gsegun43:
You cant argue because you can never win.

Do you know how i view god today?

To me, its like those tortoise stories and animal talking stories of when we were kids. I see religious people as kids that will believe that animals can truely talk.

gsegun43:
You cant argue because you can never win.

Do you know how i view god today?

To me, its like those tortoise stories and animal talking stories of when we were kids. I see religious people as kids that will believe that animals can truely talk.

Major001:
My simple answer is this: you keep to your views and I'll keep to mine. Sooner or later we will both die...and cross over to the other side of life. Then we will know who is wrong and who is right.

Until then...Shalom.

Major001:
I've observed that this forum is rife with unnecessary arguments between true believers and atheists/unbelievers. Questions about God, Jesus, The Bible, The Rapture, The Great Tribulation, The Jews, etc. are flying all over the place.

While there are wolves amongst the sheep in God's house...this brief message is strictly for true believers. If you've been truly inspired by the Holy Spirit to give a word or two...then go ahead and do so. And leave it at that.

Stop getting involved in unnecessary debates with atheists/unbelievers. Your mandate is to preach the Good News... not argue or try to convince someone else to accept your message or see things from your point of view.

God's Word is received by revelation... not compulsion. Remember, the carnal mind can't grasp spiritual things. So stop with the distracting debates. Your job is to preach to the individual... while that of the Holy Spirit is to reveal the reality of the Gospel truth and convict the spirit of the individual.

And when it comes to unrepentant atheists/unbelievers have these three scriptures at the back of your mind:

PSALM 14:1-3

II PETER 3:1-7

II CORINTHIANS 4:4

Heaven isn't for everyone. Neither is the Lake of Fire.

Time is short. Death is sure. Eternity awaits us all.

Shalom.

Major001:


Stop getting involved in unnecessary debates with atheists/unbelievers. Your mandate is to preach the Good News... not argue or try to convince someone else to accept your message or see things from your point of view.

God's Word is received by revelation... not compulsion. Remember, the carnal mind can't grasp spiritual things. So stop with the distracting debates. Your job is to preach to the individual... while that of the Holy Spirit is to reveal the reality of the Gospel truth and convict the spirit of the individual.

Major001:
One of these days you'll come to realize the truth. It's only a matter of time. I only hope it won't be too late.

Accept Jesus as Saviour & Lord now.

No one can guarantee you the next five minutes.

The worst thing that can happen to an atheist/unbeliever is to die in this life and open his eyes in the afterlife... only to come face to face with Almighty God.

And then you'll discover the joke had been on you all along.

It's easy to say and write whatever you want now...but when death eventually comes for you...

In the end...light will triumph over darkness. No amount of atheism or unbelief or careless talk can change that fact.

Shalom.

Mineisgrace:
No true believer is arguing with atheist. What we do is tell them the truth and lead them right

petra1:



You're right . We may win a debate but winning a debate does not constitute winning their soul. But at the same time we need to understand that debate is not totally wrong . It gives opportunities to present facts , sow doubts to wrong ideology. The holy spirit do the rest .

Acts 19:9
But when divers were hardened, and believed not, but spake evil of that way before the multitude, he departed from them, and separated the disciples, disputing daily in the school of one Tyrannus.


The only thing I found wrong here is when argument get messy and degenerate into abuses .

2Ti 2:24 — 2Ti 2:25
And the servant of the Lord must not strive; but be gentle unto all men, apt to teach, patient, In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth;

desiredhome:


Still can't get it,... how we have replaced true soul willing with willing members........

They believe when they have crowd they are willing souls even when over 60% of that crowd don't know God.......

desiredhome:


Still cannot understand, how we have replaced True SOUl winning with winning MEMBERS........

They believe when they have crowd they are winning souls even when over 60% of that crowd don't know God.......

Matthew 7 vs 6
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6. Do not give dogs what is holy; do not throw your pearls before swine. If you do, they may trample them under their feet, and then turn and tear you to pieces.

Emusan:


Do you know God yourself?

desiredhome:



Yes I know God... because I do and keep to His principles/commandments

Emusan:
So when did you become God to have known that 60% of congregations don't do and keep to His principles/commandments?

petra1:



You're right . We may win a debate but winning a debate does not constitute winning their soul. But at the same time we need to understand that debate is not totally wrong . It gives opportunities to present facts , sow doubts to wrong ideology. The holy spirit do the rest .

Acts 19:9
But when divers were hardened, and believed not, but spake evil of that way before the multitude, he departed from them, and separated the disciples, disputing daily in the school of one Tyrannus.


The only thing I found wrong here is when argument get messy and degenerate into abuses .

2Ti 2:24 — 2Ti 2:25
And the servant of the Lord must not strive; but be gentle unto all men, apt to teach, patient, In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth;

Emusan:


So when did you become God to have known that 60% of congregations don't do and keep to His principles/commandments?

desiredhome:


Still cannot understand, how we have replaced True SOUl winning with winning MEMBERS........

They believe when they have crowd they are winning souls even when over 60% of that crowd don't know God.......

Kobojunkie:
You are not even supposed to do that either... Tell them 'the truth' that is. They obviously do not want what you have to offer.

What Jesus Christ told His disciples to do in the case that the people did not want what they were offering was that they dust off their sandals and move on, yet over and over, I have seen so-called Christians think it their place to essentially SHOVE their truth at those who don't believe. Why do they do it? I don't understand since it is against what Jesus Christ taught.

Mineisgrace:
most of the so called atheist knows deep down that God exist and Jesus is the way, the truth and the light but they feel hurt due to issues happening in the society.

Mineisgrace:
Christ said we should dust our shoes and move on but he didn't say we stop typing on Nairaland to proclaim his message.
Sharing the good news is not against what Jesus taught

Emusan:


So when did you become God to have known that 60% of congregations don't do and keep to His principles/commandments?

Dtruthspeaker:


These are not soul winning days but the days of Separation, Lovers of God vs. Haters of God and the the undecided, have a decision to make.

desiredhome:
It's your character that will convince/convert the unbeliever to Christ, so when you are worst off than the unbeliever how then can you preach to them?

John 1 vs 6
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1. Before the world began, the Word[a] was there. The Word was with God, and the Word was God.
2. He was there with God in the beginning.
3. Everything was made through him, and nothing was made without him.
4. In him there was life, and that life was a light for the people of the world.
5. The light[b] shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not defeated[c] it.

Matthew 5 vs 13
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13. “You are the salt of the earth. But if the salt loses its taste, it cannot be made salty again. Salt is useless if it loses its salty taste. It will be thrown out where people will just walk on it.
14. “You are the light that shines for the world to see. You are like a city built on a hill that cannot be hidden.
15. People don’t hide a lamp under a bowl. They put it on a lampstand. Then the light shines for everyone in the house.
16. In the same way, you should be a light for other people. Live so that they will see the good things you do and praise your Father in heaven.

Major001:
My simple answer is this: you keep to your views and I'll keep to mine. Sooner or later we will both die...and cross over to the other side of life. Then we will know who is wrong and who is right.

Until then...Shalom.

Mineisgrace:
most of the so called atheist knows deep down that God exist and Jesus is the way, the truth and the light but they feel hurt due to issues happening in the society.

Christ said we should dust our shoes and move on but he didn't say we stop typing on Nairaland to proclaim his message.

Sharing the good news is not against what Jesus taught