justwise:

I think its the other way round, Nigerians at home send out more scam-emails than those abroad. The number of Nigerians abroad who are into scam or other form of crimes are slow compare to those operating from Nigeria.

JeSoul:


Nigerians abroad get to interact directly with foreign nationals. If he does one foreigner wrong - that foreigner will have negative views of all nigerians and will tell their friends, families etc. The email scams really, like really put us on the map - negatively. It is now a common joke in movies, tv shows, comedys about Nigeria and email scams . . . sucks.

Also one famous Nigerian can ruin it for everyone - Mutallab. Everytime Nigeria is mentioned it is now associated with terrorism. No one will remember that his father tried to help though, they'll only remember the bad.

iice, wassup now?

justwise:

Yes u made some good points there, but some Nigerians abroad have the opportunity as well to prove to foreigners that we are not all about scam emails they receive in their inbox.

Nigerians abroad will be afraid of been caught than Nigerians at home who give no monkey about sending those scam emails to random pple abroad, if they are caught, they can bribe their way out of it.

JeSoul i dey ooo.
You? Hope you've seen Transformers

JeSoul:

Also one famous Nigerian can ruin it for everyone - Mutallab. Everytime Nigeria is mentioned it is now associated with terrorism. No one will remember that his father tried to help though, they'll only remember the bad.

iice:

JeSoul i dey ooo.
You? Hope you've seen Transformers

You know it's easier to remember the bad. Like languages. . .most people tend to pick up the bad words first especially if the people around use it. Same with deeds. Yes it may start of with the good side when others recount and then there will be a 'but', then it ends with the bad.

I think its the other way round, Nigerians at home send out more scam-emails than those abroad. The number of Nigerians abroad who are into scam or other form of crimes are slow compare to those operating from Nigeria.

Yes u made some good points there, but some Nigerians abroad have the opportunity as well to prove to foreigners that we are not all about scam emails they receive in their inbox.

Nigerians abroad will be afraid of been caught than Nigerians at home who give no monkey about sending those scam emails to random pple abroad, if they are caught, they can bribe their way out of it.

collinsfbi:

Yes Nigerians abroad have the opportunity to prove to foreigners but how do we justify the proof with rampant News of Nigerians caught everyday with one offence or the other. Not quite long, there was a story of Nigerian caught in US with hundreds of fake IDs, there was another one who stole abt 600,000 pounds or thereabout with 128 fake IDs and on 6th of this month barely few days ago another Nigerian identified with German National was caught in UK to have swallowed 101 packets of cocaine which contained a total of 1.27kg. How do Nigerians abroad prove these entire stigmas attached to the name “Nigeria”?

Believe it or not, but for every 1 Nigerian flashed across the media for indulging in scam, there are at least 1000 Nigerians engaging in legitimate business overseas (students, workers e.t.c.) who are not being eulogised by the media. The western media for reasons best known to them tend to focus on the few Nigerians who are into scams, and black out the majority of Nigerians setting legitimate world records at their places of study or work.

It is merely an issue of conjecture for anyone to say that Nigerians abroad are the ones bring disrepute to the Nigerian image, because there are no valid studies to evaluate this claim. In my opinion, both Nigerians abroad and Nigerians at home have a joint role to play in dirtying our image, the same way to both have joint roles to play in cleaning up our image. It is foolhardy to suggest that one party is holistically responsible, at the detriment of the other.

How many foreigners have been kidnapped or shot dead in Nigeria in recent yrs? How many bombs have gone off in Nigeria in recent yrs? How many politicians have been arrested or jailed in recent yrs for massive fraud?

What good does bombing, kidnapping, fraud and killing do to Nigeria image? All these crimes are committed by Nigerians based in Nigeria.

Yes Nigeria IP addresses are not accepted by some company but that wouldn't stop Nigerians at home from sending scam emails or committing romance scams or posting fake traveler's check.

collinsfbi:

The kidnapping and bombing issue are socio-political problems which have its link to the Federal Government of Nigeria. Don't forget that as we have issue regarding kidnapping and bombing in Nigerian so also we have it in Asian and some part of Europe. Can you also tell me how many foreigners that have been kidnapped or shot dead in countries like Iraq, Iran, Pakistan, Libya, Liberia, even in the United State. All these are happening because pple are fighting for their right and this is diff from pple who sit in one place abroad looking for one way or ther other to defraud another human being. Those involve in some of these things in Nigeria are realling suffering compare to those enjoy abroad.

collinsfbi:

No doubt about that, as we hundreds of those involved in criminal activities so also we have thousands and millions Nigerians engaging in legitimate business but do you think Western Media have any reason why they are focusing on Nigeria? Why not Ghana or other black African countries? If you can't tell me then you are bias in your contribution.
I don't think you take your time to read the first post because if you do then you will know that am not saying that Nigerians abroad are the only ones bringing disgrace to Nigeria. At the same time, there may be no valid studies to evaluate this as you think but don't forget that observation is one of the valid methods used in evaluation with valid referencing[/b][/color]. Let me draw your attention to the fact that Nigerians abroad are at the front wall of attention than the home stay. A lot are actual happen here which Nigeria media do not want to expose but whatever happens to any Nigerians abroad will always attract international attention. Think about this….

Gbammmmmmmmmmmmmm over and out

collinsfbi:

All these are happening because pple are fighting for their right [/b]and this is diff from pple who sit in one place abroad looking for one way or ther other to defraud another human being. Those involve in some of these things in Nigeria are realling suffering compare to those enjoy abroad.
It does not good and it's against God's will [b]but can be justified.

We are talking about crimes that tarnish Nigerian image, bombing or kidnapping in Iraq, Libya or Pakistan got nothing to do with Nigeria, it wouldn't affect Nigeria's image, but bombing carried out by Boko Haram or MEND does tarnish Nigeria image around the world. Kidnapping of oil workers and other foreign visitors does tarnish Nigeria image.

Observation by who? You?! My point is you can't just make fallacious statements on the basis of your so-called "observation", which in this case I believe means watching your television with a pint of beer and crisps. What is scientific about that?!
Nigeria is the largest black nation on earth, 1 in 6 black persons are Nigerians. I don't have to be an arm chair observer or a rocket scientist to know that the probability of a black criminal being linked to Nigeria is higher than that of the probability of being linked to Ghana or other African countries. Surely, I don't need to "observe" the television and radio with a pint of beer and pack of crisps to know this apparent fact?!

collinsfbi:

A socio-polictical problem will for ever remain a socio-political problems. It does tarnish the image of Nigeria as we do have it in Iraq, Iran, Pakistan, Libya but how many nationals of these countries do you hear of their rampant involvement in criminal activities on a regularly basis across the world?

collinsfbi:

A socio-polictical problem will for ever remain a socio-political problems. It does tarnish the image of Nigeria as we do have it in Iraq, Iran, Pakistan, Libya but how many nationals of these countries do you hear of their rampant involvement in criminal activities on a regularly basis across the world?
Your comment only show the limit of your knowledge (no offence pls) I ask you, is it every observation method used in research project that involve scientific hypothesis in arriving at the final result. Why are you shying away from the fact for crying out loud, this is simply experiential? Are Nigerians the only black national across the world? Are these pple mistakenly place arrest on Nigerians on a daily basis? Don't we have other black nationals in those in Uk, US, Asia and other places? Why the media continuous emphasis on Nigerians abroad? I can see you have no point other than defending Nigerians abroad.

Gbammmmmmmmmmmmmmmm over and out

This section of your post got me worried. collinsfbi tell me this: How can you in million yrs justify bombing innocent pple? How can you possibly give excuses for terrible crime such as killing of completely innocent Nigerians?

What right does Boko Haram or MEND has to kill me or other Nigerians to justify their political or religious views?

Give me half a reason why poverty could be used as an excuse to scam a foreigner.

Experiental?! again by who? You did not answer the first question I posed about who conducted the "observation" which you used to draw your apparent conclusion that Nigerians abroad pollute our image more than home stay. Who has been doing the "observation", and what has the person been "observing" to draw that conclusion is a simple question to answer really, why dodge it?

kollinsfbi:


I wonder if pple like you read my first post or understand the discussion here before dabbling into comments. I do not need to answer your question again because the answer you seek has already been given in my first post. The theories you studied in school were created and developed by human being like me. Listen and listen good, you can not used socio-political problems to measure a countries' level of involvement in criminal activities. Some of these killing are referred to as Homicide in the law court which has a broader explanation than ordinary murder. Stop being imprudent and face the truth. You are so funny to have talked about science in what is real, huh how would you want to use science to carry our investigation on this issue? I am a scholar and I am very proud of myself in what I do.

Gbammmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm over and out

kollinsfbi:
The section that got you worried much is what i like much. If you are indeed a true Nigerian you will know that Federal Government of Nigeria has to be blamed for killing in the Niger-Delta and the Kidnapping issue. Google 1999 Odi massacre in Bayelsa state. November 20 1999 was recorded as a red-letter day for the oil-rich village of Odi when Federal Govt troop clear almost a whole village for agitating for their right. 90% the pple from most of these oil-producing states are suffering and there is nobody to fight for them and in that case they have to fight for themselves. I wonder if you even know anything about Nigeria History, have you forgotten what Federal Govt did to Ken Saro Wiwa on 10th November 1995? What the militants did in the Niger-Delta can it be compared to the killing and bombing carried out alone in Libya as a result of the stubborn Muammar Gaddafi alone? When you sit over there enjoy yourself, how would you know what some pple here are facing? For your information, blood has to be shed before Nigeria can be a better place. How will some from Europe or America come to enjoying what indigenous pple are suffering from? If you were in their shoe, would you prefer to die wretched and can you compare the agitation of this pple with those pollute nigeria abroad? Stop being defensive and hit the nail on the head. Gbammmmmmmmmmmmmmmm over and out

I'm indeed delighted to talk to a fellow "scholar", but on this occasion my delight is carried with mixed feelings. Where on earth is an objective research performed by observation of events of public media? I do believe you are aware that the media you draw your observation from are heavily biased for for hydra-headed reasons, which may lead to you drawing a subjective conclusion that is not worth the paper it is printed on in the realm of it's peers.

I will agree whole-heartedly with you if you had posited that your post represents your own [s]NON-scientific personal opinion on this issue[/s], but I disagree when you use terms like "observation" and "experiental" to portray some form of a scientific rationale for your conclusions. It is obvious that you are simply speaking your mind in the same way an arm chair football critic would, but don't try to impute any form of [s]scientific reasoning into it because your post lacks a single modicum of scientific research[/s]; therefore your conclusions can be said to be no more than just another "old wives fable" or at most, just another "tales by moonlight story"

I probably know more about 1999 Odi incident than the one-sided propaganda you just wrote, yes many villagers were killed that was because some police officers were killed by some Villagers which prompted the sad incident, now, i will never justify any killing unlike you that sees killing as a way of fighting for 'right'. In Oct 1st last yr, MEND bombed Independent day celebration killing 12 innocent Nigerians, no police, military or politician were killed, to you that is accepted cos MEND are fighting for their 'right'?

Do you think that Nigerians working in places like Libya or other oil producing countries should be killed by the citizens cos their govt are not looking after them? How many villagers have MEND help with the money they made from kidnapping and illegal oil deals? What 'right' is Boko Haram fighting for?

When some old-fashioned, hot-air blowers like you talk about blood shedding i laugh because if you are called to give your blood in a way of fighting for 'right' you will take the next available flight to Ghana

iice:

Mango tree will always bear mango unless propagated abi na genetically engineered.