matrix199:
If he had just turned himself in on that fateful day, his charge would have been 'Accidental Killing'. Likely spend some few years in jail, and later released on compassionate ground.




But no, he blew it by driving off. Now he'll be charged for murder if after investigation it was found he had the choice of slowing down to let the victim cross but chose to maintain his speed. His defence would have been he didn't see the victim, but a counter claim would be established. They'll ask him if the victim was a spirit/ghost that made it impossible for him to see.


Like I said, he blew his chances of getting a 'manslaughter' charge when he chose to drive off without halting to help the victim/check if she's still alive.

Nahhhh. He saved himself from being lynched by irate youths. Very hard decision to take! sad

matrix199:
If he had just turned himself in on that fateful day, his charge would have been 'Accidental Killing'. Likely spend some few years in jail, and later released on compassionate ground.




But no, he blew it by driving off. Now he'll be charged for murder if after investigation it was found he had the choice of slowing down to let the victim cross but chose to maintain his speed. His defence would have been he didn't see the victim, but a counter claim would be established. They'll ask him if the victim was a spirit/ghost that made it impossible for him to see.


Like I said, he blew his chances of getting a 'manslaughter' charge when he chose to drive off without halting to help the victim/check if she's still alive.

Wrong objection for judgement. The hoodlums attacking others buses is almost a legal victory for the guy to defend his accidental killing as victim of uncontrollable situation due to close range caused by her careless leaping & law break

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Cos he killed someone's wife of high post... What about other laylow lifes BRT has claimed. Who sees that

SmartyPants:


Murder requires proof of malice aforethought. If they charge him with murder he will go free.

The appropriate charges are:

Manslaughter along with a separate charge for feeling the scene.

...fleeing

the roads are not even designed well. that ikorodu road the chinese did is even more confusing and a trap for pedestrians

if the driver no run, they for kill am

Lexusgs430:
He could run, but not hide......

Exactly
Possibly going to report himself at the nearest police station, if you know the area you will know that the mob there can lynch him

So sad for the family of the bereaved but he should get a good lawyer and the Government should give him some backing. BRT lanes anywhere in the world are the last places you want to be crossing without care.

psychologist:


Exactly
Possible going to report himself at the nearest police station, if you know the area you will know that the mob there can lynch him

After he escaped the scene, he could he handed himself over and save the manhunt.......

DenreleDave:
How can BRT passenger hit a businesswoman?

Why are the police not doing their work well?

A passenger is not the driver, the driver Sud be arrested..... Not the passenger..

Moreover where in warri did this happen and when did delta started using BRT?

Isn't BRT meant for only kano state?

By their utterance, you shall know the exact brand....


Can't advice you to stop, but that brand is heavier than ur brain....

Try mixing it with Jedi or you buy from elsewhere....

If it can be proven that there is a pedestal bridge within statutory range , this woman might just end up dying free death.

Let's learn to use those bridges pls. I am not innocent of this too.

May her soul rest in peace. Mr. driver fear, fear. But is there any law that incriminates running from scene of accident?

Driver was probably scared.

I have had two encounter where a person crossing the express fell backwards due to the very high median.

One I was in the BRT and the driver braked so hard we almost fell in the bus and even the pedestrian was grateful.

The second was me crossing the road and getting on the high median and almost falling back to the path of an oncoming BRT bus. Thank God I fell forward to the express and no car was coming .


Just food for thought.

SmartyPants:


Murder requires proof of malice aforethought. If they charge him with murder he will go free.

The appropriate charges are:

Manslaughter along with a separate charge for feeling the scene.

I agree the murder charge shouldn't stick.... neither should a manslaughter charge. Is it because she has connections nobody is blaming her? She should not be on the roadway period. Why didn't she cross at the crossing point? If there was no official crossing point it was for her to make sure it was safe for her to cross. The most the driver should be charged for is hit and run..... leaving the scene of an accident.... and failing to render assistance to the victim.

Origin:
Driver was probably scared.

I have had two encounter where a person crossing the express fell backwards due to the very high median.

One I was in the BRT and the driver braked so hard we almost fell in the bus and even the pedestrian was grateful.

The second was me crossing the road and getting on the high median and almost falling back to the path of an oncoming BRT bus. Thank God I fell forward to the express and no car was coming .


Just food for thought.

Wow, that was a very close one, you're lucky.

SmartyPants:


Murder requires proof of malice aforethought. If they charge him with murder he will go free.

The appropriate charges are:

Manslaughter along with a separate charge for feeling the scene.

Guy there are ways of checking the mensrea, if he drove negligently, or recklessly that a reasonable man ought to know that it will cause death, then the malice aforethought could be established, so he can be charged for murder.

ebig21:


Guy there are ways of checking the mensrea, if he drove negligently, or recklessly that a reasonable man ought to know that it will cause death, then the malice aforethought could be established, so he can be charged for murder.

You do not know what you are talking about.

Murder is a crime of specific intent.

I have a feeling this is how you go about giving legal advice.

Ijaya123:


...fleeing

Thanks!

Iamundisputed:


It's like an unwritten rule on our roads, but these guys take it too far as they don't care about human lives, until they kill someone before their eyes clear.

Trailers, oil tankers and container trucks are the kings of the road, the BRT and LT Buses take second place, Danfo Buses take third place and SUV/Jeep owners intimidate car users.

And car users hardly slow down for pedestrians to cross even at zebra crossings. Most motorists in Lagos behave that way. Even to let a pedestrian pass between cars in traffic na war for some, as if that person will take up the space.

Most motorists in Lagos are just too impatient

He shouldn't have ran away from the scene of the accident. That is a mistake on his side. The law guildiing brt lanes is very clear except they want to bend it cuz the accident involves a big person. Rip to the dead.

Sheuns:


And car users hardly slow down for pedestrians to cross even at zebra crossings. Most motorists in Lagos behave that way. Even to let a pedestrian pass between cars in traffic na war for some, as if that person will take up the space.

Most motorists in Lagos are just too impatient

In fact, you are right. We have been taught that being impatient is the right thing, which is wrong...

But I think we owe that culture of road rage and impatience to the lack of traffic lights on most of our roads. We hardly use traffic lights on the road with the few being in Alausa and VI only. That's a foundational problem. :

matrix199:
If he had just turned himself in on that fateful day, his charge would have been 'Accidental Killing'. Likely spend some few years in jail, and later released on compassionate ground.




But no, he blew it by driving off. Now he'll be charged for murder if after investigation it was found he had the choice of slowing down to let the victim cross but chose to maintain his speed. His defence would have been he didn't see the victim, but a counter claim would be established. They'll ask him if the victim was a spirit/ghost that made it impossible for him to see.


Like I said, he blew his chances of getting a 'manslaughter' charge when he chose to drive off without halting to help the victim/check if she's still alive.

If he had stoped, angry mobs would have burnt him to death, I've seen similar occurrences, this is Nigeria. He should have went to the police station to report instead of hiding

matrix199:
If he had just turned himself in on that fateful day, his charge would have been 'Accidental Killing'. Likely spend some few years in jail, and later released on compassionate ground.




But no, he blew it by driving off. Now he'll be charged for murder if after investigation it was found he had the choice of slowing down to let the victim cross but chose to maintain his speed. His defence would have been he didn't see the victim, but a counter claim would be established. They'll ask him if the victim was a spirit/ghost that made it impossible for him to see.


Like I said, he blew his chances of getting a 'manslaughter' charge when he chose to drive off without halting to help the victim/check if she's still alive.

It's still manslaughter just with an additional charge of fleeing and accident scene ( hit and run )

I agree that ma y of the BRT drivers drive recklessly and behave as if they are high on drugs, one hit my neighbour and took off almost killing the young couple. Something needs to be done about that.

Jaywalking is a bigger problem that also needs to addressed with action and laws.

I know that portion of road at ikorodu, the driver should not have been going so fast as to kill somebody. It is also obvious the lady did not use the pedestrian overhead crossing built by government and was probably not attentive when she walked Into the path of the bus.....no credible eye witness account but I have a major problem with the driver for fleeing the scene and running away.

If he had stopped to assist the lady she may have survived to tell the truth about her jaywalking or unattentiveness.

My 2 cents

Are you okay ?

DenreleDave:
How can BRT passenger hit a businesswoman?

Why are the police not doing their work well?

A passenger is not the driver, the driver Sud be arrested..... Not the passenger..

Moreover where in warri did this happen and when did delta started using BRT?

Isn't BRT meant for only kano state?

I agree with you but then running away was to save his life. He could've been lynched. Also, it might not be his fault if the woman is the one that misjudged the speed of an on coming BRT who may endanger the lives of his passengers if he attempts slamming on the brakes.

RIP to the woman and condolences to her family.

matrix199:
If he had just turned himself in on that fateful day, his charge would have been 'Accidental Killing'. Likely spend some few years in jail, and later released on compassionate ground.




But no, he blew it by driving off. Now he'll be charged for murder if after investigation it was found he had the choice of slowing down to let the victim cross but chose to maintain his speed. His defence would have been he didn't see the victim, but a counter claim would be established. They'll ask him if the victim was a spirit/ghost that made it impossible for him to see.


Like I said, he blew his chances of getting a 'manslaughter' charge when he chose to drive off without halting to help the victim/check if she's still alive.

Iamundisputed:


In fact, you are right. We have been taught that being impatient is the right thing, which is wrong...

But I think we owe that culture of road rage and impatience to the lack of traffic lights on most of our roads. We hardly use traffic lights on the road with the few being in Alausa and VI only. That's a foundational problem. :

I just tire for the level of impatience we possess here in Lagos. A few seconds/minutes patience can prevent hours of delay in traffic.

He cant be charged for murder if the area is poorly litted and If there is pedestrian bridge nearby. He should have driven straight to the police station instead of absconding though.

No driver dare stop at the scene of accident when its established someone died. I bet they will kill him on the spot. But going underground was a terrible mistake.

matrix199:
If he had just turned himself in on that fateful day, his charge would have been 'Accidental Killing'. Likely spend some few years in jail, and later released on compassionate ground.




But no, he blew it by driving off. Now he'll be charged for murder if after investigation it was found he had the choice of slowing down to let the victim cross but chose to maintain his speed. His defence would have been he didn't see the victim, but a counter claim would be established. They'll ask him if the victim was a spirit/ghost that made it impossible for him to see.


Like I said, he blew his chances of getting a 'manslaughter' charge when he chose to drive off without halting to help the victim/check if she's still alive.

matrix199:
If he had just turned himself in on that fateful day, his charge would have been 'Accidental Killing'. Likely spend some few years in jail, and later released on compassionate ground.




But no, he blew it by driving off. Now he'll be charged for murder if after investigation it was found he had the choice of slowing down to let the victim cross but chose to maintain his speed. His defence would have been he didn't see the victim, but a counter claim would be established. They'll ask him if the victim was a spirit/ghost that made it impossible for him to see.


Like I said, he blew his chances of getting a 'manslaughter' charge when he chose to drive off without halting to help the victim/check if she's still alive.

We have a lot of hit-and-run cases because suspects risk losing their lives when they stop to help. People don't bother to ask questions. They immediately assume that the driver is at fault, and they burn him and his vehicle.

There was the case of a man who ran a secondary school student over. He waited to help but people started beating him up. When he heard tyre and petrol, he managed to free himself and run. He ran into a nearby police station but the mob followed him right into the police station and dragged him away right in the presence of police officers.

As for this driver's charge, it would still be manslaughter since the action was not premeditated. He might be charged separately for failing to stop and help the victim. I think he would get 3 years, maybe.

It was reported earlier that the victim was actually the one who failed to check the road. In the case of Ibinabo, she was at fault, and still abandoned the victim. She got 5 years. This driver should get less if she gets a lawyer who references Ibinabo's case.

Why is the yamlegged iyanmirin Biafran man driving our BRT?

This is the reason these poverty striken igbos are abandoning their ancestral land for RAGOS.

We need to send them all BACK!!!! To their rotten Nnewi.

If he hadn't escaped there may have been jungle justice on him.
He should have ran to the police instead.

God will punish all this stupid inexperienced drivers with their bus owners... Amen for causing sorrow and bereavement for us.... They will also not know any peace and joy in their lives....