God may predestine other good things, but not someone's going to heaven or someone's going to hell because John 3:16 says "whosever believeth in Him should not perish but have eternal life"....Look at the word WHOSOEVER.

Let's start with this: if you want to fornicate, will you say you were predestined to fornicate & God knows you will fornicate? you made a choice to fornicate. God did not predestine you for such nonsense, you intentionally removed you cloths for defilement. You are not a robot!! So if you say "God knows everything" & has predestined everything including heaven and hell, then you are a robot. Then the armed robbers can say they were predestined to steal & kill. The guys & ladies that cheat can say they are predestined to cheat. So no one is to receive blame!!

Some say that God knows who will go to hell or heaven. Now, therefore this can make people reluctant, expecting to be in hell or heaven..
The issue here is, God gave us choices and life to live. Will you say that God predestined who you are today? Not really, your attitude, choices, opportunities used, actions, information and knowledge brought you to where you are today. If your parents are wealthy and you decide not to go to school, it is not a predestination, but a choice. That a law is passed that whoever does Yahoo plus will be arrested. Will you now say that God predestined those who saw the law against Yahoo plus and still went into Yahoo plus, No. They made a choice. God said if you sin and don't repent before you die, you will go to hell. Now that people sin, are they not conscious when sinning? it is a choice. So someone can't just be sinning consciously and say he is predestined to go to heaven or hell. we determine our destinations by our conscious acts.

People will die, but if someone commits suicide, he forced death into himself, you won't say he was predestined to forcefully kill himself. He had a choice to say Yes or No to suicide.

Finally, God gave you conscience and power to make choices, so that you can "predestine" your life, your going to heaven and your going to hell.

ei ya..... YOUR UNFOUNDED UNVERIFIED RISKY BELIEFS that sooths your ears and the ears of those who do not want to be corrected of their wrongs.

I hope u know that EVERY ACTION has an equal and opposite reaction.

GOD notwithsanding.... kARMA STILL WORKS.

Live recklessly and mercy may not be there for you.

DO not speak or write about what you do not understand both physically and spiritually.

bukkyemotions:
Let's start with this: if you want to fornicate, will you say you were predestined to fornicate & God knows you will fornicate? you made a choice to fornicate. You are not a robot!!

Some say that God knows who will go to hell or heaven. Now, therefore this can make people reluctant, expecting to be in hell or heaven..
The issue here is, God gave us choices and life to live. Will you say that God predestined who you are today? Not really, your attitude, choices, actions, information and knowledge brought you to where you are today. If your parents are wealthy and you decide not to go to school, it is not a predestination, but a choice. That a law is passed that whoever does Yahoo plus will be arrested. Will you now say that God predestined those who saw the law against Yahoo plus and still went into Yahoo plus, No. They made a choice. God said if you sin and don't repent before you die, you will go to hell. Now that people sin, are they not conscious when sinning? it is a choice. So someone can't just be sinning consciously and say he is predestined to go to heaven or hell. we determine our destinations by our conscious acts.

People will die, but if someone commits suicide, he forced death into himself, you won't say he was predestined to forcefully kill himself. He had a choice to say Yes or No to suicide.

Finally, God gave you conscience and power to make choices, so that you can "predestine" your life, your going to heaven and your going to hell.

greatnaija01:
ei ya..... YOUR UNFOUNDED UNVERIFIED RISKY BELIEFS that sooths your ears and the ears of those who do not want to be corrected of their wrongs.

I hope u know that EVERY ACTION has an equal and opposite reaction.

GOD notwithsanding.... kARMA STILL WORKS.

Live recklessly and mercy may not be there for you.

DO not speak or write about what you do not understand both physically and spiritually.

God is so wonderful. Praise Him!!

bukkyemotions:
Let's start with this: if you want to fornicate, will you say you were predestined to fornicate & God knows you will fornicate? you made a choice to fornicate. God did not predestine you for such nonsense, you intentionally removed you cloths for defilement. You are not a robot!! So if you say "God knows everything" & has predestined everything including heaven and hell, then you are a robot. Then the armed robbers can say they were predestined to steal & kill. The guys & ladies that cheat can say they are predestined to cheat. So no one is to receive blame!!

Some say that God knows who will go to hell or heaven. Now, therefore this can make people reluctant, expecting to be in hell or heaven..
The issue here is, God gave us choices and life to live. Will you say that God predestined who you are today? Not really, your attitude, choices, opportunities used, actions, information and knowledge brought you to where you are today. If your parents are wealthy and you decide not to go to school, it is not a predestination, but a choice. That a law is passed that whoever does Yahoo plus will be arrested. Will you now say that God predestined those who saw the law against Yahoo plus and still went into Yahoo plus, No. They made a choice. God said if you sin and don't repent before you die, you will go to hell. Now that people sin, are they not conscious when sinning? it is a choice. So someone can't just be sinning consciously and say he is predestined to go to heaven or hell. we determine our destinations by our conscious acts.

People will die, but if someone commits suicide, he forced death into himself, you won't say he was predestined to forcefully kill himself. He had a choice to say Yes or No to suicide.

Finally, God gave you conscience and power to make choices, so that you can "predestine" your life, your going to heaven and your going to hell.

Don't mind them and their "predestined grace".

budaatum:
Don't mind them and their "predestined grace".

Thanks..

Truth be told!

budaatum:
Don't mind them and their "predestined grace".

Don't mind them!!

What of Pharaoh? God hardened his heart so that he will not let the people go. Jacob and Esau too. Before they were born, God chose Jacob, despite the guy being a cheat

TVSA:
What of Pharaoh? God hardened his heart so that he will not let the people go. Jacob and Esau too. Before they were born, God chose Jacob, despite the guy being a cheat

If you mould your personal block, can the block argue with you on which house to build with it or what to do with it? God created us, whatever He wishes, He is supreme to do as He pleases..

bukkyemotions:
If you mould your personal block, can the block argue with you on which house to build with it or what to do with it? God created us, whatever He wishes, He is supreme to do as He pleases..

doesn't that contradict your argument? if God can do anything he wishes to us, that means our actions are subjected to his wishes. Pharaoh's actions were predetermined by God so that God could show his power through Pharaoh. If we are like blocks, then God can influence our choices to agree with his wishes. That is predestination.

TVSA:
doesn't that contradict your argument? if God can do anything he wishes to us, that means our actions are subjected to his wishes. Pharaoh's actions were predetermined by God so that God could show his power through Pharaoh. If we are like blocks, then God can influence our choices to agree with his wishes. That is predestination.

We are in grace period.. No such encounter after Jesus died!!

bukkyemotions:
We are in grace period.. No such encounter after Jesus died!!

So God stopped being supreme or he stopped doing as he pleases after Jesus died? After all, Paul still spoke about God's predestination and election in Romans 9:9-23

bukkyemotions:
Let's start with this: if you want to fornicate, will you say you were predestined to fornicate & God knows you will fornicate? you made a choice to fornicate. God did not predestine you for such nonsense, you intentionally removed you cloths for defilement. You are not a robot!! So if you say "God knows everything" & has predestined everything including heaven and hell, then you are a robot. Then the armed robbers can say they were predestined to steal & kill. The guys & ladies that cheat can say they are predestined to cheat. So no one is to receive blame!!

Some say that God knows who will go to hell or heaven. Now, therefore this can make people reluctant, expecting to be in hell or heaven..
The issue here is, God gave us choices and life to live. Will you say that God predestined who you are today? Not really, your attitude, choices, opportunities used, actions, information and knowledge brought you to where you are today. If your parents are wealthy and you decide not to go to school, it is not a predestination, but a choice. That a law is passed that whoever does Yahoo plus will be arrested. Will you now say that God predestined those who saw the law against Yahoo plus and still went into Yahoo plus, No. They made a choice. God said if you sin and don't repent before you die, you will go to hell. Now that people sin, are they not conscious when sinning? it is a choice. So someone can't just be sinning consciously and say he is predestined to go to heaven or hell. we determine our destinations by our conscious acts.

People will die, but if someone commits suicide, he forced death into himself, you won't say he was predestined to forcefully kill himself. He had a choice to say Yes or No to suicide.

Finally, God gave you conscience and power to make choices, so that you can "predestine" your life, your going to heaven and your going to hell.

Isn't God omniscient, even before creating terrorists and giving them conscience and power to chose right and wrong like you said, he knew they'll evantually chose wrong and will end in hell but he created them anyway, he is omnipotent and can change it but still he didn't, he is all merciful and only want good for his creation, now where's the goodness and how is our fault.

You imaginary being should be blamed not us, clearly that's how he wanted things to be, we fornicate for his entertainment.

I hope one day you'll overcome this craziness

obinna58:


Isn't God omniscient, even before creating terrorists and giving them conscience and power to chose right and wrong like you said, he knew they'll evantually chose wrong and will end in hell but he created them anyway, he is omnipotent and can change it but still he didn't, he is all merciful and only want good for his creation, now where's the goodness and how is our fault.

You imaginary being should be blamed not us, clearly that's how he wanted things to be, we fornicate for his entertainment.

I hope one day you'll overcome this craziness

What are you talking self??

bukkyemotions:
What are you talking self??

Talking about your imaginary being and his actions

obinna58:
Talking about your imaginary being and his actions

Am I not a truther?

bukkyemotions:
Am I not a truther?

Didn't get that

Jesus saves.

it is well

Jesus is the truth

What of the many Bible verses that show god predestinated some?