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Re: NFVCB May Ban 'Bobrisky In Love' Movie Over Homosexuality by lexy2014: 12:23pm On May 24, 2019
Deepfeel:

When two people come together to take vows oats to love each other till death do them part, love each other and no one else they two make a whole bunch of promises to each other and then after marriage they break those vows is that not Violation against those oath they took between themselves? polygamy is not a personal things it has to do with tying one's self to multiple people under an oath and polygamy comes with a lot of conflicts between the multiple wife's of the man involved and their kids even after his death they keep fighting over properties even killing each other it affects not only the family but society at large
Nigeria making homosexuality lesbianism and prostitution a crime to me makes no sense,

U are talking of two people. What makes u think 3 people don't come together? What kind of vows would u say d folks in d pix took? D questions u refused to answer are simple:
If a Muslim gets married to more than one woman according 2 his religious orientation, how's that a " violation of certain oaths, commitments& obligations between two people"? If d same is done under traditional setting, how's that a "violation of certain oaths, commitments& obligations between two people"?"

Or is it only in d western way that marriages are contracted?

So because a person ties himself to several wives then it is not a personal thing? How do u define "personal" that makes it applicable to homosexuality but not to polygamy?

D family crisis u enumerated, are they not present in monogamous homes? Don't husbands& wives kill themselves in monogamous marriages? Don't children fight over property in monogamous marriages? But even if these were exclusive to polygamous marriages, how does that make polygamy a crime?

I asked u earlier, how is crime defined? How does a society arrive at a conclusion that an act is a crime or not a crime?

Re: NFVCB May Ban 'Bobrisky In Love' Movie Over Homosexuality by Deepfeel(m): 1:32pm On May 24, 2019
lexy2014:


U are talking of two people. What makes u think 3 people don't come together? What kind of vows would u say d folks in d pix took? D questions u refused to answer are simple:
If a Muslim gets married to more than one woman according 2 his religious orientation, how's that a " violation of certain oaths, commitments& obligations between two people"? If d same is done under traditional setting, how's that a "violation of certain oaths, commitments& obligations between two people"?"

Or is it only in d western way that marriages are contracted?

So because a person ties himself to several wives then it is not a personal thing? How do u define "personal" that makes it applicable to homosexuality but not to polygamy?

D family crisis u enumerated, are they not present in monogamous homes? Don't husbands& wives kill themselves in monogamous marriages? Don't children fight over property in monogamous marriages? But even if these were exclusive to polygamous marriages, how does that make polygamy a crime?

I asked u earlier, how is crime defined? How does a society arrive at a conclusion that an act is a crime or not a crime?


Am not saying 3 people can't come together, and am not saying a man who marries according to his religious orientation or tradition violates any of those aboved mentioned, and I know marriages are not contracted only in the Western way, you were the one that brought that up in the first,
And I say polygamy is not personal cause it's involves multiple people bidding themselves under certain oaths obligations
it doesn't apply to a homosexual who is single, unless he decides to marry then it's no longer personal, I will say whatever is of one's
Private concern not having to be placed under any obligations vows or oaths between you and other individuals or harms or affects other individuals it's personal ,
And I can't tell you why polygamy it's a crime in the Western world, maybe cause of the complications that comes with it cause their law's only covers marital problems between two individuals , or cause they see women equal with men and when divorcing the wife gets a fair equal share of what ever property they have etc

Well a crime is a specific act committed in a violation of certain law's or violation against one's human rights etc a society might conclude that a certain act is a crime, cause that act might be harmful not only to the perpetrator of the act but other individuals aswell .
Re: NFVCB May Ban 'Bobrisky In Love' Movie Over Homosexuality by lexy2014: 1:56pm On May 24, 2019
Deepfeel:

Am not saying 3 people can't come together, and am not saying a man who marries according to his religious orientation or tradition violates any of those aboved mentioned, and I know marriages are not contracted only in the Western way, you were the one that brought that up in the first,
And I say polygamy is not personal cause it's involves multiple people bidding themselves under certain oaths obligations
it doesn't apply to a homosexual who is single, unless he decides to marry then it's no longer personal, I will say whatever is of one's
Private concern not having to be placed under any obligations vows or oaths between you and other individuals or harms or affects other individuals it's personal ,
And I can't tell you why polygamy it's a crime in the Western world, maybe cause of the complications that comes with it cause their law's only covers marital problems between two individuals

Well a crime is a specific act committed in a violation of certain law's or violation against one's human rights etc a society might conclude that a certain act is a crime, cause that act might be harmful not only to the perpetrator of the act but other individuals aswell .

These are ur exact words

Deepfeel:

When two people come together to take vows oats to love each other till death do them part, love each other and no one else they two make a whole bunch of promises to each other and then after marriage they break those vows is that not Violation against those oath they took between themselves?

Despite I was talking about polygamy, u were using d conditions under which people practice monogamy to define polygamy.

This what u said earlierearlier
Deepfeel:

But ones sexuality is a personal thing

This contradicts d way u used d word personal in explaining polygamy.

Deepfeel:

And I say polygamy is not personal cause it's involves multiple people bidding themselves under certain oaths obligations
it doesn't apply to a homosexual who is single, unless he decides to marry then it's no longer personal, I will say whatever is of one's

Does a person practice homosexuality on himself or with someone?

Deepfeel:

Well a crime is a specific act committed in a violation of certain law's or violation against one's human rights etc a society might conclude that a certain act is a crime, cause that act might be harmful not only to the perpetrator of the act but other individuals aswell .

An act isn't a crime cos it will harm d perpetrator. An act is a crime when it violates d laws of a society. Its a society that decides what constitutes a crime based on its values. As far as d values of d western world is concerned, polygamy is a crime. In Africa & d middle east, homosexuality is a crime based on pur values. D same way d western world sees homosexuality as harmless, is d same way we in Africa c polygamy as harmless.

So ur statement below reads

"Nigeria will never move forward with this type of mentality, am not gay but I feel everyone should be allowed to practice whatever sexuality he or she wishes"


If that is d case, then western countries won't move forward cos they persecute those who practice polygamy while they protect homosexuality
Re: NFVCB May Ban 'Bobrisky In Love' Movie Over Homosexuality by Deepfeel(m): 2:19pm On May 24, 2019
lexy2014:


These are ur exact words



Despite I was talking about polygamy, u were using d conditions under which people practice monogamy to define polygamy.

This what u said earlierearlier


This contradicts d way u used d word personal in explaining polygamy.



Does a person practice homosexuality on himself or with someone?



An act isn't a crime cos it will harm d perpetrator. An act is a crime when it violates d laws of a society. Its a society that decides what constitutes a crime based on its values. As far as d values of d western world is concerned, polygamy is a crime. In Africa & d middle east, homosexuality is a crime based on pur values. D same way d western world sees homosexuality as harmless, is d same way we in Africa c polygamy as harmless.

So ur statement below reads

"Nigeria will never move forward with this type of mentality, am not gay but I feel everyone should be allowed to practice whatever sexuality he or she wishes"


If that is d case, then western countries won't move forward cos they persecute those who practice polygamy while they protect homosexuality
And you believe polygamy is harmless?
Re: NFVCB May Ban 'Bobrisky In Love' Movie Over Homosexuality by lexy2014: 2:34pm On May 24, 2019
Deepfeel:

And you believe polygamy is harmless?

But u haven't been able to prove that is harmful, have u? All d things u say are bad in polygamy also occur in monogamy. Do we because of that now conclude that monogamy is harmful?
Re: NFVCB May Ban 'Bobrisky In Love' Movie Over Homosexuality by Deepfeel(m): 3:14pm On May 24, 2019
lexy2014:


But u haven't been able to prove that is harmful, have u? All d things u say are bad in polygamy also occur in monogamy. Do we because of that now conclude that monogamy is harmful?

Do women in polygamous marriage have same rights benefits, love attention, same level as women in monogamous marriage have? Does a woman in a monogamous marriage have a co wife to contend with even while the husband is dead or alive? Does a woman in a polygamous marriage have an equal share in her husbands property if she decides to divorce him cause most of them work 50/50 with their husbands? Is there any law that protects a woman in a polygamous marriage from all these things? Are all these not harmful to her? Polygamy is harmful cause it doesn't really protect and portrays a woman's true worth and value, it has a lot of infringement on a woman's human rights
Re: NFVCB May Ban 'Bobrisky In Love' Movie Over Homosexuality by lexy2014: 3:43pm On May 24, 2019
Deepfeel:

Do women in polygamous marriage have same rights benefits, love attention, same level as women in monogamous marriage have? Does a woman in a monogamous marriage have a co wife to contend with even while the husband is dead or alive? Does a woman in a polygamous marriage have an equal share in her husbands property if she decides to divorce him cause most of them work 50/50 with their husbands? Is there any law that protects a woman in a polygamous marriage from all these things? Are all these not harmful to her? Polygamy is harmful cause it doesn't really protect and portrays a woman's true worth and value, it has a lot of infringement on a woman's human rights

What is d guarantee that a woman in a monogamous marriage will get benefits, love and attention from her husband? Are there no monogamous marriages where women suffer abuse, domestic violence and even death? We have more monogamous marriages in Nigeria than in time past. All d cases of domestic violence that we hear about are they from polygamous marriages or monogamous marriages? When Abiola died, did u see or hear his wives fighting over property? Does monogamy guarantee love in a home or marriage? Can we then say that because monogamy has all these, then it is also harmful & then it should b criminalised?

What is a woman's true worth and value? So once a woman is in a monogamous marriage, then there will b no problem. There her true "worth& value" will come out. Which marriage was Prince Charles/Diana, brad Pitt& Angelina jolie, tonto&Churchill? Trump has been married 4 times. Y did his wives leave him. Y did anita leave chris oyakhilomen? With what u are saying divorce and monogamy ought to b parallel lines
Re: NFVCB May Ban 'Bobrisky In Love' Movie Over Homosexuality by Deepfeel(m): 4:36pm On May 24, 2019
lexy2014:


What is d guarantee that a woman in a monogamous marriage will get benefits, love and attention from her husband? Are there no monogamous marriages where women suffer abuse, domestic violence and even death? We have more monogamous marriages in Nigeria than in time past. All d cases of domestic violence that we hear about are they from polygamous marriages or monogamous marriages? When Abiola died, did u see or hear his wives fighting over property? Does monogamy guarantee love in a home or marriage? Can we then say that because monogamy has all these, then it is also harmful & then it should b criminalised?

What is a woman's true worth and value? So once a woman is in a monogamous marriage, then there will b no problem. There her true "worth& value" will come out. Which marriage was Prince Charles/Diana, brad Pitt& Angelina jolie, tonto&Churchill? Trump has been married 4 times. Y did his wives leave him. Y did anita leave chris oyakhilomen? With what u are saying divorce and monogamy ought to b parallel lines



A woman in a monogamous marriage is protected by the law, she has rights to back out of the marriage anytime with benefits, if she suffers all these things mentioned am not saying it's a guarantee for love and but it's a guarantee she won't leave empty handed, women under polygamous marriage don't have those rights
Imagine a woman who suffered 50/50 with her husband to build acquire properties in the family name at the end of it all the man brings in a Young lady to share same benefits with the older lady cause she too is married to the man legally? The first wife is hurt but can't fight back cause there is no law that supports her and if she decides to divorce she's going empty handed is that not painful? Is that not an infringement on her human rights, is her worth and value noticed in such case do you think all this monogamous marriage you mentioned that divorced do you think those ladies left empty handed, do you think Trump divorced those ladies without giving them anything? Or pastor Chris?
Re: NFVCB May Ban 'Bobrisky In Love' Movie Over Homosexuality by lexy2014: 5:28pm On May 24, 2019
Deepfeel:




A woman in a monogamous marriage is protected by the law, she has rights to back out of the marriage anytime with benefits, if she suffers all these things mentioned am not saying it's a guarantee for love and but it's a guarantee she won't leave empty handed, women under polygamous marriage don't have those rights
Imagine a woman who suffered 50/50 with her husband to build acquire properties in the family name at the end of it all the man brings in a Young lady to share same benefits with the older lady cause she too is married to the man legally? The first wife is hurt but can't fight back cause there is no law that supports her and if she decides to divorce she's going empty handed is that not painful? Is that not an infringement on her human rights, is her worth and value noticed in such case do you think all this monogamous marriage you mentioned that divorced do you think those ladies left empty handed, do you think Trump divorced those ladies without giving them anything? Or pastor Chris?


Ur argument has been how beautiful monogamous marriages are as against polygamy. Let's take a look at what u said about monogamy b4 divorce

Deepfeel:

Do women in polygamous marriage have same rights benefits, love attention, same level as women in monogamous marriage have? Does a woman in a monogamous marriage have a co wife to contend with even while the husband is dead or alive?

Who was Anita oyakhilomen contending with in her marriage? Did Angelina jolie have a co-wife she was fighting with? Since trump was always monogamous, y didn't his wives automatically get d benefits, love and attention that monogamy guarantees? Y did they divorce? Y did d late Diana leave her husband Charles? Wasn't it a monogamous marriage?


Also u said:

"Polygamy violates some certain oaths, commitments& obligations between two people"

Going by this, u mean monogamy guarantees these oaths, commitments& obligations between d two people. My point is this, if it is this rosy as u painted it as against polygamy, then y d divorces? If monogamy doesn't "violates some certain oaths, commitments& obligations between two people", then monogamous couples shouldn't divorce. We shouldn't hear of domestic violence in monogamous homes.

When it comes 2d issue of benefits and divorce, are u telling me that in this part of d world it is guaranteed? How many Nigerian men in monogamous marriages have u seen divorce their wives and settle them? D best most of them do is alimony if d wife has d kids. Haven't u seen women being forced by her husbands family to relinquish what they laboured 4 with their husbands after he died despite they were monogamous? Are u sure u are in this country or u are just speaking of d ideal?

In d reverse, I no a top Nigerian Muslim who divorced his first wife & settled her here in Nigeria. So oga, there's no hard and fast rule to it. What makes monogamy or polygamy either harmful or enjoyable isn't d marriage itself but d people in it. So far, u haven't been able to show how monogamy is less harmful than polygamy.
Re: NFVCB May Ban 'Bobrisky In Love' Movie Over Homosexuality by Deepfeel(m): 6:26pm On May 24, 2019
lexy2014:



Ur argument has been how beautiful monogamous marriages are as against polygamy. Let's take a look at what u said about monogamy b4 divorce



Who was Anita oyakhilomen contending with in her marriage? Did Angelina jolie have a co-wife she was fighting with? Since trump was always monogamous, y didn't his wives automatically get d benefits, love and attention that monogamy guarantees? Y did they divorce? Y did d late Diana leave her husband Charles? Wasn't it a monogamous marriage?


Also u said:

"Polygamy violates some certain oaths, commitments& obligations between two people"

Going by this, u mean monogamy guarantees these oaths, commitments& obligations between d two people. My point is this, if it is this rosy as u painted it as against polygamy, then y d divorces? If monogamy doesn't "violates some certain oaths, commitments& obligations between two people", then monogamous couples shouldn't divorce.


When it comes 2d issue of benefits and divorce, are u telling me that in this part of d world it is guaranteed? How many Nigerian men in monogamous marriages have u seen divorce their wives and settle them? D best most of them do is alimony if d wife has d kids. Haven't u seen women being forced by her husbands family to relinquish what they laboured 4 with their husbands after he died despite they were monogamous? Are u sure u are in this country or u are just speaking of d ideal?

In d reverse, I no a top Nigerian Muslim who divorced his first wife & settled her here in Nigeria. So oga, there's no hard and fast rule to it. What makes monogamy or polygamy either harmful or enjoyable isn't d marriage itself but d people in it. So far, u haven't been able to show how monogamy is less harmful than polygamy.

My argument hasn't been on how beautiful monogamous marriage is against polygamous marriage, but it has been about how a woman in a monogamous marriage has more rights and benefits compared to the one's in polygamous marriages, and it's a crime if her rights are violated by law, I never said it's a guarantee to a happy loving marriage, every lady in a monogamous marriage under law has it at the back of their minds that she's entitled to have a share in whatever she and her husband has in case of divorce, and about the violations of oaths or commitment every man in a monogamous marriage has it at the back of his minds that, it's a wrong or crime against his partner if he violate them, so he either do it secretly in a way he won't be caught by his partner, cause he knows its a crime if not why not openly do like a man in a polygamous marriage will do? After all his entitled to have as many as he wants,
So I never said those oaths or obligations will automatically stop a man from cheating on his wife,

And just because Nigeria law system is so corrupt that a man who divorces his wife holding back her entitlement doesn't make it right it's a crime against the lady human rights
And outside religious or traditional laws, the Court will never marry a woman to a man who is already did constitutional Court marriage with anyone woman unless they are divorced legally by same law that wedded them even here in Nigeria

And if the Muslim man you claim divorced his wife with settlement he settled her out of freewill and kindness not that the lady is entitled to it or the man is under any law to settle her,

Stop saying am saying monogamous marriage is a guarantee for a Rosy marriage filled with love and attention that's not the point ,
Re: NFVCB May Ban 'Bobrisky In Love' Movie Over Homosexuality by lexy2014: 6:52pm On May 24, 2019
Deepfeel:


My argument hasn't been on how beautiful monogamous marriage is against polygamous marriage, but it has been about how a woman in a monogamous marriage has more rights and benefits compared to the one's in polygamous marriages, and it's a crime if her rights are violated by law, I never said it's a guarantee to a happy loving marriage, every lady in a monogamous marriage under law has it at the back of their minds that she's entitled to have a share in whatever she and her husband has in case of divorce, and about the violations of oaths or commitment every man in a monogamous marriage has it at the back of his minds that, it's a wrong or crime against his partner if he violate them, so he either do it secretly in a way he won't be caught by his partner, cause he knows its a crime if not why not openly do like a man in a polygamous marriage will do? After all his entitled to have as many as he wants,
So I never said those oaths or obligations will automatically stop a man from cheating on his wife,

And just because Nigeria law system is so corrupt that a man who divorces his wife holding back her entitlement doesn't make it right it's a crime against the lady human rights
And outside religious or traditional laws, the Court will never marry a woman to a man who is already did constitutional Court marriage with anyone woman unless they are divorced legally by same law that wedded them even here in Nigeria

And if the Muslim man you claim divorced his wife with settlement he settled her out of freewill and kindness not that the lady is entitled to it or the man is under any law to settle her,

Stop saying am saying monogamous marriage is a guarantee for a Rosy marriage filled with love and attention that's not the point ,

Its not me who said monogamous marriages are a guarantee for rosy marriage filled with ur love. Its u who said it. U are now denying ur words.

What does this mean:


"Do women in polygamous marriage have same rights benefits, love attention, same level as women in monogamous marriage have? Does a woman in a monogamous marriage have a co wife to contend with even while the husband is dead or alive?"


Deepfeel:


My argument hasn't been on how beautiful monogamous marriage is against polygamous marriage, but it has been about how a woman in a monogamous marriage has more rights and benefits compared to the one's in polygamous marriages, and it's a crime if her rights are violated by law, I never said it's a guarantee to a happy loving marriage,

Oga, y are u disowning ur words. Pls what does this mean?

Deepfeel:

Do women in polygamous marriage have same rights benefits, love attention, same level as women in monogamous marriage have? Does a woman in a monogamous marriage have a co wife to contend with even while the husband is dead or alive?

When u say rights, benefits, love and attention, how's that different from being beautiful and rosy?


Deepfeel:


And just because Nigeria law system is so corrupt that a man who divorces his wife holding back her entitlement doesn't make it right it's a crime against the lady human rights

D question is, is this scenario obtainable in monogamous marriages?

Deepfeel:

And outside religious or traditional laws, the Court will never marry a woman to a man who is already did constitutional Court marriage with anyone woman unless they are divorced legally by same law that wedded them even here in Nigeria


Initially when I brought up d issue of Muslim & traditional based marriage, u were arguing & trying to use western marriage as d basis 4 judging how Muslim and traditional marriages are transacted. FYI, i didnt talk about court marriage thru out our discussion.


Deepfeel:


And if the Muslim man you claim divorced his wife with settlement he settled her out of freewill and kindness not that the lady is entitled to it or the man is under any law to settle her,

That is d point am making since u said women in polygamous marriages don't get anything since there's no law protecting them.

Pls read this again

lexy2014:

What makes monogamy or polygamy either harmful or enjoyable isn't d marriage itself but d people in it. So far, u haven't been able to show how monogamy is less harmful than polygamy.
Re: NFVCB May Ban 'Bobrisky In Love' Movie Over Homosexuality by Deepfeel(m): 7:35pm On May 24, 2019
lexy2014:


Its not me who said monogamous marriages are a guarantee for rosy marriage filled with ur love. Its u who said it. U are now denying ur words.

What does this mean:


"Do women in polygamous marriage have same rights benefits, love attention, same level as women in monogamous marriage have? Does a woman in a monogamous marriage have a co wife to contend with even while the husband is dead or alive?"




Oga, y are u disowning ur words. Pls what does this mean?



When u say rights, benefits, love and attention, how's that different from being beautiful and rosy?




D question is, is this scenario obtainable in monogamous marriages?



Initially when I brought up d issue of Muslim & traditional based marriage, u were arguing & trying to use western marriage as d basis 4 judging how Muslim and traditional marriages are transacted. FYI, i didnt talk about court marriage thru out our discussion.




That is d point am making since u said women in polygamous marriages don't get anything since there's no law protecting them.

Pls read this again



Oga am not Disowneing my words, yes I will still say it again women in monogamous marriage got more benefits attention and love more than the ones in polygamous marriage, cause by oaths and vows of commitment, their husband's are under that obligation and if he does otherwise the ladies are backed by laws to press charges claim certain benefits, every law can be broken I never used the word a guarantee for a Rosy marriage , but the man is under and obligations to do that if he doesn't there are Consequence for it in favour of the lady as her rights , women in polygamous marriages have everything to loose if the man is not kind enough, robbing the woman off her human rights is what I have emphasised on all through
You asked if its obtainable it can't be 100% obtainable in all cases but 70% Obtainabilty in monogamous marriage is better than 2% or 0% of what can be obtained in polygamous marriages,
Re: NFVCB May Ban 'Bobrisky In Love' Movie Over Homosexuality by lexy2014: 7:48pm On May 24, 2019
Deepfeel:

Oga am not Disowneing my words, yes I will still say it again women in monogamous marriage got more benefits attention and love more than the ones in polygamous marriage, cause by oaths and vows of commitment, their husband's are under that obligation and if he does otherwise the ladies are backed by laws to press charges claim certain benefits, every law can be broken I never used the word a guarantee for a Rosy marriage , but the man is under and obligations to do that if he doesn't there are Consequence for it in favour of the lady as her rights , women in polygamous marriages have everything to loose if the man is not kind enough, robbing the woman off her human rights is what I have emphasised on all through
You asked if its obtainable it can't be 100% obtainable in all cases but 70% Obtainabilty in monogamous marriage is better than 2% or 0% of what can be obtained in polygamous marriages,

U don't need 2 use d word guarantee. This is enough 4 me.

"Do women in polygamous marriage have same rights benefits, love attention, same level as women in monogamous marriage have? Does a woman in a monogamous marriage have a co wife to contend with even while the husband is dead or alive?"

Also u said polygamy "violates oaths, obligations and commitment to d two people involved". How can that b so when polygamy doesn't involve 2 people in d first place? And if u saying polygamy is deficient in d area of oaths, obligations and commitment 2a marriage, u obviously saying that monogamy doesn't violate oaths, obligations and commitments. That means guarantee except we are using two different dictionaries. B4 u start veering into divorce& its benefits, then what are d "oaths, obligations and commitments" in marriage? Is it during d marriage that couples fulfil their "oaths, obligations and commitments" or after divorce?

D fact is u are mixing up a lot of things, going round in circles but still ending up in d same place which is that monogamous marriage isn't better than polygamy. Cos all d wahala u say are in polygamy are also present in monogamy.

U are giving figures. How did u arrive at ur figures?
Re: NFVCB May Ban 'Bobrisky In Love' Movie Over Homosexuality by Eagleword14(f): 8:03pm On May 24, 2019
Disgusting sight!
I wonder why d society keeps encouraging immorality.
Re: NFVCB May Ban 'Bobrisky In Love' Movie Over Homosexuality by Deepfeel(m): 8:55pm On May 24, 2019
lexy2014:


U don't need 2 use d word guarantee. This is enough 4 me.

"Do women in polygamous marriage have same rights benefits, love attention, same level as women in monogamous marriage have? Does a woman in a monogamous marriage have a co wife to contend with even while the husband is dead or alive?"

Also u said polygamy "violates oaths, obligations and commitment to d two people involved". How can that b so when polygamy doesn't involve 2 people in d first place? And if u saying polygamy is deficient in d area of oaths, obligations and commitment 2a marriage, u obviously saying that monogamy doesn't violate oaths, obligations and commitments. That means guarantee except we are using two different dictionaries. B4 u start veering into divorce& its benefits, then what are d "oaths, obligations and commitments" in marriage? Is it during d marriage that couples fulfil their "oaths, obligations and commitments" or after divorce?

D fact is u are mixing up a lot of things, going round in circles but still ending up in d same place which is that monogamous marriage isn't better than polygamy. Cos all d wahala u say are in polygamy are also present in monogamy.

U are giving figures. How did u arrive at ur figures?

Yes I said a woman in a monogamous marriage, don't have same level of rights don't miss the words her human rights attention and love as a woman in polygamous do cause she's not the only wife, she has no claims of ownership or whats so ever the case may be whether the man is alive or dead,
And polygamy doesn't involve two people but in most cases startes from two people 90% of men never married two women at once they started with one then later brought another, violating the first woman's rights
Yes and I am saying polygamy deficient in areas of oaths, obligations, commitments, in protecting a woman's rights benefits and self worth against her husband and the other woman that might be involved, am not mixing anything up I still go with monogamy is better than polygamy and the walahala's might be the same but one has the power to tackle it and come out with gain the other doesn't have the legal power at all
And it's by these facts I came up with the 70% 2% 0% figures, and am repeating what I have been trying to point at right from the beginning
Re: NFVCB May Ban 'Bobrisky In Love' Movie Over Homosexuality by lexy2014: 9:27pm On May 24, 2019
Deepfeel:

Yes I said a woman in a monogamous marriage, don't have same level of rights don't miss the words her human rights attention and love as a woman in polygamous do cause she's not the only wife, she has no claims of ownership or whats so ever the case may be whether the man is alive or dead,
And polygamy doesn't involve two people but in most cases startes from two people 90% of men never married two women at once they started with one then later brought another, violating the first woman's rights
Yes and I am saying polygamy deficient in areas of oaths, obligations, commitments, in protecting a woman's rights benefits and self worth against her husband and the other woman that might be involved, am not mixing anything up I still go with monogamy is better than polygamy and the walahala's might be the same but one has the power to tackle it and come out with gain the other doesn't have the legal power at all
And it's by these facts I came up with the 70% 2% 0% figures, and am repeating what I have been trying to point at right from the beginning


When u use figures, then u saying u did a research which its findings have been validated by other researchers in d field of study. So pls which research did u do?

U still denying ur words, editing & trying to explain. Ur words speak 4 themselves so there's no need 4 all this ur damage control. U have said what needs 2b said. All this u are writing now is medicine after death.

What do u mean by "human rights attention"? Or did u miss a punctuation? U are trying too hard. Don't bother. U can't change what u have written. Everything is there.

Deepfeel:

she has no claims of ownership or whats so ever the case may be whether the man is alive or dead,
Don't u no what a will is? Haven't u seen where a will is executed? So what do u mean by she has no claim? U are just talking theory& imagination. A man can b married 2a woman in a monogamous way and still exempt her from his will. A man might b married to several women& name all of them as beneficiaries in his will. I gave u d case of Abiola. Did u ever hear his wives fight over property since he died in 1998? Do u no how that was made possible? U probably haven't seen widows being forced to forfeit their property cos of pressure from their In-laws. So what are u talking about?

Deepfeel:

Yes I said a woman in a monogamous marriage, don't have same level of rights don't miss the words her human rights attention and love as a woman in polygamous do cause she's not the only wife
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That is y I asked u since Anita was Chris oyakhilomens only wife, which of her human rights was she deprived of that made her divorce him? Since Angelina jolie was an only wife, which love and attention did she not get from brad Pitt that made her divorce him? So we are back 2 square1 were u are doing everything u can to exalt monogamy but u end showing it doesn't guarantee much.

Deepfeel:


Yes and I am saying polygamy deficient in areas of oaths, obligations, commitments, in protecting a woman's rights benefits and self worth against her husband and the other woman that might be involved, am not mixing anything up

U really really mixing up a lot of things.
I asked u a few questions b4 but u couldn't answer. What is a woman's self worth& value? What are oaths, obligations and commitments? When do a couple fulfil their oaths, obligations and commitment? Is it during d marriage or after divorce? Let's b sure we are on d same page.

Deepfeel:


And polygamy doesn't involve two people but in most cases startes from two people 90% of men never married two women at once they started with one then later brought another, violating the first woman's rights

Now I asked u, if a muslim man decides to practice polygamy based on his religious orientation, how has that violated oaths, obligations and commitments? If a man decides to practice polygamy based on his traditional orientation, how has that violated his oaths, obligations and commitments? How does practicing polygamy based on Islamic teachings and traditional upbringing violate a woman's rights? Like d case of Abiola, how were d rights of Simbiat Abiola violated?
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lexy2014:


When u use figures, then u saying u did a research which its findings have been validated by other researchers in d field of study. So pls which research did u do?

U still denying ur words, editing & trying to explain. Ur words speak 4 themselves so there's no need 4 all this ur damage control. U have said what needs 2b said. All this u are writing now is medicine after death.

What do u mean by "human rights attention"? Or did u miss a punctuation? U are trying too hard. Don't bother. U can't change what u have written. Everything is there.


Don't u no what a will is? Haven't u seen where a will is executed? So what do u mean by she has no claim? U are just talking theory& imagination. A man can b married 2a woman in a monogamous way and still exempt her from his will. A man might b married to several women& name all of them as beneficiaries in his will. I gave u d case of Abiola. Did u ever hear his wives fight over property since he died in 1998? Do u no how that was made possible? U probably haven't seen widows being forced to forfeit their property cos of pressure from their In-laws. So what are u talking about?

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That is y I asked u since Anita was Chris oyakhilomens only wife, which of her human rights was she deprived of that made her divorce him? Since Angelina jolie was an only wife, which love and attention did she not get from brad Pitt that made her divorce him? So we are back 2 square1 were u are doing everything u can to exalt monogamy but u end showing it doesn't guarantee much.



U really really mixing up a lot of things.
I asked u a few questions b4 but u couldn't answer. What is a woman's self worth& value? What are oaths, obligations and commitments? When do a couple fulfil their oaths, obligations and commitment? Is it during d marriage or after divorce? Let's b sure we are on d same page.



Now I asked u, if a muslim man decides to practice polygamy based on his religious orientation, how has that violated oaths, obligations and commitments? If a man decides to practice polygamy based on his traditional orientation, how has that violated his oaths, obligations and commitments? How does practicing polygamy based on Islamic teachings and traditional upbringing violate a woman's rights? Like d case of Abiola, how were d rights of Simbiat Abiola violated?
All you have done from the beginning of these discussion is ask repeated questions which I have answered repeatedly almost all, with enough reasons points which clearly shows why monogamy is far better than polygamy, all you have done so far is read false meanings to my points, and those you can't read false meanings to you chip in a word that wasn't used by me to help you read a clear false meaning,
You haven't made any single point in your defense why polygamy is equal to or even better than monogamy, evey question you have asked I have given answers to with explanations, take your time to read them all and put into consideration stop cutting out few words from my long comments to make it sound like that's all I said
Am done my points are made and explained you made none explained none, stop wasting my time with repeated questions the answers are already there, thank you
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Deepfeel:

All you have done from the beginning of these discussion is ask repeated questions which I have answered repeatedly almost all, with enough reasons points which clearly shows why monogamy is far better than polygamy, all you have done so far is read false meanings to my points, and those you can't read false meanings to you chip in a word that wasn't used by me to help you read a clear false meaning,
You haven't made any single point in your defense why polygamy is equal to or even better than monogamy, evey question you have asked I have given answers to with explanations, take your time to read them all and put into consideration stop cutting out few words from my long comments to make it sound like that's all I said
Am done my points are made and explained you made none explained none, stop wasting my time with repeated questions the answers are already there, thank you

One of d beauty of nairaland is that u can always extract a previous comment or portions of a previous and add it to a comment u are making. I have done that several times. Let me show u an example.

lexy2014:

Now I asked u, if a muslim man decides to practice polygamy based on his religious orientation, how has that violated oaths, obligations and commitments? If a man decides to practice polygamy based on his traditional orientation, how has that violated his oaths, obligations and commitments? How does practicing polygamy based on Islamic teachings and traditional upbringing violate a woman's rights? Like d case of Abiola, how were d rights of Simbiat Abiola violated?

Can u pls produce ur answers 2d above questions in ur previous posts?

lexy2014:

That is y I asked u since Anita was Chris oyakhilomens only wife, which of her human rights was she deprived of that made her divorce him? Since Angelina jolie was an only wife, which love and attention did she not get from brad Pitt that made her divorce him? So we are back 2 square1 were u are doing everything u can to exalt monogamy but u end showing it doesn't guarantee much.

These are another set. I have asked u this several times. All u have done is to dodge d questions. But since u say answered them, pls reproduce d answers u said u gave.

lexy2014:

U really really mixing up a lot of things.
I asked u a few questions b4 but u couldn't answer. What is a woman's self worth& value? What are oaths, obligations and commitments? When do a couple fulfil their oaths, obligations and commitment? Is it during d marriage or after divorce? Let's b sure we are on d same page.

There's what is called conceptual clarification. U have engaged d use of certain concepts like oath, obligation, commitment, woman's self worth and on several occasions, I have asked u to clarify what u meant. All u did was to gloss over them. Again, since u said adequately provided d answers, pls reproduce from ur previous posts where u clarified d meaning of these concepts.

lexy2014:

Don't u no what a will is? Haven't u seen where a will is executed? So what do u mean by she has no claim? U are just talking theory& imagination. A man can b married 2a woman in a monogamous way and still exempt her from his will. A man might b married to several women& name all of them as beneficiaries in his will. I gave u d case of Abiola. Did u ever hear his wives fight over property since he died in 1998? Do u no how that was made possible? U probably haven't seen widows being forced to forfeit their property cos of pressure from their In-laws. So what are u talking about?

Don't u have any more words u can use to discredit d issue of will considering that u said this about women in polygamous marriages?

Deepfeel:

she has no claims of ownership or whats so ever the case may be whether the man is alive or dead,

Lastly, u manufactured figures from only God knows where and u said they are results of ur research. If that is d case, then d point I made below ought not to give u a fright. Can u pls do d needful? Cos if u don't it will mean that if u could manufacture imaginary figures cos u wanted buttress ur point, then d points u made are also imaginary casting doubts on d credibility of everything u have said on this subject.

lexy2014:

When u use figures, then u saying u did a research which its findings have been validated by other researchers in d field of study. So pls which research did u do?

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