This is shameful!

Is this one a mother.

Eye lashes to school for secondary student.

BRATISLAVA:
the unreasonable sort, of course. Just look at her. Poverty speaks in many ways.

Lol. You'll be surprised the mother didn't see it. We had a way of hiding things from our parents way back. The mother's reaction might also not be that she supports the girl. Many parents would react same way, many of us commenting here- would wish our parents can defend us like that too. We can always correct indoors.

It would have been really bad if the mother joined in shaming her there. I am sure she go collect for house.

pocohantas:


Lol. You'll be surprised the mother didn't see it. We had a way of hiding things from our parents way back. The mother's reaction might also not be that she supports the girl. Many parents would react same way, many of us commenting here- would wish our parents can defend us like that too. We can always correct indoors.

It would have been really bad if the mother joined in shaming her there. I am sure she go collect for house.

I don't think the mother could have missed it.this is not a working mum in a rush to get to work. Make up stands out, especially on kids.

ornicus:


I don't think the mother could have missed it.this is not a working mum in a rush to get to work. Make up stands out, especially on kids.

Maybe she dey sell ogede for Mile4. They leave earlier than bankers sef. Lmao

Isnt she pretty??

Yes!!
Then leave her, afteral that's what she want and that's what her mum too wanted..

Case closed

brainhgeek:


Very well said. I wanted to avoid the error of assumptions. The 40sec video is not sufficient evidence for me to judge the entire scene that played out.
I thought in a school with over 500 boarders and we still do security check before any child reports back to the hostel from home. These kids still find a way of reshaping their skirts and slim-fitting their trousers. Kids will at one time try to be wayward. It is who they are, who we were and who they will be. Our approach at addressing issues such as these goes a long way in instilling discipline or condemning and totally loosing them to their wayward life. I am neither supporting the mother nor the girl. They were both very wrong and deserved to be sent back home or given whatever disciplinary measure the school deemed fit. However, my point is that the girl was judged according to the laws of the school but it corrected. What is judgement without correction? It shouldn't have degenerated into a public scene with videos going on the internet. That is judgement without correction.
I am so sure the girl will not change but look for a safer Haven where she can do what she feels like. You can never judge her emotions from that video. From the look of things, the weight of the public condemnation might just make her and her.mum get determined not to stop or change their mindset. The security guys cut the tree of indicency but didn't address the root. The tree will still sprout.
I can blame the school management for not waging in and correcting the error, not just judging it.
Once again, no one knows the entire narrative of this story. It's hard to totally believe what you see on the internet these days until you see or hear the other half-truth. I just felt it will be fair to think otherwise.

1. Why I appreciate your argument that the school should "correct"........ you should also understand that punishments in itself have both deterrent and corrective objectives. I believe we all know the basic borderlines of right and wrong, and should not be arguing on the blurry lines or overlaps. How well do you want this handled? They invite them to "counselling" sessions? The mother was spurring for a fight right from home, or how do you explain encouraging her daughter to come to school like that? What do you seek to "correct" in someone that breaks law with impunity? This is the reason why we clamour that the full dictates of the rules be applied.

2. While we must seek to instill discipline in some errant kids as you advanced, we must also be careful to protect the already disciplined one from bad influences. If this had been allowed to let slide, you can imagine what signals it sends to other gullible children and what catastrophic effect it will have on Queens College's reputation. As you said, they have over 500 boarders, do you think QC has the time and energy to baby-sit some errant-kid (mother & child) on how to obey simple rules? As far as I see it, someone who had the audacity to show up at the school with fixed-eyelashes and makeup had damned the consequences and was up for a fight.

3. I also believe that parents should not out-source their functions in proper upbringing to other institutions. It is not the primary responsibility of QC to make sure the girl does not go wayward, it is the responsibility of that irresponsible mother. Yet in this context it is the responsibility of QC to make sure that such irresponsibility is not brought into the school. The school can and will still counsel, but that will be after she has served the punishment stipulated in the school rules. You cannot counsel and unrepentant and combative mother like that.

4. Wrt security and videos etc. I believe these are secondary and that is why I had not given much credence to it up till now. First off, those who took the video and put it online needed to have exercised restraints in that regard. Yes they could have taken the video for posterity and protection.....

dominique:


So manhandling and humiliating her on video was the way to go about it? If you watch th video, the woman was saying "I told them to leave my daughter alone let me take her home". Meaning this mess would have been averted of she had been turned back at the gate but the staff wanted to humiliate the girl. Insisting she must be recorded on video is a violation of her rights and a case the school will not win if the woman decides to sue

Nope!. The mess would have been avoided if she didn't come like that in the first place. That she brought her daughter to school in that manner meant she was ready to damn all consequences and was ready to fight. It stands logic on the head that you expect a palliative treatment when a gross violation of rules are committed.

Sue? Except she wants to plunge herself further down...... Officially QC did not do the video; those that did, did it privately for other purposes that can legally be explained. So, what will she sue QC for? violating the school regulations?

Parents are not taking education important as they should again. Why will a secondary school student go to school with eye lashes and you still have the guts to go and harass the school staffs

lloyds:


Who told you that young lady am seeing there has not started f**king.

I remember what used to happen in my Sec. school days na.

When I was in school we were not allowed to shape sideburns! This one wants to fix eyelash and nails. Olosho in training.

DarkJeddi:
If you don't want anyone to put their hands on your daughter,then let her adhere to the simplest of laid down instructions..

The responsibility to discipline your child starts with you..

if you don't discipline her,then be ready for others to do the discipline for you the way they may see fit..

Nigerians. Putting hands on people is grounds for charging you with a degree of physical assault. There's also verbal assault. So, be ready to do jail time until you get sense.
By the way, all of the QC staff that took part in the debacle must be sacked. I cannot imagine this happening in Atlantic Hall for example.

P.S. What is happening with Bobrisky and that guy that attacked him? Make examples of these people.

mapet:


Nope!. The mess would have been avoided if she didn't come like that in the first place. That she brought her daughter to school in that manner meant she was ready to damn all consequences and was ready to fight. It stands logic on the head that you expect a palliative treatment when a gross violation of rules are committed.

Sue? Except she wants to plunge herself further down...... Officially QC did not do the video; those that did, did it privately for other purposes that can legally be explained. So, what will she sue QC for? violating the school regulations?

Are you saying that the ONLY way the security and school staff can handle the situation is by dragging her head around and putting her on video? Why then do we take offense when Caucasians use derogatory terms on us like monkeys, shithole etc? Are we not animalistic in nature if majority of us believe it is justifiable to publicly humiliate a teenager because she broke rules? Couldn't there have been other ways to punish her? If you were a parent, you would have been ok with your child's head being dragged around like that regardless what she did?

If Queens College does not release a statement distancing itself from this show of shame, they are at risk of law suit. The whole fracas happened within it's premises, carried out by it's employees so they are 100% culpable.

DarkJeddi:
If you don't want anyone to put their hands on your daughter,then let her adhere to the simplest of laid down instructions..

The responsibility to discipline your child starts with you..

if you don't discipline her,then be ready for others to do the discipline for you the way they may see fit..

You can go home and make pepper soup with your own kids not mine
Oga, all I am saying is that at the end of the day it will become man to man and not a child to man.
From there it might escalate to, court with men. Then we will see which court would side that an adult should assault and brutalize a child in that manner.

dominique:


Are you saying that the ONLY way the security and school staff can handle the situation is by dragging her head around and putting her on video? Why then do we take offense when Caucasians use derogatory terms on us like monkeys, shithole etc? Are we not animalistic in nature if majority of us believe it is justifiable to publicly humiliate a teenager because she broke rules? Couldn't there have been other ways to punish her? If you were a parent, you would have been ok with your child's head being dragged around like that regardless what she did?

If Queens College does not release a statement distancing itself from this show of shame, they are at risk of law suit. The whole fracas happened within it's premises, carried out by it's employees so they are 100% culpable.

1. You mean Caucasian call you monkeys and you agree? I cannot address what you've personally acceded to as a self-fulfilling prophesy
2. If you scroll up, you will see where I posted how I erred as a parent in near similar situation and how I quickly fell in line with the school rules and regulation, when it was told to me. I dare say my daughter knows some standing rules and will never even take it out. How would I as a responsible parent put fake eye-lashes on my daughter's eye and say oya let's go to school............ (When ayam not mad!)
3. It will be interesting to see you join the train to sue QC (assuming it is possible)...... so you will go to a judge and say...eeemm Yes they broke the rules, but the school had no right to ......... what logic!

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At least, she now knows how not to go to school.

See someone here said students do this in America. Yes, we know. They end up often in strip clubs, porn stars or 16yr old baby-mama. Are we in America? Some Nigerians need to have their heads checked. How do you compare the modern day Babylon to Nigeria.

mapet:


1. You mean Caucasian call you monkeys and you agree? I cannot address what you've personally acceded to as a self-fulfilling prophesy
2. If you scroll up, you will see where I posted how I erred as a parent in near similar situation and how I quickly fell in line with the school rules and regulation, when it was told to me. I dare say my daughter knows some standing rules and will never even take it out. How would I as a responsible parent put fake eye-lashes on my daughter's eye and say oya let's go to school............ (When ayam not mad!)
3. It will be interesting to see you join the train to sue QC (assuming it is possible)...... so you will go to a judge and say...eeemm Yes they broke the rules, but the school had no right to ......... what logic!

I don't do back and forths so this will be my last response to you.

I don't agree to the racial profiling by racist Caucasians of Africans but you shouldn't complain too much of being labelled as animals when in reality most of you behave worse than animals.

I asked if as a parent you will be okay with your child being dragged around like that REGARDLESS the offense, but you're so fixated on eye lashes as if that's the biggest offense a teenager can commit. You probably would have spoken against the assault if she stole or destroyed school property (which are worse offenses by the way) since your biggest problem is fixing eye lashes.

As long as a physical assault and infringement of human rights took place, the affected is within their legal rights of sue. Anybody can file a civil suit, it's left to the court to decide.

xjiggy:
That we have currupt individuals as leaders does not erode the richness of our values. You failed to name the Tai solarins, Dora Akuyinli, Gani Fawehinmis that stood for what is right and good. Mind you brother, every culture world wide have a barbaric side to it but every culture have its peculiarities. When modernizing your culture, inculcate only the progressive and positive aspects and discard of the frivolities. The Asians are a good example of this. Despite their modernization, they refuse to discard of their moral inclines. A school child should concentrate on their education and overall metal growth not body enhancements. As for the mother, her total lack of discipline is evident in the whole outcome.

I am not going to fault your position because that is what it should be. The point I was trying to make is that most people are quick to say Africa values forgetting that some of those values are nothing short of oppression and retrogression.
Use the case of what happened to this child, how those the action of public shaming ( which to a large extend has become our ways of life) help in the grooming of a generation that are well balanced to take on the future.

Times have change we no longer live in isolation, it is time we let go of purported values that have added nothing to our development as a people.

I will give you an example that is unrelated just to point out the problem with adhering to such values. Today must of our young people cannot speak up for themselves in the face of oppression, because our value system forbids us to challenge our elders. We are both aware where this has landed us as a nation.

autonomous22:
Girl wey don ripe finish

Ripe ke? Na Mango fruit wey u wan go pluck abi?

Nonsence and ingredient boy.

I can swear with my dick this girl has started collecting dick.

dominique:


I don't do back and forths so this will be my last response to you.

I don't agree to the racial profiling by racist Caucasians of Africans but you shouldn't complain too much of being labelled as animals when in reality most of you behave worse than animals.

I asked if as a parent you will be okay with your child being dragged around like that REGARDLESS the offense, but you're so fixated on eye lashes as if that's the biggest offense a teenager can commit. You probably would have spoken against the assault if she stole or destroyed school property (which are worse offenses by the way) since your biggest problem is fixing eye lashes.

As long as a physical assault and infringement of human rights took place, the affected is within their legal rights of sue. Anybody can file a civil suit, it's left to the court to decide.

I will also take the same position with you on back-and-forth with this as my last post on this issue

1. Regardless of this offense you say...... I struggle to disconnect the offence from the the question you posed. If a child is "dragged" justly and unjustly that should be addressed on its merit. Your attempt to shade the basis of this saga and portray a child-right abuse is to me pandering to sentiments. Yes I do not support the pictures and videos being put online, and I argued this school can bear no responsibility for there's currently no official response of the school yet.

2. Rules are rules, small infringements, big infringements are subjective terms. What can be accepted as the right procedure is what is stipulated in the schools' regulation. So the argument of "if she stole or destroys school property....." holds no water in this context. If the rules says for example that for those eye-lashes and make-up, not only will she be denied entry, in addition she must serve punishment or suspended....rules are rules. That is why the girl and the mother should read the rules and regulation of QC well before opting to attend.

3. On your argument of physical assault, beyond insistence of capturing her face on camera, which I had put in perspective, I did not see an arguable physical assault here. Yes she can sue, I want her to....let's test our laws....

Hoephase:


I will give you an example that is unrelated just to point out the problem with adhering to such values. Today must of our young people cannot speak up for themselves in the face of oppression, because our value system forbids us to challenge our elders. We are both aware where this has landed us as a nation.

It's either you have little depth about the value system that forbids us to challenge elders and in what context it is situated; or you can't separate the two. Even from the days of our fore-fathers, misguided kings have been dethroned, Youths have challenged shameless elders who have overstepped their bounds. There are several adages that address boundaries around respect and conducts......

dominique:

Are you saying that the ONLY way the security and school staff can handle the situation is by dragging her head around and putting her on video? Why then do we take offense when Caucasians use derogatory terms on us like monkeys, shithole etc? Are we not animalistic in nature if majority of us believe it is justifiable to publicly humiliate a teenager because she broke rules? Couldn't there have been other ways to punish her? If you were a parent, you would have been ok with your child's head being dragged around like that regardless what she did?

If Queens College does not release a statement distancing itself from this show of shame, they are at risk of law suit. The whole fracas happened within it's premises, carried out by it's employees so they are 100% culpable.

is the mother not aware her child is violating the school rules by putting on eye lashes and painting her fingernails?

I'm damn sure if that girl had been sent home the woman in question would have come on social media lamenting about how her daughter was sent home because of the way she dressed to school.

I'm not saying what those people did is right but heck, it could have been avoided if the girl's mum didn't let her irresponsibility get the best of her.

ireneidiva:

The mother is fighting because her daughter was manhandled!

Then I guess the phrase "as you dress, so shall you be addressed" is true afterall. They had no right to manhandle the girl but then it was the mother who failed to do her duties as a mother, hence setting her up for the treatment she received.

Ijawwomaninoyo:


Did you see the length of her skirt too, plus nail polish?

I saw it, but the school still reacted poorly, worst happened while i was in sec school. A boy and a girl were caught doing stuff in the bathroom. That was alot worst than what this girl did but my
sec school security didn't end up fighting the parents of those caught in the act. The school security shouldn't even be involved in this case. What happened to the principal, headmaster headteachers.

charliboy654:

I saw it, but the school still reacted poorly, worst happened while i was in sec school. A boy and a girl were caught doing stuff in the bathroom. That was alot worst than what this girl did but my
sec school security didn't end up fighting the parents of those caught in the act. The school security shouldn't even be involved in this case. What happened to the principal, headmaster headteachers.

She is probably a serial offender and warned to remove it but refused so the security man was asked not to let her in.
Offenders are not allowed into the school in some places. Eg Muslim students wearing hijab to Our Lady of Apostles school Ibadan. ISI did it too.
They are asked not to allow students entry, you and I know the student will insult him and want to force her way in which caused the brouhaha.

Ijawwomaninoyo:


She is probably a serial offender and warned to remove it but refused so the security man was asked not to let her in.
Offenders are not allowed into the school in some places. Eg Muslim students wearing hijab to Our Lady of Apostles school Ibadan. ISI did it too.
They are asked not to allow students entry, you and I know the student will insult him and want to force her way in which caused the brouhaha.

You are now judging base on probability. I dont judge people like that. I read the story, watched the video n make my statement. No need assuming and making things up.

Some People r Xo Dumb n Illiterate Litrates, Nt Supporting d fact d Girl Fixed Eye Lashes, But That's Nt A Big Deal or Offence 2 Trend her In that manner.. So Wrong fr Harrasing Both d Girl n d Mum..

Niger wit it's Retarde.d Citizens.. We need Ti GrowuP

Promismike:
Watch how the up coming slay queen is going to be popular.

Not this generation that glorify moral decadence?

I swear