Welcome, Guest: Register On Nairaland / LOGIN! / Trending / Recent / New
Stats: 3,155,928 members, 7,828,223 topics. Date: Wednesday, 15 May 2024 at 06:43 AM

Pornography Viewers Commit No Sin Before God Unless They Lust After The Flesh - Religion (2) - Nairaland

Nairaland Forum / Nairaland / General / Religion / Pornography Viewers Commit No Sin Before God Unless They Lust After The Flesh (3414 Views)

Christians Must Not Do Different Styles In Bed, It Is A Sin Before God – Pastor / Is Homosexuality A Sin Before God? / If You Lust After A Woman Or Man In Your Heart You Have Fornicated (2) (3) (4)

(1) (2) (3) (Reply) (Go Down)

Re: Pornography Viewers Commit No Sin Before God Unless They Lust After The Flesh by PrincewithGod(m): 2:25pm On Aug 15, 2019
Love4God:
Let me explain what i am directed by the Holy Spirit to say.
If you hear that the pastor of a church,president,Governor or senator in Nigeria was caught having sex and the sextape has been leaked if you don't go to download the video to watch it how would you know that it is what really happened if no genuine Christian watches the video how can we just rely on hear say and begin to say it is the truth (in this modern world of technology ).
I am a security agent and I have a case with me now( sextape video of a girl and a boy who were having sex before the boy died and the girl says it was not her who killed him leaving us with only the sextape video of about 15 minutes 21 seconds to prove her innocence. Is there anything wrong with watching that semi or full porn sextape video as a genuine Christian just to prove her innocent or guity).
What if there is a sextape video of the COZA scandal do you think that the body set up by the church won't watch the video either collectively or individually inorder to help give a just judgment on the matter.
Watching pornography is not a sin but those who act pornography or deliberately release their sextape videos on the net are the one's that commit a sin before God.
It is only when i begin to want to commit fornication with the girl in the case i am handling that it can be said that i have lusted after her which is a sin before God. Merely watching the sextape video with no plans of going to commit fornication with anyone is not a sin.
Contributions are welcomed.

Stop looking for excuse to justify your love for pornography. The cases you mentioned above might be work related. The Bible says we should flee all appearances of evil.
Re: Pornography Viewers Commit No Sin Before God Unless They Lust After The Flesh by Anas09: 3:08pm On Aug 15, 2019
Love4God:

You have from now till forever to post on this thread were it is written in the Holy Bible that Cornelius built synagogues for the Jews? I would post some bible passages below this comment that would answer a lot of your questions. The Ethiopian eunuch was trying to understand the scriptures before Phillip met him and explained the scriptures to him and that was how he (the Ethiopian eunuch) believed and was baptized and became a christian convert. Please try to type words correctly and use punctuations were necessary to avoid your message being misunderstood by any reader, i can't understand what you mean by wngrafted, preventing a prostitute e.t.c.
You are asking,Why will the Evangelist go out alone in the fist place?

Did he ever see in the scriptures where the Master sent disciples alone out for evangelism?
So you must have an evangelism partner with you before you go to evangelise in your streets, in your compound (if you have neighbours) or in your office?
So because Jesus never called his disciples with a phone to send them to go for evangelism no person should call church members to send or remember them to go for evangelism?
I use a phone and most times I type and when I space autocorrect brigs out another word entirely. Expect that you'd dwell on the contents of what I'm saying not the typological errors. That's is petty to say the least.

Who said anything abt Jesus calling anyone on phone?
Did you read the passage I posted?

Oga, if you a Christian you ought to.follow Jesus not diverse your own means.

Luke 7:2-5 And a certain centurion's servant, who was dear unto him, was sick, and ready to die.
And when he heard of Jesus, he sent unto him the elders of the Jews, beseeching him that he would come and heal his servant.
And when they came to Jesus, they besought him instantly, saying, That he was worthy for whom he should do this:
For he loveth our nation, and he hath built us a synagogue.

Take time to do in-depth study, you see that that certain Centurion was Cornelius.


Acts 8:27 And he arose and went: and, behold, a man of Ethiopia, an eunuch of great authority under Candace queen of the Ethiopians, who had the charge of all her treasure, and had ~~~come to Jerusalem for to worship~~~,

The Eunuch came to Jerusalem to worship who oe what?

I'm waiting for the passages that mandates you to go out alone for evangelism, especially to a LovePeddler house.
Re: Pornography Viewers Commit No Sin Before God Unless They Lust After The Flesh by Nobody: 3:17pm On Aug 15, 2019
Anas09:

Sir, the question is 'Why' did you watch it?

Motive. Did you watch it because it's sex tape or as an evidence?
Why i watched it is not the issue?
Is it a sin to watch it that is the issue? Which i say no
So if someone watches a video of people singing cult songs have that person committed a sin? My answer is no .
It is only when that person imagines him or her self becoming a part of that cult group that is when they have committed a sin in their heart already before God.
Don't mistake someone who is imagining to masturbate in their presence alone ,having sexual intercourse with their legitimate spouse, watching amateur or professional pornography alone or with their legitimate spouse
" for"
someone who is imagining to go and masturbate in the presence of another individual that is not a legitimate spouse or commit fornication or adultery with them or someone that is imagining to record their sexcapades with someone they are not married to.
The watchers of amateur or professional pornography commit no sin as long as they don't look with a lustful intent (imagining to commit fornication,homosexuality,lesbianism or rape). But those who imagine or engage in the act of "pre or extra marital "amateur pornography or professional pornography are the one's who commit a sin in their heart and also commit the sin of fornication or adultery.
If your spouse stimulates (masturbates) you before sex so you people have committed a sin in your own view ?
So in your own view Christian couples should not engage in fore play before sex?
So a woman or man can stimulate or rub her husband or his wife penis or vagina before sex but a man can't rub or stimulate himself when he is alone whether he or she is married or not.
I believe you were taught biology in school so don't make it look as if i have said anything strange.
Re: Pornography Viewers Commit No Sin Before God Unless They Lust After The Flesh by Anas09: 3:36pm On Aug 15, 2019
Love4God:

Try to outline all your points under any thread you quote so that i and other readers won't stress ourselves in understanding you .
WTH? Have I been mixing Ops? Have I taken this Op to.post in another thread?

Love4God:

If he sends me or someone and you are told if you don't believe them you are on your own.
Yes, I'm on my own. Why not? People like you mess the Church up and leave us to clean your mess. You do things unscripturally, when your mess becomes obvious, we wld be the ones to bear the shit.
When you want to watch naked women for free, pretend and go with the Bible, claim you are on evangelism, go alone so that your partner won't see you salivating on their unclothedness. Why not? After all when you are caught and disgraced, the Church will bear the brunt of your stupidity.

Love4God:

If you say Jesus always sent his disciples two by two, who sent Phillip to go and speak to and baptize the Ethiopian eunuch he met on the way
This is how the Marine pastors twist scriptures to suit their errors. Was the Ethiopian Eunuch enroute or at home? If you are going to someone's home for evangelism, don't go alone except you have another motive.

Love4God:

You are asking me how can i compare a brothel with a household? Don't you know that some women live in some brothels with their children?
Just Negodu! So because prostitutes live in brotels with their children that makes the brotel comparable with Cornelius's household which was fasting and praying for the descent of the Holy Spirit?
Oga, you dey try o.

Love4God:

If i understand your questions very well that means you are saying that since it was not written that any Apostle went into the lodges of the prostitutes so evangelist should not go to brothels to preach.
Even if you'd go don't go alone in the name of God sent you. He didn't.

Love4God:

You seem to have forgotten also that the prostitutes then were mobile and not fixed.
You mean prostitutes like Rehab and her girls didn't stay in her brotel abi? You try well well.

Love4God:

Which scripture did you see temple prostitutes.
You seem to have forgotten that the early christias were never allowed to visit the Prisons to preach but today evangelist are permitted to visit the prisons to preach. So because the Bible never stated Jesus sent his disciples to preach in the Prisons now that evangelist are given the opportunity to go there and preach to the lost
Who said anything against going to prisons to preach? The rule is, don't go alone. Abi you get another thing for mind?

Love4God:

souls there you are saying they must see it were it is written in the Bible were Jesus sent his Apostles to the prisons or brothel before they go.
You were saying sextape video is different from porn and i have shown you the definition of sextape.
Amateur pornography or hardcore pornography what is the significant difference?
Be logical with your comments.
Na you sabi Oga. If your intentions are clear, go accompanied.
Don't preach pornography here sir.
Re: Pornography Viewers Commit No Sin Before God Unless They Lust After The Flesh by Anas09: 3:48pm On Aug 15, 2019
Love4God:

Why i watched it is not the issue?
Is it a sin to watch it that is the issue? Which i say no
So if someone watches a video of people singing cult songs have that person committed a sin? My answer is no
Do you even know what motive is?

All you're doing here is trying to convince yourself that watching pornagraphy is not a sin. It's not enough that you watch it, you want people to applaud you for it.

Love4God:

It is only when that person imagines him or her self becoming a part of that cult group that is when they have committed a sin in their heart already before God.
Don't mistake someone who is imagining to masturbate in their presence alone ,having sexual intercourse with their legitimate spouse, watching amateur or professional pornography alone or with their legitimate spouse
" for"
What is the relevance of this thread? It's obvious you watch porn whether or not with your spouse, why do you think it's relevant to the public?
Love4God:

someone who is imagining to go and masturbate in the presence of another individual that is not a legitimate spouse or commit fornication or adultery with them or someone that is imagining to record their sexcapades with someone they are not married to.
The watchers of amateur or professional pornography commit no sin as long as they don't look with a lustful intent (imagining to commit fornication,homosexuality,lesbianism or rape). But those who imagine or engage in the act of "pre or extra marital "amateur pornography or professional pornography are the one's who commit a sin in their heart and also commit the sin of fornication or adultery.
If your spouse stimulates (masturbates) you before sex so you people have committed a sin in your own view ?
What is the relevance of this to a Christian community?
Love4God:

So in your own view Christian couples should not engage in fore play before sex?
Gradually, you are moving towards the motive why you opened this thread. You and your spouse watch porn but wants validation that is right. Lol.
Who cares what you and your madam do inside your house?
Love4God:

So a woman or man can stimulate or rub her husband or his wife penis or vagina before sex but a man can't rub or stimulate himself when he is alone whether he or she is married or not.
I believe you were taught biology in school so don't make it look as if i have said anything strange.

This is it. I said it. It's hard to pretend for long. Your true color is coming out.

Keep going.
Re: Pornography Viewers Commit No Sin Before God Unless They Lust After The Flesh by Nobody: 4:01pm On Aug 15, 2019
Anas09:

I use a phone and most times I type and when I space autocorrect brigs out another word entirely. Expect that you'd dwell on the contents of what I'm saying not the typological errors. That's is petty to say the least.

Who said anything abt Jesus calling anyone on phone?
Did you read the passage I posted?

Oga, if you a Christian you ought to.follow Jesus not diverse your own means.

Luke 7:2-5 And a certain centurion's servant, who was dear unto him, was sick, and ready to die.
And when he heard of Jesus, he sent unto him the elders of the Jews, beseeching him that he would come and heal his servant.
And when they came to Jesus, they besought him instantly, saying, That he was worthy for whom he should do this:
For he loveth our nation, and he hath built us a synagogue.

Take time to do in-depth study, you see that that certain Centurion was Cornelius.


Acts 8:27 And he arose and went: and, behold, a man of Ethiopia, an eunuch of great authority under Candace queen of the Ethiopians, who had the charge of all her treasure, and had ~~~come to Jerusalem for to worship~~~,

The Eunuch came to Jerusalem to worship who oe what?
L
I'm waiting for the passages that mandates you to go out alone for evangelism, especially to a LovePeddler house.

Everyone's phone does that it is your duty to correct it before posting your message if you type bringing where you want to type "but" how do you expect me or other readers to assume and not be misinformed by your comment.I partly believe that you are impatient in typing. I rather not post a comment than post one with alot of typographical and punctuational errors. Even this comment i have quoted has a lot of the errors i am talking about.
Be patient let me post the scriptures for you.
The centurion you mentioned in this your post i quoted is different from Cornelius the centurion.
Jesus Christ died before Cornelius the centurion that i am talking was baptized and converted to Christianity.
You seem not to have read were i stated that when Peter came back from Cornelius the centurion's place Apostle Paul (whom also gave his life to Christ after Christ had died and resurrected ) confronted Peter face to face.
They were many centurions then so if Cornelius's name was not mentioned in the Bible prior to the time he encountered Peter why do you want people to believe that it was him and not any other centurion.
The scripture you quoted has nothing to do with were Phillip met and accosted him.
The Ethiopian eunuch came to Jerusalem to worship in the way of the scribes and Pharisees not as a Christian that was why when Phillip asked him if he understood what he was reading (the scriptures) the Ethiopian eunuch answered him no.
Phillip then took the opportunity and taught him the gospel of Jesus Christ, the Ethiopian eunuch believed and asked to be baptized.
Be patient i will post the scriptures.Prior to when i post the scriptures you can search and read about the man Appolos in the Bible how he only taught the gospel of John the baptist until he met Aquilla and Priscilla (husband and wife) who taught him the gospel of Jesus Christ
Re: Pornography Viewers Commit No Sin Before God Unless They Lust After The Flesh by Nobody: 4:04pm On Aug 15, 2019
Anas09:

I use a phone and most times I type and when I space autocorrect brigs out another word entirely. Expect that you'd dwell on the contents of what I'm saying not the typological errors. That's is petty to say the least.

Who said anything abt Jesus calling anyone on phone?
Did you read the passage I posted?

Oga, if you a Christian you ought to.follow Jesus not diverse your own means.

Luke 7:2-5 And a certain centurion's servant, who was dear unto him, was sick, and ready to die.
And when he heard of Jesus, he sent unto him the elders of the Jews, beseeching him that he would come and heal his servant.
And when they came to Jesus, they besought him instantly, saying, That he was worthy for whom he should do this:
For he loveth our nation, and he hath built us a synagogue.

Take time to do in-depth study, you see that that certain Centurion was Cornelius.


Acts 8:27 And he arose and went: and, behold, a man of Ethiopia, an eunuch of great authority under Candace queen of the Ethiopians, who had the charge of all her treasure, and had ~~~come to Jerusalem for to worship~~~,

The Eunuch came to Jerusalem to worship who oe what?
L
I'm waiting for the passages that mandates you to go out alone for evangelism, especially to a LovePeddler house.

Everyone's phone does that it is your duty to correct it before posting your message if you type bringing where you want to type "but" how do you expect me or other readers to assume and not be misinformed by your comment.I partly believe that you are impatient in typing. I rather not post a comment than post one with alot of typographical and punctuational errors. Even this comment i have quoted has a lot of the errors i am talking about.
Be patient let me post the scriptures for you.
The centurion you mentioned in this your post i quoted is different from Cornelius the centurion.
Jesus Christ died before Cornelius the centurion that i am talking was baptized and converted to Christianity.
You seem not to have read were i stated that when Peter came back from Cornelius the centurion's place Apostle Paul (whom also gave his life to Christ after Christ had died and resurrected ) confronted Peter face to face.
They were many centurions then so if Cornelius's name was not mentioned in the Bible prior to the time he encountered Peter why do you want people to believe that it was him and not any other centurion.
The scripture you quoted has nothing to do with were Phillip met and accosted him.
The Ethiopian eunuch came to Jerusalem to worship in the way of the scribes and Pharisees not as a Christian that was why when Phillip asked him if he understood what he was reading (the scriptures) the Ethiopian eunuch answered him no.
Phillip then took the opportunity and taught him the gospel of Jesus Christ, the Ethiopian eunuch believed and asked to be baptized.
Be patient i will post the scriptures.Prior to when i post the scriptures you can search and read about the man Appolos in the Bible how he only taught the gospel of John the baptist until he met Aquilla and Priscilla (husband and wife) who taught him the gospel of Jesus Christ .
Re: Pornography Viewers Commit No Sin Before God Unless They Lust After The Flesh by Nobody: 4:25pm On Aug 15, 2019
PrincewithGod:

Stop looking for excuse to justify your love for pornography. The cases you mentioned above might be work related. The Bible says we should flee all appearances of evil.

What do you mean by "love for"?
Whether or not it might be work related or not the issue is that watching or looking at amateur or professional pornography is not a sin.
Do you think if the COZA case had a sex tape (amateur) pornography video it would not be watched by the church bodies that would be set up to investigate the allegations levied against the COZA pastor (Biodun) ?
Do you think if i were told to smoke as a part of my duties that i would? My answer is no but merely watching a CCTV video tendered as evidence or movie of people smoking before someone died in the CCTV video footage or movie is not a sin.
It is those who imagine in their heart that they want to go and smoke or go and smoke after watching the video footage or movie that have committed sin.
Re: Pornography Viewers Commit No Sin Before God Unless They Lust After The Flesh by Anas09: 4:28pm On Aug 15, 2019
Love4God:

Everyone's phone does that it is your duty to correct it before posting your message if you type bringing where you want to type "but" how do you expect me or other readers to assume and not be misinformed by your comment.I partly believe that you are impatient in typing. I rather not post a comment than post one with alot of typographical and punctuational errors. Even this comment i have quoted has a lot of the errors i am talking about.
Congrats for being so good at picking out errors. That's won't change the content of the Op.

Love4God:

You seem not to have read were i stated that when Peter came back from Cornelius the centurion's place Apostle Paul (whom also gave his life to Christ after Christ had died and resurrected ) confronted Peter face to face.
They were many centurions then so if Cornelius's name was not mentioned in the Bible prior to the time he encountered Peter why do you want people to believe that it was him and not any other centurion.
Where is the passage? Do well to relate that Peter just came from Cornelius's house when Paul confronted him.

Love4God:

The scripture you quoted has nothing to do with were Phillip met and accosted him.
The Ethiopian eunuch came to Jerusalem to worship in the way of the scribes and Pharisees not as a Christian that was why when Phillip asked him if he understood what he was reading (the scriptures) the Ethiopian eunuch answered him no.
I never said he was a Christian. I said he was aJewish convert. He knew about Jehovah the Hebrew God hence, him reading Isaiah.
Was he in his house or enroute to Ethiopia when Jesus sent Philip to him?

Are prostitutes in brotels at their homes or not?

By all means you want to justify visiting prostitutes alone.
Anyways, some men can't do without sleeping with prostitutes, hence even when pretending to be born again, they still sneak in claiming they are on evangelism.

Love4God:

Phillip then took the opportunity and taught him the gospel of Jesus Christ, the Ethiopian eunuch believed and asked to be baptized.
Be patient i will post the scriptures.Prior to when i post the scriptures you can search and read about the man Appolos in the Bible how he only taught the gospel of John the baptist until he met Aquilla and Priscilla (husband and wife) who taught him the gospel of Jesus Christ .
I am not going to search and read anything. Post the scriptures here for all to see.

What has all you have typed here justify you going to a whorehouse alone under the pretext of evangelism?

I believe I have said enough. Stop saying what the Word did not say.
Re: Pornography Viewers Commit No Sin Before God Unless They Lust After The Flesh by Nobody: 4:48pm On Aug 15, 2019
Anas09:








Do you even know what motive is?

All you're doing here is trying to convince yourself that watching pornagraphy is not a sin. It's not enough that you watch it, you want people to applaud you for it.


What is the relevance of this thread? It's obvious you watch porn whether or not with your spouse, why do you think it's relevant to the public?

What is the relevance of this to a Christian community?

Gradually, you are moving towards the motive why you opened this thread. You and your spouse watch porn but wants validation that is right. Lol.
Who cares what you and your madam do inside your house?

This is it. I said it. It's hard to pretend for long. Your true color is coming out.


Keep going.
Post the dictionary meaning of motive not what you imagine motive to be.
You have made no logical point.
It is still you who said sextape (amateur pornography) video is not pornography until i posted the meaning of pornography .
What validation do you think that i am expecting the world to give me before i watch a sextape (amateur pornography) with my legitimate spouse.
Your comments only shows that you don't allow the Holy Spirit to direct you but wait for people to validate all your decisions or before you do what you are sent by God.
Re: Pornography Viewers Commit No Sin Before God Unless They Lust After The Flesh by Anas09: 4:59pm On Aug 15, 2019
Love4God:

Post the dictionary meaning of motive not what you imagine motive to be.
You have made no logical point.
It is still you who said sextape (amateur pornography) video is not pornography Until i posted the meaning of pornography .
What validation do you think that i am expecting the world to give me before i watch a sextape (amateur pornography) with my legitimate spouse.
Your comments only shows that you don't allow the Holy Spirit to direct you but wait for people to validate all your decisions or before you do what you are sent by God.

I see you allow the Holy Spirit to direct you into watching porn and visiting whorehouses.
Re: Pornography Viewers Commit No Sin Before God Unless They Lust After The Flesh by Nobody: 5:04pm On Aug 15, 2019
Anas09:


Congrats for being so good at picking out errors. That's won't change the content of the Op.


Where is the passage? Do well to relate that Peter just came from Cornelius's house when Paul confronted him.


I never said he was a Christian. I said he was aJewish convert. He knew about Jehovah the Hebrew God hence, him reading Isaiah.
Was he in his house or enroute to Ethiopia when Jesus sent Philip to him?

Are prostitutes in brotels at their homes or not?

By all means you want to justify visiting prostitutes alone.
Anyways, some men can't do without sleeping with prostitutes, hence even when pretending to be born again, they still sneak in claiming they are on evangelism.


I am not going to search and read anything. Post the scriptures here for all to see.

What has all you have typed here justify you going to a whorehouse alone under the pretext of evangelism?

I believe I have said enough. Stop saying what the Word did not say.
I said be patient i will post the Bible passages or you don't comprehend that?
What is the significant difference if one evangelist go in to a brothel or if they are two ?
Would the both of them cover their eyes with clothes before they go in and start preaching?
Try to be "LOGICAL "please check the meaning of the word written in capital letter don't assume.
You are only thinking of what people will say or you think that two men can't be raped or framed up by prostitutes?
Again I say unto try to be logical.
Reasonable#Reasonable#Reasonable
Re: Pornography Viewers Commit No Sin Before God Unless They Lust After The Flesh by Nobody: 5:20pm On Aug 15, 2019
Anas09:

I see you allow the Holy Spirit to direct you into watching porn and visiting whorehouses.
You said sextape video (amateur pornography) is not pornography.
If you are a genuine christian (new converts inclusive) you should not be bothered if one, two or three evangelist(s) are individually or collectively visiting whorehouses precisely brothels what should bother you is what they go there to do whether individually or collectively.
If their mission is to go and preach there individually or collectively you should not be bothered with that since they would still not tie their eyes when looking at the prostitutes.
Re: Pornography Viewers Commit No Sin Before God Unless They Lust After The Flesh by Nobody: 6:16pm On Aug 15, 2019
Anas09:


WTH? Have I been mixing Ops? Have I taken this Op to.post in another thread?


Yes, I'm on my own. Why not? People like you mess the Church up and leave us to clean your mess. You do things unscripturally, when your mess becomes obvious, we wld be the ones to bear the shit.
When you want to watch naked women for free, pretend and go with the Bible, claim you are on evangelism, go alone so that your partner won't see you salivating on their unclothedness. Why not? After all when you are caught and disgraced, the Church will bear the brunt of your stupidity.


This is how the Marine pastors twist scriptures to suit their errors. Was the Ethiopian Eunuch enroute or at home? If you are going to someone's home for evangelism, don't go alone except you have another motive.


Just Negodu! So because prostitutes live in brotels with their children that makes the brotel comparable with Cornelius's household which was fasting and praying for the descent of the Holy Spirit?
Oga, you dey try o.


Even if you'd go don't go alone in the name of God sent you. He didn't.


You mean prostitutes like Rehab and her girls didn't stay in her brotel abi? You try well well.


Who said anything against going to prisons to preach? The rule is, don't go alone. Abi you get another thing for mind?


Na you sabi Oga. If your intentions are clear, go accompanied.
Don't preach pornography here sir.
You are a vagabond lunatic anti Christ rebel and according to the Holy Bible in 1st Timothy chapter 1 vs 20 :i have delivered you unto Satan that you may learn not to blaspheme. You are the person who portrays act of stupidity and not me.
You almost made me not to reply this your illogical comment.I said quote all the comments i made in a post and say what you have to say .You not taking simple instructions makes me think i am talking to a child.
So if i go with a partner to the brothel to preach i or we won't look at the half nude girls again or we would tie our eyes before starting to preach ? God forbid.
It is how marine children and pastors argue that you are arguing with yourself now because i am not arguing with you but teaching you .I should not go on evangelism alone even if it is at the balcony of my neighbour that i stay to preach to them. You think prostitutes don't fast and pray asking God for forgiveness and the prostitute that is fasting and praying but living in a brothel having no were else to go you believe that her house can't be compared with that of Cornelius before he met Peter and was baptized .
You must have been bewitched.You are obviously a vagabond lunatic anti christ rebel .
You typed this"Even if you'd go don't go alone in the name of God sent you. He didn't."
So you are saying that he did not send Peter alone to the house of the gentile named Cornelius?
Peter was confronted face to face by Paul when he returned. I said be patient and i would post all scriptures that relates to this topic and you have decided not to be patient and wait but rather you have been quoting my comments and writing bewitched statements that supports the agenda of the fallen angels.
You typed this bewitched statement too "You mean prostitutes like Rehab and her girls didn't stay in her brotel abi? You try well well.


Who said anything against going to prisons to preach? The rule is, don't go alone. Abi you get another thing for mind?


Na you sabi Oga. If your intentions are clear, go accompanied.
Don't preach pornography here sir. "
I did not see were it is written in the Bible that rahab a but you typed" rehab "stayed in a brothel.
Even going to prisons i or any evangelist must go accompanied. Which rule? Your rule or your church rules?
Why did Peter go alone to the house of Cornelius or why did Phillip accost the Ethiopian eunuch when he was alone. If they were compulsory rules to go with an evangelism partner for evangelism why did Peter or Phillip not go in search of an evangelism partner before he went into the gentile named Cornelius house or before he approached the Ethiopian eunuch respectively. Why shouldn't i preach on any topic the Holy Spirit directs me to. You are indeed a bewitched vagabond lunatic anti christ rebel.
Re: Pornography Viewers Commit No Sin Before God Unless They Lust After The Flesh by Nobody: 9:57pm On Aug 15, 2019
Anas09:

I use a phone and most times I type and when I space autocorrect brigs out another word entirely. Expect that you'd dwell on the contents of what I'm saying not the typological errors. That's is petty to say the least.

Who said anything abt Jesus calling anyone on phone?
Did you read the passage I posted?

Oga, if you a Christian you ought to.follow Jesus not diverse your own means.

Luke 7:2-5 And a certain centurion's servant, who was dear unto him, was sick, and ready to die.
And when he heard of Jesus, he sent unto him the elders of the Jews, beseeching him that he would come and heal his servant.
And when they came to Jesus, they besought him instantly, saying, That he was worthy for whom he should do this:
For he loveth our nation, and he hath built us a synagogue.

Take time to do in-depth study, you see that that certain Centurion was Cornelius.


Acts 8:27 And he arose and went: and, behold, a man of Ethiopia, an eunuch of great authority under Candace queen of the Ethiopians, who had the charge of all her treasure, and had ~~~come to Jerusalem for to worship~~~,

The Eunuch came to Jerusalem to worship who oe what?

I'm waiting for the passages that mandates you to go out alone for evangelism, especially to a LovePeddler house.

This is the story of the Conversion of Cornelius and how Peter even though he went with brethren from joppa the fact still remains that it was not permitted for Peter to keep company or have anything to do with a Gentile
because the Jews of that time saw Gentiles as people who were worse than prostitutes and murderers as stated
in verse 28 of Acts chapter 10 and that was why he was confronted by Paul. (28.And he said unto them, Ye know how that it is an unlawful thing for a man that is a Jew to keep company, or come unto one of another nation; but God hath shewed me that I should not call any man common or unclean).
Acts chapter 10 vs 1 to the end.
1.There was a certain man in Cæsarea called Cornelius, a centurion of the band called the Italian band,
2.a devout man, and one that feared God with all his house, which gave much alms to the people, and prayed to God alway.
3.He saw in a vision evidently about the ninth hour of the day an angel of God coming in to him, and saying unto him, Cornelius. 4.And when he looked on him, he was afraid, and said, What is it, Lord? And he said unto him, Thy prayers and thine alms are come up for a memorial before God.
5.And now send men to Joppa, and call for one Simon, whose surname is Peter:
6.he lodgeth with one Simon a tanner, whose house is by the sea side: he shall tell thee what thou oughtest to do.
7.And when the angel which spake unto Cornelius was departed, he called two of his household servants, and a devout soldier of them that waited on him continually;
8.and when he had declared all these things unto them, he sent them to Joppa.

9.On the morrow, as they went on their journey, and drew nigh unto the city, Peter went up upon the housetop to pray about the sixth hour:
10.and he became very hungry, and would have eaten: but while they made ready, he fell into a trance,
11.and saw heaven opened, and a certain vessel descending unto him, as it had been a great sheet knit at the four corners, and let down to the earth:
12.wherein were all manner of fourfooted beasts of the earth, and wild beasts, and creeping things, and fowls of the air. 13.And there came a voice to him, Rise, Peter; kill, and eat.
14.But Peter said, Not so, Lord; for I have never eaten any thing that is common or unclean.
15.And the voice spake unto him again the second time, What God hath cleansed, that call not thou common.
16.This was done thrice: and the vessel was received up again into heaven.

17.Now while Peter doubted in himself what this vision which he had seen should mean, behold, the men which were sent from Cornelius had made enquiry for Simon's house, and stood before the gate, 18.and called, and asked whether Simon, which was surnamed Peter, were lodged there.
19.While Peter thought on the vision, the Spirit said unto him, Behold, three men seek thee.
20.Arise therefore, and get thee down, and go with them, doubting nothing: for I have sent them.
21.Then Peter went down to the men which were sent unto him from Cornelius; and said, Behold, I am he whom ye seek: what is the cause wherefore ye are come?
22.And they said, Cornelius the centurion, a just man, and one that feareth God, and of good report among all the nation of the Jews, was warned from God by an holy angel to send for thee into his house, and to hear words of thee.
23.Then called he them in, and lodged them. And on the morrow Peter went away with them, and certain brethren from Joppa accompanied him.

24.And the morrow after they entered into Cæsarea. And Cornelius waited for them, and had called together his kinsmen and near friends.
25.And as Peter was coming in, Cornelius met him, and fell down at his feet, and worshipped him.
26.But Peter took him up, saying, Stand up; I myself also am a man.
27.And as he talked with him, he went in, and found many that were come together.
28.And he said unto them, Ye know how that it is an unlawful thing for a man that is a Jew to keep company, or come unto one of another nation; but God hath shewed me that I should not call any man common or unclean.
29.Therefore came I unto you without gainsaying, as soon as I was sent for: I ask therefore for what intent ye have sent for me?
30.And Cornelius said, Four days ago I was fasting until this hour; and at the ninth hour I prayed in my house, and, behold, a man stood before me in bright clothing,
31.and said, Cornelius, thy prayer is heard, and thine alms are had in remembrance in the sight of God.
32.Send therefore to Joppa, and call hither Simon, whose surname is Peter; he is lodged in the house of one Simon a tanner by the sea side: who, when he cometh, shall speak unto thee. 33.Immediately therefore I sent to thee; and thou hast well done that thou art come. Now therefore are we all here present before God, to hear all things that are commanded thee of God.

34.Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons:
35.but in every nation he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him.
36.The word which God sent unto the children of Israel, preaching peace by Jesus Christ: (he is Lord of allsmiley
37.that word, I say, ye know, which was published throughout all Judæa, and began from Galilee, after the baptism which John preached;
38.how God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him.
39.And we are witnesses of all things which he did both in the land of the Jews, and in Jerusalem; whom they slew and hanged on a tree:
40.him God raised up the third day, and shewed him openly;
41.not to all the people, but unto witnesses chosen before of God, even to us, who did eat and drink with him after he rose from the dead.
42.And he commanded us to preach unto the people, and to testify that it is he which was ordained of God to be the Judge of quick and dead.
43.To him give all the prophets witness, that through his name whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins.
44.While Peter yet spake these words, the Holy Ghost fell on all them which heard the word.
45.And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost.
46.For they heard them speak with tongues, and magnify God. Then answered Peter, 47.Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we?
48.And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. Then prayed they him to tarry certain days.
PAUL CONFRONTS PETER FOR EATING WITH THE GENTILES AS SEEN BELOW IN GALATIANS 2 vs 11 TO THE END.
11.But when Peter was come to Antioch, I withstood him to the face, because he was to be blamed.
12.For before that certain came from James, he did eat with the Gentiles: but when they were come, he withdrew and separated himself, fearing them which were of the circumcision.
13.And the other Jews dissembled likewise with him; insomuch that Barnabas also was carried away with their dissimulation.
14.But when I saw that they walked not uprightly according to the truth of the gospel, I said unto Peter before them all, If thou, being a Jew, livest after the manner of Gentiles, and not as do the Jews, why compellest thou the Gentiles to live as do the Jews?

15.We who are Jews by nature, and not sinners of the Gentiles,
16.knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.
17.But if, while we seek to be justified by Christ, we ourselves also are found sinners, is therefore Christ the minister of sin? God forbid.
18.For if I build again the things which I destroyed, I make myself a transgressor.
19.For I through the law am dead to the law, that I might live unto God.
20.I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.
21.I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.
Re: Pornography Viewers Commit No Sin Before God Unless They Lust After The Flesh by Nobody: 10:37pm On Aug 15, 2019
PETER INTERVIEWED BY THE APOSTLES AND BRETHEN BECAUSE THEY HEARD THAT HE ATE AND ALSO PREACHED TO THE GENTILES .READ ACTS 11 VS I TO THE END WRITTEN BELOW.
1.And the apostles and brethren that were in Judæa heard that the Gentiles had also received the word of God.
2.And when Peter was come up to Jerusalem, they that were of the circumcision contended with him,
3.saying, Thou wentest in to men uncircumcised, and didst eat with them.
4.But Peter rehearsed the matter from the beginning, and expounded it by order unto them, saying,
5.I was in the city of Joppa praying: and in a trance I saw a vision, A certain vessel descend, as it had been a great sheet, let down from heaven by four corners; and it came even to me: 6.upon the which when I had fastened mine eyes, I considered, and saw fourfooted beasts of the earth, and wild beasts, and creeping things, and fowls of the air.
7.And I heard a voice saying unto me, Arise, Peter; slay and eat.
8.But I said, Not so, Lord: for nothing common or unclean hath at any time entered into my mouth.
9.But the voice answered me again from heaven, What God hath cleansed, that call not thou common.
10.And this was done three times: and all were drawn up again into heaven.
11.And, behold, immediately there were three men already come unto the house where I was, sent from Cæsarea unto me. 12.And the Spirit bade me go with them, nothing doubting. Moreover these six brethren accompanied me, and we entered into the man's house:
13.and he shewed us how he had seen an angel in his house, which stood and said unto him, Send men to Joppa, and call for Simon, whose surname is Peter;
14.who shall tell thee words, whereby thou and all thy house shall be saved.
15.And as I began to speak, the Holy Ghost fell on them, as on us at the beginning.
16.Then remembered I the word of the Lord, how that he said, John indeed baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost.
17.Forasmuch then as God gave them the like gift as he did unto us, who believed on the Lord Jesus Christ; what was I, that I could withstand God?
18.When they heard these things, they held their peace, and glorified God, saying, Then hath God also to the Gentiles granted repentance unto life.

THE CHURCH IN ANTIOCH THE CITY WERE SAUL WHOSE NAME WAS CHANGED TO PAUL CONFRONTED PETER .

19.Now they which were scattered abroad upon the persecution that arose about Stephen travelled as far as Phenice, and Cyprus, and Antioch, preaching the word to none but unto the Jews only.
20.And some of them were men of Cyprus and Cyrene, which, when they were come to Antioch, spake unto the Grecians, preaching the Lord Jesus.
21.And the hand of the Lord was with them: and a great number believed, and turned unto the Lord.

22.Then tidings of these things came unto the ears of the church which was in Jerusalem: and they sent forth Barnabas, that he should go as far as Antioch. 23.Who, when he came, and had seen the grace of God, was glad, and exhorted them all, that with purpose of heart they would cleave unto the Lord. 24.For he was a good man, and full of the Holy Ghost and of faith: and much people was added unto the Lord.
25.Then departed Barnabas to Tarsus, for to seek Saul:
26.and when he had found him, he brought him unto Antioch. And it came to pass, that a whole year they assembled themselves with the church, and taught much people. And the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch.

27.And in these days came prophets from Jerusalem unto Antioch.
28.And there stood up one of them named Agabus, and signified by the Spirit that there should be great dearth throughout all the world: which came to pass in the days of Claudius Cæsar.
29.Then the disciples, every man according to his ability, determined to send relief unto the brethren which dwelt in Judæa:
30.Which also they did, and sent it to the elders by the hands of Barnabas and Saul.
Re: Pornography Viewers Commit No Sin Before God Unless They Lust After The Flesh by Nobody: 11:12pm On Aug 15, 2019
If Jesus Christ sat ,ate and preached to sinners why can't an individual go alone for evangelism .
MATTHEW 9 VS 9-11
9.And as Jesus passed forth from thence, he saw a man, named Matthew, sitting at the receipt of custom: and he saith unto him, Follow me. And he arose, and followed him.

10.And it came to pass, as Jesus sat at meat in the house, behold, many publicans and sinners came and sat down with him and his disciples.
11.And when the Pharisees saw it, they said unto his disciples, Why eateth your Master with publicans and sinners?
12.But when Jesus heard that, he said unto them, They that be whole need not a physician, but they that are sick.
13.But go ye and learn what that meaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice: for I am not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.
ACTS 8 VS 4 TO 13 SHOWS THAT PHILIP WENT TO SAMARIA ALONE TO PREACH THE GOSPEL
4.Therefore they that were scattered abroad went every where preaching the word.
5.Then Philip went down to the city of Samaria, and preached Christ unto them.
6.And the people with one accord gave heed unto those things which Philip spake, hearing and seeing the miracles which he did.
7.For unclean spirits, crying with loud voice, came out of many that were possessed with them: and many taken with palsies, and that were lame, were healed. 8.And there was great joy in that city.

9.But there was a certain man, called Simon, which beforetime in the same city used sorcery, and bewitched the people of Samaria, giving out that himself was some great one:
10.to whom they all gave heed, from the least to the greatest, saying, This man is the great power of God. 11.And to him they had regard, because that of long time he had bewitched them with sorceries.
12.But when they believed Philip preaching the things concerning the kingdom of God, and the name of Jesus Christ, they were baptized, both men and women.
13.Then Simon himself believed also: and when he was baptized, he continued with Philip, and wondered, beholding the miracles and signs which were done.
Re: Pornography Viewers Commit No Sin Before God Unless They Lust After The Flesh by Nobody: 11:57pm On Aug 15, 2019
****************PHILIP AND AN ETHIOPIAN*********
PHILIP ALONE EVANGELISED TO AN ETHIOPIAN ***************** THEREAFTER THE SPIRIT OF THE LORD CAUGHT **PHILIP**AWAY ALONE AND HE WAS FOUND EVANGELISING ALONE AT AZOTUS **********************
26.And the angel of the Lord spake unto Philip, saying, Arise, and go toward the south unto the way that goeth down from Jerusalem unto Gaza, which is desert. 27.And he arose and went: and, behold, a man of Ethiopia, an eunuch of great authority under Candace queen of the Ethiopians, who had the charge of all her treasure, and had come to Jerusalem for to worshipPhilip and an Ethiopian
26.And the angel of the Lord spake unto Philip, saying, Arise, and go toward the south unto the way that goeth down from Jerusalem unto Gaza, which is desert. 27.And he arose and went: and, behold, a man of Ethiopia, an eunuch of great authority under Candace queen of the Ethiopians, who had the charge of all her treasure, and had come to Jerusalem for to worship, 28.was returning, and sitting in his chariot read Esaias the prophet.

29.Then the Spirit said unto Philip, Go near, and join thyself to this chariot.
30.And Philip ran thither to him, and heard him read the prophet Esaias, and said, Understandest thou what thou readest?
31.And he said, How can I, except some man should guide me? And he desired Philip that he would come up and sit with him.
32.The place of the scripture which he read was this,

He was led as a sheep to the slaughter;
And like a lamb dumb before his shearer,
So opened he not his mouth:
33.In his humiliation his judgment was taken away:
And who shall declare his generation?
For his life is taken from the earth.
34.And the eunuch answered Philip, and said, I pray thee, of whom speaketh the prophet this? of himself, or of some other man?

35.Then Philip opened his mouth, and began at the same scripture, and preached unto him Jesus.
36.And as they went on their way, they came unto a certain water: and the eunuch said, See, here is water; what doth hinder me to be baptized?
37.And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.
38.And he commanded the chariot to stand still: and they went down both into the water, both Philip and the eunuch; and he baptized him. 39.And when they were come up out of the water, the Spirit of the Lord caught away Philip, that the eunuch saw him no more: and he went on his way rejoicing. 40.But Philip was found at Azotus: and passing through he preached in all the cities, till he came to Cæsarea.
************ *****IF AFTER READING THESE ABOVE SCRIPTURES YOU STILL MAKE ANY COMMENT(S) THAT AN EVANGELIST MUST BE ACCOMPANIED BY AN EVANGELISM PARTNER BEFORE GOING TO ANY OF THE FOLLOWING PLACES TO EVANGELISE EITHER *********HOSPITALS,SCHOOLS,BROTHELS,PRISONS OR MARKETS THEN YOU MUST BE HAVING A BEWITCHED AND UNREPENTANT VAGABOND LUNATIC ANTI CHRIST REBEL MINDSET . *************
Re: Pornography Viewers Commit No Sin Before God Unless They Lust After The Flesh by nwosukenneth4: 12:34am On Aug 16, 2019
*You cannot sin away your salvation(eternal-life, redemption)*
this statement above is a *wrong teaching*
You never had salvation(eternal-life) at-all
*any type of sin* is a product of *the flesh(the spirit-man, I do not mean your skin or any part of your body)*
for anyone who has believed in Jesus Christ *an exchange/replacement* has occurred
His/her *flesh* has been willingly surrendered to Jesus Christ to become *crucified/dead/destroyed forever*
and
a new life *Christ Jesus* has replaced *the dead flesh* which cannot produce *sin forever* whether biologically dead or alive
after this *exchange* then Christ Jesus begins to grow as He did in Mary's womb from *conception to maturity* in fulfilling God's will on earth for any aspect or field(business, jobs, career, profession, marriage, vocation, politics, academics, research, infor-tech, sports, entertainments, ideas e.t.c that glorifies God's will) of life he wants to manifest in such a person through regular conversation/interaction/dialogue and bible studies; this is *discipleship*.
This is *a life that is livable on this earth* through *faith* anchored on grace, love and mercy not *a theory/fiction*.
it is a waste of time *trying to disciple the flesh*
Sin in a Christian is not *gradually removed*, it is done *once and forever* by the *crushing/crucifixion* of *mr-flesh who produces sin and anything in the appearance of sin*

it is also complete deceit to believe you are saved while sin is still manifesting in your *mortal-body* whether in the secret of your heart/room or in the public
it is also waste of energy trying to change 1-bad-habit while the *producer-Mr.flesh* is still *alive and active* inside you.
It is really heart-renting that *so many of us* on the street, bus, pulpit, altars, religious-pedestals are asking people *are you saved? have you given your life to Jesus Christ? have you received eternal life?* while
*they are not saved either*

This is not to condemn anybody or for any human being who is still alive in this earth to start crying now that you will go to hell-fire rather the absolute truth flowing from *his grace*
All we need to do is *use the grace of Jesus Christ now* by *surrendering our flesh to death with Jesus Christ crucifixion on the cross and receive in exchange the whole-new-life of Jesus Christ*
is it as easy as this? yes.
because it is something Jesus has already done(it is finished; John 19:30),
we just need to enter into it by *believing this grace provision* and receiving *His Life* in exchange
then He begins to live in our mortal-body just like he lived on this earth through *faith(direct internal consistent and continuous dialogue and revelational study of the Holy bible)*
thus
"My father *inside me works and I work as he does*" (John 5:17),

"Jesus gave them this answer: “Very truly I tell you, *the Son can do nothing by himself; he can do only what he sees his Father doing*, because whatever the *Father does the Son also does*. 20 For the Father loves the Son and *shows him all he does*. Yes, and he will show him even greater works than these, so that you will be amazed." (John 5:19-20),

"Don’t you believe that *I am in the Father, and that the Father is in me?* The words I say to you *I do not speak on my own authority*. Rather, it is *the Father, living in me, who is doing his work*. 11 Believe me when I say that *I am in the Father and the Father is in me*; or at least *believe on the evidence of the works themselves*." (John 14:10-11)

just like he also worked in Paul which made him to *speak from his new internal life* thus
"I have been *crucified with Christ* and *I no longer live*, but *Christ lives in me*. The *life I now live in the body, I live by faith in the Son of God*, who loved me and gave himself for me. 21 I do not *set aside/frustrate* the *grace of God*, for if righteousness could be gained through the law(what shows the weakness of the flesh without providing solution for this weakness), *Christ died for nothing*" (Gal.2:20-21)

this same life that worked in paul also was at work in peter thus
"For God, who was at work in Peter as an apostle to the circumcised, was also at work in me as an apostle to the Gentiles"

Peter also confirms that anyone who engages in this *crucifixion of the flesh and receives in exchange the life of Christ* will have the *same internal life of faith in him/her as the early believers had*
thus
"From Simon Peter, *a servant and apostle of Jesus Christ*—

To *those* who *through the righteousness of our God and Savior Jesus Christ have been given a faith as precious/equal as ours*" (2 Peter 1:1)

Jesus told those who had *believed in him* "...Jesus said to them, “I am telling you the truth: *everyone who sins is a slave of sin*. 35 A slave *does not belong to a family(household/membership of believers) permanently*, but *a son belongs there forever*. 36 If the *Son sets you free, then you will be really free*." (John 8:31-36)

"They would not have been guilty of sin if I had not come and spoken to them; as it is, *they(every human being whether you were born into Christianity or not, ordained or lay-person, rich or poor) no longer have any excuse for their sin*" (John 15:22 GNT)
you can also read Matthew 7:13-29.

Do not *set-aside/frustrate* the grace of God inside your life now, allow it to have expression/effect now.

share this *grace-filled truth* with *any/every human being you encounter on this earth as the Holy Spirit harvest/win souls for his kingdom and glory in this generation/age across every age, language, drive, color, field, profession, religion, politics, economy, society, nations e.t.c*

Great Grace Brethren!!!
Re: Pornography Viewers Commit No Sin Before God Unless They Lust After The Flesh by Nobody: 1:21am On Aug 16, 2019
nwosukenneth4:
*You cannot sin away your salvation(eternal-life, redemption)*
this statement above is a *wrong teaching*
You never had salvation(eternal-life) at-all
*any type of sin* is a product of *the flesh(the spirit-man, I do not mean your skin or any part of your body)*
for anyone who has believed in Jesus Christ *an exchange/replacement* has occurred
His/her *flesh* has been willingly surrendered to Jesus Christ to become *crucified/dead/destroyed forever*
and
a new life *Christ Jesus* has replaced *the dead flesh* which cannot produce *sin forever* whether biologically dead or alive
after this *exchange* then Christ Jesus begins to grow as He did in Mary's womb from *conception to maturity* in fulfilling God's will on earth for any aspect or field(business, jobs, career, profession, marriage, vocation, politics, academics, research, infor-tech, sports, entertainments, ideas e.t.c that glorifies God's will) of life he wants to manifest in such a person through regular conversation/interaction/dialogue and bible studies; this is *discipleship*.
This is *a life that is livable on this earth* through *faith* anchored on grace, love and mercy not *a theory/fiction*.
it is a waste of time *trying to disciple the flesh*
Sin in a Christian is not *gradually removed*, it is done *once and forever* by the *crushing/crucifixion* of *mr-flesh who produces sin and anything in the appearance of sin*

it is also complete deceit to believe you are saved while sin is still manifesting in your *mortal-body* whether in the secret of your heart/room or in the public
it is also waste of energy trying to change 1-bad-habit while the *producer-Mr.flesh* is still *alive and active* inside you.
It is really heart-renting that *so many of us* on the street, bus, pulpit, altars, religious-pedestals are asking people *are you saved? have you given your life to Jesus Christ? have you received eternal life?* while
*they are not saved either*

This is not to condemn anybody or for any human being who is still alive in this earth to start crying now that you will go to hell-fire rather the absolute truth flowing from *his grace*
All we need to do is *use the grace of Jesus Christ now* by *surrendering our flesh to death with Jesus Christ crucifixion on the cross and receive in exchange the whole-new-life of Jesus Christ*
is it as easy as this? yes.
because it is something Jesus has already done(it is finished; John 19:30),
we just need to enter into it by *believing this grace provision* and receiving *His Life* in exchange
then He begins to live in our mortal-body just like he lived on this earth through *faith(direct internal consistent and continuous dialogue and revelational study of the Holy bible)*
thus
"My father *inside me works and I work as he does*" (John 5:17),

"Jesus gave them this answer: “Very truly I tell you, *the Son can do nothing by himself; he can do only what he sees his Father doing*, because whatever the *Father does the Son also does*. 20 For the Father loves the Son and *shows him all he does*. Yes, and he will show him even greater works than these, so that you will be amazed." (John 5:19-20),

"Don’t you believe that *I am in the Father, and that the Father is in me?* The words I say to you *I do not speak on my own authority*. Rather, it is *the Father, living in me, who is doing his work*. 11 Believe me when I say that *I am in the Father and the Father is in me*; or at least *believe on the evidence of the works themselves*." (John 14:10-11)

just like he also worked in Paul which made him to *speak from his new internal life* thus
"I have been *crucified with Christ* and *I no longer live*, but *Christ lives in me*. The *life I now live in the body, I live by faith in the Son of God*, who loved me and gave himself for me. 21 I do not *set aside/frustrate* the *grace of God*, for if righteousness could be gained through the law(what shows the weakness of the flesh without providing solution for this weakness), *Christ died for nothing*" (Gal.2:20-21)

this same life that worked in paul also was at work in peter thus
"For God, who was at work in Peter as an apostle to the circumcised, was also at work in me as an apostle to the Gentiles"

Peter also confirms that anyone who engages in this *crucifixion of the flesh and receives in exchange the life of Christ* will have the *same internal life of faith in him/her as the early believers had*
thus
"From Simon Peter, *a servant and apostle of Jesus Christ*—

To *those* who *through the righteousness of our God and Savior Jesus Christ have been given a faith as precious/equal as ours*" (2 Peter 1:1)

Jesus told those who had *believed in him* "...Jesus said to them, “I am telling you the truth: *everyone who sins is a slave of sin*. 35 A slave *does not belong to a family(household/membership of believers) permanently*, but *a son belongs there forever*. 36 If the *Son sets you free, then you will be really free*." (John 8:31-36)

"They would not have been guilty of sin if I had not come and spoken to them; as it is, *they(every human being whether you were born into Christianity or not, ordained or lay-person, rich or poor) no longer have any excuse for their sin*" (John 15:22 GNT)
you can also read Matthew 7:13-29.

Do not *set-aside/frustrate* the grace of God inside your life now, allow it to have expression/effect now.

share this *grace-filled truth* with *any/every human being you encounter on this earth as the Holy Spirit harvest/win souls for his kingdom and glory in this generation/age across every age, language, drive, color, field, profession, religion, politics, economy, society, nations e.t.c*

Great Grace Brethren!!!
You point or stand as regards to this topic is not clear.
I said masturbation is not a sin ?
Viewing sextape i.e amateur pornography or professional pornography is not a sin.
If it is should we discard the sextape and charge the girl to court for murder without watching the sextape video evidence that we have ?
Lust is different from watching Amateur or professional pornography for whatever reason.
BELOW IS THE GOOGLE MEANING OF ****LUST***
****Lust is a psychological force producing intense wanting or longing for an object, or circumstance fulfilling the emotion.[1] Lust can take any form such as the lust for sexuality, love, money or power. It can take such mundane forms as the lust for food as distinct from the need for food.
Religions, especially Christianity, tend to draw a distinction between passion and lust by further categorizing lust as an inappropriate desire or a desire that is inappropriately strong, whereas passion (for proper purposes) is maintained to be something God-given and moral. *****

Inappropriately strong that is something like desiring to commit fornication,homosexualism,lesbianism or rape.
Just sitting in a private place not were anybody can see you and watching a sextape (amateur or professional pornography) alone or with one's legitimate spouse is not a sin.
Rubbing one's sexual organs by one's self or legitimate sexual partner is not a sin as long as you don't do it were people can see you or you and your spouse.
If two people have sex in the open it is immoral and a sin even if it involves an husband and wife.
Having imaginations in your heart how you would be eating a sandwich that you have not bought yet in an amusement park is not a sin.
Lusting for a sandwich that you haven't bought yet to eat in an amusement park is a sin because lusting is an inappropriate desire to get something (which iIncludes having imaginations of going to steal a sandwich or going to steal money or items in order to eat a sandwich at the amusement park.
Re: Pornography Viewers Commit No Sin Before God Unless They Lust After The Flesh by Anas09: 9:04am On Aug 16, 2019
Love4God:

You are a vagabond lunatic anti Christ rebel and according to the Holy Bible in 1st Timothy chapter 1 vs 20 :i have delivered you unto Satan that you may learn not to blaspheme. You are the person who portrays act of stupidity and not me.
You almost made me not to reply this your illogical comment.I said quote all the comments i made in a post and say what you have to say .You not taking simple instructions makes me think i am talking to a child.
So if i go with a partner to the brothel to preach i or we won't look at the half nude girls again or we would tie our eyes before starting to preach ? God forbid.
It is how marine children and pastors argue that you are arguing with yourself now because i am not arguing with you but teaching you .I should not go on evangelism alone even if it is at the balcony of my neighbour that i stay to preach to them. You think prostitutes don't fast and pray asking God for forgiveness and the prostitute that is fasting and praying but living in a brothel having no were else to go you believe that her house can't be compared with that of Cornelius before he met Peter and was baptized .
You must have been bewitched.You are obviously a vagabond lunatic anti christ rebel .
You typed this"Even if you'd go don't go alone in the name of God sent you. He didn't."
So you are saying that he did not send Peter alone to the house of the gentile named Cornelius?
Peter was confronted face to face by Paul when he returned. I said be patient and i would post all scriptures that relates to this topic and you have decided not to be patient and wait but rather you have been quoting my comments and writing bewitched statements that supports the agenda of the fallen angels.
You typed this bewitched statement too "You mean prostitutes like Rehab and her girls didn't stay in her brotel abi? You try well well.


Who said anything against going to prisons to preach? The rule is, don't go alone. Abi you get another thing for mind?


Na you sabi Oga. If your intentions are clear, go accompanied.
Don't preach pornography here sir. "
I did not see were it is written in the Bible that rahab a but you typed" rehab "stayed in a brothel.
Even going to prisons i or any evangelist must go accompanied. Which rule? Your rule or your church rules?
Why did Peter go alone to the house of Cornelius or why did Phillip accost the Ethiopian eunuch when he was alone. If they were compulsory rules to go with an evangelism partner for evangelism why did Peter or Phillip not go in search of an evangelism partner before he went into the gentile named Cornelius house or before he approached the Ethiopian eunuch respectively. Why shouldn't i preach on any topic the Holy Spirit directs me to. You are indeed a bewitched vagabond lunatic anti christ rebel.

I knew that the spirit inside of you is dark.
Re: Pornography Viewers Commit No Sin Before God Unless They Lust After The Flesh by Anas09: 9:52am On Aug 16, 2019
Love4God:

You said sextape video (amateur pornography) is not pornography.
If you are a genuine christian (new converts inclusive) you should not be bothered if one, two or three evangelist(s) are individually or collectively visiting whorehouses precisely brothels what should bother you is what they go there to do whether individually or collectively.
If their mission is to go and preach there individually or collectively you should not be bothered with that since they would still not tie their eyes when looking at the prostitutes.
Don't lie against me sir.

I didn't say a sextape is not pornography. Do you remember me mentioning the word 'MOTIVE?'

I SAID, IT IS NOT PORNOGRAPHY IF IS AN EVIDENCE TO ascertain the validity of a case.

I said, if you, a security operative watched it with the MOTIVE of investigating a crime, then it's not pornography. But if you go in search of it to watch it for the purpose of arousing your sexual urge, then it is pornography.

You then went on to ask me if it's wrong for couples to watch it or to engage in pre-intimacy. Weytin concern me with that one.

Again, oga, don't lie against me. Letters don't lie, All we typed here is viable for everyone reading to see.

You want to visit prostitutes, go ahead, your salvation is not mine.

I have indulged you long enough.
Re: Pornography Viewers Commit No Sin Before God Unless They Lust After The Flesh by Anas09: 9:53am On Aug 16, 2019
Love4God:

You said sextape video (amateur pornography) is not pornography.
If you are a genuine christian (new converts inclusive) you should not be bothered if one, two or three evangelist(s) are individually or collectively visiting whorehouses precisely brothels what should bother you is what they go there to do whether individually or collectively.
If their mission is to go and preach there individually or collectively you should not be bothered with that since they would still not tie their eyes when looking at the prostitutes.
Don't lie against me sir.

I didn't say a sextape is not pornography. Do you remember me mentioning the word 'MOTIVE?' The WHY question. Why you you did what you did.

I SAID, IT IS NOT PORNOGRAPHY IF IS AN EVIDENCE watched TO ascertain the validity of a case.

I said, if you, a security operative watched it with the MOTIVE of investigating a crime, then it's not pornography. But if you go in search of it to watch it for the purpose of arousing your sexual urge, then it is pornography.

You then went on to ask me if it's wrong for couples to watch it or to engage in pre-intimacy. Weytin concern me with that one?

Again, oga, don't lie against me. Letters don't lie, All we typed here is viable for everyone reading to see.

You want to visit prostitutes, go ahead, your salvation is not mine.

I have indulged you long enough.
Re: Pornography Viewers Commit No Sin Before God Unless They Lust After The Flesh by Shepherd00: 10:01am On Aug 16, 2019
Love4God:

What do you mean by "love for"?
Whether or not it might be work related or not the issue is that watching or looking at amateur or professional pornography ~~is not a sin~~.

Do you think if the COZA case had a sex tape (amateur) pornography video it would not be watched by the church bodies that would be set up to investigate the allegations levied against the COZA pastor (Biodun) ?
Do you think if i were told to smoke as a part of my duties that i would? My answer is no but merely watching a CCTV video tendered as evidence or movie of people smoking before someone died in the CCTV video footage or movie is not a sin.
It is those who imagine in their heart that they want to go and smoke or go and smoke after watching the video footage or movie that have committed sin.

Sir, did you just say a Christian watching pornagraphy whether work related or not, is not a sin?

in other words, if I download porn videos and watch them, it's not a sin of Lust and fornication in my heart?
Re: Pornography Viewers Commit No Sin Before God Unless They Lust After The Flesh by Shepherd00: 10:21am On Aug 16, 2019
Love4God:

You point or stand as regards to this topic is not clear.
I said masturbation is not a sin ?
Viewing sextape i.e amateur pornography or professional pornography is not a sin.
If it is should we discard the sextape and charge the girl to court for murder without watching the sextape video evidence that we have ?
Lust is different from watching Amateur or professional pornography for whatever reason.
BELOW IS THE GOOGLE MEANING OF ****LUST***
****Lust is a psychological force producing intense wanting or longing for an object, or circumstance fulfilling the emotion.[1] Lust can take any form such as the lust for sexuality, love, money or power. It can take such mundane forms as the lust for food as distinct from the need for food.
Religions, especially Christianity, tend to draw a distinction between passion and lust by further categorizing lust as an inappropriate desire or a desire that is inappropriately strong, whereas passion (for proper purposes) is maintained to be something God-given and moral. *****

Inappropriately strong that is something like desiring to commit fornication,homosexualism,lesbianism or rape.
Just sitting in a private place not were anybody can see you and watching a sextape (amateur or professional pornography) alone or with one's legitimate spouse is not a sin.
Rubbing one's sexual organs by one's self or legitimate sexual partner is not a sin as long as you don't do it were people can see you or you and your spouse.
If two people have sex in the open it is immoral and a sin even if it involves an husband and wife.
Having imaginations in your heart how you would be eating a sandwich that you have not bought yet in an amusement park is not a sin.
Lusting for a sandwich that you haven't bought yet to eat in an amusement park is a sin because lusting is an inappropriate desire to get something (which iIncludes having imaginations of going to steal a sandwich or going to steal money or items in order to eat a sandwich at the amusement park.
All these argument to justify watching pornagraphy and going alone to brotel to preach?
Re: Pornography Viewers Commit No Sin Before God Unless They Lust After The Flesh by Shepherd00: 10:31am On Aug 16, 2019
Love4God:

You point or stand as regards to this topic is not clear.
I said masturbation is not a sin ?
Viewing sextape i.e amateur pornography or professional pornography is not a sin.
If it is should we discard the sextape and charge the girl to court for murder without watching the sextape video evidence that we have ?
Lust is different from watching Amateur or professional pornography for whatever reason.
BELOW IS THE GOOGLE MEANING OF ****LUST***
****Lust is a psychological force producing intense wanting or longing for an object, or circumstance fulfilling the emotion.[1] Lust can take any form such as the lust for sexuality, love, money or power. It can take such mundane forms as the lust for food as distinct from the need for food.
Religions, especially Christianity, tend to draw a distinction between passion and lust by further categorizing lust as an inappropriate desire or a desire that is inappropriately strong, whereas passion (for proper purposes) is maintained to be something God-given and moral. *****

Inappropriately strong that is something like desiring to commit fornication,homosexualism,lesbianism or rape.
Just sitting in a private place not were anybody can see you and watching a sextape (amateur or professional pornography) alone or with one's legitimate spouse is not a sin.
Rubbing one's sexual organs by one's self or legitimate sexual partner is not a sin as long as you don't do it were people can see you or you and your spouse.
If two people have sex in the open it is immoral and a sin even if it involves an husband and wife.
Having imaginations in your heart how you would be eating a sandwich that you have not bought yet in an amusement park is not a sin.
Lusting for a sandwich that you haven't bought yet to eat in an amusement park is a sin because lusting is an inappropriate desire to get something (which iIncludes having imaginations of going to steal a sandwich or going to steal money or items in order to eat a sandwich at the amusement park.
Your teaching of Scriptures will throw a baby believer completely into confusion.

Within context, Lust here is related to sex, how then wld you bring in an example of a man who imagines himself eating a sandwich in a park? Do you know the spiritual implication of Lust?

The Master says, if you lust (sexually) in your heart, you have committed the act.

You have said outrageous things in this thread that one wld begin to wonder if there wld be any rapturable soul left if everyone were to follow your teaching here.

Why trivialize the Gospel?

Don't quote me o.
Re: Pornography Viewers Commit No Sin Before God Unless They Lust After The Flesh by OpenYourEyes1: 10:51am On Aug 16, 2019
Love4God:
Let me explain what i am directed by the Holy Spirit to say.
If you hear that the pastor of a church,president,Governor or senator in Nigeria was caught having sex and the sextape has been leaked if you don't go to download the video to watch it how would you know that it is what really happened if no genuine Christian watches the video how can we just rely on hear say and begin to say it is the truth (in this modern world of technology ).
I am a security agent and I have a case with me now( sextape video of a girl and a boy who were having sex before the boy died and the girl says it was not her who killed him leaving us with only the sextape video of about 15 minutes 21 seconds to prove her innocence. Is there anything wrong with watching that semi or full porn sextape video as a genuine Christian just to prove her innocent or guity).
What if there is a sextape video of the COZA scandal do you think that the body set up by the church won't watch the video either collectively or individually inorder to help give a just judgment on the matter.
Watching pornography is not a sin but those who act pornography or deliberately release their sextape videos on the net are the one's that commit a sin before God.
It is only when i begin to want to commit fornication with the girl in the case i am handling that it can be said that i have lusted after her which is a sin before God. Merely watching the sextape video with no plans of going to commit fornication with anyone is not a sin.
Contributions are welcomed.


You can use a video filter to blur out the unclothedness.


I think fornication does to the covering of human spirit what water does to paper box with sugar. It leaves the spirit exposed and vulnerable to predators.

This is probably why porn is forced on strong people. They want to break and attack you.
Re: Pornography Viewers Commit No Sin Before God Unless They Lust After The Flesh by Nobody: 4:59pm On Aug 16, 2019
Anas09:

I knew that the spirit inside of you is dark.
God forbid i believe you are talking to yourself.
Re: Pornography Viewers Commit No Sin Before God Unless They Lust After The Flesh by Anas09: 5:09pm On Aug 16, 2019
Love4God:

God forbid i believe you are talking to yourself.
Out of the fullness of the heart, the mouth speaks.
Re: Pornography Viewers Commit No Sin Before God Unless They Lust After The Flesh by Nobody: 5:19pm On Aug 16, 2019
Anas09:

Don't lie against me sir.

I didn't say a sextape is not pornography. Do you remember me mentioning the word 'MOTIVE?'

I SAID, IT IS NOT PORNOGRAPHY IF IS AN EVIDENCE TO ascertain the validity of a case.

I said, if you, a security operative watched it with the MOTIVE of investigating a crime, then it's not pornography. But if you go in search of it to watch it for the purpose of arousing your sexual urge, then it is pornography.

You then went on to ask me if it's wrong for couples to watch it or to engage in pre-intimacy. Weytin concern me with that one.

Again, oga, don't lie against me. Letters don't lie, All we typed here is viable for everyone reading to see.

You want to visit prostitutes, go ahead, your salvation is not mine.

I have indulged you long enough.
You need to let the Holy Spirit speak to you don't assume you know everything.
So if i watch an amateur or professional pornographic video with the aim of knowing if a pastor, Governor or president really is the one involved in the sextape (amateur ) or professional popornographic video it is
a sin or don't i,you or any other person have the right to know if a pastor, governor, president, actor or actress is the person in a pornography video.
There is a sextape video link on nairaland of a pastor in Lagos that leaked and i downloaded it to know if it was truly the pastor in that video so by downloading that video to watch and know if the pastor was actually the person in the pornographic video i have committed sin.
I would search for the link and post it below this post.
Re: Pornography Viewers Commit No Sin Before God Unless They Lust After The Flesh by Nobody: 5:37pm On Aug 16, 2019
****BELOW IS THE LEAKED SEXTAPE (AMATEUR PORNOGRAPHY )VIDEO LINK OF THE PASTOR*****
Sex Tape Of Apostle Chris Omatsola & Princess
Tamaratokoni Okpewho Leaked Online by dainformant(m): 4:46pm On Oct 17, 2018
A Nigerian pastor is currently trending on various social media platforms after his sex tape surfaced online. The Nigerian pastor and real estate guru, Apostle Chris Omatsola is embroiled in a sex tape scandal with a lady identified as Princess Tamaratokoni Okpewho.



It is alleged that the footage was leaked online by a phone repairer who posted it online, according to multiple online reports.



Apostle Chris Omatsola is the senior pastor of Zionwealth Of Life Assembly and also a real estate business tycoon in Lekki area of Lagos while Ms. Princess Tokoni Okpewho is said to be based in the same Lekki area..



Few months ago, a Pastor of the Christ Chosen Church of God known as Ngbeken Elvis, was arrested for the death of a mother of four children simply identified as Mama Sarah. Mama Sarah, aged 38, died while procuring abortion for the pregnancy she had for Pastor Elvis.



Both of them were said to have been in a secret relationship for over six months.



See more; https://www.nationalhelm.co/2018/10/apostle-chris-omatsola-sex-tape-with-princess-tamaratokoni-leaked-online.html
Re: Pornography Viewers Commit No Sin Before God Unless They Lust After The Flesh by Nobody: 6:10pm On Aug 16, 2019
OpenYourEyes1:


You can use a video filter to blur out the unclothedness.


I think fornication does to the covering of human spirit what water does to paper box with sugar. It leaves the spirit exposed and vulnerable to predators.

This is probably why porn is forced on strong people. They want to break and attack you.
No weapon formed against i and my family shall prosper.
Read my last two comments above to understand the difference between looking and lusting.

(1) (2) (3) (Reply)

What Is The Difference Between Iniquity, Sin, And Transgression? / The Kaaba- Another Prove That Islam Is The Religion Of Peace / Brèast Feeding A Man In Islam

(Go Up)

Sections: politics (1) business autos (1) jobs (1) career education (1) romance computers phones travel sports fashion health
religion celebs tv-movies music-radio literature webmasters programming techmarket

Links: (1) (2) (3) (4) (5) (6) (7) (8) (9) (10)

Nairaland - Copyright © 2005 - 2024 Oluwaseun Osewa. All rights reserved. See How To Advertise. 282
Disclaimer: Every Nairaland member is solely responsible for anything that he/she posts or uploads on Nairaland.