[quote author=timwudz post=65349574]This is Christ like...
A true picture of what pastors should do, nor exhorting money or turning church to a business making money and putting their sons as pastors in their branches



Jesus Christ did the same.. if Jesus was born in this era do u think Jesus won't used private jets, Ferrari and so on...and if this preist is well balance with money do u think he won't build big auditorium for this people?? thunder fire poverty

thesicilian:

Are the 6 poor members as rich as Oyedepo today?

A million dollar question.

You shouldn’t my dear...spend time reading the Bible and praying for understanding!

mayorall:



Sorry, I don't do e-wars....

muykem:
That your judgement because you have now taken position of God.

Now, the usual "thou shall not judge" defence mechanism is here.

Telling the truth about a pastor is not judgement. It is just what it is: telling the truth!

That's how stupid and idiotic Pentecostal Christians are. When anyone says what a pastor does, the blind dead brain idiots will start calling it judgement. Do they even know the meaning of judgement?

Read your Bible then come back and talk sense.

HegenIkomkeh:
These are the kind of folks who sit in the comfort of their bedrooms and defame Men of God out of chronic ignorance.
Those names you mentioned started working for God in obscurity before God uplifted them and made them big.
Still,do you know the kind of massive things they do behind the scenes to help people?
Have you ever bothered to check?
You just come and starting typing rubbish with out having useful information.

Unlike some of our pastors
Only there to take the little their members
Have..bloody ripoffs

ThisKC:


In the Catholic Church, setups like this, albeit temporary, usually have something called communion tags for communicants (Catholics will understand this). The basket containing these tags are kept conspicously for easy access for people to pick up. That could be why the basket was there.

Na lie.

Me na Catholic too.

Communion tags are kept at the back or exit of the church such that communicants can pick it up when they enter the church assuming they want to receive the holy communion that day

You want to tell me that the communion tag is better positioned in the front such that anyone who wants to commune will have to come to the front and by so doing disturb/distract others while the sermon may be going on?

No way.

That basket there in the front serves only but one purpose.

Just wait for...

The offering time!

OP this your Story no dey add up. Whats d@ purple Basket for ?

achiever12:


Now, the usual "thou shall not judge" defence mechanism is here.

Telling the truth about a pastor is not judgement. It is just what it is: telling the truth!

That's how stupid and idiotic Pentecostal Christians are. When anyone says what a pastor does, the blind dead brain idiots will start calling it judgement. Do they even know the meaning of judgement?

Read what you wrote again and judge yourself in the school of decorum.

muykem:
When you know all these secrets to the realm of success why are you continue to live a miserable life? Why not do same and started flying private jet?

I am not a fake man of God who will lie, cheat, cajole n threaten the children of God to give m Money, Its a sin, It is evil and it is same as offline 419 or online 419 fraud.


It's crass stupidity to stay online and assume that people u meet are poor and miserable.


Oyedepo is nothing but a common thief who Preys on citizens of Nigeria because of poverty.

The Jesus he claims that he is following his footsteps never paid armed soldiers to guard him, never used a convoy consisting of fleets of cars, he never bought lands n dtiref them, Jesus simply gave away everything he had to everyone around him each time he had anything.


Any pastor that is preaching a Christ like life n doesn't share the little he has with his followers 're simply thieves

That's the war torn south sudan

Haganah:
Read your Bible then come back and talk sense.

Brother,your first statement didn't have any trace of sense therein that's why I quoted you.
You have no right whatsoever to defame pastor Adeboye,Oyedepo or Chris because you feel they are not doing what you want.
Do you know how many people those guys have helped climbed up around the world??
You shouldn't be getting pained over someone else's success in spreading the Gospel.
Ask questions if you don't know and facts would be provided for you sir.

muykem:
Read what you wrote again and judge yourself in the school of decorum.

Your comment shows you are aligned with self deception and mental blindness. Read it again and judge for yourself. Mental slave

PrecisionFx:




I am not a fake man of God who will lie, cheat, cajole n threaten the children of God to give m Money, Its a sin, It is evil and it is same as offline 419 or online 419 fraud.


It's crass stupidity to stay online and assume that people u meet are poor and miserable.


Oyedepo is nothing but a common thief who Preys on citizens of Nigeria because of poverty.

The Jesus he claims that he is following his footsteps never paid armed soldiers to guard him, never used a convoy consisting of fleets of cars, he never bought lands n dtiref them, Jesus simply gave away everything he had to everyone around him each time he had anything.


Any pastor that is preaching a Christ like life n doesn't share the little he has with his followers 're simply thieves

Where do you get your facts from please?
Last time I checked oyedepo is a millionaire and has helped thousands of people around the world.
Stop spreading false information and unnecessary hate.

HegenIkomkeh:
Where do you get your facts from please?
Last time I checked oyedepo is a millionaire and has helped thousands of people around the world.
Stop spreading false information and unnecessary hate.

Millionaires make their money through one business or the other. Please can u tell me which business oyedepo opened that made millions of dollars for him? Didn't he recently say he's worth more than 150 million dollars or sth like that?

Haganah:
Our businessmen of today (Adeboye, Oyedepo, Chris O., etc) will never do this.

Some of these present day men of god will condemn Christ for being materially poor saying he has not paid his tithes.

May GOD punish them all!!!

[b][/b]blaspheming

Christ is king. Spread his gospel to all corners of the earth.

sexdoll:


Na lie.

Me na Catholic too.

Communion tags are kept at the back or exit of the church such that communicants can pick it up when they enter the church assuming they want to receive the holy communion that day

You want to tell me that the communion tag is better positioned in the front such that anyone who wants to commune will have to come to the front and by so doing disturb/distract others while the sermon may be going on?

No way.

That basket there in the front serves only but one purpose.

Just wait for...

The offering time!

Maybe it is for offering. Which is part of the mass.

Even in Rome, the offering rite has to be carried out at every mass.
The catch in the Catholic church is that no one forces you to stand up and go for offering.
You're even encouraged to squeeze you hand so no one knows what you plan to give as offering.

You can plant your butt firmly on your seat and not move. No one's gonna force you or question you as to why you didn't give.

PrecisionFx:


Millionaires make their money through one business or the other. Please can u tell me which business oyedepo opened that made millions of dollars for him?

To start with,Oyedepo is a best selling book author who has over fifty best selling books at least in Nigeria and around the world.
He has a publishing company and his ministry brags of the second best university in the country presently.
Finally everything he has is given to him by God and no matter how severely people like you defame him,he will keep getting higher cause who God has blessed no man can curse.As simple as Abc.

muykem:
Is any church in the world that started in big auditorium with plenty members? This one even have people to preach to. Oyedepo started his own church with poor 6 members. I have been following some unguided statement concerning men of God. The word of God said, have you see a man diligent in his work he will seat among the kings and not with mean men. Do you people think pastors are excepted from seated with kings.

I think you are missing the point.
Catholic church did not start today. It is the oldest church in the world. they send missionaries to remote areas all over world. Fishing out areas like this. Most of those areas the priest even feed them. Beg them to come to church just to know God. There are a lot of priests in church on this mission. Their congregation rotate them. those areas there is no hope getting rich member. It is church that is feeding most of them. the congregation and other Catholic communities send donations to assist the priest take care of them.

Go to the ends of the earth and preach the gospel...


They did not say go to the ends of the earth to collect tithe.. They did not say go to the ends of the earth and be renting halls even in the market square, they didn't say go to the ends of the earth to buy private jet.


These pastorpreneurs will not go to chibok to preach..

dingbang:
Go to the ends of the earth and preach the gospel...


They did not say go to the ends of the earth to collect tithe.. They did not say go to the ends of the earth and be renting halls even in the market square, they didn't say go to the ends of the earth to buy private jet.


These pastorpreneurs will not go to chibok to preach..

I don't know why this issue of private jet is paining you guys soo much.
You guys are here crying like you were there when they were making very hard sacrifices for the kingdom of God in the 80's and 90's.
Now God has lifted them high and you are here complaining.
Its hard to understand.

Yonce:



Maybe it is for offering. Which is part of the mass.

Even in Rome, the offering rite has to be carried out at every mass.
The catch in the Catholic church is that no one forces you to stand up and go for offering.
You're even encouraged to squeeze you hand so no one knows what you plan to give as offering.

You can plant your butt firmly on your seat and not move. No one's gonna force you or question you as to why you didn't give.

You're right.

After all fada must chop too.

No need to wait for the reward in heaven.

Hahaha

Haganah:
See them.

Show me where the apostles of Christ had bodyguards, private horse carriages, impressive buildings, or phony titles.

Don’t allow the quest for riches make you afraid of saying the truth when you see it. These men are scams and they know it!

See how you misquoted th bible to fit your idea of wealth! So Christ and his apostles were not diligent in their works.

Whenever Christ and his apostles encountered kings, etc it was as a result of their stand for the faith and they used that opportunity to pass judgement message.

But your men of god bless thieves and drink with them and never tell them he truth. Is Osibanjo not a pastor?

My brother pray for God to remove the scales from your eyes before it’s too late!!!!!!

In my humble opinion, I think you are the one that has to pray to God to remove the 'scales' in ur eyes

muykem:
Is any church in the world that started in big auditorium with plenty members? This one even have people to preach to. Oyedepo started his own church with poor 6 members. I have been following some unguided statement concerning men of God. The word of God said, have you see a man diligent in his work he will seat among the kings and not with mean men. Do you people think pastors are excepted from seated with kings.

Pastor, good morning Sir. How work go dy today na

When the catholic church finished bringing them out...then the big tithers take over from there and smile to the bank

RELIGION!
Opium for POVERTY!

The mind is a terrible thing to waste INDEED!

HegenIkomkeh:
To start with,Oyedepo is a best selling book author who has over fifty best selling books at least in Nigeria and around the world.
He has a publishing company and his ministry brags of the second best university in the country presently.
Finally everything he has is given to him by God and no matter how severely people like you defame him,he will keep getting higher cause who God has blessed no man can curse.As simple as Abc.

""God has blessed no man can curse""


God does not bless any man with money. Money responds to hard work n smart work. That is why we have billionaire Muslims, Hindu, ATRs, Christians, Atheists, Deists Etc.

Oyedepo opened opened church out of the blues, Gathered members and collected tithe n offerings from them and used the money to establish secondary schools, publishing companies, establish new church business branches.



Oga which useless best selling books are u talking about Do u even know what a best seller is
Pls list the books that he sold in the 1970s that were best sellers and made some millions of dollars



Did he build his university in 1979 From which business did he make billions of naira to build a private university.

ThisKC:


So basket naturally means it's for offering? Ogbeni ask questions and liberate yourself from sheer and utter ignorance

Professor knowledge.The basket is there for collecting breeze.Mr/Mrs know all.

Sirs, this church is not in this condition because they want to. Everybody there wants to worship in an auditorium well tiled, air conditioned, well ceiled, well ventilated etc. But the truth is if they eventually put up an edifice there you lots here will still shout that they are wasting money that is meant to be given to the poor.


Yeah you are not paying tithe but you are celebrating mediocrity. Christianity is not synonymous to poverty. Yes my church collects tithe and offerings but has some of the biggest church facilities you could find any where in the world yet without raising any money or launching for it

The basket is for offering which is given to the needy.

This is the real way Christians are supposed to pursue the preaching of the gospel not looking for where you will get financial reward. The white missionaries came to Africa and gave us everything including free education so as to motivate people in spreading the gospel but they never ask for all sorts of offering in return. But they keep giving to the poor even from their own pocket. But today our yahoo boys pastors have changed salvation message to prosperity message, encouraging people to do all sorts of things just make you hammer and pay tithe. We on our part have become so lazy and are now looking for quick way to get money. This is the major problem we have...