Let us read an article on PRIESTHOOD 
1. Oluwo:


This is a man who has studied and practiced Ifa as a priest for many many years and has not only seen Orisa Odu but owns Orisa Odu (Olodu: owner of Odu) and works with this deity. The Oluwo is the only person who can initiate men into Ifa (Itelodu style). Itelodu is a male Ifa initiation where the men see Orisa Odu as part of their Ifa initiation. And of course, he is the only one that can give someone Orisa Odu.


2. Babalawo:

This is a man who has been initiated into Ifa and has completed a minimum of 5 years of apprenticeship with an Elder Awo, and eventually earns the title of Babalawo. They may or may not have seen Orisa Odu. During the period of apprenticeship, all Ifa apprentices are known as Omo Awo.

If a male has gone through Ifa initiation in which they saw Orisa Odu, this type of Ifa Initiation is called Itelodu. These Ifa Initiates if they decide to be practicing priests (Babalawo) can participate in any type of ceremony where Orisa Odu is being used.
If a male has gone through Ifa initiation in which they didn’t see Orisa Odu, this type of Ifa Initiation is called Itefa. These Ifa Initiates if they decide to be practicing priests (Babalawo) cannot participate directly in any ceremony where Orisa Odu is being used. They are not allowed in the room if Orisa Odu is being propitiated and worked with but they can do other things that do not pertain to Orisa Odu during a ceremony. These are the Babalawos known as Awo Elegan.
Note: Depending on the region, everyone does things a bit different. Some regions make all male Ifa Initiates see Orisa Odu while some regions select only a few chosen men. The reason behind allowing only certain men to see Orisa Odu is something I haven’t investigated yet but these regional differences are real.

3. Iyanifa:


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This is a woman who has been initiated into Ifa and has completed a minimum of 5 years of apprenticeship with an Elder Awo, and eventually earns the title of Iyanifa. During the period of apprenticeship, all Ifa apprentices are known as Omo Awo.

Note: By default, all women Ifa initiates who are practicing Ifa priests (Iyanifa) also fall into this category of Awo Elegan because women under no circumstance can see, work with, or possess Orisa Odu. The reason for this is beyond the scope of this website.

Note: There are many regional differences in existence around women being Ifa Initiates and/or Ifa Priests:

Some areas do not allow women to be fully initiated into Ifa at all and the women only go through a ceremony called Isefa which is the ceremony of Owo ifa kan (One hand of Ifa) or another ceremony called Isode (Where the woman receives the Ide of Orunmila and must marry a Babalawo and then becomes an Apetebi)
Other areas allow women to be initiated into Ifa (Itefa) and allow them to become Iyanifa one day but they only allow them to cast Ifa with Opele.
Then you have other areas which women are initiated into IFA (Itefa) and they cast Ifa with both ikin and opele.
However; after research conducted around Yoruba land and surrounding areas I have found that there is no odu in existence that prohibits women casting Ifa with ikin.

4. Awo Atemaki:
These are men initiated into Ifa (Itelodu or Itefa) and women initiated into Ifa (Itefa) who after Ifa Initiation decide that they do not want to take on an apprenticeship and be Ifa Priests (Babalawo or Iyanifa). These are the people who initiate into Ifa to simply receive their full destinies.

These people can go on to practice as Olorisa priests, Egungun priests, Oro priests, etc… if they so desire or some can decide not to be priests at all but just worshipers.

Olorisa:
They must learn all the taboos and praise names of the Orisa they are initiated into.
They must know how to feed (Akunlebo) and take care of their Orisa.
They must know how to prepare and give their Orisa to others.
They must know how to initiate others into their Orisa.
They must know how to greet their Orisa.
They must know how to solve peoples problems effectively through their Orisa, help people in their community, and be role models of character to others.
Non Priests:
They should perform the 5/5 day Ose Ifa ritual.
They should be initiated into Ifa to at least have their full Destiny. These are the Awo Atemaki.
They must pray every morning before starting their day to Olodumare, Ori, the Irunmole, the Orisa, and the Egungun.
They must act with good character and teach their children the same.
Code of Conduct for Priests and Non-Priests
Within our tradition; the display of good character is essential but what is good character? Following are the four areas of character which Priests and Non-Priests need to be displaying in their lives 24/7.
Remember… There are consequences for acting without character. Esu is always watching… Olodumare is always watching…

I – Honesty:
According to Ifa, Honesty means thinking, speaking, and acting in truth without bitterness, deceit, or hidden agendas. Being honest also means being able to recognize our limitations, having the courage to accept our guilt or misdeeds, and the ability to refuse to reap the rewards off of others hard work. Basically you must be open minded, rational, realistic to yourself, others, nature, and to Olodumare. Ifa says that Olodumare sent human beings into this world to do good and nothing more and this is how human beings will be judged.

II – Patience:
In Ifa patience means perseverance, endurance, and being level headed. Perseverance is the power of showing care and close attention to work or situation that proves difficult or tiring.

Endurance is the power of bearing pain or discomfort without complaining. Level headed is the ability to wait for something calmly for a long time and the ability to control oneself when angered, especially at slowness or foolishness. In Ifa, rushing into things or looking for magical instantaneous solutions to any problem is out of place. One must be patient at all times.

III – Humility:
An Ifa follower must never behave as if all their achievements in life were from self-effort alone. They must recognize that all their achievements were through Olodumare and the deities. No knowledge or power was brought into this world from heaven. We all acquired such knowledge and power through formal observation, imitation, and learning from others. Because of this there is no room for any Ifa follower to display arrogance or look down upon others. We all learn from each other and no one is self-taught anything and this is why humility is so important.

IV – Hopefulness:
In Ifa being hopeful means having the belief that tomorrow will be better than today. The belief that no matter how bad the present situation may be, it is just temporary and the painful situation will soon give way to peace, joy, gains, and prosperity. Ifa followers must be hopeful at all times and realize that heaven is home and the world is the market place, so one must always be prepared to confront obstacles in ones life and realize that we can overcome and learn from all obstacles.

 



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Despite all the powerful jazz, the gods of old, our "able" ancestral spirits, the babalawos and the dibias, Africa was still conquered, plundered and colonized by white skin invaders.

Sad!

MrRichmond:


Despite all the powerful jazz, the gods of old, our "able" ancestral spirits, the babalawos and the dibias, Africa was still conquered, plundered and colonized by white skin invaders.

Sad!

the jazz was not powerful jare

MrRichmond:


Despite all the powerful jazz, the gods of old, our "able" ancestral spirits, the babalawos and the dibias, Africa was still conquered, plundered and colonized by white skin invaders.

Sad!

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chrisbaxtian:



the jazz was not powerful jare

You are very funny lol to 'Jazz was not powerful'

First of all you are making a big mistak onto thinking one jazz is what wins war, that is a very big mistake. 'Jazz' as you may call it is just something that exist and does not exist as such. It was more like something lifting the morale of the Warriors.

The whites never conquered the Oyo as such, they did not stand a chance when they came first time as potugese and even the brits were delts with massivly. They were being killed like ants by the then Benin Empire. Go and read history.

Meanwhile Empire always come and go. Ottoman empire (What the North Arewa reffer to as Ousman danfodio) were the main tools used to attack kawara and benin. it was more of a betrayal of trust which the brites then used to their advantage. Dont forget the Ottoman empire too was conquered by the Brits finally. In Oyo the new Oyo under alafin Atiba conquered the Ottoman Jihadist but the Brits used that to its advantage.

Now going back to Jazz or no Jazz.
During the first world war, the Ottoman empire had the biggest army in the world but was technologically lacking behind and it was obvious that they could not win that war as the west were more technologically advance.

same thing goes to many African nations that were conquered. It was more of technological superiority but not Jazz or Orisa religion.

If for anything, Orisa religion has nothing much to do with fighting wars but the warriors do. There is never anything in Orisa that supports using its pricinples laid down by Olodumare handed over to Orumila to fight a religious war like you have in crussade(Christinity) and Jihad(Islam).

And this is how you will know Orisa religion is more superior to the arrogant east and west mere ideology parading itself as a religion.

Please don't get it twitted.

Rewind to the days of Esu ija. Read about the story of Esu Ija. During his rain, all the invaders were killed and prisoners of war were turned to slaves. These were more like stone age where there was no much technology but Ifa.

Many do not know that there is Mathematics, Physics, Philosophy, Peotry, Music, Religion, Chemistry, Medicine in Ifa super structure. It's a super structure of knowledge.

What was needed in Ifa would have been continous research by the branch in ifa known as Elewe Omo(my opinion here). They could have continued the technological advancement but did not.

So please stop saying one Jazz or no Jazz mantra in 2018. Study and try to understand your traditional identity first.

scully95:


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You are very funny lol to 'Jazz was not powerful'

First of all you are making a big mistak onto thinking one jazz is what wins war, that is a very big mistake. 'Jazz' as you may call it is just something that exist and does not exist as such. It was more like something lifting the morale of the Warriors.

The whites never conquered the Oyo as such, they did not stand a chance when they came first time as potugese and even the brits were delts with massivly. They were being killed like ants by the then Benin Empire. Go and read history.

Meanwhile Empire always come and go. Ottoman empire (What the North Arewa reffer to as Ousman danfodio) were the main tools used to attack kawara and benin. it was more of a betrayal of trust which the brites then used to their advantage. Dont forget the Ottoman empire too was conquered by the Brits finally. In Oyo the new Oyo under alafin Atiba conquered the Ottoman Jihadist but the Brits used that to its advantage.

Now going back to Jazz or no Jazz.
During the first world war, the Ottoman empire had the biggest army in the world but was technologically lacking behind and it was obvious that they could not win that war as the west were more technologically advance.

same thing goes to many African nations that were conquered. It was more of technological superiority but not Jazz or Orisa religion.

If for anything, Orisa religion has nothing much to do with fighting wars but the warriors do. There is never anything in Orisa that supports using its pricinples laid down by Olodumare handed over to Orumila to fight a religious war like you have in crussade(Christinity) and Jihad(Islam).

And this is how you will know Orisa religion is more superior to the arrogant east and west mere ideology parading itself as a religion.

Please don't get it twitted.

Rewind to the days of Esu ija. Read about the story of Esu Ija. During his rain, all the invaders were killed and prisoners of war were turned to slaves. These were more like stone age where there was no much technology but Ifa.

Many do not know that there is Mathematics, Physics, Philosophy, Peotry, Music, Religion, Chemistry, Medicine in Ifa super structure. It's a super structure of knowlege.

What was needed in Ifa would have been continous research by the branch in ifa known as Elewe Omo. They could have continued the technological advancement but did not.

So please stop saying one Jazz or no Jazz mantra in 2018. Study and try to understand your traditional identity first.

excuses! your post is filled with lame excuses! African traditional religion was almost uprooted entirely by invading religions such as Islam and Christianity! if the JuJu was strong, no such thing would have occurred. the truth is something superior came along and the inferior bowed out

chrisbaxtian:



excuses! your post is filled with lame excuses! African traditional religion was almost uprooted entirely by invading religions such as Islam and Christianity! if the JuJu was strong, no such thing would have occurred. the truth is something superior came along and the inferior bowed out

Read it again... You dont know anything about wars and please learn something about Wars and Relgion. Two different things.. The two are different ok. No excuse, it's still what it is. Even though Oyo empire were pretty much backing the tradition of Yoruba people (This is known as Politically correct ideas which often work against cultural openess). The technological advancement was more important in the system of Knowlege Ifa.

' African traditional religion almost uprooted entirely' - Then you don't understand the basic principles of Orisa.
If you dont know please stop typing already because of iggornance. I believe other invisible african religions follow this bacis principles too.

Just one that you may not know... If Jesus were born in Oyo. He would be elevated to the status of Orisa OK.
Now you have over 400 of them that you can choose from. This is known as looking for your Ori.

The Basic principles of Orisa even allow a new ideology entirely to come and starts its own ideology (christianity and Islam here) except that it must not use war or force. This is the Basic principle of Orisa. Looking for your Ori so you can live its lifestyle.

Learn about your traditional identity again and stop the same hearsay.

scully95:


Read it again... You dont know anything about wars and please learn something about Wars and Relgion. Two different things.. The two are different ok. No excuse, it's still what it is.

ogbeni! war was a tool for the spread of religion! eg Islam. as for the other stuff you are yapping about, your orisas couldn't stop Christianity and Islam from tagging them as demonic and winning over converts. face it oga, you are powerless

chrisbaxtian:



excuses! your post is filled with lame excuses! African traditional religion was almost uprooted entirely by invading religions such as Islam and Christianity! if the JuJu was strong, no such thing would have occurred. the truth is something superior came along and the inferior bowed out

In as much I do not want to turn this discussion here to religion war, it is very important to correct some stances so that others won't just get derailed by the fallacy you put up there.

Ifa is not a religion per say. It is a form of spiritual system which connect one with the natural world. This process start by knowing self and the world around us. There is no doctrine, no rule or ethical ways of practicing. Moreso, it was not founded by anyone which is the reason why it is called Adayeba. One fascinating fact about Ifa is that it tolerate any religion be it Christianity or Islam. This is what gave you the impression that these religions are encroaching on the traditional settings.

Do you know that your Christianity since ages have been Yorubanised? Oh you need to go to Celetial church and some white garment churches. There form of worship is pure idolatry and they allow their Shepherd to own Ifa.

Do you know that Reformed Ogboni frat is formed by Rev Bishop of Baptist church? There are pastors and Imam in this society. What do you think they do there? Worship sweet Jesus or Allah? You got to be deceiving yourself.

Move closer to the Imams and Alfas, they are pure aborisha hiding under one useless Islamic religion. I have many of them who practice Isese. They own Ifa and sometime Osanyin. This doesn't stop them from going to thr mosque.

You are seeing all these because Yoruba are very tolerant and adapt to any weather. We don't fight over seneless religion or bomb religion places all in the name of a God. The definition of true love is in Ifa not any religion tou could think of.

The reality is that no God will fight your senseless war for you. The Muslims are killing the Christians in the middle east, Northern Nigeria and even in the Middle belt. They are bombing churches, killing Christians, defying your wifes, killing your priests in churches but what has your God down? This tell that the supremacy battle is senseless. Do what pleases you and let other do theirs. Let us leave in peace and make the world a better place rather than fighting over a dead God in faraway East.

MrRichmond:


Despite all the powerful jazz, the gods of old, our "able" ancestral spirits, the babalawos and the dibias, Africa was still conquered, plundered and colonized by white skin invaders.

Sad!

Your brothers sold you to the white skinned invaders who conquered, plundered and colonized. They sold your people because of greed. These white didn't conquer Ethiopia. Remember

chrisbaxtian:


ogbeni! war was a tool for the spread of religion! eg Islam. as for the other stuff you are yapping about, your orisas couldn't stop Christianity and Islam from tagging them as demonic and winning over converts. face it oga, you are powerless

Again you are missing the basic principles of Orisa. What you are saying is Political correctness working against cultural openess. The first muslim to enter Oyo were welcomed and were practising their belief without political correctness.

Yes, the Jihadist war only removed the Oyo Empire but dont frget that Alafin Atiba in New Oyo again pushed the Jagidist advances back to Kwara where a treaty was reached. ( Check history of omo Eniyan worldwide) Empire always come and go. This is a fact ok. Where is Greek empire today ?
You can ask the same question as to where is Oyo Empire today ?

So to be realistic, Empires will always come and go. Orisa is still practiced till date and you still have followers of Orisa. Same goes to other African traditional identity.

Converts could be those looking for their Ori. If your Ori is in other ideology, so be it, you are free.. This is the basic principle of Orisa itself. You are just mixing everything up.

Those that were forced to convert, this is Jihad and Crussade religious war at play which is usually more political rather than religious. What you will never find in Orisa. This is why re-investigating your traditional identity is very important so you can know the truth.

What you are saying is Orisa should also set up something like Jihadi and Crussade. This is wrong and we dont have such and will never have it.

Do you know why they say IseSe Lagba ? It's deep. ISESE = Yoruba civilization, Culture, Tradition, Orisa, Cultural identity, Ifa...

Truth always win anyday any time ok. I am not disagreeing with the fact that Jihad and Crussade went on. I am just telling you Islam was even the first to enter Oyo and were practising their beliefs without any issue. Even before the war ok. So get it right for once pls.

chrisbaxtian:


ogbeni! war was a tool for the spread of religion! eg Islam. as for the other stuff you are yapping about, your orisas couldn't stop Christianity and Islam from tagging them as demonic and winning over converts. face it oga, you are powerless

And we are telling you that Ifa is not a religion but a spiritual system. These are two different things. Let me give you some hints.

Religion was founded by a person or group of people. Spirituality is not.

Religion creates a divisibility among people. It is either you belong to them or against them. Spirituality is all about uniformity of the universe, no one cares if you follow or not what they believe in.

Religion is guided with norm, regulation, doctrines and code of engagement. Spirituality involves non of these.

Religion purpose is to reach God. Spirituality makes you a God.

One many levels, religion is different from a spiritual setting. Accept that or not.

It is the common ways of a religion to demonize other religion even another set within same religion. The muslim slams and make jokes about Jesus. They insult the churches and often tag your pastors as tithe thieves. If there is anyone that have been ridicule most, it is the pastors who receive heap of insults for defrauding their gullible followers. The Christians do the same to themselves. Jehovah witness banning their followers from marrying other Christian sects. Baptist insulting Catholic. Trinitarian slamming monotarian, tithers against non-tithers. One pastor supporting maturation and the other disregarding it. There is no uniformity in the religion and that is the grave problem. Sunni are happy that Shiite are been killed. These are not strange to Yoruba who says Sadura ki n sami, ko fa ija. Meaning pray and I wil answer amen, this shouldn't turn to fight. This should tell that there is more WISDOM in Yoruba spirituality.

Ifa is been accepted globally today. Go to America. There is increasing acceptance of Ifa in South and North America. The so called invaders are now flocking into Southwest Nigeria so that they can be initiated into Ifa or any Orisha society. The churches in Europe are now been abandoned by the whites. These European are looking into the far East and Africa. Who and who visits churches in Europe except gullible blacks? The so called missionaries are now Onifa, Ìyá Osun and the likes. You brother is losing the other end of the rod.

GodFreyinNORSE:


And we are telling you that Ifa is not a religion but a spiritual system. These are two different things. Let me give you some hints.

Religion was founded by a person or group of people. Spirituality is not.

Religion creates a divisibility among people. It is either you belong to them or against them. Spirituality is all about uniformity of the universe, no one cares if you follow what they believe in.

Religion is guided with norm, regulation, doctrines and code of engagement. Spirituality involves non of these.

Religion purpose is to reach God. Spirituality makes you a God.

One many levels, religion is different from a religion setting. Accept that or not.

It is the common ways of a religion to demonize other religion even another set within same religion. The muslim slams and make jokes about Jesus. They insult the churches and often tag your pastors as tithe thieves. If there is anyone that have been ridicule most, it is the pastors who receive heap of insults for defrauding their gullible followers. The Christians do the same to themselves. Jehovah witness banning their followers from marrying other Christian sects. Baptist insulting Catholic. Trinitarian slamming monotarian, tithers against non-tithers. One pastor supporting maturation and the other disregarding it. There is no uniformity in the religion and that is the grave problem. Sunni are happy that Shiite are been killed. These are not strange to Yoruba who says Sadura ki n sami, ko fa ija. Meaning pray and I wil answer amen, this shouldn't turn to fight. This should tell that there is more WISDOM in Yoruba spirituality.

Ifa is been accepted globally today. Go to America. There is increasing acceptance of Ifa in South and North America. The so called invaders are now flocking into Southwest Nigeria so that they can be initiated into Ifa or any Orisha society. The churches in Europe are now been abandoned by the whites. These European are looking into the far East and Africa. Who and who visits churches in Europe except gullible blacks? The so called missionaries are now Onifa, Ìyá Osun and the likes. You brother is losing the other end of the rod.

the "ifa is not a religion, but a spiritual system" is a smooth and somewhat slippery way of dodging the simple truth I have put forward to you. I have heard similar arguments from Christians and Muslims alike, who claim they do not practice religion, but a system/way of life/relationship that links them with their creator. there is no power in what you are involved in. that is my position and I stand by it. the whites flocking towards you are just after exoctic things (for tourism, arts and academic knowledge) not that they really dig the orisa stuff you are all about. ifa is just exoctic, that's why the foreigners are interested in it, no need to make a big deal out of it!

chrisbaxtian:



the "ifa is not a religion, but a spiritual system" is a smooth and somewhat slippery way of dodging the simple truth I have put forward to you. I have heard similar arguments from Christians and Muslims alike, who claim they do not practice religion, but a system/way of life/relationship that links them with their creator. there is no power in what you are involved in. that is my position and I stand by it. the whites flocking towards you are just after exoctic things (for tourism, arts and academic knowledge) not that they really dig the orisa stuff you are all about. ifa is just exoctic, that's why the foreigners are interested in it, no need to make a big deal out of it!

Lol. You are funny again.

What is Power ?
Knowlege is Power.
There is super power in the Ifa Super structure of Knowledge !
This is where you are missing the real deal again.

Ifa is a system of Knowledge ( a way of life, spirituality...) and the first of its kind ever. Let me remind you also of the first ever coding system ever known to Omoeniyan is Ifa 16 digits coding system.

What is similar to your/the western/Eastern Invention of Religion in Ifa spirituality is Orisa which is in Ifa super structure. Everything is in Ifa.
Let me also remind you that before the west even started using injection to pass drugs (ewe) to the blood stream, the Ifa system of Knowlegde already had what is known as Gbere. Then your western warlords were still drinking blood of each other during that Era.

So the Knowlege goes on and on and yes they always come to Ifa at the end of the day to learn more( You are right at least about that). Same goes to those pastors, imam name it. They always come to ifa at the end of the day.

That is just an example.

chrisbaxtian:



the "ifa is not a religion, but a spiritual system" is a smooth and somewhat slippery way of dodging the simple truth I have put forward to you. I have heard similar arguments from Christians and Muslims alike, who claim they do not practice religion, but a system/way of life/relationship that links them with their creator. there is no power in what you are involved in. that is my position and I stand by it. the whites flocking towards you are just after exoctic things (for tourism, arts and academic knowledge) not that they really dig the orisa stuff you are all about. ifa is just exoctic, that's why the foreigners are interested in it, no need to make a big deal out of it!

Become an initiate of Orisa and devotee of Ifa is tourism right?

The Lucumis and Santerias who adopted Ifa system to form new religion in the Southern America are tourists shey?

Whatever you are smoking is strong.

scully95:



Lol. You are funny again.

What is Power ?
Knowlege is Power.
There is super power in the Ifa Super structure of Knowledge !
This is where you are missing the real deal again.

Ifa is a system of Knowledge ( a way of life, spirituality...) and the first of its kind ever. Let me remind you also of the first ever coding system ever known to Omoeniyan is Ifa 16 digits coding system.

What is similar to your/the western/Eastern Invention of Religion in Ifa spirituality is Orisa which is in Ifa super structure. Everything is in Ifa.
Let me also remind you that before the west even started using injection to pass drugs (ewe) to the blood stream, the Ifa system of Knowlegde already had what is known as Gbere. Then your western warlords were still drinking blood of each other during that Era.

So the Knowlege goes on and on and yes they always come to Ifa at the end of the day to learn more( You are right at least about that). Same goes to those pastors, imam name it. They always come to ifa at the end of the day.

That is just an example.

how come this superior knowledge could not save the old order from the foreign invaders? if you are so knowledgeable/powerful, how come a large mass of your people abandoned IFA and it's "super-structure" for foreign religions like Christianity and Islam? all what you have typed is a glorious hyperbole of the system you practice.

GodFreyinNORSE:


Become an initiate of Orisa and devotee of Ifa is tourism right?

The Lucumis and Santerias who adopted Ifa system to form new religion in the Southern America are tourists shey?

Whatever you are smoking is strong.

the system in south America was formed by black slaves who refused to drop their local deities (despite the failure of the gods to protect their worshippers from slavery and exile) and decided to merge it with the religion the white man practiced. ifa spread to that part of the world because of the vile slave trade.

chrisbaxtian:



the system in south America was formed by black slaves who refused to drop their local deities (despite the failure of the gods to protect their worshippers from slavery and exile) and decided to merge it with the religion the white man practiced. ifa spread to that part of the world because of the vile slave trade.

Ifa is universal. It is Iching to the Chinese, Geomancy to the European and ilm al-raml in Arabic. The system is embedded in nature. Go figure.

For umpteen time, Ẹni yara lógún gbe. The Gods don't join senseless war with human.

The same white were once in history enslaved by blacks.

For your info, the slaves were not captured by the whites. They were rather sold by black men in exchange of valuables then. Though barbaric but it was perpetrated by black against blacks

chrisbaxtian:



how come this superior knowledge could not save the old order from the foreign invaders? if you are so knowledgeable/powerful, how come a large mass of your people abandoned IFA and it's "super-structure" for foreign religions like Christianity and Islam? all what you have typed is a glorious hyperbole of the system you practice.

Via brainwashing, lies, fakenews, corruption, Jihad and Crussade. All these you will find in Foreign ideologies but not in IFa which is the father of all of them. The Truth always win any day ! No matter how long, the Truth always prevail.

Isese Lagba... Agba ti o binu ni omo e Posi. A father that does not get agree will surely have more children arround him. This best define Ifa. Again they did not abandone Ifa. They only accpeted their foreign ideologies into the system and even Yorubanize it. They have Yorubanize the western and eastern ideology. This is what is known as cultural uniformity which already exist in the Totality of Yorubaland ! Which can only be found in Ifa, you will learn this.

Again these arrogant eastern and western ideologies could humble themselves and try to learn (They do this each time they come back to the source as you said too) from these Anterior Cultures, invisiible religion, learn from Ifa and using the ethical values within these cultures, African traditional identity, Culture to suppress, marginalize the ethical values, to arbitrate their conflict with eacth other (often times very artificial conflict for a geo-political struggle of Economic control).

GodFreyinNORSE:


Ifa is universal. It is Iching to the Chinese, Geomancy to the European and ilm al-raml in Arabic. The system is embedded in nature. Go figure.

For umpteen time, Ẹni yara lógún gbe. The Gods don't join senseless war with human.

The same white were once in history enslaved by blacks.


For your info, the slaves were not captured by the whites. They were rather sold by black men in exchange of valuables then. Though barbaric but it was perpetrated by black against blacks

the bolded is hilarious! where, when and how? bwhahahahhaa!!!

by the way, YES!!! the gods were involved! if the gods are/were not involved in war and conquest, then what use are/were they?

scully95:


Via brainwashing, lies, fakenews, Jihad and Crussade. All these you will find in Foreign ideologies but not in IFa which is the father of all of them. The Truth always win any day ! No matter how long, the Truth always prevail.

Isese Lagba... Agba ti o binu ni omo e Posi. A father that does not get agree will surely have more children arround him. This best define Ifa. Again they did not abandone Ifa. They only accpeted their foreign ideologies into the system and even Yorubanize it. They have Yorubanize the western and eastern ideology. This is what is know has cultural uniformity ! Which can only be found in Ifa, you will learn this.

Again these arrogant eastern and western ideologies could humble themselves and try to learn(They do this each time they come back to the source as you said too) from these Anterior Cultures, invisiible religion, learn from Ifa and using the ethical values within these cultures, African traditional identity, Culrure to suppress, marginalize the ethical values, to arbitrate their conflict with eacth other (often tme very artificial conflict for a geo-political struggle of Economic control).

na because power no dey dia jare!

chrisbaxtian:


the bolded is hilarious! where, when and how? bwhahahahhaa!!!

by the way, YES!!! the gods were involved! if the gods are/were not involved in war and conquest, then what use are/were they?

The raiding of European “whites” as slaves by “Africans” was done by various states and Barbary Pirates in what we today call Morocco, Algeria, Libya and Tunisia. Collectively they are called the Barbary States and, yes, they did terrorize European towns by pillaging and seizing people as slaves, men, women and children.

https://technoracism./2014/09/10/the-barbary-pirates-white-slaves-and-racist-agendas/

The record is on wikipedia and also online journals. You can source for it.

The second question depends on what you call God. Your conception is wrong and so is your general worldview. Maybe you think God in the Yoruba spirituality is some kind of mythical beings in other religion. You get it wrong.

But before we get started, what is god?