otipoju:
At first glance through your article, i have some misgivings as to so some of your claims and ill explain

1. Claiming that El Morijah means the "God who protects."

El Morijah means the "God who provides"as revealed in the second verse of a CCC hymn that says

El Morijah ti de lati wa bukun wa
Emi ti sorire baba lo so fun
El Morijah ti de lati wa bukun wa
El Morijah ti wole de.

Another CCC hymn titled El beraca bered Eli says

....El Morijah Oluwa Oba Olupese
Jowo wa pese fun gbogbo aini wa
Ki gbogbo ironu wa le di ayo
Ati ki gbogbo egan wa ledi ogo

This name El Morijah is related to the incident where God provided a ram for Abraham in place of Isaac that was about to be sacrificed in Genesis 22.

2. Claiming Jerimoyama means " the merciful judge"

In 99 per cent of CCC hymns, any strange sounding name is always translated right there within the song itself as a part of the song. God is not the author of confusion. Therefore i can say that

Jerimoyamah is not a name or atttribuite of Jehovah but is the first sentence in CCC hymn 1 that means: The Angels are full of joy in heaven.

Jeremoyama Jeremoyama
Awon angeli kun fayo lorun
Awon Angeli, Awon Angeli
Won forin ayo yin baba lorun

Other examples

Example A.

Hi rah Ja man,
Jah ri bam Hi rah ja man.
Emi mimo
Adaba orun sokale wa.

Example B.

Yago lola mariyanga ri yeh
Yago lola mariyeh.
E foribale fun oba oluwa
Mo foribale fun.

3. Replacing a divine name within a bible passage.

I have never seen in any Celestial Parish where you substitute a divine name in the actual text of a biblical passage with another one of your won choosing.

In CCC, you pronounce designated holy names 3 times before reading certain psalm during services, but not substituite a holy name with another in the text tself like you are suggesting.

Examples from the CCC Order of Service booklet.
Eyiba is for Psalm 51, Jehovah Ramah for Psalm 24,
Eli Yaba for Psalm 20, Jehovah Lass for Psalm 72 and Eli Yah for Psalm 118.

4. Praying to Jimartha.

This name comes up In CCC hymn where Jehovah instructs his prophets to be of good conduct and flee from sinful behaviour so that they can be close to Christ.

In the song a being named Jimartha identifies himself as the bearer of the message being delivered.
This means Jehovah sent Jimartha as messenger to deliver the message to the prophet whom God used to deliver to the church. Most CCC prophets have come to regard Jimartha as the angel assigned by Jehovah to be in charge of prophecy in the CCC . The important thing no matter how powerful and knowledgeable is, an angel cannot be God and cant be worshipped.

Where i am afraid is your recommending that people should go to a dead person's tomb to use Jimartha's name to pray. Any true celestian will seriously frown at that suggestion.

In almost 40 years of being a Celestian. I have never ever heard this anywhere in any parish on any pulpit by any prophet or shepherd.

I dont know where you have gotten your ideas from and I stand to be corrected though. But i want you to take a second look at what you are disseminating and be absolutely sure that you are really following Celestial tenets and doctrines as obtained from the Holy bible which is the final authority in all spiritual matters.

otipoju:
At first glance through your article, i have some misgivings as to so some of your claims and ill explain

1. Claiming that El Morijah means the "God who protects."

El Morijah means the "God who provides "as revealed in the second verse of a CCC hymn that says

El Morijah ti de lati wa bukun wa
Emi ti sorire baba lo so fun mi
El Morijah ti de lati wa bukun wa
El Morijah ti wole de.

Another CCC hymn titled El beraca bered Eli says

....El Morijah Oluwa Oba Olupese
Jowo wa pese fun gbogbo aini wa
Ki gbogbo ironu wa le di ayo
Ati ki gbogbo egan wa ledi ogo

The origin of the name El Morijah is related to the incident where God provided a ram for Abraham in place of Isaac that was about to be sacrificed in Genesis 22.

2. Claiming Jerimoyama means " the merciful judge"

In 99 per cent of CCC hymns, any strange sounding name is always translated right there within the song itself as a part of the song. God is not the author of confusion. Therefore i can say that

Jerimoyamah is not a name or atttribuite of Jehovah but is the first sentence in CCC hymn 1 that means: The Angels are full of joy in heaven.

Jerimoyama Jerimoyama
Awon angeli kun fayo lorun
Awon Angeli, Awon Angeli
Won forin ayo yin baba lorun

Other examples

Example A.

Hi rah Ja man,
Jah ri bam Hi rah ja man.
Emi mimo
Adaba orun sokale wa.

Example B.

Yago lola mariyanga ri yeh
Yago lola mariyeh.
E foribale fun oba oluwa
Mo foribale fun.

3. Replacing a divine name within a bible passage.

I have never seen in any Celestial Parish where you substitute a divine name in the actual text of a biblical passage with another one of your won choosing.

In CCC, you pronounce designated holy names 3 times before reading certain psalm during services, but not substituite a holy name with another in the text tself like you are suggesting.

Examples from the CCC Order of Service booklet.
Eyiba is for Psalm 51, Jehovah Ramah for Psalm 24,
Eli Yaba for Psalm 20, Jehovah Lass for Psalm 72 and Eli Yah for Psalm 118.

4. Praying to Jimartha.

This name comes up In CCC hymn where Jehovah instructs his prophets to be of good conduct and flee from sinful behaviour so that they can be close to Christ.

In the song a being named Jimartha identifies himself/herself as the bearer of the message being delivered through the hymn

This means Jehovah sent Jimartha as a messenger to deliver the message to the prophet whom God used to deliver it to the church. Most CCC prophets have come to regard Jimartha as the angel assigned by Jehovah to be in charge of prophecy in the CCC . The important thing no matter how powerful and knowledgeable is, an angel cannot be God and cant be worshipped.

Where i am afraid is your recommending that people should go to a dead person's tomb to use Jimartha's name to pray. Any true celestian will seriously frown at that suggestion.

In almost 40 years of being a Celestian. I have never ever heard this anywhere in any parish on any pulpit by any prophet or shepherd.

I dont know where you have gotten your ideas from and I stand to be corrected though. But i want you to take a second look at what you are disseminating and be absolutely sure that you are really following Celestial tenets and doctrines as obtained from the Holy bible which is the final authority in all spiritual matters.

lumidee2580:



Do we have any particular scripture that have reference to these things you people are mentioning?

AfonjaScud:


Please leave Celestial things to Celestians. By some funny coincidence, Celestians don't poke their noses into other churches' affairs except when and where they come under attack or criticism, and will also prefer that they be left alone to do their own things as stipulated by the God of celestial.

gbaskiboy:
The man ask relevant question but you dodged it. Since you believe in God and his son Jesus and believe that the Bible is God's word. Whatever Christianity does or beliefs should reflect on the scripture. If you can make scriptural references that would be highly appreciated.

MightySparrow:
Jaw - breaking, demonic, unscriptural names. All these white garment churches with their weirdness.

FxMasterz:


Don't mind them. Can you read what that AfonjaScud said. It claims it smacks of inaccurate knowledge to claim anything without scriptural reference is unchristian. He should tell me the meaning of the word 'unscriptural'. He should also tell me where they got those names from, since those names aren't in the Bible. We'll love to know the source or sources of those weird names.

MightySparrow:
The names of fallen angels working with C&S are different from those of CCC and others.

You will be hearing dreadful names like Elimorijah, Ajagorataji,.,etc.
The Hebrews themselves are afraid of saying such names.

Catholic with Uriel, Barachel, Raphael etc..
JW's wilth Michael David

Christians and their Christianities sha!!!

FxMasterz:


Don't mind them. Can you read what that AfonjaScud said. It claims it smacks of inaccurate knowledge to claim anything without scriptural reference is unchristian. He should tell me the meaning of the word 'unscriptural'. He should also tell me where they got those names from, since those names aren't in the Bible. We'll love to know the source or sources of those weird names.

AntiChristian:


All Christians are supposed to be united in what they believe about Jesus (right?)

[Jesus said,] I pray also for those who will believe in me through their message, that all of them may be one. . . . I have given them the glory that you gave me, that they may be one as we are one—I in them and you in me— so that they may be brought to complete unity. (John 17:20–23)

Paul said:
I appeal to you . . . that all of you agree with one another in what you say and that there be no divisions among you, but that you be perfectly united in mind and thought.(1 Corinthians 1:10)

That’s a nice thought, but has any prayer failed more spectacularly? Christianity is more than just Roman Catholics, Baptists, Methodists, Presbyterian, 7days Adventists, Anglican, Redeem, C&S, Celestial Church of Christ, Christ Embacsy, Synagogue, TREM, Harvesters, Winners, Deeper Life, Apostolic Faith Church, CAC, Lord Chosen, Dunamis, and maybe a few hundreds more—there are now 45,000 denominations, and Christianity is fragmenting at a rate of two new denominations per day.

Has any prayer failed more spectacularly? Jesus said ask and you shall be given Mathew 7:7.

But here Jesus asked but was not given!

HAPPY "YOUR OWN CHURCH BETTER PASS THEIRS" FIGHTING!

FxMasterz:


Yes, all Christians are united. A true Christian is one being discipled by Jesus Christ. There are many wolves in sheep clothing who call themselves Christians and are not. The Lord knows them that are His. The Lord has said, ',By their fruits, ye shall know them.' All things were already prophesied.

You should bother yourself with the many divisions in Islam and the problems of your religion that always push you towards the mods here to pull down threads that make sordid exposures of your religion.

FxMasterz:


Don't mind them. Can you read what that AfonjaScud said. It claims it smacks of inaccurate knowledge to claim anything without scriptural reference is unchristian. He should tell me the meaning of the word 'unscriptural'. He should also tell me where they got those names from, since those names aren't in the Bible. We'll love to know the source or sources of those weird names.

AntiChristian:

Jesus's prayer will never be answered till the world ends!

AntiChristian:
Yeah i agree you are all united! That's why Catholics can attend RCCG and Celestial Church attend Christ Embassy!

You should have mentioned the divisions like i mentioned some of your denominations! You gave over two thousand different Church names and still counting!

The Mosque i pray at home is not the same one i pray at work! And anytime i go out i pray in the nearest mosque! Can you attend C & S or Cele? Catholic or Anglican? Methodist or Baptist? Presbyterian or Lord Chosen?

Sorry o! Deal with the crises here!

Cele no be Christian!
C&S no be Christian!
Catholics no be Christian!
Anglicans no be Christian!
Jehovah Witnesses no be Christians!

Jesus's prayer will never be answered till the world ends!

AfonjaScud:


Where ignorance is bliss, knowledge is lacking and not valued.

AntiChristian:


All Christians are supposed to be united in what they believe about Jesus (right?)

[Jesus said,] I pray also for those who will believe in me through their message, that all of them may be one. . . . I have given them the glory that you gave me, that they may be one as we are one—I in them and you in me— so that they may be brought to complete unity. (John 17:20–23)

Paul said:
I appeal to you . . . that all of you agree with one another in what you say and that there be no divisions among you, but that you be perfectly united in mind and thought.(1 Corinthians 1:10)

That’s a nice thought, but has any prayer failed more spectacularly? Christianity is more than just Roman Catholics, Baptists, Methodists, Presbyterian, 7days Adventists, Anglican, Redeem, C&S, Celestial Church of Christ, Christ Embacsy, Synagogue, TREM, Harvesters, Winners, Deeper Life, Apostolic Faith Church, CAC, Lord Chosen, Dunamis, and maybe a few hundreds more—there are now 45,000 denominations, and Christianity is fragmenting at a rate of two new denominations per day.

Has any prayer failed more spectacularly? Jesus said ask and you shall be given Mathew 7:7.

But here Jesus asked but was not given!

HAPPY "YOUR OWN CHURCH BETTER PASS THEIRS" FIGHTING!

MightySparrow:


When Christians are talking about their Christianities, which one concern an infidel?

2 Corinthians 6:15
[15]And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel?

FxMasterz:


Jesus never prayed for 'Christians' to be united. There was no such word in His days. He prayed only for the unity of His disciples. All disciples are Christians but not all Christians are disciples. His disciples are united because they feed under the same Shepherd. How can you know the difference?

You should find solutions to the divisions among Muslims and the many sordid facts about your religion.

Maximus692:


It has been answered!

Satan only initiate his own agents to gather his type of people (rebellious and lawless) into groups so what confuses unintelligent ones is that Satan's agents are also claiming Christians {2Corinthians 11:14} that's why Jesus said:

"By their fruits you will know them"

Jesus never killed anyone neither did his first century disciples so the fruit of Christianity is LOVE, JOY, PEACE, PATIENCE, GOODNESS, KINDNESS, FAITH, MILDNESS and SELF-CONTROL! Galatians 5:22-23

This is what it takes to do God's will so that a global family of peach loving worshipers may suffice! Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3

So no matter what they claim if they're not WORKING towards this goal then their so called faith is DEAD! James 2:18-26

Jesus' prayer his been answered that's why we now have a global family of peach loving worshipers in the new group name God now calls them: Jehovah's Witnesses! Isaiah 65:15

AntiChristian:


Hope all your families and relatives too are Christians and not infidels or Belial!

AntiChristian:

Answered in and around 1914 to make JW the new world wide Christians!
I sabi una!

AntiChristian:
Which disciples Does that include Saul who became Paul after Jesus was no more on Earth? Which Shephard did Paul feed from? Even Peter wey feed with Jesus 24/7 still deny am three times not to talk of Paul wey no meet Jesus!
So what was the quoted verses about?



This is funny! Sect or no sect. I can still pray in many mosques in Lagos depending on where i am at Salah time!

Can you worship with Catholics, Anglicans, Celestial or Cherubim and Seraphim?

FxMasterz:


Jesus is the One and only Shepherd. The disciples know themselves and are known to the Shepherd.

Have you found solution to the sordid things about your religion for which you always require the help of the mods to help you repress? Have you united the 73 Islamic sects you have around you?

AntiChristian:
Which disciples Does that include Saul who became Paul after Jesus was no more on Earth? Which Shephard did Paul feed from? Even Peter wey feed with Jesus 24/7 still deny am three times not to talk of Paul wey no meet Jesus!
So what was the quoted verses about?



This is funny! Sect or no sect. I can still pray in many mosques in Lagos depending on where i am at Salah time!

Can you worship with Catholics, Anglicans, Celestial or Cherubim and Seraphim?

AntiChristian:


No be wetin i ask you be this na?

FxMasterz:


I worship wherever the disciples are. I don't worship in synagogues of Satan that pretend to be the temples of God.

And mind you, you have no right to tag all those denominations you listed as synagogues of Satan because I never said so.

There are disciples even today. It didn't end with the 12. Get my point please.

AntiChristian:
So which of those Churches have the disciples? Which are Satanic temples?


Na una they talk am among yourselves! You call them non-Christians just like JW call you same!

Yeah! Even those who predicted and failed from election period get temples!

FxMasterz:


Since you're not a member of the body of Christ, you have no part in the matter of true disciples versus temples of Satan. So, don't bother to ask.

You want to change the topic? Prophetic declarations are words of command in prayers. They're not prophesies about the Future. Prophesies about the future always start with "Thus says the Lord," Or the prophet says "This is what the Lord is telling me right now ". Except there are words like these two above, there are no failed prophesies about the last election.

Men of God can pray their wills or declare their desires but God is sovereign. His will and His counsel will stand at the end of the day.

Now, have you found the solution to the many sordid revelations about your religion on this forum, or have you found a way to reunite the 73 Islamic sects?

AntiChristian:


I shouldn't bother to ask but you have been asking us these asinine questions too?
Plank/speck dey your eyes o!

AntiChristian:


I shouldn't bother to ask but you have been asking us these asinine questions too?
Plank/speck dey your eyes o!