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What Is Ceasars' And What Is Gods ? by CodeTemplar: 7:41am On Dec 16, 2018
Matthew 22:21 Jesus said "Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's; and to God the things that are God's."

What is God's here ?
Re: What Is Ceasars' And What Is Gods ? by Trustme2(m): 8:08am On Dec 16, 2018
God is God
Re: What Is Ceasars' And What Is Gods ? by InansBobo(m): 8:40am On Dec 16, 2018
God's is as prescribed in the bible.
Re: What Is Ceasars' And What Is Gods ? by CodeTemplar: 7:19am On Dec 17, 2018
InansBobo:
God's is as prescribed in the bible.
does God's include money or material items and to who does it go to?
Re: What Is Ceasars' And What Is Gods ? by InansBobo(m): 12:52pm On Dec 17, 2018
CodeTemplar:
does God's include money or material items and to who does it go to?
to the custodian of the house of God.
"Bring ye all the tithe...that they may be meat in my house" that means surely their is a custodian of the house of God who would oversee and take charge of the tithe.

In Acts of the apostles also, the believers sold their stuffs(land) and brought the proceed to the apostles because the apostles were the head

In the Old Testament, the high priests were the custodians of the house of God so were in charge of the things brought to God. My take
Re: What Is Ceasars' And What Is Gods ? by CodeTemplar: 9:10am On May 24, 2020
InansBobo:
to the custodian of the house of God.
"Bring ye all the tithe...that they may be meat in my house" that means surely their is a custodian of the house of God who would oversee and take charge of the tithe.

In Acts of the apostles also, the believers sold their stuffs(land) and brought the proceed to the apostles because the apostles were the head

In the Old Testament, the high priests were the custodians of the house of God so were in charge of the things brought to God. My take
Nice take.
Re: What Is Ceasars' And What Is Gods ? by Janosky: 3:53pm On May 24, 2020
CodeTemplar:
Matthew 22:21 Jesus said "Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's; and to God the things that are God's."

What is God's here ?
God's Laws, Power and Authority Superior to everything else.

Uphold His RIGHTEOUS standard and principles as first thing in your life.
Simple.
Re: What Is Ceasars' And What Is Gods ? by Janosky: 4:37pm On May 24, 2020
InansBobo:
to the custodian of the house of God.
"Bring ye all the tithe...that they may be meat in my house" that means surely their is a custodian of the house of God who would oversee and take charge of the tithe.

In Acts of the apostles also, the believers sold their stuffs(land) and brought the proceed to the apostles because the apostles were the head

In the Old Testament, the high priests were the custodians of the house of God so were in charge of the things brought to God. My take
Followers of Jesus Christ NEVER paid tithe. They only did voluntary contributions, it was NOT 10% demanded by the Mosaic law.
Luke 21:1-4. 2 Cor 9:7.Acts 2:42-47. Heb13:16.

The contributions went to the communal purse under the leadership of the Governing Body (the Elders & Apostles )in Jerusalem.
It was NEVER a One man show run by a Churchpreneur who pocketed the funds as if it's his personal business centre.
Re: What Is Ceasars' And What Is Gods ? by CodeTemplar: 4:49pm On May 24, 2020
Janosky:

God's Laws, Power and Authority Superior to everything else.

Uphold His RIGHTEOUS standard and principles as first thing in your life.
Simple.
The question posed to Jesus in that scripture was clearly about money. Try again.
Re: What Is Ceasars' And What Is Gods ? by jesusjnr2020(m): 2:06pm On Sep 28, 2020
CodeTemplar:
The question posed to Jesus in that scripture was clearly about money. Try again.
It's all about the money mammon worshipper lol!

It's beyond any doubt where your grouse lies.
Re: What Is Ceasars' And What Is Gods ? by Dtruthspeaker: 2:24pm On Sep 28, 2020
CodeTemplar:
Matthew 22:21 Jesus said "Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's; and to God the things that are God's."

What is God's here ?

Not just here but everywhere!

The good question you have asked is "What are the things of God?

In Answer let us count
1) The earth is His and it's fullness thereof! (Have you "given" or surrendered that the earth is His Own? And that the earth being a House Unto us, we are therefore guests (Not Like Hotels), Freely Using and Enjoying All the facilities in His Free Hotel? (Shall Sheraton give you 1year of Free Accommodation, Gymn, Swimming Pool, Garden and Conference Room etc).

Have you given Him His Due thanks (Since you no fit ever pay for His Accommodation) for the free accommodation He has given you, hourly, daily, monthly,and yearly? (Protea Hotels go ever do that one?)

2) The Fullness thereof: is the Fish and Meats not His? Or the Fruits and Foods (Rice, Beans, Cassava, Yam etc) not His? The Mountains, (for selfie)Trees (jangilova), Feilds (Event Garden)Seas and Rivers (Swimming Pool), not His?

3) Even you as a whole, are you not His? (Abi you wan claim say na you make yourself?)

4) Even Ceasar, no be Ceasar get Ceasar!
Re: What Is Ceasars' And What Is Gods ? by Dtruthspeaker: 2:38pm On Sep 28, 2020
CodeTemplar:
does God's include money or material items and to who does it go to?

The Law of God is that goods should be exchanged for goods (whatsoever you do unto others, that shall be done unto you).

But theives and evil men created the fraud of money so that they can cheat and steal and disobey the Law of God by giving a little, to take a lot from others.

Like Jack Sparrow said "Take Everything, Give Nothing!"

So why would this world not be spoilt and people, wrongly suffer?
Re: What Is Ceasars' And What Is Gods ? by Dtruthspeaker: 2:42pm On Sep 28, 2020
CodeTemplar:
The question posed to Jesus in that scripture was clearly about money. Try again.

Remember the question was also a Trap, therefore, it was not really restricted to money alone but also about Power, Obedience to Authorities, and any other thing that can come under it.
Re: What Is Ceasars' And What Is Gods ? by Kobojunkie: 8:47pm On Oct 02, 2020
CodeTemplar:
Matthew 22:21 Jesus said "Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's; and to God the things that are God's."

What is God's here ?
The roman coin belonged to Caesar while the temple Shekel was God's.

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Re: What Is Ceasars' And What Is Gods ? by Kobojunkie: 8:51pm On Oct 02, 2020
CodeTemplar:
does God's include money or material items and to who does it go to?
The Shekel, the currency which God instructed in the Old Covenant for the running of His Temple, was the only acceptable currency in the Temple. Money from the payment of vows, offerings etc.(note NOT TITHES) were eventually used for the upkeep of the temple as prescribed by God in the Old Covenant.
Tithes were prescribed in the form of food item and again, in the book of Numbers, God describes who gets what and how much of it ended up in the store room which eventually ended up going to those who had none.
Re: What Is Ceasars' And What Is Gods ? by CodeTemplar: 8:54pm On Oct 02, 2020
Kobojunkie:
The Shekel, the currency which God instructed in the Old Covenant for the running of His Temple, was the only acceptable currency in the Temple. Money from the payment of vows, offerings etc.(note NOT TITHES) were eventually used for the upkeep of the temple as prescribed by God in the Old Covenant.
Tithes were prescribed in the form of food item and again, in the book of Numbers, God describes who gets what and how much of it ended up in the store room which eventually ended up going to those who had none.
Stop e
reading the scripture like recharge card you won't listen...
Re: What Is Ceasars' And What Is Gods ? by Kobojunkie: 9:09pm On Oct 02, 2020
CodeTemplar:
Stop e
reading the scripture like recharge card you won't listen...
I think you instead ought to start reading the content of that book the same as you would your ABC books so you can better comprehend what is written and maybe stop running around with your head between your legs whenever your so-called men-of-god come up with another one of their "in the name of God" lie/narratives for you to gobble up.
Re: What Is Ceasars' And What Is Gods ? by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:01pm On Oct 02, 2020
CodeTemplar:

The question posed to Jesus in that scripture was clearly about money. Try again.

The highlighted is gross misconception! smiley

Those Pharisees raised the matter to trap Jesus in his own speech! Mark 12:13

The Jewish community have suffered so much in the hands of pagan nations in the past and as at the time Jesus walked the earth it was the Romans who dominated them. These domineering pagans demands head tax form the Jews who considered such as insult on their God who claims to be the Almighty.
When Jesus surface with great powers as a prophet of their God what the Jews were expecting from him is to conquer all the Powerful nations of the earth {Daniel 2:44} and handed over world's power to his Jewish people! Act 1:6

So the issue is about who deserves their loyalty, the Roman Emperor (Caesar) or God?
But the Jews don't want to pay the tax because it undermines their claim as the only nation worshiping the TRUE God.

Jesus just made them understand that both Caesar (Roman Emperor) and their God deserves to be feared, but one could be paid off by simply giving him what isn't of real value to him "money" while the other can't be paid off with mere gold or silver, he (God) demands exclusive devotion! smiley
Re: What Is Ceasars' And What Is Gods ? by Janosky: 10:31pm On Oct 02, 2020
CodeTemplar:
Matthew 22:21 Jesus said "Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's; and to God the things that are God's."

What is God's here ?

New Living Translation Acts 5:29
But Peter and the apostles replied, “We must obey God rather than any human authority.

Matthew 22:21 applies to EVERY Scriptural injunctions which the authority (laws) of men may not permit.
The incidents of Acts 5:17-29 is a classic example.
Re: What Is Ceasars' And What Is Gods ? by CodeTemplar: 10:35pm On Oct 02, 2020
jay jay Otumokpor and his many supporting account. e-clique.
Re: What Is Ceasars' And What Is Gods ? by Janosky: 10:40pm On Oct 02, 2020
CodeTemplar:
The question posed to Jesus in that scripture was clearly about money. Try again.

Matthew 22:16
Then they sent to him some of their disciples and some members of Herod's party. "Teacher," they said, "we know that you tell the truth. You teach the truth about God's will for people, without worrying about what others think, because you pay no attention to anyone's status

The bolded statement in Matthew 22:16 clearly states the Pharisees know the matter is beyond money.
Again consider Matthew 19:3-8
Jesus declared that God's original law was Man & wife (one flesh), not multiple wives or serial divorce (law of Man ) arising from men's hard heartedness.

Bros it goes beyond money.. Acts5:17-29, Ceasar demanded from the disciples what belongs to God.
Acts 5:29, The disciples declared their stand on the matter.
Re: What Is Ceasars' And What Is Gods ? by CodeTemplar: 10:51pm On Oct 02, 2020
Kobojunkie:
The Shekel, the currency which God instructed in the Old Covenant for the running of His Temple, was the only acceptable currency in the Temple. Money from the payment of vows, offerings etc.(note NOT TITHES) were eventually used for the upkeep of the temple as prescribed by God in the Old Covenant.
Tithes were prescribed in the form of food item and again, in the book of Numbers, God describes who gets what and how much of it ended up in the store room which eventually ended up going to those who had none.
What was the name of the currency carrying Caesar's image then? You are irredeemably dumb. So they used two different currency system in one jurisdiction? You are irredeemably stupïd
Re: What Is Ceasars' And What Is Gods ? by CodeTemplar: 10:52pm On Oct 02, 2020
Janosky:


Bros it goes beyond money.. Acts5:17-29, Ceasar demanded from the disciples what belongs to God.
Acts 5:29, The disciples declared their stand on the matter.
Jay jay Otumokpor.
Re: What Is Ceasars' And What Is Gods ? by Kobojunkie: 11:00pm On Oct 02, 2020
CodeTemplar:
What was the name of the currency carrying Caesar's image then? You are irredeemably dumb. So they used two different currency system in one jurisdiction? You are irredeemably stupïd
The name of the currency carrying the image of Caesar matters because? Are you certain I am the dumb one even in this case? undecided undecided

Yes, there were two different currencies in use as far as the temple was concerned. What use do you think the money changers, who were eventually thrown out by Jesus Christ, served while they were there? undecided

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