sonmvayina:


I am no atheist... God is the personification of totality of the consciousness of the universe.. Not a man or human being or a jew up in the sky..

We are divine beings on a human journey... That is what the igbo omenani teaches, that is what Judaism is all about..
God or Chukwu is responsible for creating and destroying, for light and darkness, good and evil.. Etc.. As it is stated in Isaiah 45 :6-7

The devil(ekwensu) is not an equal opposite of God.. Just like the Christians say.. I find this insulting.

Glycolysis:

I did not ask you for all these you're typed above...
My question is these ;
Where is YOUR evidence that Jesus is a creation from the Romans ,as you had stated earlier on ?

sonmvayina:


It is like asking me the evidence for the creation of spiderman by Stan Lee... Apart from entertainment.. It is not useful or relevant to anything...
But for Christianity, the sole purpose is to deceive and make mockery of God just as Daniel prophesied in Dan7 :25
I posted it sometime ago.. "the forged origin of the new testament" by Tony Bushby.. Google it and read it.. There are references for you to check out..

Glycolysis:

Who is Tony Bushby .... Is he an angel from God ?..... As in,how do you know God spoke through him about what he wrote down as the "truth" ?
Anybody can put down a book just to score points ,...
There are also many books written down to prove that God don't exist ,too.. Will you recommended I go read it & it will serve as an evidence that God doesn't exist

Hence I ask YOU again ;

What is YOUR evidence that Jesus was created by the Romans ?...as in, Jesus was an imaginary work from the Romans as YOU had claimed..

YOUR PERSONAL EVIDENCE SIR.,..,..

Or you just believed because you were told so ?...

sonmvayina:

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Because it has no spiritual benefit of any kind.. And the fact that God is not a man or human being... And also the fact whst God wants is a sincere repentance... No human sacrifice is required or necessary.. And God will remember our sins no more..
Just like when he sent Jonah to nineveh... They repented and he forgave them.. They declared a fast...
And also the fact that there is no evidence of any miracle worker in judea from secular sources...
Lastly the devil is not equal and opposite to God.. He has no power outside the one God gave to him and no authority outside the authority of God.. What ever power he has must be used within the will of God...
So you understand why..[/s].

Emusan:
That's why I said you need a Bible School not online argument.




The only sin you'll bear consequence for is the one YOUR ADAMIC NATURE causes you to commit i.e killing, idolatry, fornication e.t.c



This is where you missed it.
The sin Bible recorded being committed by Adam & Eve is the one that CORRUPTED their NATURE.

This corruption is the one that leads to death and allow Satan's influence to penetrate.

Now, let me break it down for you.

I will use English word of "SIN" as an acronym which means "Satan's Influence over Nature"

Before Adam & Eve sinned, nothing can be traced to their own life at that time like SIN, their NATURE can't die nor opens to Satan's influence.

So the corruption of Adam's Nature and how this corrupted Nature can allow Satan's influence to penetrate is what Bible was talking about in Genesis



The reason you suffer from the consequence is because you're still born with the same CORRUPTED NATURE of Adam & Eve.

I know your point is Jesus' death supposed to vanish sin meanwhile you didn't know that people who live on earth today are not directly born by Jesus.

Now, see how Bible put it;
1. You must be BORN again. Why? Because you need a new nature
2. How will it be possible, by going into one Mother's womb? No! You need to be born of Water & Spirit.
3. That's why, "if any MAN be IN CHRIST, he is a NEW CREATURE..."
NOTE: The word used for MAN here can also refer to NATURE and I intentionally bolden the IN because it expresses the actual phrase used for a baby in the womb



If you don't believe then your conclusion shouldn't be "fairytale"

sonmvayina:

[s]
Its up to you mate... There is no other way I can tell you, you are worshipping a roman idol.. I know you are in too deep... When you are ready... I will be here.. [/s]

Shalom

OLAADEGBU:


Can Atheists Prove God Does Not Exist?

www.theEXITmovie.com

"Is there any amount of evidence that could be provided to you that would make you not believe in the God of the Bible?"

Questions like this one show that atheists have no idea that Christians don't merely believe that God exists. They know God. It's like asking a newly married man, "Is there any evidence that I can give that would make you not believe that your wife exists?"

Source: https://www.facebook.com/official.Ray.Comfort 18 July 2017 ·

OLAADEGBU:


www.livingwaters.com

"[An atheist] wants to be handed some proof and it just doesn't work that way. We are saved by grace of God through our faith in Him and His grace. Then and only then do we receive the proof in our hearts as well as our heads." Glenda Durell

We know that the Creator exists in the same way that we know that a building has a builder. No building ever built itself. That's plain common sense. The painting is also proof of a painter, because paintings don't paint themselves. More common sense.

So every person knows that God exists because of creation (Nature). Creation could not have made itself. That's plain common sense:

"For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse…" ( Romans 1:20).

We are saved by grace though faith, and the "faith" spoken of, isn't an acknowledgement that God exists. We already intuitively know that. It's a "trust" in His promises.

Source: https://www.facebook.com/official.Ray.Comfort 18 September 2014

Pic. Honoré Daumier (1808–1879)

OLAADEGBU:


Why do they then assert that He does not exist?

sonmvayina:


Its up to you mate... There is no other way I can tell you, you are worshipping a roman idol.. I know you are in too deep... When you are ready... I will be here..

Shalom

LordReed:


Can you prove that Allah doesn't exist? Can you prove the Zeus doesn't exist? Can you prove that Sango doesn't exist? Can you prove Shiva doesn't exist?

OLAADEGBU:


Of course they all exists as demons, but guess who created them in the first place?

LordReed:
Can you prove that Allah doesn't exist? Can you prove the Zeus doesn't exist? Can you prove that Sango doesn't exist? Can you prove Shiva doesn't exist?

OLAADEGBU:


Of course they all exists as demons, but guess who created them in the first place?

Emusan:


I always laugh whenever I see Atheists asking question like this...yet they always claim to be the most smart and intelligent person.

Have you seen any Christian saying those gods never exist?

Even a Muslim won't tell you that YAHWEH doesn't exist.

LordReed:


Ah so you believe in multiple gods. Nice to know.

LordReed:


Ahh, ok so you believe there is a central god and a pantheon of gods. You are different from African tradition how again?

OLAADEGBU:


We are talking about the ultimate Creator here, the Infinite, Uncreated Creator.

sonmvayina:


The one that exist only in your head? Because these atheist have not encountered any.. So they need proof of your claim... Don't forget.. The Bible is the claim not the proof..

OLAADEGBU:


Look all around you for the evidence.

TATIME:
Where are the atheists? Let them speak up or remain silent forever. Because a Witness of Jehovah will render all of them speechless (in their own reasoning) with the backing of Jehovah's Holy Spirit and they'll have to know how low the intellect of mortal man to the Highest form of wisdom in the person of Jehovah!

sonmvayina:


Come on, except you are saying the God's claiming to be the creator of the universe is the same being but different name or nomenclature which is my own stance, you have to prove that the one you choose is really the right one.. Maybe you can provide a one on one interview with him.

I am not atheist, don't get me wrong.. My question is two fold.. How is creation a proof of a creator and how did you know the one you choose is the right one..



Can a creation fully comprehend the creator... Well, only if the creation created the creator...

OLAADEGBU:


Look all around you for the evidence.

jokerr:
lmao, u are hilarious. See dis one dat hasn't read, researched, or questioned anything. Stop limiting ur knowledge to dat ur pathetic fairytale u call bible.

OLAADEGBU:


You must first of all answer the question whether you believe that a building is the evidence of a builder or a painter being the evidence of a painter and in this instance the creation being the evidence of a Creator.

If you have common sense which is not common nowadays you will agree with me that a building is the evidence of a builder and if you want to know the name of the builder you simply go to the the town council that keeps the records.

To know who the Uncreated Creator is you need to read His-story. That is where you will find the record of the Infinite, Uncreated Creator who created the universe.