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If You Get A Telescope, You Will Immediately Stop Believing The Bible by Nobody: 10:21pm On Feb 21, 2019
People still believe the bible because they can seem to comprehend anything beyond it.

If Christians can get good telescopes and stargaze all nights, the stories of the bible will become so inaccurate because:

1. You won't be seeing heaven in it...
2. You won't be seeing a sun orbiting the earth
3. You won't be seeing God on the throne
4. All you will see are stars, planets and the international space station, nothing more.

You will realize how small and irrelevant the earth is in respect to the size of the universe..
This is the only acceptable reality...

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Re: If You Get A Telescope, You Will Immediately Stop Believing The Bible by Abasey(m): 11:36pm On Feb 21, 2019
nwabekeyi:
People still believe the bible because they can seem to comprehend anything beyond it.

If Christians can get good telescopes and stargaze all nights, the stories of the bible will become so inaccurate because:

1. You won't be seeing heaven in it...
2. You won't be seeing a sun orbiting the earth
3. You won't be seeing God on the throne
4. All you will see are stars, planets and the international space station, nothing more.

You will realize how small and irrelevant the earth is in respect to the size of the universe..
This is the only acceptable reality...

Your reality is empty and baseless just as it is. Thought you had something intriguing to write about that will probably get one to think perhaps for the next 1 minute but unfortunately there was nothing inside. Maybe a 'telescope' and 'stargaze' you invent will do.

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Re: If You Get A Telescope, You Will Immediately Stop Believing The Bible by zoedew: 1:13am On Feb 22, 2019
Indeed true that the fool says in his heart that God does not exist! For we walk not by sight but by faith! Telescopes offer you a view by sight but what you deny cannot be appreciated by physical sight no matter how magnified!

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Re: If You Get A Telescope, You Will Immediately Stop Believing The Bible by Originakalokalo(m): 1:31am On Feb 22, 2019
A telescope is useless in that it cannot see into the end of the universe.

It is also useless in that it cannot see thoughts.

Science has not been able to stop deaths.

Even with the best doctors and equipment, people still die.

Science is limited to the physical, even the physical has not been fully conquered yet.

We have Cancer, Ebola, HIV, Sickle cell, Diabetes, High blood pressure, Organ failures, etc.

These have not been conquered and you are talking about using the same science to SEE THE SPIRITUAL

can you imagine this?

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Re: If You Get A Telescope, You Will Immediately Stop Believing The Bible by QnVee: 4:01am On Feb 22, 2019
It be so awe inspiring to look through a telescope to see God's creations. He created it all!

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Re: If You Get A Telescope, You Will Immediately Stop Believing The Bible by Nobody: 6:22am On Feb 22, 2019
Abasey:


Your reality is empty and baseless just as it is. Thought you had something intriguing to write about that will probably get one to think perhaps for the next 1 minute but unfortunately there was nothing inside. Maybe a 'telescope' and 'stargaze' you invent will do.
Why are you bitter?

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Re: If You Get A Telescope, You Will Immediately Stop Believing The Bible by Nobody: 6:23am On Feb 22, 2019
QnVee:
It be so awe inspiring to look through a telescope to see God's creations. He created it all!
That's like adding to the bible, the bible didn't account for galaxies, planets, nebula etc

Didn't the bible say you cannot add to subtract from it?
Re: If You Get A Telescope, You Will Immediately Stop Believing The Bible by Nobody: 6:27am On Feb 22, 2019
Originakalokalo:


A telescope is useless in that it cannot see into the end of the universe.

It is also useless in that it cannot see thoughts.

Science has not been able to stop deaths.

Even with the best doctors and equipment, people still die.

Science is limited to the physical, even the physical has not been fully conquered yet.

We have Ebola, HIV, Sickle cell, Diabetes, High blood pressure, Organ failures, etc.

These have not been conquered and you are talking about using the same science to SEE THE SPIRITUAL

can you imagine this?
telescope is more detailed than bible, the bible couldn't account for anything beyond the earth.

Does that make the bible more useless?

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Re: If You Get A Telescope, You Will Immediately Stop Believing The Bible by LastDays777: 8:02am On Feb 22, 2019
nwabekeyi:
People still believe the bible because they can seem to comprehend anything beyond it.

If Christians can get good telescopes and stargaze all nights, the stories of the bible will become so inaccurate because:

1. You won't be seeing heaven in it...
2. You won't be seeing a sun orbiting the earth
3. You won't be seeing God on the throne
4. All you will see are stars, planets and the international space station, nothing more.

You will realize how small and irrelevant the earth is in respect to the size of the universe..
This is the only acceptable reality...

My brother the things you do not see are more real than things you see with your naked eyes.

You are comparing the physical with the spiritual when you say you do not see heaven.

They are two different realms. When you understand this then you will understand why you can't see God's throne with your naked eyes brother.

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Re: If You Get A Telescope, You Will Immediately Stop Believing The Bible by Nobody: 8:45am On Feb 22, 2019
LastDays777:


My brother the things you do not see are more real than things you see with your naked eyes.

You are comparing the physical with the spiritual when you say you do not see heaven.

They are two different realms. When you understand this then you will understand why you can't see God's throne with your naked eyes brother.
The only thing you can't see with your naked eyes can be seen under suitable magnifiers like telescopes and microscopes.

You can also feel them with appropriate equipments

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Re: If You Get A Telescope, You Will Immediately Stop Believing The Bible by rekinomtla(m): 9:13am On Feb 22, 2019
The greatest scientist of all time did this and concluded atheism was senseless. grin

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Re: If You Get A Telescope, You Will Immediately Stop Believing The Bible by Originakalokalo(m): 10:00am On Feb 22, 2019
An all-out demonic attack on the word of God. If your faith in the word of God is taken away,

Everything is taken away from you. You become defeated.

The Bible says that we overcome the world with our faith....

I believe his word. All my being and life are centred around it.

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Re: If You Get A Telescope, You Will Immediately Stop Believing The Bible by oaroloye(m): 11:05am On Feb 22, 2019
MISHIGAS!

nwabekeyi:
People still believe the bible because they can seem to comprehend anything beyond it.

If Christians can get good telescopes and stargaze all nights, the stories of the bible will become so inaccurate because:

MANY ATHEIST-CHRISTIAN CONVERSION TESTIMONIES BEGIN WITH THE SUPPOSED CONVERT TELLING HOW THEY SET OUT TO DEBUNK THE BIBLE, AND INCURRED IRREERSIBLE BRAIN-DAMAGE, INSTEAD.

I say "BRAIN-DAMAGE," because these people NEVER attain TRUE CHRISTIANITY, but fall prey to a FALSE GOSPEL.

An ATHEIST can NEVER become a CHRISTIAN, unless they CONVERT at least DOUBLE the number of Believers they previously destroyed.

They may be happy, and feel that they are going to Heaven, and preach a lot, but it's just a DELUSION on their part: THEY ARE NOT SAVED, UNTIL THEY FIX WHAT THEY BROKE.

Therefore, Professor RICHARD DAWKINS can NEVER be Saved. Lord BERTRAND RUSSELL could never be Saved. If Bishop Doctor ALBERTO RIVERA were Saved, no POISONER could have ever taken him out.

He did HORRIBLE THINGS as a ROMAN CATHOLIC. The damage was never undone. He put people IMPRISONED for being PROTESTANTS in Spain. He destroyed a Protestant Bible School and three Pastors in Venezuela.

He only "blew" because he found that ROMAN CATHOLIC CARDINALS ran Freemasonry. That came as an ENORMOUS SURPRISE to him? "Unacceptable," after all the Organizations HE had infiltrated? He said that he found that out at a SATANIC BLACK MASS!

[See: ALBERTO, by Jack T. Chick.]

PAUL was an example of someone who opposed THE ONE TRUE GOSPEL, and then converted to a FALSE GOSPEL.

THOMAS PAINE wrote THE AGE OF REASON, and repented ON HIS DEATHBED, begging for JESUS to come save him.

ANTON SZADOR LaVEY, High Priest of THE CHURCH OF SATAN, repented ON HIS DEATHBED, and BEGGED JESUS to FORGIVE HIM.

That (*Bleep!*)it doesn't work!

It was a ROMAN CATHOLIC DOCTRINE to get control of families and supporters of stubborn rebels.

BILLY GRAHAM is consistent with someone who became a Christian for some other reason than that GOD REVEALED TO HIM that YESHUA IS THE HaMISHIACH and SON OF GOD.

KENT HOVIND is consistent with someone who believed THE BIBLE was FALSE because of EVOLUTION, and then abandoned EVOLUTION, when he found how STUPID It is, and went back to THE BIBLE, and tried to show that he believed The Bible the whole time.

What he believes in is NOT THE TRUE GOSPEL: he is an EVANGELICAL. He published a video allegedly proving that Lord Yeshua was NOT BLACK.

One day, you will want to come to Lord Yeshua to be Saved, and HE WILL BANG HIS DOOR ON YOU.

I would say: "REPENT NOW,[/i] INSTEAD! but I am sure it would be a waste of time.

You are so ignorant, you cannot be intelligent enough to receive The Gospel.

nwabekeyi:
People still believe the bible because they can seem to comprehend anything beyond it.

If Christians can get good telescopes and stargaze all nights, the stories of the bible will become so inaccurate because:

1. You won't be seeing heaven in it...



. GENESIS 11:1-9.

AND the whole Earth
was of one language,
and of one speech.
2. And it came to pass,
as they journeyed from the East,
that they found a plain in the land of Shinar;
and they dwelt there.
3. And they said one to another,

"Go to, let us make brick,
and burn them thoroughly. "

And they had brick for stone,
and slime had they for morter.
4. And they said,

"Go to,
let us build us a city and a tower,
whose top may reach unto Heaven;
and let us make us a Name,
lest we be scattered abroad
upon the Face of the whole Earth. "

5. And The LORD came down to see the City and the Tower,
which the Children of Men builded.
6. And The LORD Said,

"Behold, the people is one,
and they have all one language;
and this they begin to do:
and now nothing will be
restrained from them,
which they have imagined to do.
7. "Go to, let us go down,
and there confound their language,
that they may not understand
one another's speech. "

8. So The LORD scattered them
abroad from thence
upon the Face of all the Earth:
and they left off to build the City.
9. Therefore is the name of it called Babel;
because The LORD did there
confound the language of all the Earth:
and from thence did The LORD
scatter them abroad
upon the Face of all the Earth.

THE BIBLE CONFLATES THE SKY WITH THE SEVEN REALMS CALLED "HEAVEN."

The Ancients didn't need to know the distinction.

Therefore it is implied to the shallow-minded that Heaven was believed to be Astronomically close so that one could enter it by building a skyscraper.

I'm from IDANRE, and know that as the Ancients would have known that as you cannot walk into Heaven just by climbing a mountain, so you cannot enter Heaven, just by climbing a skyscraper.

The Ancients needed a building tall enough to reach the CLOUD-COVER. Then they could use COMMUTATIVE SORCERY (i.e. SIMILARITY=IDENTITY) to create a PORTAL between the CLOUDS of Earth and the Clouds of HEAVEN.

[See: THE EAGLE'S GIFT, by Carlos Castaneda.
THE FIRE FROM WITHIN, by Carlos Castaneda.
THE WAY OF THE SHAMAN, by Michael Harner.]

NOBODY BELIEVED THAT YOU COULD SEE INTO HEAVEN, SIMPLY BY LOOKING INTO THE SKY!

They believed that GOD HAD TO OPEN WINDOWS for you to see into Heaven.

. 2nd KINGS 7:2.

2.Then a lord on whose hand
the king leaned answered
the Man of God, and said,

"Behold, if The LORD
would make Windows in Heaven,
might this thing be?"

And he said,

"Behold, thou shalt
see it with thine eyes,
but shalt not eat thereof."

WHAT MADE YOU DECIDE THAT HEAVEN IS NOT ON ANOTHER PLANET IN SPACE?

KENNETH ERWIN HAGIN had a vision experience in which "JESUS" came to him in a tent meeting, and called him up to Heaven, while his body was still praying on Earth.

They walked in the sky, and passed by clouds, and through clouds. They left the atmosphere, and walked through the STARS.

He looked back, and said the stars looked like the lights of a town seen at night, from a hilltop.

Then they came to "Heaven," and he saw God on His Throne, surrounded by the Four Angels, surmounted by The Rainbow.

"JESUS" had him kneel, and gave him a SPECIAL HEALING POWER that he said would ONLY Heal those who had HEARD HIS TESTIMONY OF SEEING JESUS, AND GOING TO HEAVEN WITH HIM.

Years later, he had the experience of traveling by airplane for the first time, and looking out of the window, exclaimed,

"This is just like when I went to Heaven with Jesus!"

You cannot make this sort of thing up.

[See: I BELIEVE IN VISIONS, by Kenneth E. Hagin.]

nwabekeyi:


2. You won't be seeing a sun orbiting the earth


Actually, that is EXACTLY what you will see!

It all depends on how you choose to interpret the data.


nwabekeyi:
3. You won't be seeing God on the throne


. ACTS 7:51-60.

51. "Ye stiffnecked
and uncircumcised in heart
and ears, ye do always resist
The Holy Ghost:
as your fathers did,
so do ye.
52. "Which of the Prophets
have not your fathers persecuted?
And they have slain them
which shewed before
of The Coming of the Just One;
of whom ye have been now
the betrayers and murderers:
53 "Who have received
The Law by
the disposition of Angels,
and have not kept It."

54. When they heard
these things,
they were cut to the heart,
and they gnashed on him
with their teeth.
55. But he,
being full of The Holy Ghost,
looked up stedfastly into Heaven,
and saw The Glory of God,
and Jesus standing
on the Right Hand of God,
56. And said,

"Behold, I see
the Heavens opened,
and The Son of Man
standing on the right hand
of God."

57. Then they cried out
with a loud voice,
and stopped their ears,
and ran upon him
with one accord,
58. And cast him out of the city,
and stoned him:
and the witnesses laid down
their clothes
at a young man's feet,
whose name was Saul.
59. And they stoned Stephen,
calling upon (God),
and saying,

"Lord Jesus, receive my spirit."

60. And he kneeled down,
and cried with a loud voice,

"Lord, lay not this Sin
to their charge."

And when he had said this,
he fell asleep.

LET'S USE OUR COMMONSENSE, HERE- SURELY YOU DON'T THINK STEPHEN SAW INTO HEAVEN BECAUSE OF HIS EYESIGHT, DO YOU?

Obviously, no one else saw ANYTHING.

If they had *seen* anything at all, it would have arrested them- but they were nothing but a pack of UNRIGHTEOUS KILLERS- so they didn't get to *see* anything.

nwabekeyi:

4. All you will see are stars, planets and the international space station, nothing more.


[b]THERE IS SOMETHING UP IN THE SKY, BUT IT ISN'T A MANNED SPACE STATION.


That thing is a LIE.



Astronauts refuse to swear that they walked on the Moon.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1S0oObHT0c

Neil Armstrong refuses to swear that he walked on the Moon.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XgeLscTavAk

Apollo 17's EUGENE CERNAN swears on The Bible.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Djbjx89rLU

NASA INSIDER EXPOSES THE FLAT EARTH! by Matthew Boylan.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fj8xOBoDznc

NASA'S FAKE BALL EARTH VERSUS THE REAL EARTH, by Eric DuBay.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHwfVn4xZFY

THE INTERNATIONAL FAKESTATION HOAX!

THE INTERNATIONAL SPACE STATION DOES NOT EXIST, by Eric DuBay.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5e-RnKAN9qY

MARS ROVER HOAX.

CURIOSITY IS IN GREENLAND.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07P62erIczY

MARS ENVIRONMENT ON DEVON ISLAND.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQKnUJTQicA

ALAN BEAN accidentally admits Apollo never reached the Van Allen Belts!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bbPzX-dfV4

NASA Engineer accidentally admits they cannot get through the Van Allen Belts!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4O5dPsu66Kw


nwabekeyi:


You will realize how small and irrelevant the earth is in respect to the size of the universe..
This is the only acceptable reality...


Earth is not small and irrelevant, as the Oyinbos have been trying to tell us.

THE EARTH IS BIGGER THAN THE SUN.

The Sun and Moon orbit on similar paths and may be the same size. The Stars are SMALL, and the GALAXIES are MICROSCOPIC.

The Earth is STATIONARY and HOLLOW: we live on the inner surface of a CONCAVE SPHERE. The Sun, Moon, and Stars are INSIDE the 10,000 miles wide Sphere that is the Earth- ACCORDING TO THE ALTERNATIVE INTERPRETATION OF DATA, CALLED ZETETIC ASTRONOMY.

This was propounded by a CHRISTIAN CULTIST named CYRUS TEED about the early 20the Century.

In 1993, an innocent Pastor appeared to be reviving interest in his Astronomical Findings, and was assassinated by the Government, along with about 70 of his followers- none of whom may have known what was going on.

STEVEN CHRISTOPHER'S CONCAVE EARTH COMPILATION. (7 hours 51 mins!)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdXYMhN5YFM

DYSON SPHERE.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50IoG2qi6E0

YOU DO NOT OWN A TELESCOPE OF ANY SIZE.

What cause have you for arrogance?

There is an excellent range of telescopes probably $500 upward. What they find in the sky is amazingly different than what NASA claims to have found.

NASSA is the Hebrew word for DECEPTION.

. JEREMIAH 4:10.

10. Then said I,

"Ah, Lord GOD!
Surely thou hast
greatly deceived this people
and Jerusalem,
saying,

'YE SHALL HAVE PEACE;'

whereas the sword reacheth
unto the soul."

IT IS PRESUMPTUOUS TO THINK THAT YOU KNOW SOMETHING, JUST BECAUSE OYINBOS TAUGHT IT TO YOU!

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Re: If You Get A Telescope, You Will Immediately Stop Believing The Bible by EMILO2STAY(m): 12:01am On Oct 24, 2019
nwabekeyi:
People still believe the bible because they can seem to comprehend anything beyond it.

If Christians can get good telescopes and stargaze all nights, the stories of the bible will become so inaccurate because:

1. You won't be seeing heaven in it...
2. You won't be seeing a sun orbiting the earth
3. You won't be seeing God on the throne
4. All you will see are stars, planets and the international space station, nothing more.

You will realize how small and irrelevant the earth is in respect to the size of the universe..
This is the only acceptable reality...
if you get a telescope you will see the majestic handy work of God. And you will realize the lies you have been told about planets when see that mercury, venus, Jupiter and the rest are all stars.

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Re: If You Get A Telescope, You Will Immediately Stop Believing The Bible by Nobody: 10:14am On Nov 01, 2019
The day I stopped believing the Bible and idea of God was the day I read that our Sun is just one of the trillions of stars in the Sky at Night, the age of our Sun and how the Systems.
I thought the Earth is just hanging on Space for thousands of years and God was sitting behind watching it,

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Re: If You Get A Telescope, You Will Immediately Stop Believing The Bible by Nobody: 10:18am On Nov 01, 2019
EMILO2STAY:
[s]if you get a telescope you will see the majestic handy work of God. And you will realize the lies you have been told about planets when see that mercury, venus, Jupiter and the rest are all stars. [/s]
Re: If You Get A Telescope, You Will Immediately Stop Believing The Bible by EMILO2STAY(m): 5:20pm On Nov 01, 2019
[quote author=Isinweke post=83648637][/quote] you are being unreasonable. If you have any rebutal to prove your point then bring it on stop acting silly.

Atheism only makes you cowardish, you disbelieve in God only to believe in theories which has never been proven. You should be sorry for your self.

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Re: If You Get A Telescope, You Will Immediately Stop Believing The Bible by tartar9(m): 5:28pm On Nov 01, 2019
You will see how absurd it is for the stars to fall on Earth.

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Re: If You Get A Telescope, You Will Immediately Stop Believing The Bible by Nobody: 5:30pm On Nov 01, 2019
EMILO2STAY:
you are being unreasonable. If you have any rebutal to prove your point then bring it on stop acting silly.

Atheism only makes you cowardish, you disbelieve in God only to believe in theories which has never been proven. You should be sorry for your self.


I'm not an atheist, I agree with theories.
Re: If You Get A Telescope, You Will Immediately Stop Believing The Bible by EMILO2STAY(m): 8:44pm On Nov 01, 2019
Isinweke:


I'm not an atheist, I agree with theories.

your words here prove your an atheist ,

If you choose to believe in theories rather than common sense based on facts and evidence given, then continue it is not my business.

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Re: If You Get A Telescope, You Will Immediately Stop Believing The Bible by Roon9(m): 11:15pm On Nov 01, 2019
nwabekeyi:
That's like adding to the bible, the bible didn't account for galaxies, planets, nebula etc

Didn't the bible say you cannot add to subtract from it?

In the beginning God created the Heavens and the Earth. Emphasis on Heavens sir

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Re: If You Get A Telescope, You Will Immediately Stop Believing The Bible by oaroloye(m): 8:16am On Nov 02, 2019
MISHIGAS!

nwabekeyi:
People still believe the bible because they can seem to comprehend anything beyond it.

If Christians can get good telescopes and stargaze all nights, the stories of the bible will become so inaccurate because:

1. You won't be seeing heaven in it...
2. You won't be seeing a sun orbiting the earth
3. You won't be seeing God on the throne
4. All you will see are stars, planets and the international space station, nothing more.

You will realize how small and irrelevant the earth is in respect to the size of the universe..
This is the only acceptable reality...

Oyinbo Education teaches the arrogant to be ignorant, and the proud to be stupid.

(1) WHEN THE BIBLE REPORTED PROPHETS SEEING INTO HEAVEN, WHERE DID YOU READ THAT THEY USED "TELESCOPES?"

The Ancient Prophets had at least two of the Ten Fundamental Powers:

. THE TEN TALENTS OF POWER. (Matt. 25.)

1. TOTAL RECALL.
2. EXTRASENSORY PERCEPTION.
3. TELEKINESIS.
4. TELEPORTATION.
5. TRANSLATION.
6-10. EVERLASTING LIFE.


The Oyinbos, who taught you "Telescope," cannot teach you THE TEN TALENTS, because they have spent hundreds of years murdering people who exhibited these Powers in their Native Lands.

Not satisfied with that, they even went into foreign lands, to murder the Spiritual people there. The Oyinbos are the most Spiritually ignorant of all people in the World.

How are you even an African, when you don't know this?

WHICH BIBLE STORIES OF WHICH VERSION OF THE BIBLE DID YOU READ, TO COME UP WITH SUCH STUPID CONCLUSIONS?

YOU DON'T NEED A TELESCOPE TO SEE FOR YOURSELF THAT THE IDEA OF THE SUN BEING 93 MILLION MILES AWAY IS A LIE!

In any event, there is no logical way to prove whether the Earth orbits the Sun, or the Sun orbits the Earth, by using a Telescope.

In order to determine the movements of the so-called "Heavenly Bodies," you need multiple accurate observations, involving scaled measurements, coupled with advanced knowledge of Geometry and Calculus.

Even then, your findings can only be interpreted: they cannot prove whether it is the Sun orbiting the Earth, or vice-versa. Oyinbo Philosophy depends on a Principle called "OCAAMS RAZOR: "the simplest answer is the truth."

The Heliocentric Model is the simplest explanation of the motion of the Sun and Planets. The simplest "Scientific" explanation of the Earth is that it is a Planet, inclined 23.5° on it's axis, orbiting the Sun, which is 840,000 miles in diameter, at a distance of 93 million miles.

In order to make this Theory fit, they have to disregard facts that disprove it.

[i.] A 23.5° inclination does not account for the seasons (which are not so pronounced here, but in the Northern Hemisphere, their weather has insane differences throughout the year, which totally explains their mentality)!

[ii] There is no provable Coriolis Effect.

[iii] When the Sun shines through clouds, the Ray's converge at a point inconsistent with a 93 million miles distance for the Sun.

[iv] All of the "Blue Marble" Space pictures of the Earth are faked.

There is no such thing as a Satellite or Spaceship snapping a photo of the Earth, like you would shoot a passport or snapshot. All of these images are assembled in a photo lab- and some have been proven to be deliberate forgeries, because they made stupid mistakes. For instance, the same cloud formations were pasted into multiple locations on some fake Earth photos, another time, the photoshopper spelled out an obscene message: writing "SEX" in clouds. In early supposed video of the Earth from the "International Fake Station," they forgot that the clouds must move, too! Afterwards, this discrepancy was eliminated, and cloud formations are seen to move with time, as the winds are supposed to be blowing them.

If the Earth were a simple planet, as we are taught in Oyinbo Schools, none of this fakery would be necessary.

(3) IF GOD ON HIS THRONE WERE ALWAYS VISIBLE FROM THIS UNIVERSE, HOW WOULD YOU KNOW WHAT THEY WERE, WHEN YOU SAW THEM?

The Prophets who saw God did so by EXTRASENSORY PERCEPTION. This is not exercised through the eyeballs. It is a [i[Spiritual [/i] function.

If God were visible in this Universe, He would have to be above and beyond His Creation. His manifested body is depicted in Scripture as being of Humanoid dimensions. "He measured out The Heavens with a [i]nine-inch span,"[/b] the literal translation says.

It was only recently that NASA claims to have been able to see "Exo-Planets," a few light-years away. (All fake, of course!) How would you be able to see and identify GOD at such distances?

(4)YOU CANNOT SEE THE INTERNATIONAL FAKESTATION WITH A TELESCOPE: STOP DECEIVING YOURSELF!

You can, at best, only see something that THEY CLAIM is the International Space Station. It is alleged that some powerful telescopes can actually make out it's shape.

All of the videos allegedly shot on the ISS are FAKE. In some, they make ridiculous mistakes, because they have to shoot live, because their oversights must not permit them to do otherwise.

Therefore they have been caught:

[i.] AN "ASTRO-NOT" NEARLY DROWNED IN HIS "FAKES-SUIT" WHEN IT SPRANG A LEAK.

This was proof-positive that their "SpaceWalks" were not shot in Space, but in a SWIMMING-POOL somewhere.

NASA gave up trying to explain the Water away, and said that they "didn't know" where the Water came from.

If they had to confess that their SpaceWalks were faked, they would be accountable for billions of dollars in funds that were not used to develop working Space Vehicles, but something else. Heads might literally roll for this.

[ii] AIR-BUBBLES HAVE BEEN SEEN CROSSING THE SCREENS, DURING SOME "FAKEWALK" MISSIONS.

This is irrefutable proof that the video was shot in a swimming pool, and not Outer Space.

It is alleged that all Oyinbo SpaceFarer nations' videos eventually show such errors. Including Soviet Union and Chinese videos. I have never seen any Russian Space videos of any kind, but I have seen a clip of a Chinese SpaceWalk Video, which had an air bubble cross the screen.

[iii] INTERNATIONAL FAKESTATION ASTRO-NOTS HAVE BEEN CAUGHT USING HOLLYWOOD MOVIE SPECIAL EFFECTS WIRE HARNESSES TO FAKE ZERO-GRAVITY FLOATATION.

Other shots in the Past have suggested that they used high-altitude jetplane flight to fake Zero-Gravity.

I am particularly fond of a hilarious video, where the Astronot pretends to be manipulating an object floating before him- but they failed to dub it in.

Alleged glitches in dubbing channels have been claimed to momentarily reveal that the Astronots were in a Studio, using Green-Screen backgrounds, against which the FakeStation interior was dubbed in.

I have seen a couple of those clips, but, personally-speaking, they are not so convincing as the others.

[5]CIVILIAN PHOTOS OF THE STARS AND PLANETS ARE VERY DIFFERENT FROM THE IMAGES RELEASED BY THE OYINBO GOVERNMENT TOOLS!

I grew up believing that there were CANALS on MARS.

A respected American Astronomer, PERCIVAL LOWELL, drew up intricate maps depicting Canals he said that he saw on Mars. He was not the first to do so- but he was the first to claim that they were proof of intelligent life on Mars-.

[See: MARS, by Percival Lowell (1895).
FIRST PHOTOGRAPHS OF THE CANALS OF MARS, Percival Lowell, (1906).
MARS AND ITS CANALS, by Percival Lowell (1906).
MARS AS THE ABODE OF LIFE, by Percival Lowell (1908).]

He had a 24-inch/61cm refracting telescope at his disposal. It cost a fortune to build. No one with lesser resources could challenge his alleged findings.

Which was surely taken as evidence that The Bible could all be a lie.

This idea was taken seriously by the Oyinbos.

They sponsored media brainwashing to promote the idea.

[See: WAR OF THE WORLDS, by H.G. WELLS (1898).
JOHN CARTER OF MARS, by Edgar Rice Burroughs.
THE GODS OF MARS, by Edgar Rice Burroughs (1918).
RED PLANET, by Robert A. Heinlein (1949)
THE MARTIAN CHRONICLES, by Ray Bradbury (1950).
Amazing Adventures featuring KILLRAVEN: Warrior of the Worlds, by Neal Adams, Roy Thomas, and Gerry Conway (1973-1976).
CAPTAIN SCARLET AND THE MYSTERONS, by Gerry and Syvia Anderson, (1967-1968).]

canals figure prominently in Red Planetby Robert A. Heinlein (1949) and The Martian Chronicles by Ray Bradbury (1950). The canals, and even Lowell's mausoleum, heavily influence The Gods of Mars (1918) by Edgar Rice Burroughs

There was once a Radio Show based on H.G. WELLS' story, narrated by ORSON WELLES (October 30, 1938), which was taken so seriously by the Americans, that it ignited a widespread PANIC- because it was SINCERELY BELIEVED BY MANY, that the MARTIANS had INVADED EARTH, and were in America- RIGHT THEN!

In one incident, one of the Martian landing craft was sighted in a small town, and fired upon with every weapon available.

When the day broke, the Oyinbo idiots found that they had "killed" a WATER TANK!

It was not until MARINER 4 reached Mars in 1965 that it was seriously considered that there were no Canals on Mars. It was argued, however, that the satellite had only mapped 1% of the surface.

It was not until the 1970s that I heard that the Oyinbos had finally renounced the idea of Canals on Mars.

It was about 1968 that OLYMPUS made available unprecedented Camera optics to the public. The OM-2 lens was made available for Civilian 35mm Camera use. It had a resolving power of 100 lines per millimeter.

It could only have been a matter of time, before lenses of comparable power were made available for home telescope use.

I BELIEVE THAT THAT IS WHEN, AND WHY, THEY ANNOUNCED THAT THERE WERE NO CANALS ON MARS.

That is to say: when the public had the ability to look at Mars, and see for themselves, that there were no "Canals!"

THESE PEOPLE HAVE FOOLED YOU!

They haven't fooled ME.

When sufficiently powerful telescopes become available to the public, the lying will have to stop.

It is already happening.

You are foolish to throw your Eternal Destiny away over such irrelevancies!

God never Commanded anyone to compile a "BIBLE." We were explicitly Commanded to obey MOSES and LORD YESHUA alone. Those are the sole criteria of Judgment.

What has ASTRONOMY got to do with THE TEN TALENTS OF POWER?

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Re: If You Get A Telescope, You Will Immediately Stop Believing The Bible by GoodBadandUgly(m): 8:23pm On Dec 21, 2019
EMILO2STAY:
you are being unreasonable. If you have any rebutal to prove your point then bring it on stop acting silly.

Atheism only makes you cowardish, you disbelieve in God only to believe in theories which has never been proven. You should be sorry for your self.

Wait which of these theories haven't been proven?
is it the fact that gravity is 9.81m/s?
or the fact of evolution described through natural selection?
or the acceleration a charged particle can be done in the large hadron collider?

In fact which theories has your religion proven?
The holy spirit?
that people can walk on water?
that a man can split a sea into two walls?
a virgin can give birth to a god?
that religious healing is more reliable than hospitals and doctors?
Re: If You Get A Telescope, You Will Immediately Stop Believing The Bible by EMILO2STAY(m): 9:49pm On Dec 21, 2019
GoodBadandUgly:


Wait which of these theories haven't been proven?
is it the fact that gravity is 9.81m/s?
or the fact of evolution described through natural selection?
or the acceleration a charged particle can be done in the large hadron collider?

In fact which theories has your religion proven?
The holy spirit?
that people can walk on water?
that a man can split a sea into two walls?
a virgin can give birth to a god?
that religious healing is more reliable than hospitals and doctors?
what is the proof of gravity or evolution?

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Re: If You Get A Telescope, You Will Immediately Stop Believing The Bible by GoodBadandUgly(m): 10:15pm On Dec 21, 2019
EMILO2STAY:
what is the proof of gravity or evolution?

You'll have to do your own homework, you have already proven you haven't bothered. Please do your own self-education to understand the fundamentals and then you can ask more educated questions.
Re: If You Get A Telescope, You Will Immediately Stop Believing The Bible by Eviana(f): 1:27am On Dec 22, 2019
nwabekeyi:
People still believe the bible because they can seem to comprehend anything beyond it.

If Christians can get good telescopes and stargaze all nights, the stories of the bible will become so inaccurate because:

1. You won't be seeing heaven in it...
2. You won't be seeing a sun orbiting the earth
3. You won't be seeing God on the throne
4. All you will see are stars, planets and the international space station, nothing more.


You will realize how small and irrelevant the earth is in respect to the size of the universe..
This is the only acceptable reality
...

No sir,
You are entitled to your opinion...but I must say that you are in error.
If Christians got a good telescope and saw all the trillions of stars, the beauty of the sun by day and moon by night, and the other 7 planets...plus throw in some galaxies etc., the complexity of it all, would only enhance their awe of the mighty God of the Universe...the Lord God Creator....as stated in His Word.
It would further strengthen their faith in the omnipotent and omniscient God who created such a delicately & intricately structured working universe that didn't just happen by "accident".

As far as seeing God in heaven on the throne, that is not yet. But we as Christians, through FAITH in His Word, WILL see Him one day...and it will be eternally.
What we see now is enough.

How could a Creator care so so so much for a small, fallen planet "irrelevant in respect to the size of the universe" as you, sir, wrote above
(which could've been destroyed and forgotten which is true) that He sent His Son Jesus Christ to die so that we (who believe by faith) could be reconciled to Him for eternity??
What kind of love is this! What a sacrifice! He didn't have to do it....BUT He did!
Now "that" is the only acceptable reality....the hope of Christians' salvation.

Psalm 8:3-4 (KJV)

3 When I consider thy heavens, the work of thy fingers, the moon and the stars, which thou hast ordained;
4 What is man, that thou art mindful of him? and the son of man, that thou visitest him?


Psalm 19:1-2 (KJV)

1The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork.
2 Day unto day uttereth speech, and night unto night sheweth knowledge.

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Re: If You Get A Telescope, You Will Immediately Stop Believing The Bible by EMILO2STAY(m): 6:52am On Dec 22, 2019
GoodBadandUgly:


You'll have to do your own homework, you have already proven you haven't bothered. Please do your own self-education to understand the fundamentals and then you can ask more educated questions.
you came here ranting, I asked for your clarification and now your saying I should do my home work. I have done it and found gravity to be a lie. Now you tell me what is gravity and the proof of it?

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Re: If You Get A Telescope, You Will Immediately Stop Believing The Bible by GoodBadandUgly(m): 11:16am On Dec 22, 2019
EMILO2STAY:
you came here ranting, I asked for your clarification and now your saying I should do my home work. [s]I have done it and found gravity to be a lie.[/s] Now you tell me what is gravity and the proof of it?

LMAO gravity is a lie? Your serious scientifically illiterate.
Go read up and Newton's law of universal gravitation. Understand how g forces is demonstrated by dropping objects from a height, in fighter aircrafts, in space vacuum, how the earth’s gravitational pull is different to the fabric of space and the moon. The basic principle of everything is physics is based on gravity as a constant of 9.81m/s. This is a contstant used to design the limitation of aircraft/space structures, used to determine the trajectory and acceleration required for orbital escape of satellites and rockets. Gravity is acting on you everyday, you want to experience the proof? Go and jump off a building and see if you’ll fly up. smiley
It’s not my job to spoon feed knowledge to you, especially if you make such bold and illeterate questions.
Re: If You Get A Telescope, You Will Immediately Stop Believing The Bible by EMILO2STAY(m): 11:30am On Dec 22, 2019
GoodBadandUgly:


LMAO gravity is a lie? Your serious scientifically illiterate.
Go read up and Newton's law of universal gravitation. Understand how g forces is demonstrated by dropping objects from a height, in fighter aircrafts, in space vacuum, how the earth’s gravitational pull is different to the fabric of space and the moon. The basic principle of everything is physics is based on gravity as a constant of 9.81m/s. This is a contstant used to design the limitation of aircraft/space structures, used to determine the trajectory and acceleration required for orbital escape of satellites and rockets. Gravity is acting on you everyday, you want to experience the proof? Go and jump off a building and see if you’ll fly up. smiley
It’s not my job to spoon feed knowledge to you, especially if you make such bold and illeterate questions.
since you claim to know these things then proof it to me if you really understand them otherwise don't quote me.

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Re: If You Get A Telescope, You Will Immediately Stop Believing The Bible by EMILO2STAY(m): 11:31am On Dec 22, 2019
GoodBadandUgly:


LMAO gravity is a lie? Your serious scientifically illiterate.
Go read up and Newton's law of universal gravitation. Understand how g forces is demonstrated by dropping objects from a height, in fighter aircrafts, in space vacuum, how the earth’s gravitational pull is different to the fabric of space and the moon. The basic principle of everything is physics is based on gravity as a constant of 9.81m/s. This is a contstant used to design the limitation of aircraft/space structures, used to determine the trajectory and acceleration required for orbital escape of satellites and rockets. Gravity is acting on you everyday, you want to experience the proof? Go and jump off a building and see if you’ll fly up. smiley
It’s not my job to spoon feed knowledge to you, especially if you make such bold and illeterate questions.
since you claim to know these things then proof it to me if you really understand them otherwise don't quote me.
Re: If You Get A Telescope, You Will Immediately Stop Believing The Bible by GoodBadandUgly(m): 12:02pm On Dec 22, 2019
EMILO2STAY:
since you claim to know these things then proof it to me if you really understand them otherwise don't quote me.

I’ve provided you with the theories you need to be familiar with. How do you expect me to explain 300 years of scientific research to you? cheesy
Stop being intellectually lazy and ignorant, go study what I have mentioned. If you want to experience gravity yourself then jump off a building and when you start falling, you’ll soon realise what gravity is wink wink

If your interested, this is the original demonstration. I have recreated it several times in the lab and anyone around the world can also do it! Feel free to set it up yourself.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cavendish_experiment

So if gravity is a lie in your world then how do you account for...erm objects with masses being attracted to each other?

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