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| Re: The Hateful Language Of Atheism And Its Possible Effects On Society. by winner01(m): 11:51am On May 04, 2018 |
etrange:I was only giving my observations backed by some honest atheists. I can give more examples of such quotes conceeding that atheists are getting more and more ritualistic. And when you say atheists think Independently, you should be careful of the overgeneralization. I know a few atheists in my family tree as well as outside my family tree, I can tell you that their thoughts are dependent on books they have read, books written by other men. etrange:I agree the standard is too high, maybe you also agree with me. The point of Christianity, of going to churches, of engaging in religious practices is simply to be more and more like Christ. I think this is a good thing. etrange:I want to agree with you, I honestly do. I just find it difficult to understand the quotes below: "The criticism of religion is the prerequisite of all criticism. The abolition of religion as the illusory happiness of the people is the demand for their real happiness. ... The criticism of religion disillusions man, so that he will think, act, and fashion his reality like a man who has discarded his illusions and regained his senses ..."- Karl Marx, A Contribution to the Critique of Hegel’s Philosophy of Right, 1844 "As socialism grows, religion will disappear. Its disappearance must be done by social development, in which education must play a part."- Karl Marx, Interview with Karl Marx, Chicago Tribune, January 5 1879 "We want to sweep away everything that claims to be supernatural and superhuman, and thereby get rid of untruthfulness, for the root of all untruth and Lying is the pretension of the human and the natural to be superhuman and supernatural. For that reason we have once and for all declared war on religion and religious ideas ..."- Friedrich Engels (co- founder of Marxist theory), Review of Thomas Carlyle's Past and Present, 1844 "The Communist Party of the Soviet Union is guided by the conviction that only conscious and deliberate planning of all the social and economic activities of the masses will cause religious prejudices to die out. The Party strives for the complete dissolution of the ties between the exploiting classes and the organizations of religious propaganda, facilitates the real emancipation of the working masses from religious prejudices and organizes the widest possible scientific educational and anti-religious propaganda."- Political Program of the CPSU (Communist Party of the Soviet Union), adopted March 22, 1919 at the Eighth Congress of the Russian Communist Party, section 13 "We must deepen a revolutionary world-outlook, we must fight the religious prejudices in the youth and approach the youth, including those having religious prejudices, with the maximum pedagogical attentiveness of the more educated towards the less educated. We must go to them with the propaganda of atheism, for only this propaganda defines the place of man in the universe and draws out for him a circle of conscious activity here on earth."- Leon Trotsky, The Position of the Republic and the Tasks of Young Workers, 1922 “Scientific communism, in its judgements concerning natural phenomena, is guided by the data of the natural sciences, which are in irreconcilable conflict with all religious imaginings. … In practice, no less than in theory, communism is incompatible with religious faith. … THE TRANSITION FROM SOCIALISM TO COMMUNISM … WILL BRING ABOUT THE NATURAL DEATH OF ALL RELIGION AND ALL SUPERSTITION.”- N.I. Bukharin and E. Preobrazhensky: The ABC of Communism, Chapter 11: Communism and Religion, 1922 “Communist society will bury forever all mysticism, religion, prejudice and superstition and will give a powerful impetus to the development of all-conquering, scientific knowledge. ... One of the most important tasks of the cultural revolution affecting the wide masses, is the task of systematically and unswervingly combating religion-the opium of the people. ... the proletarian State ... carries on anti-religious propaganda with all the means at its command and reconstructs the whole of its educational work, on the basis of scientific materialism.” - The Programme of the Communist International. Comintern Sixth Congress 1929 “It is furthermore imperative to put the propaganda of atheism on solid ground. … It is necessary to produce a book on the church's struggle against science.” - Maxim Gorky (Soviet writer, a founder of the socialist realism literary method and a political activist), Letter from Gorky to Stalin, November 29, 1929, on the organization of antireligious propaganda "We carry on and will continue to carry on propaganda against religious prejudices. ... The Party cannot be neutral towards religion and does conduct anti-religious propaganda against all and every religious prejudice because it stands for science, while religious prejudices run counter to science, because all religion is something opposite to science. ... The Party cannot be neutral towards the bearers of religious prejudices, towards the reactionary clergy who poison the minds of the toiling masses. Have we suppressed the reactionary clergy? Yes, we have. The unfortunate thing is that it has not been completely liquidated. Anti-religious propaganda is a means by which the complete liquidation of the reactionary clergy must be brought about."- Joseph Stalin (the leader of the Soviet Union from the mid-1920s until his death in 1953), Questions & Answers to American Trade Unionists: Stalin's Interview With the First American Trade Union Delegation to Soviet Russia,1927 “Our program of antireligious propaganda consists of the masses not only breaking ties with churches but also overcoming elements of religious consciousness. We should help them free themselves of all traces of religious consciousness, help them cultivate a scientific, materialistic understanding of the world to free them of all elements of religiosity-this is the goal of our program. To separate not only church from state, but also the individual from the church. This program is being fulfilled by propaganda, by organizing our Union of Militant Godless. It is carried out in literature, in public rallies, in our newspapers, magazines, books, brochures, theatres, movies, radio. … Our party program regarding religion shows that freeing the masses from religion is related to how successfully we will implement planning of all facets of economic life in our country. This means, when we are able to organize our economy so that every worker, every peasant will know that the result of his work depends only on his collective or individual efforts and does not depend on any other powers, only then will the masses be free from religion."- Yemelyan Yaroslavsky, Conversation between IAroslavskii and an American delegation headed by Sherwood Eddy, August 2, 1932, concerning antireligious propaganda "A person cannot act correctly, cannot act in an organized manner as a Communist, as a Leninist, if his brain is poisoned by religion. In order to overcome the tremendous difficulties which confront us; in order to remold the world as the working class and the peasantry want it to be; in order to subjugate all the forces of nature and compel them to work for the welfare of mankind; in order to change social relationships from top to bottom; in order to eradicate war between nations, to exterminate poverty from the face of the earth—it is necessary that every person, that every peasant and worker sees things as they are, without the intervention of gods, saints, angels, fiends, goblins, were-wolves, and other spirits, good or evil." – Yemelyan Yaroslavsky (the head of the League of Militant Godless), Religion in the U.S.S.R., 1934 "The overthrow of religious authority and the eradication of superstition are going on everywhere."- Mao Zedong (the founding father of the People's Republic of China, which he governed as Chairman of the Communist Party of China), REPORT ON AN INVESTIGATION OF THE PEASANT MOVEMENT IN HUNAN, 1927 "The world is nothing else but the material world in a process of unlimited development… Dialectical materialism's theory of movement is in opposition first of all with philosophical idealism and with the theological concepts of religion. The fundamental nature of all philosophical idealism and religious theology derives from their denial of the unity and material nature of the world; and in imagining that the movement and development of the world takes place apart from matter, or took place at least in the beginning apart from matter, and is the result of the action of spirit, God, or divine forces ... All of these doctrines which think about movement apart from matter are fundamentally incompatible with dialectical materialism..."- Mao Zedong, DIALECTICAL MATERIALISM, 1938 "We will substitute materialism for [philosophical] idealism and atheism for theism."- Mao Zedong, Examples Of Dialectics, 1959 "Party organisations must direct their most serious attention to the improvement of atheist propaganda. Anti-religious propaganda must be more offensive, combatant, more direct. . ."- Mzhavanadze (at the 20th Congress of the Georgian Communist Party), Zarya vostoka, 26 January 1960. An editorial in Nauka i religiya ("Science and Religion", a monthly Soviet atheist journal) during 1963 spoke of the current programme of communist construction as including: "the complete and final overcoming of religious survivals and the liberation of people's consciousness from prejudices and superstition. Communism will be an atheist society, where the religious mist is finally dispelled, where people are delivered for ever from fantastic religious representations."- Nauka i religiya 6, 1963, p. 2. "In 1964, in accordance with the directive of the TSK KPSS [CENTRAL COMMITTEE OF THE COMMUNIST PARTY OF THE USSR] "Concerning Efforts to Improve the Atheist Education of the Population," a required or elective course entitled "The Fundamentals of Scientific Atheism" was introduced at institutions of higher learning. Specialized departments of scientific atheism were organized at 20 institutions of higher learning. In 1973 a new textbook entitled Scientific Atheism was published. … Different kinds of extracurricular activities such as the involvement of students in research on atheism, atheist discussion clubs and seminars, sociological surveys, atheistic propaganda for the general public, and so forth could play a major role in the atheistic education of students. Atheist clubs, which have been organized at several institutions of higher learning (the Leningrad and Daugavpils Teachers' Institutes, the Tallin Poly technical Institute, and so forth), schools for organizers of alternative rituals, schools for young atheist lecturers, and so forth have become an effective tool for atheist education in a number of cities."- Report by Institute for Scientific Atheism, May 21, 1974, to the Central Committee on increasing effectiveness of atheistic education among youth "The task devolves on us to carry the revolution continuously ahead, to create and strengthen the new world-outlook in the minds and consciousness of people, who should live and think like revolutionaries, who should explain the phenomena of life, develop and settle relations among themselves, between themselves and society, no longer in the old way, no longer according to the idealist, religious, bourgeois outlook, but according to the materialist, atheist, socialist world-outlook."- Enver Hoxha (the Communist leader of Albania from 1944 to 1985, which was the first ever officially declared atheist nation in the world), ON SOME ASPECTS OF THE PROBLEM OF THE ALBANIAN WOMAN, June 15, 1967 "The religious ideology clouds the human mind and paralyses their will for the transformation of nature and society. ... The class struggle for the construction of socialism cannot be separated from the struggle against religion."- Enver Hoxha, Yugoslav "Self-Administration" - Capitalist Theory and Practice, 1978 “All worship of supernatural forces can be called superstition. Religions are superstition … Marxism says, "religion is the opiate that lulls the spirits of people, and is the tool by which the exploiting class controls the people". Marxists all oppose religion in any form. … Among the masses, there are still some ancient practices stemming from superstitions … Solving them only needs patient persuasion and a long period of cultural, scientific, and atheistic education.”- The People's Daily (an official newspaper of the Chinese Communist Party), “Religion and Feudal Superstitions”, (15 March 1979). But hey. Politicians lie all the time right? I'm not ruling out possibilities, I'm just showing evidences. etrange:I get your point. Those threads too contain some evidence for my points. etrange:Atheists are not hate filled and I never said so. I only think many atheists are hate filled and condescending. Religion will always be a driving factor in the personal affairs of majority of humans because that's what it is, Personal. I do not support state religion but freedom of religion. I also don't want gayism to be banned simply because I'm a Christian, I simply want governments to give superior arguments as to why paedophilia, bestiality and necrophillia are outlawed if they are sexual orientations. I'll rather support my sister marring a bible believing Christian simply despite the fact that many good people I know are atheists, this is because if a problem arises, I know where to base my discussions on. I've been irreligious myself at a time and so I know what I mean. Leaders should also not be chosen on religious grounds, but if you've been following Nigerian politics, you can easily tell that politics is the deciding factor for choosing leaders, leaders who neither revere God nor human life, despite their religious claims. etrange:I'll like to know those bible verses especially considering the fact that Jesus rolled with unbelievers and came for unbelievers etrange:I said it twice  I've not observed many other sections. I will. I will also ask you, when/if you were (ever) a Christian, do you think Jesus would have condoned ridicule? |
| Re: The Hateful Language Of Atheism And Its Possible Effects On Society. by budaatum: 2:58pm On May 04, 2018 |
Credit is due to you for your attempt at objectivity. I was about to accuse you of lying about am M.Sc as some of your previous showed no knowledge of anything of the sort. I will apologise for my wrong thoughts when I have sufficient evidence that I am wrong. The truth is that religions are ideologies that are boostered by the divine. If my god is the great big god (and it must be or I'll get a better one!), there is no way you must live without acknowledging that fact and if you don't, you will not only surely die, I will kill you myself! Smart people, those who study Sociology like, and more especially those who do so up to M level should know this (if they truly studied, that is), and should not be the sort who encourage discord. If they do encourage such discord, they can not be working on the behalf of the god called Yahweh or his son Christ the Messiah, and they are definitely not the angels that they ought to be. And in fact may be working for the evildoer who also claims to believe in God too. Can you see how, if the above can be true, I would rather be an atheist (which originally simply meant "a lack of belief in the established gods" ). winner01: |
| Re: The Hateful Language Of Atheism And Its Possible Effects On Society. by winner01(m): 5:16pm On May 04, 2018 |
budaatum:Lol, God blessed me with 2 M.Sc degrees and j see no reason why should I lie on something of the sort? Its not as if I'm looking for a job here neither does anyone here know who I am in real life, well except for a few. Its not also as if the more my M.Sc's, the more money to my account. Certainly, its not as if, the more M.Sc's I have, the more smarter I am. budaatum:lol, whatever this means budaatum:Do you think this thread promotes discord in any way? budaatum:Originally? Can you give me proof? 1 Like |
| Re: The Hateful Language Of Atheism And Its Possible Effects On Society. by budaatum: 10:00pm On May 04, 2018 |
winner01:Its rare, I admit. Considering early atheists never had the chance to parade the fact. But "without god" , is pretty much how they were considered by some, even when what was meant was, "without our specific one supreme god". I have bookmarked this request. Will post when I find some. I notice you might not quite see the meaning of words as I string them, so please be patient with me. I do slow that way. |
| Re: The Hateful Language Of Atheism And Its Possible Effects On Society. by budaatum: 11:07pm On May 04, 2018 |
winner01:Yes I do, as I stated in the first post I posted on it. But its a good thing. As it provoked the opinion that I worthily expressed. |
| Re: The Hateful Language Of Atheism And Its Possible Effects On Society. by winner01(m): 12:06pm On May 06, 2018 |
budaatum:But I provided proof of my submissions and gave scientific proof that anger can have an Influence on human health. I think I tried to show that a condescending attitude is bad. |
| Re: The Hateful Language Of Atheism And Its Possible Effects On Society. by budaatum: 11:03am On May 07, 2018 |
winner01:You gave an opinion at best, your view. There was nothing scientific about what you said, winner. |
| Re: The Hateful Language Of Atheism And Its Possible Effects On Society. by budaatum: 2:39am On May 13, 2018 |
winner01:Historically, any person who did not believe in any deity supported by the state was fair game to accusations of atheism, a capital crime. For political reasons, Socrates in Athens (399 BCE) was accused of being atheos ("refusing to acknowledge the gods recognized by the state"  .Christians in Rome were also considered subversive to the state religion and persecuted as atheists. Thus, charges of atheism, meaning the subversion of religion, were often used similarly to charges of heresy and impiety as a political tool to eliminate enemies. Wiki An Atheista ; one who rejected the gods worshipped by the wider society. ath'-eh-os Adjective without God, knowing and worshipping no God denying the gods, esp. the recognised gods of the state “[R]emember that you were at that time separated from Christ, alienated from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers to the covenants of promise, having no hope and without God [atheoi] in the world” (Eph 2:12). In describing them in their pre- Christian life as atheoi (“without God”) The fools are not limited to those who openly state, “ There is no God”; the y include those who profess belief in God but live as though he does not exist. The Only “Atheists” in the Bible |
| Re: The Hateful Language Of Atheism And Its Possible Effects On Society. by winner01(m): 5:29pm On Jun 09, 2018 |
budaatum:You try 1 Like |
| Re: The Hateful Language Of Atheism And Its Possible Effects On Society. by winner01(m): 8:27am On Jul 23, 2018 |
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