Let's see what the Jesus of the Bible allegedly said:

Matthew 5:32
But I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, causes her to become an adulteress, and anyone who marries the divorced woman commits adultery.

Matthew 19:9
I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another woman commits adultery."

Luke 16:18
"Anyone who divorces his wife and marries another woman commits adultery, and the man who marries a divorced woman commits adultery.

Mark 10:10-12
When they were in the house again, the disciples asked Jesus about this. He answered, "Anyone who divorces his wife and marries another woman commits adultery against her. And if she divorces her husband and marries another man, she commits adultery."

When someone reads the gospel of Mark and Luke he might get the impression that divorce is completely prohibited. However, we see that in the gospel of Matthew there is an exceptional reason for justifiable divorce and that is marital unfaithfulness on the part of one spouse towards the other.

Taken from http://www.evangelicaloutreach.org/divorce.htm...

The aforementioned Scriptures about divorce and remarriage were given by the Lord Jesus. Clearly, He stated marital unfaithfulness (sexual immorality) is the only cause for a divorce! Hence, if one divorces his spouse for any other reason besides sexual immorality, regardless what that reason is, he is indicted by these verses! If such a person would then "marry" another, not only would he be committing adultery, but the person he "marries" would likewise be committing adultery! All people, who have never been married, need to know these facts before they consider marrying someone who might not be eligible for marriage again, namely a divorced person. When we consider passages like 1 Cor. 6:9,10 and Rev. 21:8, we can only conclude that an adulterous marriage, as referred to in Matt. 5:32 and 19:9, will result in both parties being thrown into the lake of fire, that is, unless that ceases and they find forgiveness for their adultery.

What honor is this to the woman? Let's say that a husband divorces his wife for no good reason. That means she automatically becomes an adulterous. What if her husband becomes sterile and couldn't meet her sexual needs? What if her husband was in a coma? What if her husband went to prison? She needs a man to take care of her but she is not allowed to marry again until her husband cheats on her (or dies) so that she can divorce him. Also the man who marries this woman would also be committing adultery.
This also shows that if a woman happens to be beaten up by her husband she has no right to divorce him. Or if she marries him and then ends up realizing that he is not what she expected him to be and she is not happy with him, she is forced to stay married to him! If they happen to separate she is not allowed to marry anyone else.

Also a husband cannot divorce his wife except if she cheats on him. What if he marries her and she turns out to be a really horrible and disobedient wife? He still has to stay married to her until she cheats on him so that he can legitimately divorce her!

Also Paul says...

1 Corinthians 7:13
"And if a woman has a husband who is not a believer and he is willing to live with her, she must not divorce him."

So a believing woman is forced to stay with her unbelieving husband. She has to risk having her spiritual beliefs affected by her unbelieving husband.
So it's the unbelieving man's choice to leave the believing woman. She can't leave him, even if she fears that the kids were going to be negatively affected by the father's "non-Christian" spiritual beliefs.
So according to Christianity, women are not even allowed to protect their children's' spiritual beliefs from their unbelieving husbands!

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AntiChristian:
Let's see what the Jesus of the Bible allegedly said:

Matthew 5:32
But I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, causes her to become an adulteress, and anyone who marries the divorced woman commits adultery.

Matthew 19:9
I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another woman commits adultery."

Luke 16:18
"Anyone who divorces his wife and marries another woman commits adultery, and the man who marries a divorced woman commits adultery.

Mark 10:10-12
When they were in the house again, the disciples asked Jesus about this. He answered, "Anyone who divorces his wife and marries another woman commits adultery against her. And if she divorces her husband and marries another man, she commits adultery."

When someone reads the gospel of Mark and Luke he might get the impression that divorce is completely prohibited. However, we see that in the gospel of Matthew there is an exceptional reason for justifiable divorce and that is marital unfaithfulness on the part of one spouse towards the other.

Taken from http://www.evangelicaloutreach.org/divorce.htm...

The aforementioned Scriptures about divorce and remarriage were given by the Lord Jesus. Clearly, He stated marital unfaithfulness (sexual immorality) is the only cause for a divorce! Hence, if one divorces his spouse for any other reason besides sexual immorality, regardless what that reason is, he is indicted by these verses! If such a person would then "marry" another, not only would he be committing adultery, but the person he "marries" would likewise be committing adultery! All people, who have never been married, need to know these facts before they consider marrying someone who might not be eligible for marriage again, namely a divorced person. When we consider passages like 1 Cor. 6:9,10 and Rev. 21:8, we can only conclude that an adulterous marriage, as referred to in Matt. 5:32 and 19:9, will result in both parties being thrown into the lake of fire, that is, unless that ceases and they find forgiveness for their adultery.

What honor is this to the woman? Let's say that a husband divorces his wife for no good reason. That means she automatically becomes an adulterous. What if her husband becomes sterile and couldn't meet her sexual needs? What if her husband was in a coma? What if her husband went to prison? She needs a man to take care of her but she is not allowed to marry again until her husband cheats on her (or dies) so that she can divorce him. Also the man who marries this woman would also be committing adultery.
This also shows that if a woman happens to be beaten up by her husband she has no right to divorce him. Or if she marries him and then ends up realizing that he is not what she expected him to be and she is not happy with him, she is forced to stay married to him! If they happen to separate she is not allowed to marry anyone else.

Also a husband cannot divorce his wife except if she cheats on him. What if he marries her and she turns out to be a really horrible and disobedient wife? He still has to stay married to her until she cheats on him so that he can legitimately divorce her!

Also Paul says...

1 Corinthians 7:13
"And if a woman has a husband who is not a believer and he is willing to live with her, she must not divorce him."

So a believing woman is forced to stay with her unbelieving husband. She has to risk having her spiritual beliefs affected by her unbelieving husband.
So it's the unbelieving man's choice to leave the believing woman. She can't leave him, even if she fears that the kids were going to be negatively affected by the father's "non-Christian" spiritual beliefs.
So according to Christianity, women are not even allowed to protect their children's' spiritual beliefs from their unbelieving husbands!

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Naive

Christians and their naive nature,pick one part of the bible,then discard another on the basis Jesus brought grace.Just discard the whole bible and write a new one,like the one Jesus(Not Isa of ALLAH) is now gay,not my word he is gay but from Netflix series.

BOFREJO:
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Naive

Even the Bible writers must be naive too when they were compiling the books.

sulasa07:
Christians and their naive nature,pick one part of the bible,then discard another on the basis Jesus brought grace.Just discard the whole bible and write a new one,like the one Jesus(Not Isa of ALLAH) is now gay,not my word he is gay but from Netflix series.

Jesus is gay and Mary smokes weed according to that Netflix film!

sulasa07:
Christians and their naive nature,pick one part of the bible,then discard another on the basis Jesus brought grace.Just discard the whole bible and write a new one,like the one Jesus(Not Isa of ALLAH) is now gay,not my word he is gay but from Netflix series.

If we want to have fun and crack some jokes it would be good to visit the stand up Nigeria comedy show!

But if we want to look critically into issues raised to help our neighbors and friends serve God faithfully, then we need to apply wisdom in doing so.

The OP raised serious questions that requires urgent attention. Please i'll like you to also set the matters straight with the aid of the Qur'an.

Can you help people to reason by presenting what (Jesus of the Qur'an) or Muhammad said regarding the issue on ground?

I think that's the best way to convince any right thinking individual to make a better choice between the two supposedly holy books, NOT just complaining and cracking jokes with the production of film makers who just want to make money by pleasing the growing number of gays around the world!

For your information, gays will love such a movie and they'll massively buy it throughout the world. That's the brain behind it!

AntiChristian:


Even the Bible writers must be naive too when they were compiled the books.

Let's address the issue you raised here!

Adam and Eve were the first couple God created!

Neither Adam nor Eve thought of cheating each other.

WHY?

Because all other humans were their own children!


So my friend,

If Adam stood firm with own his wife who deliberately disobeyed God and seduced him to do the same. Genesis 3

If Job stood firm with his own wife who asked him to cause God and die. Job 2:9

Then there is nothing that should separate you from your own Eve (wife), NO! Unless if she willfully open her legs for another man!

Under any circumstances, your utmost concern should be to help each other stand firm for the matrimony upon which you both called Allah to be your witness, vowing before Allah and man that you'll both stick to each other come what may!

So whoever vows (in the name of Allah) must stick to his vows otherwise such a person should be stoned to death for profaning God's holy name!
And who ever marries a divorcé is promoting divorce, that means is in support of breaking the vows made to Allah!
All such people ought not to live!

That's what Jesus of the Bible meant Sir! Matthew 19:9

Maximus69:


Let's address the issue you raised here!

Adam and Eve were the first couple God created!

Neither Adam nor Eve thought of cheating each other.

WHY?

Because all other humans were their own children!


So my friend,

If Adam stood firm with own his wife who deliberately disobeyed God and seduced him to do the same. Genesis 3

If Job stood firm with his own wife who asked him to cause God and die. Job 2:9

Then there is nothing that should separate you from your own Eve (wife), NO! Unless if she willfully open her legs for another man!

Under any circumstances, your utmost concern should be to help each other stand firm for the matrimony upon which you both called Allah to be your witness, vowing before Allah and man that you'll both stick to each other come what may!

So whoever vows (in the name of Allah) must stick to his vows otherwise such a person should be stoned to death for profaning God's holy name!
And who ever marries a divorcé is promoting divorce, that means is in support of breaking the vows made to Allah!
All such people ought not to live!

That's what Jesus of the Bible meant Sir! Matthew 19:9

So what does Paul meant?

AntiChristian:


So what does Paul meant?

Let's settle it one after the other Sir!

Are you now convinced that Jesus of the Bible was actually maintaining the sanctity of Allah's holy name?

Do you now agree that anyone speaking against Jesus' teachings is an enemy of God?

Do you now agree that whoever file for divorce except due to infidelity is God's enemy?

Maximus69:


Let's settle it one after the other Sir!

Are you now convinced that Jesus of the Bible was actually maintaining the sanctity of Allah's holy name?

Do you now agree that anyone speaking against Jesus' teachings is an enemy of God?

Do you now agree that whoever file for divorce except due to infidelity is God's enemy?

Thrash! if a marriage is filled with violence towards the lady how do she quit? Bring a verse from Jesus?

AntiChristian:


Thrash! if a marriage is filled with violence towards the lady how do she quit? Bring a verse from Jesus?

Wow! Wow!! Wow!!!

Do you call the utterances of Allah's messenger "THRASH"?

Even when you've got nothing better to present as a wiser counsel?

Now you've confirmed my word that you are indeed a "baby Muslim"

So continue insulting Islam on social media!

The covenant between a man and his wife is sealed by SEXUAL INTER COURSE!

So God will only accept the seal to be broken if one of the parties had sex outside the marriage!

Your immature question regarding if any of them is impotent has been resolved already because the one counseling (Jesus) had said "it's sex that could break the marriage vow"
Therefore if sex is the only ground for breaking the vow, then it's evident that whoever vows with God's name without the ability to have sex is guilty of profanity against God's holy name!

Violence is in the world already, that's why true believers were admonished to marry only their fellow believers (who are preachers, teachers and lovers of PEACE)

Your shallow mindedness about women been maltreated in marriage shows that you're not exposed!
I'm an ex military intelligence officer, and i can tell you that a combatant female soldier will beat, humiliate and rape you if you play on her intelligence while she's married or attracted to you!

So don't think only women are victims of violence in marriage!

Maximus69:
The covenant between a man and his wife is sealed by SEXUAL INTER COURSE!

So God will only accept the seal to be broken if one of the parties had sex outside the marriage!

Your immature question regarding if any of them is impotent has been resolved already because the one counseling (Jesus) had said "it's sex that could break the marriage vow"
Therefore if sex is the only ground for breaking the vow, then it's evident that whoever vows with God's name without the ability to have sex is guilty of profanity against God's holy name!

Violence is in the world already, that's why true believers were admonished to marry only their fellow believers (who are preachers, teachers and lovers of PEACE)

Your shallow mindedness about women been maltreated in marriage shows that you're not exposed!
I'm an ex military intelligence officer, and i can tell you that a combatant female soldier will beat, humiliate and rape you if you play on her intelligence while she's married or attracted to you!

So don't think only women are victims of violence in marriage!

So even if the man engages in domestic violence,the woman has no right to divorce him unless he committed adultery. I'm sure if a Muslim said this, Nairaland would have gone insane by now.

Maximus69:
The covenant between a man and his wife is sealed by SEXUAL INTER COURSE!

So God will only accept the seal to be broken if one of the parties had sex outside the marriage!

Your immature question regarding if any of them is impotent has been resolved already because the one counseling (Jesus) had said "it's sex that could break the marriage vow"
Therefore if sex is the only ground for breaking the vow, then it's evident that whoever vows with God's name without the ability to have sex is guilty of profanity against God's holy name!

Violence is in the world already, that's why true believers were admonished to marry only their fellow believers (who are preachers, teachers and lovers of PEACE)

Your shallow mindedness about women been maltreated in marriage shows that you're not exposed!
I'm an ex military intelligence officer, and i can tell you that a combatant female soldier will beat, humiliate and rape you if you play on her intelligence while she's married or attracted to you!

So don't think only women are victims of violence in marriage!

Do you support Men engaging in domestic violence? Please,dont joke around with bible verses,just simple yes or no.

sulasa07:

Do you support Men engaging in domestic violence? Please,dont joke around with bible verses,just simple yes or no.

I'm now one of Jehovah's Witnesses by the special undeserved kindness of God, anyone who engage in domestic violence for any reason whatsoever amongst us whether male or female will be disfellowshiped (completely shunned)!

So it's a CRIME in my newly found faith!

sulasa07:

So even if the man engages in domestic violence,the woman has no right to divorce him unless he committed adultery. I'm sure if a Muslim said this, Nairaland would have gone insane by now.

Faith is the assured expectation of what is hoped for the evident demonstration of realities even though not seen! Hebrew 11:1

Faith is what God said is beneficial and we trust (believe) in it, the reward for those trusting in Godly principles is not immediate, therefore we look forward to that reward in the future! Hebrew 11:6

It's about FAITH so we don't expect everyone to accept it!

@sulasa07

True Christians speaks with authority!

But we do so in a mild and respectful manner.
You shouldn't expect a YES or NO from a true believer, because our trust is in Allah's word NOT our own understanding.
So we will reason with anyone who ask for reason for the FAITH, HOPE and LOVE we have that made us submit completely to the will of Allah, and trust God's word if such a listener have the conscience to worship the true God, he/she will no longer feel at ease!

Why?

Because the true words of Allah is powerful enough to catch the attention of faithful people , it's pagans who feels indifferent towards God's word! Hebrew 4:12

Maximus69:


Wow! Wow!! Wow!!!

Do you call the utterances of Allah's messenger "THRASH"?

Even when you've got nothing better to present as a wiser counsel?

Now you've confirmed my word that you are indeed a "baby Muslim"

So continue insulting Islam on social media!

if a marriage is filled with violence towards the lady how do she quit? Bring a verse from Jesus?

AntiChristian:


if a marriage is filled with violence towards the lady how do she quit? Bring a verse from Jesus?

I don't want you to perish, so first go and recite the "surah for forgiveness" one million times for calling the utterance of Allah's prophet "THRASH"

Maximus69:


I don't want you to perish, so first go and recite the "surah for forgiveness" one million times for calling the utterance of Allah's prophet "THRASH"

if a marriage is filled with violence towards the lady how do she quit? Bring a verse from Jesus?

No verse from Jesus!

AntiChristian:


if a marriage is filled with violence towards the lady how do she quit? Bring a verse from Jesus?

No verse from Jesus!

Recite the surah for forgiveness here publicly on Nairaland for referring to the words of the messenger of Allah as "THRASH"

I don't joke with the words of the messenger of Allah, so if you've called it "THRASH" don't expect me to give you more "THRASH"! Matthew 7:6

Maximus69:


Recite the surah for forgiveness here publicly on Nairaland for referring to the words of the messenger of Allah as "THRASH"

I don't joke with the words of the messenger of Allah, so if you've called it "THRASH" don't expect me to give you more "THRASH"! Matthew 7:6

The Messenger of Allah did not call himself God or same with God!

John 1:1-3 King James Version (KJV)

1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

2 The same was in the beginning with God.

3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

AntiChristian:


The Messenger of Allah did not call himself God or same with God!

John 1:1-3 King James Version (KJV)

1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

2 The same was in the beginning with God.

3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

You're wrong!

It's not Jesus (the messenger of Allah) who called himself God Sir!

It was his followers who realized that Jesus was the prophet Moses talked about that will be like himself! Deuteronomy 18:15-18 compared to Act 3:22

So they could sense that Jesus is that prophet who will also served as a mighty God {Isaiah 9:6} just as Moses also served as God! Exodus 7:1

But according to the utterances of Allah's messenger, he keep saying that he is not equal with the Almighty God! John 8:28

So you need wisdom to grasp all these my baby Muslim friend!

Maximus69:


I'm now one of Jehovah's Witnesses by the special undeserved kindness of God, anyone who engage in domestic violence for any reason whatsoever amongst us whether male or female will be disfellowshiped (completely shunned)!

So it's a CRIME in my newly found faith!

You are just confusing yourself!

sulasa07:

You are just confusing yourself!

So there's no reason questioning a confusionist, don't you think so?

AntiChristian:
Let's see what the Jesus of the Bible allegedly said:
■ When someone reads the gospel of Mark and Luke he might get the impression that divorce is completely prohibited.
■ However, we see that in the gospel of Matthew there is an exceptional reason for justifiable divorce and that is marital unfaithfulness on the part of one spouse towards the other.

That notion instead comes from a misconstruing of that which is written. Nowhere in the context of the Gospel is divorce outrightly prohibited.

2. This is an equally wrong conclusion since the claim in Matthew is not made against divorce but instead against remarriage.

31 “It was also said, ‘Any man who divorces his wife must give her a written notice of divorce.’
32 But I tell you that any man who divorces his wife, except for the problem of sexual sin, is causing his wife to be guilty of adultery. And whoever marries a divorced woman is guilty of adultery. - Matthew 5 vs 31 - 32

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8 Jesus answered, “Moses allowed you to divorce your wives because you refused to accept God’s teaching. But divorce was not allowed in the beginning.
9 I tell you that whoever divorces his wife, except for the problem of sexual sin, and marries another woman is guilty of adultery.” - Matthew 19 vs 8 - 9

In both cases, whether it be the woman who was divorced by the man or the man that divorced the woman, remarriage is only allowed in the case that the preceding divorce was brought on by fornication in the marriage.