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Prophet Muhammad Was Not The First Muslim by IbileIfe: 10:29pm On Jun 24, 2022
‘We brought the tribe of Israel across the sea, and Pharaoh and his troops pursued them out of tyranny and enmity. Then, when he was on the point of drowning, he [Pharaoh] said: ‘I believe that there is no god but Him in Whom the tribe of Israel believes. I am one of the Muslims.’

(reference : surah yusuf, verse 90 ; 10:90)

‘What, now! When previously you rebelled and were one of the corrupters? Today we will preserve your body so you can be a Sign for people who come after you. Surely many people are heedless of Our Signs’

(reference : surah yusuf, verse 91–92 ; 10:91–92)

Re: Prophet Muhammad Was Not The First Muslim by gracealonev: 11:30pm On Jun 24, 2022
So Pharaoh later believed in Jehovah the GOD of Israel, and that makes him a Muslim. Quite contradictory and controversial.

Hmnn.

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Re: Prophet Muhammad Was Not The First Muslim by Wilgrea7(m): 4:57am On Jun 25, 2022
This is circular reasoning.

You're claiming the Pharoah was a muslim based on a muslim text that supports the idea which claims that the Pharoah was a Muslim.

It's circular reasoning. A more credible source would be an independent historical document on the life of Pharoah.

Secondly, the idea of claiming that anyone who existed before the time of the prophet Muhammad was a Muslim is simply word gymnastics at play.

The whole concept of Islam revolves not just around believing in a singular god (many religions did that). It centers on following the Islamic texts, and accepting the prophet Muhammad as one of the prophets of said god.

Anyone who existed before his time could not have satisfied those criteria, and is therefore not a Muslim.

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Re: Prophet Muhammad Was Not The First Muslim by RoyalDiadems: 5:36am On Jun 25, 2022
Wilgrea7:
This is circular reasoning.

You're claiming the Pharoah was a muslim based on a muslim text that supports the idea which claims that the Pharoah was a Muslim.

It's circular reasoning. A more credible source would be an independent historical document on the life of Pharoah.

Secondly, the idea of claiming that anyone who existed before the time of the prophet Muhammad was a Muslim is simply word gymnastics at play.

The whole concept of Islam revolves not just around believing in a singular god (many religions did that). It centers on following the Islamic texts, and accepting the prophet Muhammad as one of the prophets of said god.

Anyone who existed before his time could not have satisfied those criteria, and is therefore not a Muslim.

Let them keep deceiving themselves. They even said Abraham was a Muslim. Hahahahaha.
Re: Prophet Muhammad Was Not The First Muslim by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:41am On Jun 25, 2022
The word MUSLIM simply means BELIEVER there's nothing special other than the stories attached to each religion, so faithful servants of God are Muslims in Arabic language but the irony of the matter is that they never had anything to do with Mecca or the Black Stone there! wink

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Re: Prophet Muhammad Was Not The First Muslim by IbileIfe: 8:34pm On Jun 25, 2022
Wilgrea7:
This is circular reasoning.

You're claiming the Pharoah was a muslim based on a muslim text that supports the idea which claims that the Pharoah was a Muslim.

It's circular reasoning. A more credible source would be an independent historical document on the life of Pharoah.

Secondly, the idea of claiming that anyone who existed before the time of the prophet Muhammad was a Muslim is simply word gymnastics at play.

The whole concept of Islam revolves not just around believing in a singular god (many religions did that). It centers on following the Islamic texts, and accepting the prophet Muhammad as one of the prophets of said god.

Anyone who existed before his time could not have satisfied those criteria, and is therefore not a Muslim.

You don't know the premise of this topic . But since I simply quoted the Islamic scriptures, then you should understand that false religion is a product of falsehood.

The Torah mentioned that the Pharaoh of Egypt was two different kings and not one, which contradicts with the teachings of the holy Quran as it mentions the Pharaoh of Egypt as one person.

https://www.egypttoday.com/Article/4/88282/Who-is-the-Pharaoh-of-Prophet-Moses
Re: Prophet Muhammad Was Not The First Muslim by IbileIfe: 8:41pm On Jun 25, 2022
RoyalDiadems:


Let them keep deceiving themselves. They even said Abraham was a Muslim. Hahahahaha.
False religion is a product of falsehood.

Matthew 7:16-20

16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?

17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.

18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.

19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.

20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.

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Re: Prophet Muhammad Was Not The First Muslim by IbileIfe: 8:44pm On Jun 25, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
The word MUSLIM simply means BELIEVER there's nothing special other than the stories attached to each religion, so faithful servants of God are Muslims in Arabic language but the irony of the matter is that they never had anything to do with Mecca or the Black Stone there! wink

Re: Prophet Muhammad Was Not The First Muslim by RepoMan007: 9:45pm On Jun 25, 2022
Wilgrea7:
This is circular reasoning.

You're claiming the Pharoah was a muslim based on a muslim text that supports the idea which claims that the Pharoah was a Muslim.

It's circular reasoning. A more credible source would be an independent historical document on the life of Pharoah.

Secondly, the idea of claiming that anyone who existed before the time of the prophet Muhammad was a Muslim is simply word gymnastics at play.

The whole concept of Islam revolves not just around believing in a singular god (many religions did that). It centers on following the Islamic texts, and accepting the prophet Muhammad as one of the prophets of said god.

Anyone who existed before his time could not have satisfied those criteria, and is therefore not a Muslim.
From the data available here, The writer/narrator of that quran portion was present when pharoah drowned yet wasnt with the Israelites. It could only have been an angel. Probably that angel fell and later possessed the narrator for him to say he was present when pharoah drowned.
Re: Prophet Muhammad Was Not The First Muslim by IbileIfe: 10:39pm On Jun 25, 2022
RepoMan007:
From the data available here, The writer/narrator of that quran portion was present when pharoah drowned yet wasnt with the Israelites. It could only have been an angel. Probably that angel fell and later possessed the narrator for him to say he was present when pharoah drowned.
Did Pharaoh even drown?
Re: Prophet Muhammad Was Not The First Muslim by RepoMan007: 2:23am On Jun 26, 2022
IbileIfe:

Did Pharaoh even drown?
good question but the yahoo prophet said so in order to magnify himself along with his lies.

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Re: Prophet Muhammad Was Not The First Muslim by TenQ: 6:46am On Jun 26, 2022
IbileIfe:


You don't know the premise of this topic . But since I simply quoted the Islamic scriptures, then you should understand that false religion is a product of falsehood.

The Torah mentioned that the Pharaoh of Egypt was two different kings and not one, which contradicts with the teachings of the holy Quran as it mentions the Pharaoh of Egypt as one person.

https://www.egypttoday.com/Article/4/88282/Who-is-the-Pharaoh-of-Prophet-Moses

Unfortunately, Pharaoh is NOT the me of any Egyptian kings: it is a TITLE like President or Ruler or King or Emperor. For Egyptians, the title of their kings is PHARAOH!!

Therefore, it is possible to have two kings described as Pharaoh:
1. One that ruled when Moses was a baby
2. One that Ruled when Moses was an Adult of About 80years old

The Qur'an is the book that is full of errors and contradictions!
Re: Prophet Muhammad Was Not The First Muslim by TenQ: 6:55am On Jun 26, 2022
IbileIfe:

Did Pharaoh even drown?
What did the Torah say about this!?
Re: Prophet Muhammad Was Not The First Muslim by tobechi74: 7:02am On Jun 26, 2022
Jesus was not first christian
Re: Prophet Muhammad Was Not The First Muslim by AntiChristian: 7:33am On Jun 26, 2022
See as holy spirit deprived Christians are masturbating on an Islamic matter that has eluded them with their prejudiced minds.

What's the context of those verses you quoted?

Moses was the first Muslim in his time as well as Noah, Abraham, Muhammad and Jesus.

Even John the Baptist and co join.
Re: Prophet Muhammad Was Not The First Muslim by IbileIfe: 9:35am On Jun 26, 2022
RepoMan007:
good question but the yahoo prophet said so in order to magnify himself along with his lies.
I no want laff, but my mouth laff on my behalf. grin
Re: Prophet Muhammad Was Not The First Muslim by IbileIfe: 9:57am On Jun 26, 2022
AntiChristian:
See as holy spirit deprived Christians are masturbating on an Islamic matter that has eluded them with their prejudiced minds.

What's the context of those verses you quoted?

Moses was the first Muslim in his time as well as Noah, Abraham, Muhammad and Jesus.

Even John the Baptist and co join.
You are intellectually and spiritually ignorant.

Can you give me the genealogy of Prophet Muhammad to Noah?

The Koran is a plagiarization of the Old Testament by whom is was written of in
2 Corinthians 11:14
But as our MESSIAH JESUS Christ said, by their fruits you shall know them.
Majority of the so called Muslims don't even understand the Koran.

عِيسَى ٱبْنُ مَرْيَمَ, ʿĪsā ibn Maryam, Isa, son of Maryam, the penultimate prophet and messenger of God (Allah) and the Messiah.

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