JeromeBlack:
A lot of christians point to the fact that the infamous atheist duo of Mao and Stalin murdered thousands, as evidence that atheism is dangerous. This is not only fallacious but it misses the point.

It fails to address the problem of evil. If there is a god, why did he allow atheists like Mao and Stalin to kill thousands of innocent religious people?

In fact, these two guys went about their genocides like maniacs for a long time before they were stopped. Was God just watching his people die?

Stalin's case is even funnier considering that he attended a seminary. This means that stalin was once a religious man. God let Stalin to move from his holy house into a murderous path.

Another thing to consider is that both Stalin and Mao had religious upbringing. They were theistic during their younger years. One could easily argue that it was religion that warped their minds (even though it would not be an easy proposition to defend).



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JeromeBlack:
A lot of christians point to the fact that the infamous atheist duo of Mao and Stalin murdered thousands, as evidence that atheism is dangerous.
This is not only fallacious but it misses the point.

It fails to address the problem of evil.
If there is a god, why did he allow atheists like Mao and Stalin to kill thousands of innocent religious people?

In fact, these two guys went about their genocides like maniacs for a long time before they were stopped.
Was God just watching his people die?
Stalin's case is even funnier considering that he attended a seminary.
This means that stalin was once a religious man.
God let Stalin to move from his holy house into a murderous path.

Another thing to consider is that both Stalin and Mao had religious upbringing.
They were theistic during their younger years.
One could easily argue that it was religion that warped their minds
(even though it would not be an easy proposition to defend).

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MuttleyLaff:
Pure and genuine religion,
in the sight of God the Father,
means caring for orphans and widows in their distress
and refusing to let the world corrupt you
- James 1:27

Why would and/or did God, allowed Himself, an innocent person, one without sin, be killed?

MuttleyLaff:
Pure and genuine religion,
in the sight of God the Father,
means caring for orphans and widows in their distress
and refusing to let the world corrupt you
- James 1:27

Why would and/or did God, allowed Himself, an innocent person, one without sin, be killed?

dalaman:


The existence of evil clearly shows there is no God that cares. Take for instance the killings of the over 200 people in Plateau state few weeks ago. Some of them were worshipping and praying inside the church while the fulani herdsmen came and killed them. If we are to go by what the Bible says as assume that it is true then there God was there with them and allowed it to happen under his watch because according to the bible, where two or 3 are gathered in my name, I am there with them. Since all of them were gathered in his name and he was there with them but allowed them to be slaughtered. It means he was happy to see that happen because no parent will allow his children to be slaughteredlike that under his watch and Christians tell us that God is their father.

This singular action shows that either the God they worship is wicked aND was happy watching them being slaughtered or he doesn't exist.

I'll go with the latter because God remains an imaginary human idea.

JeromeBlack:



Yes, it all boils down to a simple piece of logic. Either God loves evil and evil people (he seems to give them power as tyrants) or he does not exist.

dalaman:
Ogbeni leave atheist alone and stop arguing with them.
Didn't you tell your man butterfly that you'll heed to his advice?

Lozano:
Stalin and Mao proved nothing and Atheists are absolutely wrong

MuttleyLaff:
I hear you.
This is the last one.
It was one out of my gesture of goodwill responses

dalaman:


The existence of evil clearly shows there is no God that cares. Take for instance the killings of the over 200 people in Plateau state few weeks ago. Some of them were worshipping and praying inside the church while the fulani herdsmen came and killed them. If we are to go by what the Bible says as assume that it is true then there God was there with them and allowed it to happen under his watch because according to the bible, where two or 3 are gathered in my name, I am there with them. Since all of them were gathered in his name and he was there with them but allowed them to be slaughtered. It means he was happy to see that happen because no parent will allow his children to be slaughteredlike that under his watch and Christians tell us that God is their father.

This singular action shows that either the God they worship is wicked aND was happy watching them being slaughtered or he doesn't exist.

I'll go with the latter because God remains an imaginary human idea.

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I JUST WANT TO LET YOU KNOW SOMETHING.. WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT GOD ALWAYS HAS A PLAN FOR EVERYTHING, AND HIS WILL IS THE BEST FOR US ALWAYS.
HIS WAYS ARE MYSTERIOUS, HIS WISDOM IS INFINITE AND YOU CAN NEVER QUESTION THE CREATOR OF THIS WORLD.
LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING..
THAT IT LOOKS LIKE HE DOESN'T INTERVENE OR INTERFERE IS NOT A REASON FOR YOU TO BELIEVE THAT HE DOESN'T EXIST.
MY PASTOR ALWAYS TELLS ME ONE THING.. DESTINY. WHAT WILL BE WILL BE, EXACTLY ACCORDING TO THE WAY GOD HAS DESTINED IT TO BE. WHATEVER GOD DOESN'T APPROVE WILL NEVER BE.
THAT YOU'RE ALIVE THIS MINUTE AND ON THIS PLATFORM WITH ME IS GOD'S PLAN.
THAT YOU'RE EARNING SOME MONEY IS BY HIS GRACE.
THAT 200 PEOPLE DIED IN PLATEAU STATE AND MANY IN BENUE, TARABA, ADAMAWA, BOSTON, ISTANBUL, PARIS.. IS ALL GOD'S PLAN.
FROM THE BEGINNING OF THE WORLD GOD IN HIS INFINITE WISDOM ALREADY LAID DOWN ALL THESE THINGS.. CANCER, MALARIA, POVERTY, LEUKEMIA, HIV, POLIO. EVERYTHING. DON'T THINK THAT THESE THINGS CAME IN BECAUSE OF EVE'S DISOBEDIENCE. NO. GOD WANTED EVE TO EAT THE FRUIT THAT'S WHY HE PUT IT THERE IN THE FIRST PLACE (WHAT EVER HE DOESN'T APPROVE OF WILL NEVER HAPPEN).
SO FORGET ABOUT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING ON THIS THREAD MAN, MANY MORE WILL BE KILLED WHILE WE #PRAYFORNIGERIA #PLATEAU. WHATEVER HAPPENS IN OUR COUNTRY WE HAVE TO ACCEPT IT AS DESTINY DESIGNED FOR US BY OUR OWN GOD BECAUSE WE BELIEVE AND PLACE HIM ABOVE THE GOD THAT HAS BEEN DOING MANY WONDERS IN DEVELOPED COUNTRIES, CALLED SCIENCE.

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I JUST WANT TO LET YOU KNOW SOMETHING.. WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT GOD ALWAYS HAS A PLAN FOR EVERYTHING, AND HIS WILL IS THE BEST FOR US ALWAYS.
HIS WAYS ARE MYSTERIOUS, HIS WISDOM IS INFINITE AND YOU CAN NEVER QUESTION THE CREATOR OF THIS WORLD.
LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING..
THAT IT LOOKS LIKE HE DOESN'T INTERVENE OR INTERFERE IS NOT A REASON FOR YOU TO BELIEVE THAT HE DOESN'T EXIST.
MY PASTOR ALWAYS TELLS ME ONE THING.. DESTINY. WHAT WILL BE WILL BE, EXACTLY ACCORDING TO THE WAY GOD HAS DESTINED IT TO BE. WHATEVER GOD DOESN'T APPROVE WILL NEVER BE.
THAT YOU'RE ALIVE THIS MINUTE AND ON THIS PLATFORM WITH ME IS GOD'S PLAN.
THAT YOU'RE EARNING SOME MONEY IS BY HIS GRACE.
THAT 200 PEOPLE DIED IN PLATEAU STATE AND MANY IN BENUE, TARABA, ADAMAWA, BOSTON, ISTANBUL, PARIS.. IS ALL GOD'S PLAN.
FROM THE BEGINNING OF THE WORLD GOD IN HIS INFINITE WISDOM ALREADY LAID DOWN ALL THESE THINGS.. CANCER, MALARIA, POVERTY, LEUKEMIA, HIV, POLIO. EVERYTHING. DON'T THINK THAT THESE THINGS CAME IN BECAUSE OF EVE'S DISOBEDIENCE. NO. GOD WANTED EVE TO EAT THE FRUIT THAT'S WHY HE PUT IT THERE IN THE FIRST PLACE (WHAT EVER HE DOESN'T APPROVE OF WILL NEVER HAPPEN).
SO FORGET ABOUT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING ON THIS THREAD MAN, MANY MORE WILL BE KILLED WHILE WE #PRAYFORNIGERIA #PLATEAU. WHATEVER HAPPENS IN OUR COUNTRY WE HAVE TO ACCEPT IT AS DESTINY DESIGNED FOR US BY OUR OWN GOD BECAUSE WE BELIEVE AND PLACE HIM ABOVE THE GOD THAT HAS BEEN DOING MANY WONDERS IN DEVELOPED COUNTRIES, CALLED SCIENCE.

dalaman:
This singular action shows that either the God they worship is wicked aND was happy watching them being slaughtered or he doesn't exist.

I'll go with the latter because God remains an imaginary human idea.

Zoharariel:


To make matter worse, the brain-dead zombies went back into that useless burnt tabernacle in Jos to worship a useless god who couldn't prevent his "house of worship" from being attacked in the first place.

Did we not read in the bible (2nd Kings 18 - 25) where Yahweh commanded only one of his Angels to level 185,000 soldiers of Sennacherib - king of Assyria in one night because of King Hezekiah?

Why then is difficult for Yahweh to replicate this feat on the Fulani Herdsmen & Boko Haram killing his people like cockroaches?

My suspicion is that either Yahweh died in the 6th century or all those biblical stories were tales by moonlight.

MuttleyLaff:
Pure and genuine religion,
in the sight of God the Father,
means caring for orphans and widows in their distress
and refusing to let the world corrupt you
- James 1:27

Why would and/or did God, allowed Himself, an innocent person, one without sin, be killed?

Zoharariel:


To make matter worse, the brain-dead zombies went back into that useless burnt tabernacle in Jos to worship a useless god who couldn't prevent his "house of worship" from being attacked in the first place.

Did we not read in the bible (2nd Kings 18 - 25) where Yahweh commanded only one of his Angels to level 185,000 soldiers of Sennacherib - king of Assyria in one night because of King Hezekiah?

Why then is difficult for Yahweh to replicate this feat on the Fulani Herdsmen & Boko Haram killing his people like cockroaches?

My suspicion is that either Yahweh died in the 6th century or all those biblical stories were tales by moonlight.

CuteMadridista:


Yahweh's ways are so mysterious that its perfectly consistent with him not existing

CuteMadridista:


Yahweh's ways are so mysterious that its perfectly consistent with him not existing