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Re: Can You Explain How If Everything Has A Cause You Then Have Free Will? by Workch: 4:35pm On Nov 07, 2021 |
Crystyano:Check up on it |
Re: Can You Explain How If Everything Has A Cause You Then Have Free Will? by Workch: 4:36pm On Nov 07, 2021 |
TenQ:The Christian go d is well defined as omniscience, omnipotent and omnipresent. All has been tested to be false. Flying Spaghetti Monster claimed to create the Christian god, it’s true since we can’t test it yet |
Re: Can You Explain How If Everything Has A Cause You Then Have Free Will? by LordReed(m): 4:40pm On Nov 07, 2021 |
Myer: I think men have wills but they are not free. I think our wills exist within the complex interactions of the universe which means any given choice is subject to conditions and pressures both known and unknown that influence the outcome of the choice. I think it is a misnomer to say that our wills are free given the fact that we don't know all the factors that contribute to the choices we make. I think we can be satisfied that given our present circumstances we can safely assume our wills correspond with what we also assume is our personal direction. 1 Like |
Re: Can You Explain How If Everything Has A Cause You Then Have Free Will? by TenQ: 4:48pm On Nov 07, 2021 |
Workch:Please add A Spirit Being with no known physical form the Foundation and Source of Everything. Which instrument did you use to test God the Creator? |
Re: Can You Explain How If Everything Has A Cause You Then Have Free Will? by LordReed(m): 4:59pm On Nov 07, 2021 |
TenQ: It doesn't matter what you call yourself, that's the compatibilist position. |
Re: Can You Explain How If Everything Has A Cause You Then Have Free Will? by Workch: 5:00pm On Nov 07, 2021 |
TenQ:We don’t have an instrument so just like the Christian god, Flying Spaghetti Monster must be real |
Re: Can You Explain How If Everything Has A Cause You Then Have Free Will? by TenQ: 5:05pm On Nov 07, 2021 |
Workch:Spaghetti is made from wheat pasta! |
Re: Can You Explain How If Everything Has A Cause You Then Have Free Will? by Workch: 5:05pm On Nov 07, 2021 |
TenQ:No, not the normal one, the spiritual Spaghetti that cannot be tested |
Re: Can You Explain How If Everything Has A Cause You Then Have Free Will? by TenQ: 5:06pm On Nov 07, 2021 |
LordReed:What is your own position of Freewill and Determinism? |
Re: Can You Explain How If Everything Has A Cause You Then Have Free Will? by LordReed(m): 5:11pm On Nov 07, 2021 |
TenQ: I would say I am a compatibilist. |
Re: Can You Explain How If Everything Has A Cause You Then Have Free Will? by Nobody: 6:18pm On Nov 07, 2021 |
Workch: It's of no use Your nothing is real and there's nothing I can do about it But I will be grateful if you can help me with 3000naira. Please..... |
Re: Can You Explain How If Everything Has A Cause You Then Have Free Will? by TenQ: 7:01pm On Nov 07, 2021 |
LordReed:I thought you didn't believe in people having freewill? |
Re: Can You Explain How If Everything Has A Cause You Then Have Free Will? by TenQ: 7:02pm On Nov 07, 2021 |
Workch:We all know how spaghetti is made now? Pasta from flour! |
Re: Can You Explain How If Everything Has A Cause You Then Have Free Will? by Workch: 7:14pm On Nov 07, 2021 |
TenQ:Not that one, this one is made of spiritual flour that science cannot test. The tool to test this spiritual flour hasn't been developed, just as the tool to test Christian god |
Re: Can You Explain How If Everything Has A Cause You Then Have Free Will? by TenQ: 7:54pm On Nov 07, 2021 |
Workch:As long as it is spaghetti, we know what it is made up of Pasta Flour (from wheat) |
Re: Can You Explain How If Everything Has A Cause You Then Have Free Will? by Workch: 8:19pm On Nov 07, 2021 |
TenQ:he works in mysterious ways, you will think it's normal spaghetti but because you don't understand him, you will not know that it is a supernatural spaghetti that created the Christian god |
Re: Can You Explain How If Everything Has A Cause You Then Have Free Will? by LordReed(m): 8:37pm On Nov 07, 2021 |
TenQ: Yeah I think we have wills but I don't think they are free. |
Re: Can You Explain How If Everything Has A Cause You Then Have Free Will? by TenQ: 9:03pm On Nov 07, 2021 |
LordReed:If a free will does not have any constraints, then it could do EVERYTHING. Like, I can will myself to Jupiter and Mars I can will myself to becoming the Richest man in the Universe I can will myself to Live forever Unfortunately, there are so many factors against the fulfilment of just any will of man, from Gravity, Temperature, Money, Laws of Nature, etc Why do soldiers continue fighting even when they are low on both ration and ammunition? Why do people commit suicide while others in worse situation continue living against all odds? Why do 10 politicians contest for a post knowing that only one person would be chosen? Every will is BOUNDED by limited Possibilities within which it is free to operate If I cannot exercise my will to build my house on the surface of the Sun, is this an evidence that my will is not Free OR that I am attempting to do that which is beyond my capabilities and outside the sphere of control?. |
Re: Can You Explain How If Everything Has A Cause You Then Have Free Will? by TenQ: 9:10pm On Nov 07, 2021 |
Workch:Spaghetti is spaghetti. It doesn't matter if it is coloured, uncooked, cooked, fried or flying |
Re: Can You Explain How If Everything Has A Cause You Then Have Free Will? by Workch: 9:24pm On Nov 07, 2021 |
TenQ:Supernatural spaghetti exist. We don't have the tools to test it. |
Re: Can You Explain How If Everything Has A Cause You Then Have Free Will? by TenQ: 10:05pm On Nov 07, 2021 |
Workch:Spaghetti...yum yum!! |
Re: Can You Explain How If Everything Has A Cause You Then Have Free Will? by Workch: 6:33am On Nov 08, 2021 |
TenQ:he created Christian god. You have to accept that as well |
Re: Can You Explain How If Everything Has A Cause You Then Have Free Will? by TenQ: 8:11am On Nov 08, 2021 |
Workch:I can only laugh at your thrashing about for straws to grab. We know what to do with spaghetti: it is for eating! 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Can You Explain How If Everything Has A Cause You Then Have Free Will? by Workch: 10:00am On Nov 08, 2021 |
TenQ:It's not straw, is Russell's teapot. If you God exist, there's no basis to say the flying spaghetti monster doesn't |
Re: Can You Explain How If Everything Has A Cause You Then Have Free Will? by elated177: 10:49am On Nov 08, 2021 |
Workch: Where did you get the bolded from? |
Re: Can You Explain How If Everything Has A Cause You Then Have Free Will? by Workch: 12:22pm On Nov 08, 2021 |
elated177:Visit any quantum physics text or just read the book “something from nothing” bu theoretical physicist Lawrence Krauss. There is also an experiment that ignited photons from nothing in a vacuum. |
Re: Can You Explain How If Everything Has A Cause You Then Have Free Will? by TenQ: 12:47pm On Nov 08, 2021 |
Workch:You don't get the point. If it is spaghetti, no matter its kind, its simply FOOD to be eaten. QED! 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Can You Explain How If Everything Has A Cause You Then Have Free Will? by elated177: 3:28pm On Nov 08, 2021 |
Workch: Ehehehehe! I thought you had seen it happen before. |
Re: Can You Explain How If Everything Has A Cause You Then Have Free Will? by Workch: 3:32pm On Nov 08, 2021 |
elated177:I have not seen electromagnetic field before as well, but I know how it works by reading physics and I know it works because that's what phones use to send signals. Its same way quantum computer works with what I just explained, you don't have to see it before knowing the mechanism of action. You just need basic science knowledge |
Re: Can You Explain How If Everything Has A Cause You Then Have Free Will? by Workch: 3:33pm On Nov 08, 2021 |
TenQ:its a spiritual food you cannot test. You see that it's mysterious because the lord flying spaghetti monster works in mysterious ways. Science cannot test such. It's more mysterious to find you that this spiritual food created your God. Because you don't know doesn't mean it's not true Because you have not tested it doesn't mean it doesn't exist just like your God |
Re: Can You Explain How If Everything Has A Cause You Then Have Free Will? by elated177: 3:42pm On Nov 08, 2021 |
Workch: Mtcheeew! |
Re: Can You Explain How If Everything Has A Cause You Then Have Free Will? by Workch: 3:46pm On Nov 08, 2021 |
elated177:lol , what's your problem? |
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