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Re: Must Barca Cheat To Win! by ddippset(m): 1:19pm On May 03, 2011
switchmax8:

maxpro-xl,
If you say mourinho won the champions league without controversy then you are a novice in football and probably you are one of the fanatics of chelsea that just joined their fan base let me give you instances if you dont know of the the controversy that made mourinho won the champions league.

Mourinho may be blessed with the memory of an elephant, but he certainly chooses to use it very selectively.

Mourinho didn’t win his Champions League trophies just with “hard word, pride, effort and sweat” - he also received some favourable refereeing decisions (and fortune) along the way. In the 2003-04 edition, his Porto side were on the verge of elimination during their second round tie with Manchester United. Ahead 1-0 in the second-leg at Old Trafford, the dominant English champions had a Paul Scholes goal scandalously disallowed for a non-existent offside decision. This meant that a last-minute strike from Costinha, following a shocking goalkeeper error by Tim Howard, put Porto through 3-2 on aggregate. Mourinho didn’t complain, instead he raced down the touchline for his famous celebration.

In the 1-0 semi-final victory over Deportivo, Jose also benefited from outrageous refereeing. In the first-leg in Portugal, which finished 0-0, one of Depor’s star players Jorge Andrade was sent off for playfully kicking at former team-mate Deco. The pair unsuccessfully remonstrated with referee Markus Merk that they were just fooling around, Andrade repeating the words: “He’s my friend, he‘s my friend”. The red card had a huge bearing on the tie. Without their rock in defence, Deportivo lost the return 1-0 at home, and Mourinho’s Porto proceeded to the final where they beat Monaco 3-0.

Fast forward six years to Mourinho’s second Champions League triumph, and once again Inter’s success was not as black and white as he'd like us to think. Granted, the Nerazzurri were deserving champions, but they had their rub of the green on the path to glory too. In the second round first leg with Chelsea at San Siro, the Londoners would have probably returned to Stamford Bridge with a 2-2 draw had referee Mejuto Gonzalez awarded Chelsea a penalty for a clear last-man trip on Salomon Kalou by Walter Samuel, which could have also potentially resulted in a red card for the Argentine.

In the classic semi-final win against Guardiola’s Barcelona, Mourinho has every right to complain about Thiago Motta’s unjust red card in the second-leg that forced Inter into a heroic rearguard action in Catalonia. But he overlooks Diego Milito’s offside third goal in Milan, which was ultimately the difference between the two sides on paper.

As for Guardiola’s supposedly “embarrassing” Champions League successes, the 2009 semi-final second-leg at Stamford Bridge between Chelsea and Barca is in danger of turning into a mythical old wives' tale with Barcelona as the evil baddie. The truth is that of the five penalty claims that were turned down by referee Tom Henning Ovrebo, only one was a penalty – the clear handball by Gerard Pique. Dani Alves’ obstruction on Florent Malouda may have been inside the area, but obstruction is only a penalty offence when really serious, and this was not. The same can be said for Eric Abidal’s slight pull of Didier Drogba’s shirt before half-time, which preceded a one-second delay before the Ivorian catapulted himself onto the floor like he’d caught the plague.

In the episode involving Drogba and Yaya Toure on 56 minutes, both were wrestling each other, and even if Kolo’s younger brother did draw back the Chelsea hitman, it was well outside the area. Finally, regarding Michael Ballack’s last-gasp appeal against Samuel Eto’o, the Cameroonian may have had his arm higher than usual, but it was clearly ball-to-hand (the very top of his arm and back), while he also had his back turned. FIFA’s ‘Laws of the Game’ at the time were crystal clear on this.

It is amusing that Mourinho conveniently overlooked the fact that Abidal was wrongly red-carded on 65 minutes for a ‘professional foul’ when Anelka had tripped over his own feet. This forced Barcelona to chase the last 25 minutes of the game with just 10 men. As a result the space opened up for Chelsea on the counter-attack, and it was only after this dismissal that the stonewall Pique penalty incident occurred. It is also peculiar how Mourinho discarded the performance of referee Wolfgang Stark (Yes, the same WOLFGANG STARK from Real Madid vs. Barcelona) in the first-leg at Camp Nou. During that game, Stark waved away an excellent Thierry Henry penalty shout, failed to send off Ballack, and also harshly booked Carles Puyol, forcing Barcelona to start a left-back at centre-back, and a centre midfielder at left-back in the second-leg.

The semi-final comparison to be drawn between Chelsea 2009 and Real Madrid 2011 is that both teams played anti-football against Barcelona. While Mourinho got his tactics spot on in the first two Clasicos of April, and Real Madrid picked their moments to attack Barca, in Clasico III the Special One was far too negative and brought the problems on himself. Pepe’s red card was undoubtedly harsh, but once again Mourinho ignores the fact that his naturalised countryman should have been sent off during the Copa del Rey final a week earlier. The big decisions in Valencia went the way of the Blancos.

Mourinho must realise that, despite his genius, he cannot win every single trophy every year. That is an impossibility and he needs to accept his rare defeats with grace. To attempt to downgrade the achievements of a Barcelona side who are probably the most exciting club XI we have ever seen - and on their way to challenging the likes of Ajax 71-73, Bayern 74-76 and Milan 89-94 for the title of greatest ever club team - is truly dishonourable. To be unable to support his wild theories with facts is hypocritical and slanderous

I believe with this information you will be able to avail yourself with football history that involve mourinho because you sound like someone that just started watching football 2weeks ago.
  ON POINT. the man wants the world to forget about the maradonas, the peles, the platinis, the zidanes, the bests, the ronaldos(the real one), the messis for his sake. some1 tell him we need super star players NOT super star coaches.
Re: Must Barca Cheat To Win! by medjai(m): 8:35pm On May 03, 2011
Can you guys see Carvalho? He's only one more nasty challenge away from a Red
Re: Must Barca Cheat To Win! by otokx(m): 8:42pm On May 03, 2011
@medjai

tell them o
Re: Must Barca Cheat To Win! by mamagee3(f): 1:52am On May 04, 2011
oluseyeade:

Barca did not cheat ! they were just making crazy remarks it was a red card and Barcelona won because they played better football !
If they played "better" football, why was Busquets tripping all over the field just by a mere touch of the wind/

Think again!
Re: Must Barca Cheat To Win! by eyoniggar(m): 8:55am On May 04, 2011
^^ U be mumu.
Re: Must Barca Cheat To Win! by hisoccer(m): 9:09am On May 04, 2011
Bacra is a great club any time any day but still remains a cheat, ! WHY?
Re: Must Barca Cheat To Win! by topeorekoy(m): 9:47am On May 04, 2011
Sometimes pple allow sentiments to becloud their judgement, think deeply why is it mostly teams coached by Jose Mourinho that mainly get red carded when playing against Barcelona (apart from Arsenal)? He felt the only way he could stop Barcelona from playing was to just kick, kick, kick and kick and he expect referee to over look? Yesterday was not different either, the referee was just trying to stay away from the spot light. 2 players in the Madrid team deserved a red card yesterday. Cavalho and Diarra but no one is saying anything about it.

The best team won
Re: Must Barca Cheat To Win! by montelik(m): 9:48am On May 04, 2011
hisoccer:

Bacra is a great club any time any day but still remains a cheat, ! WHY?
Keep wondering, while they keep amassing plaudits.
Re: Must Barca Cheat To Win! by baslone: 10:46am On May 04, 2011
Perhaps more than any other Champions League tie in recent history, the clash between
Barcelona and Real Madrid sparked a media frenzy that has rarely been seen before. The
occasion of a Clasico is always a special one, but these two fixtures were played out in unique
circumstances as the clubs entered the games having met recently in two vital domestic clashes.

In the La Liga stalemate at the Bernabeu, bad blood had been drawn from the fixture, and
this escalated further as the capital club picked up the Copa del Rey via a Cristiano Ronaldo
extra-time header. With these heated encounters as the backdrop to two even more important
meetings, it was no surprise that there was no love lost between the teams.

During the Copa final, Barcelona saw Pedro have a goal disallowed for offside. Speaking in
his pre-match press conference prior to the first leg, Mourinho stated: “It's not about the referee.”

The Real Madrid boss provoked an angry reaction from the usually placid Guardiola. “In this
room [the press area] he's the f**king chief, the f**king boss, and I can never compete with
that,” the Catalan coach responded, setting the tone for an encounter that would also get ugly on the field.

In the build up to the opening game, Mourinho revealed his motivational tactics were drawn
from the words of Albert Einstein. “I simply told my players - they're not my words, they're the
words of a chap called Albert, Albert Einstein - that the only force stronger than steam, electricity
or atomic energy is human will,” he told reporters, though many observers would comment that
Madrid’s tactics in the first-leg drew from brawn rather than brains.

Madrid certainly lost their cool in the Bernabeu after German referee Wolfgang Stark dismissed
Pepe, acting as the catalyst to a 2-0 loss. “His decision [to send off Pepe] was completely decisive.
We had chances but the game was as he wanted,” Xabi Alonso cried, rather blatantly contradicting
the prediction of his coach from only days earlier.

But the most remarkable outburst would come from the Portuguese boss, who was himself sent
to the stands for his reaction to the red card, though it would be his post-match tirade that would
catch the headlines.

“Sometimes, it's disgusting to live in this world,” he blurted. “We need an early goal in Barcelona
to get back in the tie, but even if we manage to do that, they'll just kill our chances again, Uefa
doesn't allow any team to really do something against them.

“Guardiola is a great coach, but I'd be embarrassed if I'd won the tournament like that after the
scandal at Stamford Bridge [two years ago],” the two-time European champion continued, not
doing his own standing any favours in the eyes of neutrals. “He deserves to win the Champions
League in normal fashion. You'd want him to achieve that, because he's a great person and I have
a lot of respect for him.”

Meanwhile, Guardiola was happy to ruminate over his side’s chances of reaching Wembley, but
he would not be drawn into commenting on his opposite number. “I have nothing to say,” he stated.

The first-leg was far from the beautiful affair that the footballing fraternity had wanted, drawing
comment from far and wide.

“It was bad, very bad,” Jorge Messi, Lionel’s father, explained to Goal.com Spain when considering
Mourinho’s comments, though he was happy to take a light-hearted tone after revealing his first leg
prediction of 2-0 to Barca, with his son scoring both goals. “Paul the Octopus is useless, you have to listen to me!”

Rio Ferdinand, a possible opponent of Barcelona in the final, was scathing of the event,
tweeting: “This diving is a joke - embarrassing.”

The Manchester United centre-back then continued, “If you ever see me go off on a stretcher then run back
on to play, I give everyone on here the green light to hit me with a two-footed tackle.” Barca’s eyes will doubtless
be trained intently on the Red Devils’ forthcoming games.

While Barcelona’s players were gagged to some extent prior to the second-leg, the repercussions of the first-leg
defeat were still being felt in the capital, with former club president Ramon Calderon critical of Mourinho’s influence
at the White House. “Mourinho is the owner of the club,” he blasted, before describing the Portuguese’s previous
outburst as “shameful”.

Criticism was not just forthcoming from within Spain; respected coach Ottmar Hitzfeld, who now leads Switzerland,
said: “Mourinho has damaged the reputation and image of a legendary club, Barca should make him pay on the pitch.”

Back on the Iberian Peninsula, Barcelona indicated their eagerness to simply prove their worth on the field. “We
must not get into a war of words with Mourinho,” Xavi declared during a press conference on Monday.

But Madrid had appealed to Uefa to have as many as six Barca players banned for the second leg following a series
of rows in the tempestuous first meeting. This drew a frustrated response from Guardiola, even after European football’s
governing body rejected the appeal. “Real Madrid have 109 years of history but they do not have the power to decide
who plays and who doesn’t, it is decided by Uefa,” he affirmed.

Jose Mourinho, meanwhile, made his statement by his silence.

After a scoreless first half at Camp Nou, former Italy striker Gianluca Vialli offered a frank assessment of why he
feels Messi is the world’s best player. “Ronaldo is a great player, but when the team really needs him in the big
knockout games he doesn’t do it. He goes asleep. This is the difference between Ronaldo and Messi,” he told Sky
Sport Italia during the half-time interval.

Neither Messi nor Ronaldo would go on to have a decisive impact in the second leg, which finished level at 1-1, leaving
the hosts to celebrate their progression and Madrid to pick further holes in the officiating after Gonzalo Higuain had an
effort chopped off.

Andres Iniesta captured the mood of the home side by explaining: “This is a unique moment. The fact that we're in
a final having beaten an opponent as strong as Real Madrid means a lot.

“Going beyond the rivalry, beyond fighting for your own interests, fair play must take precedence. I just want to talk
about football and not about non-sporting matters.”

The theme of injustice prevailed once more for the opposition, however.

“Higuain's goal is nothing more. It was another [decision against us], like always,” Iker Casillas told the media. “It's
not normal to get so much help.”

Rarely can a two-legged tie have caused such a polemic, further feeding one of Europe’s great sporting rivalries. And
we’ve not heard the last of this story, which is set to run and run due to the controversy and high feelings which purveyed
throughout these two games, and the two stage-setting fixtures which preceded them.
Re: Must Barca Cheat To Win! by MeGaStReEt: 5:01pm On May 04, 2011
Even Mascherano, the rugged Mascherano have become a diver, na wa ooo
Re: Must Barca Cheat To Win! by dabraska: 5:21pm On May 04, 2011
MeGaStReEt:

Even Mascherano, the rugged Mascherano have become a diver, na wa ooo

u no even see as u dey gbagaun sef? common sense is scarce to some pple sha, buh all d same we r in wembley!!!! LETS GO FINISH MAN UTD!
Re: Must Barca Cheat To Win! by MeGaStReEt: 8:39pm On May 04, 2011
dabraska:

u no even see as u dey gbagaun sef? common sense is scarce to some pple sha, buh all d same we r in wembley!!!! LETS GO FINISH MAN UTD!

You kiss craze??
Re: Must Barca Cheat To Win! by Wahala90: 11:05am On May 06, 2011
Lets get this point clear: the problem is not with bad referee decisions but a team making it a tactics to capitalise on referee's imperfection. Having your favourable share of referee mistakes is different from acting to mislead referees. Sorry, if I offend anyone.

And for those who say Mou doesn't play attacking football. Take a look at these scores:

UEFA 2009/2010
Aggregate: Inter 3-1 Chelsea
Aggregate: Inter 2-0 CSKA Moscow
Aggregate: Inter 3-2 Barca
Inter 2-0 Bayern Munich

Mou conquered Europe by scoring more than his opponents who claim to be playing attacking football. I am not a Madrid fan please.
Re: Must Barca Cheat To Win! by ddippset(m): 2:34pm On May 06, 2011
Wahala90:

Lets get this point clear: the problem is not with bad referee decisions but a team making it a tactics to capitalise on referee's imperfection. Having your favourable share of referee mistakes is different from acting to mislead referees. Sorry, if I offend anyone.

And for those who say Mou doesn't play attacking football. Take a look at these scores:

UEFA 2009/2010
Aggregate: Inter 3-1 Chelsea
Aggregate: Inter 2-0 CSKA Moscow
Aggregate: Inter 3-2 Barca
Inter 2-0 Bayern Munich

Mou conquered Europe by scoring more than his opponents who claim to be playing attacking football. I am not a Madrid fan please.

prove it you're not a madrid fan. prove it. who cares whatever fan u are anyway! attacking football is not the same as counter attacking football.
Re: Must Barca Cheat To Win! by karpenter: 3:44pm On May 06, 2011
Why do you guys hate Barca? You can love your ManU, "the special one", or Ronaldo without necessarily hating Barca and the most gifted player I have ever seen - Messi. Why all these misplaced emphasis on Barca's diving and influence on referees?

Your so called "Special One" has savoured victory just once in five meetings against Barca this season – in the Cop del Rey (which is the least important at that) – that is the fault of five different referees according to Jose Mourihno? That bloke must be a jealous and a sore loser.

Guys get serious and be real or sleep!!!! But while awake hating, Messi is busy accomplishing what he knows best: 52 goals, 27 assists and zero incidents of diving. I presume those incredible and record shattering statistics are due to referees’ supports? Jesters!!!!!
Re: Must Barca Cheat To Win! by AjanleKoko: 3:54pm On May 06, 2011
karpenter:

Why do you guys hate Barca? You can love your ManU, "the special one", or Ronaldo without necessarily hating Barca and the most gifted player I have ever seen - Messi. Why all these misplaced emphasis on Barca's diving and influence on referees?

Your so called "Special One" has savoured victory just once in five meetings against Barca this season – in the Cop del Rey (which is the least important at that) – that is the fault of five different referees according to Jose Mourihno? That bloke must be a jealous and a sore loser.

Guys get serious and be real or sleep!!!! But while awake hating, Messi is busy accomplishing what he knows best: 52 goals, 27 assists and zero incidents of diving. I presume those incredible and record shattering statistics are due to referees’ supports? Jesters!!!!!

Ask them o. We don tire grin
Re: Must Barca Cheat To Win! by ddippset(m): 3:59pm On May 06, 2011
i've said it time and time again. if any one wants to break my legs, i would dive and dive and dive and get him sent off. period.
Re: Must Barca Cheat To Win! by karpenter: 8:29am On May 10, 2011
LESSON MOURINHO CAN LEARN FROM NADAL

"But never a man to manufacture excuses for his defeats as in the case of Real Madrid’s “Special Cry Baby” Jose Mourinho, Nadal added, “He’s (Djokovic’s) playing at a really high level. We’ve got to accept that… When someone is better than you, there is nothing you can do other than congratulate him, and that’s it, and look forward to your next tournament and try to keep up, see what you’re missing, what you’re doing right and face forward with the correct attitude and with mental strength. You have to be cool, mentally speaking, and you have to look for solutions. Try to be better, try to practise and next time, I’ll try to do better.”                                      .

"Well spoken Nadal, one of the best role models any sport needs. One hopes Jose Mourinho and Cristiano Ronaldo, his fellow-sufferer of a “persecution complex,” get to read and take heed of Nadal’s philosophical and sportsmanlike attitude to inevitable occasional defeats."
By Ayo Ositelu - The Guardian.
Re: Must Barca Cheat To Win! by Wahala90: 11:05am On May 10, 2011
,  attacking football is not the same as counter attacking football.

And the rules say "counter attacking' is a sin? If those figures (facts) can not convince you then, I am sorry I don't have any other thing to convince you.
Re: Must Barca Cheat To Win! by Wahala90: 11:35am On May 10, 2011

Your so called "Special One" has savoured victory just once in five meetings against Barca this season  – in the Cop del Rey (which is the least important at that) – that is the fault of five different referees according to Jose Mourihno? That bloke must be a jealous and a sore loser.

2loss and 1win.
You talk as if Barca won the five games. Nobody complained when Barca won Madrid in their first La-Liga tie. Lets forget Madrid. What about the incident against Chelsea? Can't you see?

Good football need not go with all these "actings" as we saw Barca did. Now everybody (except Barca fans) are asking:
[center]"must Barca cheat to win"[/center]
Re: Must Barca Cheat To Win! by krawchjohn: 12:02pm On May 10, 2011
the president of uefa is barca fan, what do u xpect
Re: Must Barca Cheat To Win! by dabraska: 1:05pm On May 10, 2011
it wud hav been wise 2 read prev comments b4 postn here!! ur questions mite hv jst been answered!,
now mr wahala wateva, durin those tyms mou defeated those teams, did he do dat wif 7 defenders, y did he hv to play ultra-defensiv? d 2nd champs league leg was jst an evidence dat we barca hv weak points if u can rush us, we drew dat match 1-1 and it mite hv even gone madrid's way, did they play lyk dat thruout d 4 meetins? NO!
secondly, u r mentionin chelsea, wen Guus Hiddink himself came out to say d only claim on penalty was d one on Eto and it was ball-to-hand, my question is, must u rely on d ref 2 favor u? y cant u score nd stop complainin about d ref? all goals we scored were clean goals and hw do u beat a club? is it nt by goals? madrid scored 3 goals overall in 5 matches.
We scored 9! wat did dat tell u? is dat a side dat wanted 2 attack? even remove d 1st match whr we beat dem 5-0, he still hav 4 in 4 matches, so pls, I know Mourinho has learnt 4rm his mistakes buh his fans r too blind to see,
i bliv ur a chelsea fan, look at chelsea's migration from an ultra-defensiv side to a far much more attackin side
And if u dnt noe u and dis poster r d only ones askin dis question cus all coaches dat hav been interviewed hav supported barca, my own question is,
MUST MOU-coached CLUBS complain afta being defeated
Re: Must Barca Cheat To Win! by dayokanu(m): 3:51pm On May 10, 2011
krawchjohn:

the president of uefa is barca fan, what do u xpect



Stop lying through your teeth, platini is a Juventus fan.


BUSQUETS MOM

Re: Must Barca Cheat To Win! by bash673(m): 2:35am On May 21, 2011
dayokanu:


Stop lying through your teeth, platini is a Juventus fan.


BUSQUETS MOM




LOL, So its in his blood.

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