and the sea obey him!

Muhammad himself testified that :
Volume 9, Book 92, Number 379:

Narrated Abu Huraira:

The Prophet said, "There was no prophet among the prophets but was given miracles because of which people had security or had belief, but what I was given was the Divine Inspiration which Allah revealed to me. So I hope that my followers will be more than those of any other prophet on the Day of Resurrection."

And those things he called Divine inspirations were nothing but satanic inspirations .[/s]
What will the antichrist do?
Re: What Every Christian Must Read by danvon(m): 8:39pm On Jan 10, 2018
enilove:


The God Almighty should be able to show Himself as the Almighty . It would be an insult for Satan and his demons to do extraordinary things in form of signs , miracles and wonders and the Almighty will be looking .

If Muhammad did not make claim that the God of the Jews and Christians is Allah , no one will be bothered or I won't be bothered .
Right from the time God called Abraham , He has been showing Himself to be a miracle working God.

God told Abraham that He will perform a wonder that would make everyone to know He is the Almighty the Creator of everything , thereby leading people to Him.

God performed miracles in the lives of Abraham, Moses , Elijah, Jesus Christ etc. which no other gods can do .
When the people asked Muhammad , he just gave a funny answer as excuse.

I believe the God of the Israelites not the powerless Arab god.

It is only God that created the sea that can give it His command and it will obey:

Exodus 14:21-22 KJV
And Moses stretched out his hand over the sea; and the Lord caused the sea to go back by a strong east wind all that night, and made the sea dry land , and the waters were divided.
[22] And the children of Israel went into the midst of the sea upon the dry ground : and the waters were a wall unto them on their right hand, and on their left.

Matthew 8:24-27 KJV
And, behold, there arose a great tempest in the sea, insomuch that the ship was covered with the waves: but he was asleep. [25] And his disciples came to him , and awoke him, saying, Lord, save us: we perish.
[26] And he saith unto them, Why are ye fearful, O ye of little faith? Then he arose, and rebuked the winds and the sea; and there was a great calm.
[27] But the men marvelled, saying, What manner of man is this, that even the winds and the sea obey him!

Muhammad himself testified that :
Volume 9, Book 92, Number 379:

Narrated Abu Huraira:

The Prophet said, "There was no prophet among the prophets but was given miracles because of which people had security or had belief, but what I was given was the Divine Inspiration which Allah revealed to me. So I hope that my followers will be more than those of any other prophet on the Day of Resurrection."

And those things he called Divine inspirations were nothing but satanic inspirations .
Will the Antichrist/false prophets perform miracles?
Re: What Every Christian Must Read by enilove(m): 9:17pm On Jan 10, 2018
tartar9:

What will the antichrist do?

The anti Christ and the false prophets are one , which is the devil himself making use of the false prophets as beginning of his works to destroy the gospel of Jesus.

1 John 2:22 KJV
Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.

The miracles of the anti Christ is not now but it will be after the second coming of Jesus Christ.
Re: What Every Christian Must Read by tartar9(m): 10:35am On Jan 11, 2018
enilove:
[s]

The anti Christ and the false prophets are one , which is the devil himself making use of the false prophets as beginning of his works to destroy the gospel of Jesus.

1 John 2:22 KJV
Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.

The miracles of the anti Christ is not now but it will be after the second coming of Jesus Christ.[/s]



Stop contradicting yourself:

"The God Almighty should be able to show Himself as the Almighty . It would
be an insult for Satan and his demons to do extraordinary things in form of
signs , miracles and wonders and the Almighty will be looking"
Re: What Every Christian Must Read by enilove(m): 10:52am On Jan 11, 2018
tartar9:

Stop contradicting yourself:

"The God Almighty should be able to show Himself as the Almighty . It would
be an insult if Satan and his demons to do extraordinary things in form of
signs , miracles and wonders and the Almighty will be looking"

Is not a contradiction .
Re: What Every Christian Must Read by enilove(m): 10:54am On Jan 11, 2018
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Re: What Every Christian Must Read by tartar9(m): 10:58am On Jan 11, 2018
enilove:

Is not a contradiction .
Lol...mistake.
OK then,that means you're yet to offer a suitable response.
Re: What Every Christian Must Read by enilove(m): 11:08am On Jan 11, 2018
tartar9:

Lol...mistake.
OK then,that means you're yet to offer a suitable response.

Explain what the contradiction is in your own words , don't quote me.

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