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The Real Reason US Suspends Immigrant Travel Visas On Nigerians. by MANNABBQGRILLS: 9:28am On Feb 05, 2020
It has little or nothing to do with Boko Haram,
has nothing to do with Buhari,
has nothing to do with arrest and detention of journalist, has nothing to do with Nigeria’s ban on gays and lesbian, but has everything to do with absence of a workable system in our identification and verification processes.

The main reason Nigeria is suspended from Immigrant visas category is because Nigeria does not have a credible background investigation system that groups like Interpol can rely on to vert and certify originality.

What that means is that if someone commits a crime in Lagos and relocates to Kano, there’s no system that can be used to track crimes and people across state lines.

Virtually all African countries have such systems even Ghana has it, Cameroun everyone has original birth certificates but nigeria prefers to have multiple identity cards not because they are interested in monitoring and tracking people but because they want to make money. Our country is a transaction society, you can buy anything even the human conscience.

Most responsible modern states in the world have tracking systems, but nigeria does not.
A typical example, if you are about 40 years,
if you go to your primary school to get your records they don’t have it.
Principals and headmasters do not have computers in the 21st century.

Now only states that are considered rogue nations or failed states that do not have workable systems.
Most nations in this category are nations at war.
Nigeria is not at war but the irresponsible nature of our government from the beginning till now makes Nigeria a war zone.

Now, back to US suspension, let us make it clear that only Immigrants visas are affected.
Non immigrant visas are not affected.
An immigrant visas is a type of visa that allows you to stay, work or even become a US citizen after you travel.

This category involves the type of visa you get when you marry an American citizen and have to relocate or the type of visas given to parents when their American citizens file for them or the visa you get through lottery.

Another category of visa affected is birth visas,
these are medical tourism visas to come to America and have a baby.
It is those categories of visas that are affected. Some waivers do apply.
However, non immigrant visas like visitors or business visas are not affected, however going forward it will be difficult to get.

What America is saying is that we cannot continue to give immigrant visas to your people if our investigators have no tools to work with to verify the true identity of your immigrant populations.

Example, someone who wins lottery or marries a US citizen, the investigators will want to check him up to primary school, but we have no records.
Our government should be ashamed that we do not have a reliable working system to track Nigerians instead of deceiving the people to assume it is unfair what US has done.

All our previous and present government should be ashamed that today we are grouped with countries like Eritrea and Sudan.
A sensible country, what they should be doing now is to put such a system in place.
Last year, two of our American friends visited Nigeria and went back with Nigerian international passports.
That can never happen in Ghana or even Liberia.
But with money you can buy a man's conscience in Nigeria.

With as little as three to five hundred dollars people are ready to subvert the law and do the unthinkable.
With just Ten thousand Naira anyone can get local governments origin letters, worst still, today traders who never stepped their legs in universities are given degrees and people even serve youth service with fake results.
If you are America will you continue to give immigrant visas to a country you cannot verify a simple certificate?
If you are America will you continue to give citizenship to immigrants whose entire documents for relocation to your country may have been forged?

We forge ID cards, we forge bank statements to get visas, we forge birth certificates, we forge marriage certificates, we forge election results, what is it that we do not forge?

We should not blame the US, the truth is we have failed as a nation.
May God help our darling country.
God bless Nigeria.

Cc,
Justwise,
DisGuy.

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Re: The Real Reason US Suspends Immigrant Travel Visas On Nigerians. by MANNABBQGRILLS: 9:29am On Feb 05, 2020
God help and save our Land!

The foundation has been destroyed from the very beginning.

Something must be done NOW!

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Re: The Real Reason US Suspends Immigrant Travel Visas On Nigerians. by clarocuzioo(m): 9:36am On Feb 05, 2020
@

One thing I noticed about you is that you are simply clever by half. You are not smart , you are not intelligent, but always trying to justify the crumbs paid to you.

Yes admittedly the system is messy owing to the foolish leaders we have been having even till date, but that is not a justification for this show of shame.

Remember the dullard you are defending was given this notice since March 2019, if he is reasonable at all, he would have made these moves he is presently making then, and US will see the government's seriousness, conscious efforts and commitment to fix the challenge, trust me they would re-consider the ban.

He knew he has this kind of serious issue of security concern raised by USA, which they have called his attention to since March 2019, he went to Egypt and made a call that everybody is welcomed to Nigeria. And you expect the USA to keep quite and allow terrorists infiltrate their country through Nigeria because she has a DULLARD as a president? Never.

But as a DULLARD he is and continue to be, he waited till the actual ban was handed over to Nigeria before he and his think alike cronies started their medicine after death approach to almost everything in this country.

When we call him a DULLARD, we don't mean to insult him, but when we look at the way he does things, any sensible being is forced to question his IQ level.

Buhari is to be held solely responsible for this act. Now he has set up a committee, trying to liazie with US to diplomatically sort issues out, but he waited until the deed has been done.

Unfortunately, hungry sycophants like you will not call a spade a spade but a farm tool, you will not say the truth for once, that Buhari is a disaster of a President, but we patriotic and sensible Nigerians has been saying it, and recent happenings in the International community proves our stance beyond all reasonable doubt that Buhari is not fit to be a Whatsapp group administrator, much more managing a complex Nation like Nigeria in this 21st century.


Speak the truth, there will be a Nigeria after Buhari, stand for Nigeria not Buhari.

Please kindly note there's nothing wise about you ( no offense meant, just the truth) I only see a selfish and hungry human being, who is simply after his pay and belly, and does not care about the general well being of the country.

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Re: The Real Reason US Suspends Immigrant Travel Visas On Nigerians. by ylaa(f): 9:49am On Feb 05, 2020
This is nothing but a fat lie. When Pa Oyedepo was deny visa recently, was it because the US couldn't vet him properly? Let them tell us the truth.
This is all about boko haram. Shikena

But I believe that one day, after buhari's regime, Nigeria, my beloved country, the GIANT of Africa, will be great again.

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Re: The Real Reason US Suspends Immigrant Travel Visas On Nigerians. by MANNABBQGRILLS: 9:55am On Feb 05, 2020
First and foremost......
Again for the umpteenth time...

Those getting paid to support any politician and political party on Nairaland and all other social media platform to the detriment of the poor masses will all end miserably, they can never escape it.
Along with those who never want our nation to move forward but rather to keep going backward, with blind looting from the elites while the poor masses are left to rot away in lifelong poverty


Golden Words of Wisdom, Only for the wise.....
If someone keeps telling you, you are not intelligent,
you are not smart, you are not beautiful,
you are not clever, you are not rich, you don't even have an okada, your skin is not shining,
your nose is bigger than your head,
you are not bla bla bla.....and you never for one day sat down with them discussing about your life or telling them you are any of these, then surely know you are 101% better than those kinda people in life!
People that you don't know if they exist in life,
but keep comparing themselves to you,
just to make their miserable lives feel better.
Just know that people like that have nothing going on for them in life, So they are looking for who to carry 'join body'!
So why not live your lives guys, and ignore such folly?
This is one of the secrets to HAPPINESS in life!

Only for the wise! wink

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Re: The Real Reason US Suspends Immigrant Travel Visas On Nigerians. by MANNABBQGRILLS: 9:59am On Feb 05, 2020
ylaa:
This is nothing but a fat lie. When Pa Oyedepo was deny visa recently, was it because the US couldn't vet him properly? Let them tell us the truth.
This is all about boko haram. Shikena

But I believe that one day, after buhari's regime, Nigeria, my beloved country, the GIANT of Africa, will be great again.
Guess it was you and the American Embassy in your yard that denied Bishop Oyedepo the Visa?!
Why do people like you choose to select Hypocrisy to believe in?!
Even when you saw it every where that the US embassy denied ever denying the Bishop Visa, which the church corroborated.

Anyways, RUMOURS are spread by...........

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Re: The Real Reason US Suspends Immigrant Travel Visas On Nigerians. by odinga1of: 10:42am On Feb 05, 2020
OP I will reply, let me finish operating Large Format Machine first.


You talk from both sides of your mouth, I know you are in the camp of Sharon Ikeazor


But Buhari Government is the main reason ( why because he keeps talking trash each time he travels overseas.)

There is corruption in Ghana and Cameroon too, if not more than Nigeria. American friends acquiring. Nigeria passport is same as Evans the kidnapper acquiring, Ghanian passport.

If you have money, as a Nigerian you will get Cameroon passport.

President Buhari Government needs to sell our image, not battering our image.

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Re: The Real Reason US Suspends Immigrant Travel Visas On Nigerians. by themaestro08(m): 10:47am On Feb 05, 2020
post=86391152:

It has little or nothing to do with Boko Haram,
has nothing to do with Buhari,
has nothing to do with arrest and detention of journalist, has nothing to do with Nigeria’s ban on gays and lesbian, but has everything to do with absence of a workable system in our identification and verification processes.

The main reason Nigeria is suspended from Immigrant visas category is because Nigeria does not have a credible background investigation system that groups like Interpol can rely on to vert and certify originality.

What that means is that if someone commits a crime in Lagos and relocates to Kano, there’s no system that can be used to track crimes and people across state lines.

Virtually all African countries have such systems even Ghana has it, Cameroun everyone has original birth certificates but nigeria prefers to have multiple identity cards not because they are interested in monitoring and tracking people but because they want to make money. Our country is a transaction society, you can buy anything even the human conscience.

Most responsible modern states in the world have tracking systems, but nigeria does not.
A typical example, if you are about 40 years,
if you go to your primary school to get your records they don’t have it.
Principals and headmasters do not have computers in the 21st century.

Now only states that are considered rogue nations or failed states that do not have workable systems.
Most nations in this category are nations at war.
Nigeria is not at war but the irresponsible nature of our government from the beginning till now makes Nigeria a war zone.

Now, back to US suspension, let us make it clear that only Immigrants visas are affected.
Non immigrant visas are not affected.
An immigrant visas is a type of visa that allows you to stay, work or even become a US citizen after you travel.

This category involves the type of visa you get when you marry an American citizen and have to relocate or the type of visas given to parents when their American citizens file for them or the visa you get through lottery.

Another category of visa affected is birth visas,
these are medical tourism visas to come to America and have a baby.
It is those categories of visas that are affected. Some waivers do apply.
However, non immigrant visas like visitors or business visas are not affected, however going forward it will be difficult to get.

What America is saying is that we cannot continue to give immigrant visas to your people if our investigators have no tools to work with to verify the true identity of your immigrant populations.

Example, someone who wins lottery or marries a US citizen, the investigators will want to check him up to primary school, but we have no records.
Our government should be ashamed that we do not have a reliable working system to track Nigerians instead of deceiving the people to assume it is unfair what US has done.

All our previous and present government should be ashamed that today we are grouped with countries like Eritrea and Sudan.
A sensible country, what they should be doing now is to put such a system in place.
Last year, two of our American friends visited Nigeria and came back with Nigerian international passports.
That can never happen in Ghana or even Liberia.
But with money you can buy a man's conscience in Nigeria.

With as little as three to five hundred dollars people are ready to subvert the law and do the unthinkable.
With just Ten thousand Naira anyone can get local governments origin letters, worst still, today traders who never stepped their legs in universities are given degrees and people even serve youth service with fake results.
If you are America will you continue to give immigrant visas to a country you cannot verify a simple certificate?
If you are America will you continue to give citizenship to immigrants whose entire documents for relocation to your country may have been forged?

We forge ID cards, we forge bank statements to get visas, we forge birth certificates, we forge marriage certificates, we forge election results, what is it that we do not forge?

We should not blame the US, the truth is we have failed as a nation.
May God help our darling country.
God bless Nigeria.

Cc,
Justwise,
DisGuy.

I agree

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Re: The Real Reason US Suspends Immigrant Travel Visas On Nigerians. by MANNABBQGRILLS: 10:58am On Feb 05, 2020
themaestro08:

I agree
You are a wise man!

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Re: The Real Reason US Suspends Immigrant Travel Visas On Nigerians. by Nobody: 11:49am On Feb 05, 2020
post=86393420:

You are a wise man!
Says the dead meat seller who have turn himself to community clown on Nairaland. Dont be chicken a report me, face me directly cause am waiting for you.

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Re: The Real Reason US Suspends Immigrant Travel Visas On Nigerians. by ylaa(f): 11:56am On Feb 05, 2020
Are you not the originator of the fake news?
C ya head like compound people
grin grin grin


post=86391905:

Guess it was you and the people in your yard that denied Bishop Oyedepo the Visa?!
Why do people like you choose to select Hypocrisy to believe in?!
Even when you saw it every where that the US embassy denied ever denying th ;De Bishop Visa, which the church corroborated.

Anyways, RUMOURS are spread by...........

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Re: The Real Reason US Suspends Immigrant Travel Visas On Nigerians. by recievesense: 12:12pm On Feb 05, 2020
This is perfectly true!
post=86391152:

It has little or nothing to do with Boko Haram,
has nothing to do with Buhari,
has nothing to do with arrest and detention of journalist, has nothing to do with Nigeria’s ban on gays and lesbian, but has everything to do with absence of a workable system in our identification and verification processes.

The main reason Nigeria is suspended from Immigrant visas category is because Nigeria does not have a credible background investigation system that groups like Interpol can rely on to vert and certify originality.

What that means is that if someone commits a crime in Lagos and relocates to Kano, there’s no system that can be used to track crimes and people across state lines.

Virtually all African countries have such systems even Ghana has it, Cameroun everyone has original birth certificates but nigeria prefers to have multiple identity cards not because they are interested in monitoring and tracking people but because they want to make money. Our country is a transaction society, you can buy anything even the human conscience.

Most responsible modern states in the world have tracking systems, but nigeria does not.
A typical example, if you are about 40 years,
if you go to your primary school to get your records they don’t have it.
Principals and headmasters do not have computers in the 21st century.

Now only states that are considered rogue nations or failed states that do not have workable systems.
Most nations in this category are nations at war.
Nigeria is not at war but the irresponsible nature of our government from the beginning till now makes Nigeria a war zone.

Now, back to US suspension, let us make it clear that only Immigrants visas are affected.
Non immigrant visas are not affected.
An immigrant visas is a type of visa that allows you to stay, work or even become a US citizen after you travel.

This category involves the type of visa you get when you marry an American citizen and have to relocate or the type of visas given to parents when their American citizens file for them or the visa you get through lottery.

Another category of visa affected is birth visas,
these are medical tourism visas to come to America and have a baby.
It is those categories of visas that are affected. Some waivers do apply.
However, non immigrant visas like visitors or business visas are not affected, however going forward it will be difficult to get.

What America is saying is that we cannot continue to give immigrant visas to your people if our investigators have no tools to work with to verify the true identity of your immigrant populations.

Example, someone who wins lottery or marries a US citizen, the investigators will want to check him up to primary school, but we have no records.
Our government should be ashamed that we do not have a reliable working system to track Nigerians instead of deceiving the people to assume it is unfair what US has done.

All our previous and present government should be ashamed that today we are grouped with countries like Eritrea and Sudan.
A sensible country, what they should be doing now is to put such a system in place.
Last year, two of our American friends visited Nigeria and came back with Nigerian international passports.
That can never happen in Ghana or even Liberia.
But with money you can buy a man's conscience in Nigeria.

With as little as three to five hundred dollars people are ready to subvert the law and do the unthinkable.
With just Ten thousand Naira anyone can get local governments origin letters, worst still, today traders who never stepped their legs in universities are given degrees and people even serve youth service with fake results.
If you are America will you continue to give immigrant visas to a country you cannot verify a simple certificate?
If you are America will you continue to give citizenship to immigrants whose entire documents for relocation to your country may have been forged?

We forge ID cards, we forge bank statements to get visas, we forge birth certificates, we forge marriage certificates, we forge election results, what is it that we do not forge?

We should not blame the US, the truth is we have failed as a nation.
May God help our darling country.
God bless Nigeria.

Cc,
Justwise,
DisGuy.

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Re: The Real Reason US Suspends Immigrant Travel Visas On Nigerians. by MANNABBQGRILLS: 1:22pm On Feb 05, 2020
ylaa:
Are you not the originator of the fake news?
C ya head like compound people
grin grin grin
The last thing, sane, honest and hardworking Nairalanders know us for is not peddling fake news or engage in social media foolishness!

That being said, do have a good day ahead and try not to derail the thread further.
Stay blessed Ylaa!

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Re: The Real Reason US Suspends Immigrant Travel Visas On Nigerians. by MPESA(m): 2:49pm On Feb 05, 2020
sad

Just continue disgracing and embarrassing your lineage here , thinking people's are taking you serious....
Posterity will not be kind to you for supporting this calamitous and Evil Government.

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Re: The Real Reason US Suspends Immigrant Travel Visas On Nigerians. by MANNABBQGRILLS: 8:18am On Feb 06, 2020
MPESA:
sad

Just continue disgracing and embarrassing your lineage here , thinking people's are taking you serious....
Posterity will not be kind to you for supporting this calamitous and Evil Government.
Posterity will judge you and your ilks for supporting, looters, criminals, rapists and the bastards that ruined our country for 16 whole years.
Y'all will never escape the evil y'all support.

Losers are angry cos we support a man of integrity, that up till now non of their fore fore can come out with any fraudulent and corrupt lifestyle against, compare to the thieves they want back in power.
Shame on you all.

Posterity will judge us all.
Karma has everyone's address!
Watch out!!

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Re: The Real Reason US Suspends Immigrant Travel Visas On Nigerians. by ylaa(f): 10:21am On Feb 06, 2020
Well done



quote author= post=86397226]
The last thing, sane, honest and hardworking Nairalanders know us for is not peddling fake news or engage in social media foolishness!

That being said, do have a good day ahead and try not to derail the thread further.
Stay blessed Ylaa![/quote]

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