Onelaw:




Sango is Africa s greatest King as Dr. Cheik is most certainly the greatest African anthropologist.


Ife is in Nigeria

Oduduwa the great grand father of Sango is said to have migrated him and all his followers to IFE from Moroe Some say he came from Arabia Either way East Africa was ruled by Nubia during that time

600 years ago Africans ruled the Ottomon Empire The Roman Empire and both Americas

All these empires bowed to Nubia the home of the Gods

The God's are the Angels the Bachwezi progenitors sometimes called Annuaki

I meet a Sudanese who told me that his ethnic group has an oral history that speaks to how Nubians the world's tallest people came to be giants

He said that his people mated with the Angels who were extremely tall themselves

Oduduwa was exceptionally tall and most of the people that came with him were exceptionally tall

As for America the Nubias set up the Mexico civilization building with lesser material than their forefathers yet still impressive They set up empires in the Americas Mayans and Incas The Inca king was the head king of the Americas he spoke Hebrew and Arabic

Once we understand Africans were the first people of the Earth and they built civilization on every part of it then the only to do is praise the ancestors for their greatness

Absolutely, i 100% agree with the spirit of your post.

However, Africa predates Asia in years that amount into their hundreds and thousands. The Emperor Oduduwa came out of Yorubaland in Nigeria, his kingdom a major influence on Ancient Egypt, Arabia, and various other world civilisations.

Horus:
The Meroë Pyramids of Sudan are 2,000 years older than Egypt's pyramids

I've learnt never to dispute your scholarship, Horus.

Thanks for the information, sir.

geosegun:


I am interested, Please send to yahoo.com. Let me know if this is possible. Cheers

Read THIS book, and you will learn just about EVERYTHING that caused Africa's rise and eventual fall.

The Destruction of Black Civiization by Dr Chancellor Williams of blessed memory. This Oxford trained African-American scholar and historian spent many years in Africa, and visited over 25 countries, investigating the rise and fall of African civilization. The book has been called 'The Black Man's Bible'. I highly recommend it. You will learn so much.

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musicwriter:


The Egyptians themselves were descendants of the Nubians, not the other way round.

True. And history attests to it:


THE DOCUMENTARY EVIDENCE

Note: All of Africa South of the Sahara was known to the ancient Greeks as ''Ethiopia''.


Greek historian Diodorus Siculus. Author of Bibliotheka Historica. From his own statements we learn that he travelled in Egypt around 60 BC.

His travels in Egypt probably took him as far south as the first Cataract.


"They (the Ethiopians) say also that the Egyptians are colonists sent out by the Ethiopians, Osiris ["King of Kings and God of Gods] having been the leader of the colony . . . they add that the Egyptians have received from them, as from authors and their ancestors, the greater part of their laws."

Much of Book 3 of the Bibliotheka Historica is devoted to the intertwined histories of Dionysus and the god-favored Ethiopians whom he believed to be the originators of Egyptian civilization. [emphasis added]

(1st century B.C., Diodorus Siculus of Sicily, Greek historian and contemporary of Caesar Augustus, Universal History Book III. 2. 4-3. 3)

Diodorus devoted an entire chapter of his world history, the Bibliotheke Historica, or Library of History (Book 3), to the Kushites ["Aithiopians"] of Meroe. Here he repeats the story of their great piety, their high favor with the gods, and adds the fascinating legend that they were the first of all men created by the gods and were the founders of Egyptian civilization, invented writing, and had given the Egyptians their religion and culture. (3.3.2).

"Now they relate that of all people the Aithiopians [Ethiopians] were the earliest, and say that the proofs of this are clear. That they did not arrive as immigrants but are the natives of the country and therefore rightly are called authochthonous is almost universally accepted. That those who live in the South are likely to be the first engendered by the earth is obvious to all. For as it was the heat of the sun that dried up the earth while it was still moist, at the time when everything came into being, and caused life, they say it is probable that it was the region closest to the sun that first bore animate beings".


Diodorus continues:


"They further write that it was among them that people were first taught to honor the gods and offer sacrifices and arrange processions and festivals and perform other things by which people honor the divine. For this reason their piety is famous among all men, and the sacrifices among the Aithiopians are believed to be particularly pleasing to the divinity,"

"The Aithiopians say that the Egyptians are settlers from among themselves and that Osiris was the leader of the settlement.The customs of the Egyptians, they say, are for the most part Aithiopian, the settlers having preserved their old traditions. For to consider the kings gods, to pay great attention to funeral rites, and many other things, are Aithiopian practices, and also the style of their statues and the form of their writing are Aithiopian. Also the way the priestly colleges are organized is said to be the same in both nations. For all who have to do with the cult of the gods, they maintain, are [ritually] pure: the priests are shaved in the same way, they have the same robes and the type of scepter shaped like a plough, which also the kings have, who use tall pointed felt hats ending in a knob, with the snakes that they call the asp (aspis) coiled round them."

"There are also numerous other Aithiopian tribes [i.e. besides those centered at Meroe]; some live along both sides of the river Nile and on the islands in the river, others dwell in the regions that border on Arabia [i.e. to the east], others again have settled in the interior of Libya [i.e. to the west]. The majority of these tribes, in particular those who live along the river, have black skin, snub-nosed faces, and curly hair".

(Diodous Siculus, Bibliotheke, 3. Translated by Tomas Hagg, in Fontes Historiae Nubiorum, vol. II: From the Mid-Fifth to the First Century BC (Bergen, Norway, 1996)

Rossikk:


Read THIS book, and you will learn just about EVERYTHING that caused Africa's rise and eventual fall.

The Destruction of Black Civiization by Dr Chancellor Williams of blessed memory. This Oxford trained African-American scholar and historian spent many years in Africa, and visited over 25 countries, investigating the rise and fall of African civilization. The book has been called 'The Black Man's Bible'. I highly recommend it. You will learn so much.

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Interesting and informative thread. Kudos. Do you have a soft copy of that book?

Diodorus' words on the blacks of Africa ('the Aithiopians') written in 60 BC:

"They further write that it was among them that people were first taught to honor the gods and offer sacrifices and arrange processions and festivals and perform other things by which people honour the divine. For this reason their piety is famous among all men, and the sacrifices among the Aithiopians are believed to be particularly pleasing to the divinity."

Diodorus is right. There was a time when if a black man prayed to the Almighty, his wishes came true automatically. Africa was known as the Land of the Gods, and Africans were referred to as ''the blameless Ethiopians''. If you google that term, you'll be shocked by the number of ancient Greek references to Africans using that phrase.

gensteejay:

Interesting and informative thread. Kudos. Do you have a soft copy of that book?

I'll see if I can find one. I've seen it before online somewhere.

When Europe was a wasteland of barbarism and cave-dwelling illiteracy, Sudan (ancient Nubia) was giving the world mighty temples and pyramids built according to the highest mathematical and geometric principles and standards.

Not impressed by those small structures, sorry. BTW cave dwelling was quite common in many African regions. African cave art is pretty well recognized. Living in caves is rather smart as it provides excellent protection from weather and animals that would eat you. What was the written language of these people of Sudan.

The Ancient Greek civilization began 12 centuries before Christ. Why would discount this and not mention it. The largest Pyramid built is in Guatemala. Constructed over 2,000 years ago.
El Mirador is truly the lost Mayan city, a huge site (some say the largest Mayan city in existance) in the jungle of northern Guatemala. It is in the Mirador Basin, a vast area of virgin rain forest which also contains dozens of Mayan ruins including several large cities, the largest of which is the one known as El Mirador (which means “The Lookout”). The site is known as the cradle of Mayan civilization and is home to several huge structures and many square miles of unrestored mounds and pyramids in the jungle, covered in vegetation. It has been called the oldest and most extensive Mayan site in the world, covering 38 square miles, larger than the city of Los Angeles. No hotels, restaurants or tourist facilities. There are archeologists working there, however.

The Mirador Basin in northeastern Guatemala is home to the largest tract of virgin rainforest in Central America. Within this region lies the remote site of El Mirador, the largest Mayan city that ever existed. The civic center of the site covers some 10 square miles with several thousand structures, including monumental architecture covered in vegetation. Among the ruins at El Mirador are the Danta and Tigre pyramids, the former said to be the largest pyramid in the world in terms of volume.

The city’s main group of buildings covers two square kilometers and many were built on a grand scale, such as the “El Tigre” complex and the “La Danta” complex. El Tigre rises to about 180 feet tall, and its base covers 14 acres. The La Danta complex has a base that would cover 35 football fields. On top of this base is a series of plazas, temples, pyramids and other structures reaching to a total height of 230 feet, making it one of the tallest of all Mayan structures.

^^ Stop posting modern artist renditions. This is a History thread for adults.

Plus if we are to go for the ''biggest'', we could EASILY go to Egypt, black Africa's greatest civilization.

Black Africans heavily influenced ancient Maya/Mexican civilizations, by the way.

Thanks!

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Rossikk:


I'll see if I can find one. I've seen it before online somewhere.

Ok, thanks.

Onelaw:

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There are some of us who reside in the inner Earth yes it exists and the inner Earth is in some of the tales of Sango

The Orishas are said to live in the Inner Earth

We even created Caucasians and the other races we created them by mixing our DNA with animals

Our greatest treasure is the occult all science comes from the occult which is Alchemy the study of the light

The entire creation is made of astral light and has 3 stages salt, sulfur and mercury

Then light is fire, earth air and water

Mind you this isn't limited to physical substance because we live in a stimulated reality Alchemy is inner and spiritual control of the cosmic forces

Dr. Cheik was brilliant and I can't imagine anyone adding to what he wrote about African civilization

Yet we are at different stage in our liberation this stage is practical Nation building Empire building

So study the occult all of it you can find because that's where the true science of Kemet exists


We created the Caucasian

Teach!

Onelaw:



Make a correction the indigenous Europeans are Africans aka Moors

The Moors ruled Nortern Europe under the Roman Empire they ruled England

All the castles are building designs which come from Ethiopian

We were the knights and Kings of Europe and Caucasians were our slaves or Slavic people the kings ruled them as serfs

The Vikings are Moors The Celts are Moors

Caucasians come from genetic experiments

The Moors mixed with them and were bleached out and overcome over a long time like centuries Too many mulattoes created from the mixing of Moors and Caucasians

LOL
European DNA goes back a heck of a lot longer than that.
The genetic history of Europe since the Upper Paleolithic is inseparable from that of wider Western Eurasia. By about 50,000 years ago (50 ka) a basal West Eurasian lineage had emerged (alongside a separate East Asian lineage) out of the undifferentiated "non-African" lineage of 70 ka.[3] The basal Western Eurasians were early exposed to significant Neanderthal admixture. Introgression of Neanderthal traits persisted in European populations into the present, affecting traits such as skin tone and hair color, height, sleeping patterns and mood.[4]

European early modern humans (EEMH) lineages between 40 to 26 ka (Aurignacian) were still part of a large Western Eurasian "meta-population", related to Central and Western Asian populations.[3] Divergence into genetically distinct sub-populations within Western Eurasia is a result of increased selection pressure and founder effects during the Last Glacial Maximum (LGM, Gravettian).[5] By the end of the LGM, after 20 ka, A Western European lineage, dubbed West European Hunter-Gatherer (WHG) emerges from the Solutrean refugium during the European Mesolithic.[6] These mesolithic hunter-gatherer cultures are substantially replaced in the Neolithic Revolution by the arrival of Early European Farmers (EEF) lineages derived from mesolithic populations of West Asia (Anatolia and the Caucasus).[7] In the European Bronze Age, there were again substantial population replacements in parts of Europe by the intrusion of Ancient North Eurasian (ANE) lineages from the Pontic–Caspian steppes. These Bronze Age population replacements are associated with the Beaker culture archaeologically and with the Indo-European expansion linguistically.[8]

Found in Northern Sudan.

Buhen Temple Sudan national museum

TAO11:


Please tell me more about this image of Shango here. Is this statue in Sudan?

Cos I recently read a work by the great historian and anthropologist Cheikh Anta Diop viz. "The African Origin of Civilization" wherein he cited Pédrals' reference to Morié that Shango once ruled the Nubians, the Kush kingdom to be precise.

This testimony by Morié is said by Pédrals to have been found in a Coptic text translated from the Arabic and published (actually outside of Africa) in Paris, France, in the year 1666.

Cheikh Anta Diop's reference to Pédrals on the subject is as follows:

"As Morié puts it, this Obba-Kouso was born at Ife, a locality which our author is completely unacquainted."

It interestingly continues to state that:

"Chango-Obba-Kouso's brothers are Dada, god of nature, and Ogoun, god of hunters and black smiths. He has three wives: Oya, Osoun, and Oba."

It further continues to call him as:

"King of Kush"

[Pédrals, pp. 30-31]

It is important to mention that Cheikh Anta Diop, just as Pédrals, emphasized that Morié himself has absolutely no idea where Ife (the city whose name he takes from the Coptic text) is.

Also, the parallel between the two titles:

"Obba-Kouso" and "King of Kush" is amazingly very striking.

Indeed, the Yorubas obviously have this phrase "King of Kush" among their epithets of Shango for centuries without even realizing it, yet speculating different hypothetical meanings for it. Thanks to the ancient Arabic text of the Copts.

I 100% agree with your post and will add the video to act as corroborating proof.

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The Origins Of Humanity: featuring Dr Cheikh Anta Diop (Senegalese historian, anthropologist, physicist who studied the human race’s origin and pre- colonial African culture)

Its important to note that although Diop speaks fluent French, is immediately translated from French into English by the translator in the video.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sZNiWZF8Dw&t=357s. How the Caucasians were created

Onelaw:



Caucasians DNA you meant to say

Yes their DNA goes back 6 thousands years

The 2010 Neanderthal project sought to put to rest did Man evolve from Apes

DNA samples were taken from every major ethnic group on Earth and it was discovered Caucasians and Asians have Neanderthal DNA

All Africans are 100 percent human with exception of Diaspora Africans who have some blood mixture with Neanderthal that's because Sub Sahara Africans had strict taboos against mixing blood even with other tribes let alone animals The mixture of Sub Sahara didn t occur until the 18th century colonization

Yet Diasporia Moors created the Caucasian as a slave species to work in gold mines basically as diggers which stems the word Niger or Niggers the Caucasian Freed Moor Son or Freemason reversed all true history

We shipped Caucasian women around the world creating what is known today as White Slavery which is so called White women being sold into sex slavery all over the world

The work robot i.e Neanderthal slave diggers and sex robot White women sex slave isn't a new idea just different material

Some of our ancestors were wicked yet geniuses of Alchemy

The Sultan knew it was wrong to enslave another conscious being, less intelligent and gifted as the African, yet nonetheless born with certain unalienable rights as a conscious being

The Sultan ran the evil priests out of Egypt they came back centuries later took it over with their new slaves and changed history

What I give you is the truth

Truth is powerful

There was some Moorish activity in Iberia (Spain) and they did raid European villages for slaves, but they brought them back to N. Africa. But beyond there was very little Moor influence on the bulk of Europe.

Onelaw:



Caucasians DNA you meant to say

Yes their DNA goes back 6 thousands years

The 2010 Neanderthal project sought to put to rest did Man evolve from Apes

DNA samples were taken from every major ethnic group on Earth and it was discovered Caucasians and Asians have Neanderthal DNA

All Africans are 100 percent human with exception of Diaspora Africans who have some blood mixture with Neanderthal that's because Sub Sahara Africans had strict taboos against mixing blood even with other tribes let alone animals The mixture of Sub Sahara didn t occur until the 18th century colonization

Yet Diasporia Moors created the Caucasian as a slave species to work in gold mines basically as diggers which stems the word Niger or Niggers the Caucasian Freed Moor Son or Freemason reversed all true history

We shipped Caucasian women around the world creating what is known today as White Slavery which is so called White women being sold into sex slavery all over the world

The work robot i.e Neanderthal slave diggers and sex robot White women sex slave isn't a new idea just different material

Some of our ancestors were wicked yet geniuses of Alchemy

The Sultan knew it was wrong to enslave another conscious being, less intelligent and gifted as the African, yet nonetheless born with certain unalienable rights as a conscious being

The Sultan ran the evil priests out of Egypt they came back centuries later took it over with their new slaves and changed history

What I give you is the truth

Truth is powerful

Further the Moors capturing Euro slaves existed from 16th to the 18th century, lol. you are crazy. They didn't "create" Caucasians or white Euros.

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You are funny.

This is truly very educative, although I do not belong to school of thoughts in terms of creation of the Caucasians. We are not the Annunakis but almost all races of the world agreed that Africans were the first and that historians have not been fair to us due to lying of past historians and their hidden and explicit racism. We have always lived on the most stable and richest of the continents. We are been lied to quite a lot.

My European colleague once told me that they have been wholly unfair to Africans as most of their achievements have been claimed and others destroyed because of their initial inferiority complex (added by me). Some truths were intensionally ommitted.

Another had is dna test and was surprised to see traces of about 1.5% dna African (Nigerian to be precise) and about 1.8% Neatheranther dna. this actually humbled him as he was wondering how the Nig. Dna comes into being in him. This is true. Most whites that have done these dna are More friendly as they have known the truth that African are true humans with 100% human dna especially in Nigeria (Yoruba) and South Africa ( Khoisan).

I have always learnt to know who I am

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This your image get k-led, how can the hands and laps be pink/white and the head black. Are you concocting lies too?

Onelaw,

If The Africans ruled Ottoman Empire and Rome which means they controlled both Northern and Southern Europe....it would not have been called the Ottoman Empire, nor the Roman Empire LOL. The Ottomans and Romans ran their own empires. If Moors/Morocco ruled them they why in the Bleep would Hannibal go to war against his own empire (Rome) that he ruled.

musicwriter:


Because of slavery/ colonialism/ intellectual slavery. If interested, I can send you 3 books that after reading them you'll no longer be surprised.

Waiting in anticipation for the books Sir