You guys are taking this to a while new level

Seriously though, its unlikely any of these dudes would take payment in kind - they love money too much

^^^

They would probably collect the tithes in cash and collect the one 'in kind' as an additional offering.

KunleOshob:

^^^

They would probably collect the tithes in cash and collect the one 'in kind' as an additional offering.

Love offering

(Hebrews 5:11-14)
Of whom we have many things to say, and hard to be uttered, seeing ye are dull of hearing.
For when for the time ye ought to be teachers, ye have need that one teach you again which be the first principles of the oracles of God; and are become such as have need of milk, and not of strong babe.
For every one that useth milk is unskilful in the word of righteousness: for he is a babe.
But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.

So which on are recommending for us
If the ones you mention are satanic
pls waiting for your recommendation

They would probably collect the tithes in cash and collect the one 'in kind' as an additional offering.

KunleOshob:

^^^

They would probably collect the tithes in cash and collect the one 'in kind' as an additional offering.

LMAO. Too funny.

inedi

So which on are recommending for us
If the ones you mention are satanic
pls waiting for your recommendation

[size=15pt]I will not recommend anyone of these pastors to you, my advice is for you to be extra vigilant if you have any dealings with these pastors and also remember the warning Jesus has already given us - "you are like a sheep in the midst of wolves, so be wise as serpents and innocent as doves", when you attend these penticostal or penterascal churches.[/size]

MrBible:

[size=15pt]How do you tell which ones are wolves and which ones are not? If this female student took them all as wolves the pastor's satanic spirit would not have removed her pants. May The Good Lord comfort and deliver this young female student from what this satanic agent has done to her.

Holy Spirit removed her pants — Says pastor accused of having sex with student inside the church:
http://www.tribune.com.ng/sun/index.php/features/918-holy-spirit-removed-her-pants-says-pastor-accused-of-having-sex-with-student-inside-the-church[/size]

The problem is that, people don't have time for Bible any-more, they don't known the words of God, how can they known the fake pastors? Many christians now only read the books psalms and that is all, many yong boys & girls now are fornicators with their boy or girl friends, now tell me, how can they posses the spirit of GOD so as to discover fake pastors & prophets? You see! Until they change, if not" No excuse in HEAVEN.

MISHIGAS!

Not all Pastors are satanic agents.

Most are, but not all.

There are a remnant who are still standing on the word of God.

DO YOU KNOW WHAT WOULD BE REALLY HELPFUL AND USEFUL, HERE?

A short list of Pastors whom you consider "not Satanic Agents!!!"

To say that you know that there are "True Pastors," but refusing to tell us who they are, IS THE SAME AS BEING THEIR ENEMIES, AND THE ENEMIES OF THOSE WHO WANT TO KNOW WHO THEY ARE!

If people were selling POISONED COCA-COLA, and you knew who they were, but merely said:

"I KNOW THAT THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE SELLING GENUINE COCA-COLA- BUT I'M NOT GOING TO TELL YOU WHO THEY ARE!

Are you not helping those selling poison Coca-Cola to murder more people- when you could have stopped their trade, for once and for all?

(Actually, ALL COCA-COLA is POISON: it contains a SINK/TOILET-CLEANER, called PHOSPHORIC ACID that stops you from vomiting, from the excess Sugar content. DIET COKE is even WORSE: it contains the INSECTICIDE/NERVE CHEMICAL WEAPON ASPARTAME- that was ruled "UNFIT-FOR-HUMAN-CONSUMPTION," but overruled by DONALD RUMSFELD before he was on GEORGE W. BUSH'S Cabinet. Please look it up. He was a CEO at MONSANTO- the WEEDKILLER manufacturers.)

WHOM IS YOUR SILENCE HELPING?

In actual fact, you are a LIAR, who knows no such persons, but only speak to glorify yourself, and seem to know more than you do.

. ECCLESIASTICUS 32:8.

8. Let thy speech be short,
comprehending much
in few words;
be as one that knoweth
and yet holdeth his tongue.

UNDERSTAND THAT THAT IS A DOCTRINE OF HYPOCRITES, AND NOT THE WORD OF GOD.

. MATTHEW 23:1-15.

THEN Spake Jesus
to the multitude,
and to his Disciples,

2. Saying,

"The scribes
and the Pharisees
sit in Moses' seat:
3. "All therefore whatsoever
they bid you observe,
that observe and do;
but do not ye
after their works:
for they say, and do not.
4. "For they bind
heavy burdens
and grievous to be borne,
and lay them
on men's shoulders;
but they themselves
will not move them
with one of their fingers.
5. "But all their works
they do for to be seen of men:
they make broad their phylacteries,
and enlarge the borders
of their garments,
6. "And love the Uppermost Rooms at feasts,
and the Chief Seats
in the Synagogues,
7. "And greetings
in the markets,
and to be called of men,
'Rabbi, Rabbi.'
8. "But be not ye called 'Rabbi:'
for one is your Master,
even Christ;
and all ye are Brethren.
9. "And call no man your father upon the Earth:
for one is your Father,
Which is in Heaven.
10. "Neither be ye
called masters:
for one is your Master,
even Christ.
11. "But he that is greatest among you
shall be your servant.
12. "And whosoever shall
exalt himself
shall be abased;
and he that shall
humble himself
shall be exalted.
13. "But woe unto you,
scribes and Pharisees,
Hypocrites!
for ye shut up
The Kingdom of Heaven
against men:
for ye neither go in yourselves,
neither suffer ye them
that are entering to go in.
14. "Woe unto you,
scribes and Pharisees,
Hypocrites!
For ye devour widows' houses,
and for a pretence
make long prayer:
therefore ye shall receive
The Greater Damnation.
15. "Woe unto you,
scribes and Pharisees,
Hypocrites!
for ye compass Sea and Land
to make one proselyte,
and when he is made,
ye make him
twofold more
The Child of Hell
than yourselves."

LORD YESHUA EXPLICITLY FORBADE HIS DISCIPLES FROM BECOMING RABBIS AND MASTERS OVER HIS FOLLOWERS.

You know that Lord Yeshua SAID these things.

What good result did you expect to receive from disobeying him?

. EXODUS 21:1-6.

"Now these are the Judgments
which thou shalt set before them.
2. "If thou buy an Hebrew servant,
six years he shall serve:
and in the seventh
he shall go out free for nothing.
3. "If he came in by himself,
he shall go out by himself:
if He were married,
then his wife
shall go out with him.
4. "If his master have
given him a wife,
and she have born him
sons or daughters;
the wife and her children
shall be her master's,
and he shall go out by himself.
5. "And if the servant shall plainly say,

'I LOVE MY MASTER,
MY WIFE, AND MY CHILDREN;
I WILL NOT GO OUT FREE:'

6. "Then his master
shall bring him
unto the judges;
he shall also bring him
to the door,
or unto the door post;
and his master
shall bore his ear through
with an aul;
and he shall serve him
for ever."

THE "PASTOR" IS A FOOL WHO ENSLAVES HIMSELF TO WHOSOEVER GAVE THEM THAT MEANINGLESS TITLE.

Those who follow "Pastors" are also all fools, who somehow think that they are exempt from The Judgment of GOD, because they are following someone else. How the (*Bleep!*)ck is that supposed to work?

.   PROVERBS 26:24-28.

24. He that hateth
dissembleth with his lips,
and layeth up deceit
within him;
25. When he speaketh fair,
believe him not:
for (there are)
seven Abominations
in his heart.
26. (Whose) hatred is
covered by Deceit,
his Wickedness
shall be shewed
before the (whole) Congregation.
27. Whoso diggeth a pit
shall fall therein:
and he that rolleth a stone,
it will return upon him.
28. A lying tongue hateth
(those that are) afflicted by it;
and a Flattering Mouth
worketh Ruin.

.. LUKE 16:1-15.

AND he Said also
unto his Disciples,

"There was a certain rich man,
which had a steward;
and the same was accused unto him
that he had wasted his goods.
2. "And he called him,
and said unto him,

'HOW IS IT THAT
I HEAR THIS OF THEE?
GIVE AN ACCOUNT
OF THY STEWARDSHIP;
FOR THOU MAYEST BE
NO LONGER STEWARD.'

3. "Then the steward said
within himself,

'WHAT SHALL I DO?
FOR MY LORD
TAKETH AWAY FROM ME
THE STEWARDSHIP:
I CANNOT DIG,
TO BEG I AM ASHAMED.
4. 'I AM RESOLVED
WHAT TO DO,
THAT, WHEN I AM
PUT OUT OF THE STEWARDSHIP,
THEY MAY RECEIVE ME
INTO THEIR HOUSES.'

5. "So he called every one
of his lord's debtors unto him,
and said unto the first,

'HOW MUCH OWEST THOU
UNTO MY LORD?'

6. "And he said,

'AN HUNDRED MEASURES OF OIL.'

And he said unto him,

'TAKE THY BILL,
AND SIT DOWN QUICKLY,
AND WRITE FIFTY.'

7. "Then said he to another,

'AND HOW MUCH
OWEST THOU?'

And he said,

'AN HUNDRED MEASURES OF WHEAT.'

And he said unto him,

'TAKE THY BILL,
AND WRITE FOURSCORE.'

8. "And the lord commended
the Unjust Steward,
because he had done wisely:
for The Children of this World
are in their Generation
wiser than
The Children of Light.
9. "And I Say unto you,

'MAKE TO YOURSELVES FRIENDS
OF THE MAMMON
OF UNRIGHTEOUSNESS;
THAT, WHEN YE FAIL,
THEY MAY RECIEVE YOU
INTO EVERLASTING HABITATIONS.'

10. "He that is Faithful
in that which is Least
is Faithful also in Much:
and he that is Unjust
in the Least
is Unjust also in Much.
11. "If therefore ye
have not been Faithful
in the Unrighteous Mammon,
who will commit to your trust
The True Riches?
12. "And if ye have not
been Faithful
in that which is
another man's,
who shall give you
that which is your own?
13. "No Servant can
serve two Masters:
for either he will
hate the one,
and love the other;
or else he will
hold to the one,
and despise the other.
Ye cannot serve God and Mammon."

14. And the Pharisees also,
who were Covetous,
heard all these things,
and they derided him.
15. And he Said unto them,

"Ye are they
which justify yourselves
before Men;
but God knoweth
your hearts:
for that which is
Highly Esteemed
amongst Men
is Abomination
in The Sight of God."

ALL SLAVERY IS VOLUNTARY.

God gave Man dominion over all the Earth and Its creatures.

. GENESIS 1:26-31.

26. And God Said,

"Let us make Man
in Our Image,
after Our Likeness:
and let them have Dominion
over the Fish of the Sea,
and over the Fowl of the Air,
and over the Cattle,
and over all the Earth,
and over every creeping thing
that creepeth upon the Earth."

27. So God created Man
in His Own Image,
in The Image of God created He him;
male and female
created He them.
28. And God Blessed them,
and God Said unto them,

"Be fruitful, and multiply,
and replenish the Earth,
and subdue It:
and have Dominion
over the Fish of the Sea,
and over the Fowl of the Air,
and over every Living Thing
that moveth upon the Earth."

29. And God Said,

"Behold,
I have given you
every herb bearing seed,
which is upon
the Face of all the Earth,
and every tree,
in the which is the fruit
of a tree yielding seed;
to you it shall be for meat.
30. And to every
Beast of the Earth,
and to every fowl of the air,
and to every thing
that creepeth upon the Earth,
wherein there is life,
I have given
every green herb for meat:"

and it was so.
31. And God saw
every thing
that He had made,
and, behold,
it was Very Good.
And the evening
and the morning
were the sixth day.

LORD YESHUA GAVE MANKIND FREEDOM- IF WE REALLY WANT IT!

.    JOHN 8:28-36.

28. Then Said Jesus
unto them,

"When ye have lifted up
The Son of Man,
then shall ye know
that I am he,
and that I do
nothing of myself;
but as my Father
hath Taught me,
I Speak these things.
29. "And He that sent me
is with me:
The Father hath not
left me alone;
for I do always those things
that please Him."

30. As he Spake
these Words,
many believed on him.

31. Then Said Jesus
to those Jews
which believed on him,

"If ye continue
in my Word,
then are ye
my Disciples indeed;
32. "And ye shall
know The Truth,
and The Truth
shall make you Free."

33. They answered him,

"We be Abraham's Seed,
and were never in bondage
to any man:
how sayest thou,  

'YE SHALL BE
MADE FREE?' "

34. Jesus answered them,

"Verily, verily,
I Say unto you,

WHOSOEVER COMMITTETH SIN
IS THE SERVANT OF SIN.
35. 'AND THE SERVANT
ABIDETH NOT
IN THE HOUSE FOR EVER:
BUT THE SON
ABIDETH EVER.'

36. "If the Son therefore
shall make you free,
ye shall be free indeed."

IF YOU AND YOUR FAMILY THEREFORE REJECTED THE FREEDOM GOD OFFERS, FOR A COUNTERFEIT OF YOUR OWN CHOOSING, WHY ARE YOU NOW COMPLAINING?[/b]

. MATTHEW 7:12-29.

12. "Therefore all things
whatsoever ye would
that men should do to you,
do ye even so to them:
for this is The Law
and The Prophets.
13. "Enter ye in
at the strait Gate:
for wide is the Gate,
and broad is the Way,
that leadeth to Destruction,
and many there be
which go in thereat:
14. "Because strait is the gate,
and narrow is the Way,
which leadeth unto Life,
and few there be
that find It.
15. Beware of False Prophets,
which come to you
in sheep's clothing,
but inwardly they are
ravening wolves.
16. "Ye shall know them
by their fruits.
Do men gather grapes
of thorns,
or figs of thistles?
17. "Even so every Good Tree
bringeth forth Good Fruit;
but a Corrupt Tree
bringeth forth Evil Fruit.
18. "A Good Tree
cannot bring forth Evil Fruit,
neither can a Corrupt Tree
bring forth Good Fruit.
19. "Every Tree that
bringeth not forth Good Fruit
is hewn down,
and cast into the fire.
20. "Wherefore by their Fruits
ye shall know them.
21. "Not every one
that saith unto me,
'Lord, Lord,' shall enter into
The Kingdom of Heaven;
but he that doeth
The Will of my Father,
Which is in Heaven.
22. "Many will say to me
in That Day,

'LORD, LORD,
HAVE WE NOT
PROPHESIED IN THY NAME?
AND IN THY NAME
HAVE CAST OUT DEVILS?
AND IN THY NAME
DONE MANY
WONDERFUL WORKS?'

23. "And then will I
profess unto them,

'I NEVER KNEW YOU:
DEPART FROM ME,
YE THAT WORK INIQUITY.'

24. "Therefore whosoever
heareth these Sayings of mine,
and doeth them,
I will liken him unto
a Wise man,
which built his house
upon a rock:
25. "And the rain descended,
and the floods came,
and the winds blew,
and beat upon that house;
and it fell not:
for it was founded
upon a rock.
26. "And every one
that heareth these Sayings
of mine,
and doeth them not,
shall be likened unto
a Foolish man,
which built his house
upon the sand:
27. "And the rain descended,
and the floods came,
and the winds blew,
and beat upon that house;
and it fell:
and great was the fall of it."

28. And it came to pass,
when Jesus had ended
these Sayings,
the people were
astonished at his Doctrine:
29. For he Taught them
as (one) having Authority,
and not as the Scribes.

YOU ARE FINDING THAT YOUR ADULTERATED ADULTEROUS SYSTEM IS NOT WORKING OUT FOR YOU.

You see that it is destroying you, not building you.

LORD YESHUA EXPLICITLY FORBADE HIS DISCIPLES FROM BECOMING "PASTORS."

Every "PASTOR" Teaches their Followers to ignore the Lord's explicit Commandment.

How can GOOD come put of that EVIL FRUIT?

In The Book of Revelation, Lord Yeshua addressed the seven levels of Churches.

None of them were OVERCOMERS.

Church leadership, invented by the "APOSTLES," had not Saved them. That is not how the Lord planned for Christians to achieve Edification.

Clergy are a corruption from Satan, not a Blessing from God.

Explain pls, @op

I'm so glad that Jesus is the way.