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Ruling On A Child That Committed Suicide Before The Age Of Puberty by Lukgaf(m): 12:44pm On Jan 11
Praise be to Allaah.

Firstly

Suicide is a major sin. The Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) stated that the one who commits suicide will be punished with something like that with which he killed himself.

See the answer to question no. 70363

Secondly

There are known signs of puberty for both males and females. The male reaches puberty when one of three things happens: emission of maniy (semen), growth of pubic hair or reaching the age of fifteen years according to the Hijri calendar, which is a few months before reaching the age of fifteen according to the Gregorian calendar.

In females, puberty is reached when these three signs occur; in addition to that there is a fourth sign, namely menstruation.

It is not stipulated that all of these signs should appear; rather when one of them appears that is sufficient to rule that the individual has reached puberty.


Thirdly

Accountability is waived for the child who has not yet reached puberty, until he reaches that stage, because of the report narrated by Abu Dawood (4403) and at-Tirmidhi (1423) from ‘Ali (may Allah be pleased with him), that the Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) said: “The Pen has been lifted from three: from the sleeper until he awakens, from the child until he reaches puberty and from the insane person until he comes to his senses.”

Classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in Irwa’ al-Ghaleel, 2/4, no. 297

In al-Mawsoo‘ah al-Fiqhiyyah (8/196) it says:

A person becomes accountable for fulfilling obligatory duties and refraining from haraam actions when he or she reaches puberty; one who has not reached puberty is not accountable … and (one who has not reached puberty) is not subject to qisaas (retaliatory punishments) and hadd punishments, such as those for stealing and slander. However, it is permissible for him to be disciplined. End quote.



A person from whom the Pen has been lifted because he is insane or is a minor is not subject to qisaas (retaliatory punishment) if he injures or kills someone, whether the minor had reached the age of discernment or not, because the Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) said: “The Pen has been lifted from three: from the child until he reaches puberty, from the insane person until he comes to his senses and from the sleeper until he awakens.”

End quote from al-Haawi al-Kabeer, 12/181

Ibn Qudaamah (may Allah have mercy on him) said: A minor is not to be executed (in the case of apostasy), regardless of whether we say that his apostasy is valid or not, because the child is not subject to punishment, on the basis that the rulings on adultery and theft and other crimes that are subject to hadd punishments are not applicable to him to him and he cannot be executed in a retaliatory punishment (qisaas).

End quote from al-Mughni, 10/62

Based on that, there is no punishment in the Hereafter for a child if he does something before the age of puberty, which is attained when one of the signs mentioned above appears.

https://islamqa.info/en/177657

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Re: Ruling On A Child That Committed Suicide Before The Age Of Puberty by Rashduct4luv(m): 7:40am On Jan 12
See rulings again! Which way of life is more explicit and detailed like Islam? No doubt none exist! We Muslims just need a lots of Knowledge and understanding of Tawheed first. And i hope those who says Islam is synonymous to suicide bombing can start their research from here.
May Allah grant us understanding.

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Re: Ruling On A Child That Committed Suicide Before The Age Of Puberty by veekid(m): 9:09am On Jan 12
Ok
Re: Ruling On A Child That Committed Suicide Before The Age Of Puberty by marvin902(m): 9:10am On Jan 12
am sorry buh what kind of stupidity is this undecided undecided

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Re: Ruling On A Child That Committed Suicide Before The Age Of Puberty by Aldebaran(m): 9:14am On Jan 12
Rashduct4luv:
See rulings again! Which way of life is more explicit and detailed like Islam? No doubt none exist! We Muslims just need a lots of Knowledge and understanding of Tawheed first. And i hope those who says Islam is synonymous to suicide bombing can start their research from here.
May Allah grant us understanding.

AMIN

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Re: Ruling On A Child That Committed Suicide Before The Age Of Puberty by Abdulazeez007(m): 9:14am On Jan 12
marvin902:
am sorry buh what kind of stupidity is this undecided undecided
why not just ask a reasonable question. Stop being pessimistic.
Re: Ruling On A Child That Committed Suicide Before The Age Of Puberty by Abdulazeez007(m): 9:15am On Jan 12
MoshaAllah

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Re: Ruling On A Child That Committed Suicide Before The Age Of Puberty by Rashduct4luv(m): 9:17am On Jan 12
marvin902:
am sorry buh what kind of stupidity is this undecided undecided
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Only you can see stupidity in the post. You better check yourself!
Re: Ruling On A Child That Committed Suicide Before The Age Of Puberty by abiolag(m): 9:21am On Jan 12
Allahu Akbar
Re: Ruling On A Child That Committed Suicide Before The Age Of Puberty by Gbemishile1(m): 9:21am On Jan 12
uhm.we have laws in islam
only a person with very deep knowledge in that fatwa can only speak.i can not give any judgement cus am not knowledgeable in it.so are many nairalanders on this forum.go and meet ur alfa to enlighten u,cus many people here will give u different suggestiions that they have no deep knowledge of,and the xxtians will use it to talk rubbish
if u want to post on islam on fridays,give us tafseer and let us share ur knowledge,not posting quesations
Re: Ruling On A Child That Committed Suicide Before The Age Of Puberty by saydfact(m): 9:29am On Jan 12
thanks... May Allah reward you...
Re: Ruling On A Child That Committed Suicide Before The Age Of Puberty by marvin902(m): 9:30am On Jan 12
Abdulazeez007:
why not just ask a reasonable question. Stop being pessimistic.

am not..
buh is kind of appalling the things you guys have ruling for..
you guys have ruling for the way to walk,kiss,eat,piss even sex even this is unbelievable
wtf.. undecided undecided
and at the its the same muslims that break it like say tomorrow nor dey ..
nevertheless Christians still break theirs

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Re: Ruling On A Child That Committed Suicide Before The Age Of Puberty by aminu790(m): 9:35am On Jan 12
marvin902:


i warned your father to use a condom buh he refused now.. see the useless being he brought to this world..
Real knowledge is to know the extent of one's ignorance. I drop my pen.

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Re: Ruling On A Child That Committed Suicide Before The Age Of Puberty by ouzo1(m): 9:35am On Jan 12
Rashduct4luv:
See rulings again! Which way of life is more explicit and detailed like Islam? No doubt none exist! We Muslims just need a lots of Knowledge and understanding of Tawheed first. And i hope those who says Islam is synonymous to suicide bombing can start their research from here.
May Allah grant us understanding.

Amin
Re: Ruling On A Child That Committed Suicide Before The Age Of Puberty by marvin902(m): 9:51am On Jan 12
aminu790:

Real knowledge is to know the extent of one's ignorance. I drop my pen.


i believe your the ignorant one here... undecided undecided
its just saddened that your proud of your own stupidity

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Re: Ruling On A Child That Committed Suicide Before The Age Of Puberty by LadyGoddiva(f): 9:56am On Jan 12
But isn’t it exhausting ? This detailed, regimented life? We as humans have our flesh to deal with and it’s impossible to acquiesce and abide by all these rules and doctrines. That’s why I really dont blame people who turn into atheists because they realize that they are bound and chained by religion.
Rashduct4luv:
See rulings again! Which way of life is more explicit and detailed like Islam? No doubt none exist! We Muslims just need a lots of Knowledge and understanding of Tawheed first. And i hope those who says Islam is synonymous to suicide bombing can start their research from here.
May Allah grant us understanding.

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Re: Ruling On A Child That Committed Suicide Before The Age Of Puberty by smulti(m): 10:04am On Jan 12
aminu790:

Real knowledge is to know the extent of one's ignorance. I drop my pen.

did you actually wrote this post with a pen or maybe you used the old typewriter


just asking
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Re: Ruling On A Child That Committed Suicide Before The Age Of Puberty by Abdulazeez007(m): 10:15am On Jan 12
marvin902:


am not..
buh is kind of appalling the things you guys have ruling for..
you guys have ruling for the way to walk,kiss,eat,piss even sex even this is unbelievable
wtf.. undecided undecided
and at the its the same muslims that break it like say tomorrow nor dey ..
nevertheless Christians still break theirs
Islam is a religion that is clear. You know yourself, what you do and don't. You k know what is right from wrong. There are rules to abide with. The choice is left to you.

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Re: Ruling On A Child That Committed Suicide Before The Age Of Puberty by smulti(m): 10:19am On Jan 12
Rashduct4luv:
See rulings again! Which way of life is more explicit and detailed like Islam? No doubt none exist! We Muslims just need a lots of Knowledge and understanding of Tawheed first. And i hope those who says Islam is synonymous to suicide bombing can start their research from here.
May Allah grant us understanding.

@ the bolded

Who says that , are you not a witness to it, as almost on a daily occurrences at Muslim dominated North


all Muslims are not terrorist though, but all terrorist are Muslims

in your entire existence, have there been suicide bombing around Christian dominated South
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Re: Ruling On A Child That Committed Suicide Before The Age Of Puberty by marvin902(m): 10:30am On Jan 12
Abdulazeez007:
Islam is a religion that is clear. You know yourself, what you do and don't. You k know what is right from wrong. There are rules to abide with. The choice is left to you.



what rules are you talking about..
is it the childish rules that am seeing..
a rule that dictates how to kiss,hug,sex,walk,even toast a girl..e.t.c
rules that seems like imprisonment...
you call those childish rules worth abiding to..
please spare me..
sorry to say its just plain dumb undecided undecided

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Re: Ruling On A Child That Committed Suicide Before The Age Of Puberty by Rashduct4luv(m): 10:38am On Jan 12
smulti:


@ the bolded

Who says that , are you not a witness to it, as almost on a daily occurrences at Muslim dominated North


all Muslims are not terrorist though, but all terrorist are Muslims

in your entire existence, have there been suicide bombing around Christian dominated South
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I don't need to make that research for you! Use google and search for Christian terorrist , Jewish terrorists, atheist terrorist, etc.
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No doubt some Muslim may err in this regard but that should not be blamed on the Majority.
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1. A tree has some fruits.

2. A couple of fruits are bad.
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3. Then such tree is bad.
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Which kind logic is this?

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Re: Ruling On A Child That Committed Suicide Before The Age Of Puberty by Rashduct4luv(m): 10:46am On Jan 12
LadyGoddiva:
But isn’t it exhausting ? This detailed, regimented life? We as humans have our flesh to deal with and it’s impossible to acquiesce and abide by all these rules and doctrines. That’s why I really dont blame people who turn into atheists because they realize that they are bound and chained by religion.
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I think being an Atheist is the worst kind of state of mind.
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At the end if God exists, Atheist loose...
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And on the so many rules in Islam: Why are we quick in obeying man-made laws but always complain about the Creator's law? Islam is a total way of life!
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To achieve the best (Paradise) hard work is needed.
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To Achieve the worst (Hell) hard work is also needed.
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Now you can define the kind of hard work you need and where you aspire to be in the end!

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Re: Ruling On A Child That Committed Suicide Before The Age Of Puberty by smulti(m): 10:55am On Jan 12
Rashduct4luv:


I don't need to make that research for you! Use google and search for Christian terorrist , Jewish terrorists, atheist terrorist, etc.
.
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No doubt some Muslim may err in this regard but that should not be blamed on the Majority.
.
1. A tree has some fruits.

2. A couple of fruits are bad.
.
3. Then such tree is bad.
.
Which kind logic is this?

Suicide bombing was given a green light the day sharia law was introduced in northern States ( radical Islam ) it has come to stay as long as the few Claver ones amongst them are making profit from it and at the same time damaging the images of Islam
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Re: Ruling On A Child That Committed Suicide Before The Age Of Puberty by aminu790(m): 11:20am On Jan 12
smulti:


did you actually wrote this post with a pen or maybe you used the old typewriter


just asking
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No, I used Metaphor
Re: Ruling On A Child That Committed Suicide Before The Age Of Puberty by smulti(m): 11:22am On Jan 12
Rashduct4luv:

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I think being an Atheist is the worst kind of state of mind.
.
At the end if God exists, Atheist loose...
.
And on the so many rules in Islam: Why are we quick in obeying man-made laws but always complain about the Creator's law? Islam is a total way of life!
.
To achieve the best (Paradise) hard work is needed.
.
To Achieve the worst (Hell) hard work is also needed.
.
Now you can define the kind of hard work you need and where you aspire to be in the end!

cc LadyGoddiva


because this section is restricted and you the only lady amongst several men you've got to be intimidated with archaic doctrines in the name of being religious
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Re: Ruling On A Child That Committed Suicide Before The Age Of Puberty by mrMeen(m): 11:24am On Jan 12
LadyGoddiva:
But isn’t it exhausting ? This detailed, regimented life? We as humans have our flesh to deal with and it’s impossible to acquiesce and abide by all these rules and doctrines. That’s why I really dont blame people who turn into atheists because they realize that they are bound and chained by religion.
there are chains that one does not want to be free from after all each and everything is explained to you In perfect detail so it is up to you to determine how you want to live your life either as a sinner or as a believer.

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