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Re: Letter Ordering VCs To Reopen Universities by openmine(m): 4:46pm On Sep 26, 2022
JJuanMiguel:

You mean the one ASUU pursued representatives from ministeries of finance and education and fixed their salaries at 180% increment.

grin grin
Its well!
The increment was done and contained in the Nimi briggs commitee report where it recommended the 180% increase in the salaries of the university lecturers!
The increment according to the committee report was to enable the salaries of lecturers to be in line with what is earned by university lecturers around the world!
As for ASUU pursuing the ministers of finance and education,then i will have to see such link or news about such before i can believe!
However i do know that if the FG is serious about revitalizing the universities,then they should abide by the recommendations of the two committees that they set up!
There is still room for another committee to be set up by the FG as long as they will abide by the eventual report of that same committee! grin
Re: Letter Ordering VCs To Reopen Universities by BABANGBALI: 4:49pm On Sep 26, 2022
Na VC go teach them abi na non academic staff. This government is fokn useless
Re: Letter Ordering VCs To Reopen Universities by JJuanMiguel: 4:59pm On Sep 26, 2022
openmine:

grin grin
Its well!
The increment was done and contained in the Nimi briggs commitee report where it recommended the 180% increase in the salaries of the university lecturers!
The increment according to the committee report was to enable the salaries of lecturers to be in line with what is earned by university lecturers around the world!
Lol, even ASUU themselves know that's not feasible.
Lecturers in top universities around the world engage in useful research works and attract funds and grants from various organizations around the world for their universities. The universities in turn don't lack funds to compensate them accordingly.

Your people here only do paper work for the sake of promotions, in their so called "research" a sentence will include citations from 10 different authors, they can't discover any new thing.
They just victimize students, chase girls, come to class 3x in a semester and submit demands to the FG.

The same ASUU shedding crocodile tears now invited welders to seal off the SUB at oau sometimes ago to silence the students and prevent them from fighting for their rights

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Re: Letter Ordering VCs To Reopen Universities by Nobody: 5:13pm On Sep 26, 2022
All this COMMANDO STYLE WILL NOT WORK, FG SHOULD DO THE NEEDFUL....BLACK MAN WITH POWER
Re: Letter Ordering VCs To Reopen Universities by openmine(m): 5:18pm On Sep 26, 2022
JJuanMiguel:

Lol, even ASUU themselves know that's not feasible.
Lecturers in top universities around the world engage in useful research works and attract funds and grants from various organizations around the world for their universities. The universities in turn don't lack funds to compensate them accordingly.

Useful research work is either personally funded or the university does the funding!
The former is not possible due to the salaries that even a professor earns!
However,this is not the bone of contention!
There is always an opportunity to renegotiate with another committee!


JJuanMiguel:

Your people here only do paper work for the sake of promotions, in their so called "research" a sentence will include citations from 10 different authors, they can't discover any new thing.
They just victimize students, chase girls, come to class 3x in a semester and submit demands to the FG.

Firstly,i am not a lecturer or part of ASUU....I am only trying to tackle the issues from an objective point of view!
Secondly,As much as i agree with your last statement about some lecturers in our universities,you will agree with me that not all lecturers are into what you are trying to accuse all of them!
Lets not lose sight of the main issue at hand which is the revitalization of our universities and review of the upward salary structure of lecturers!
The other issues can be resolved by setting up another committee by the FG to investigate what you are alleging!

JJuanMiguel:

The same ASUU shedding crocodile tears now invited welders to seal off the SUB at oau sometimes ago to silence the students and prevent them from fighting for their rights
This is off topic!
The question is did the FG renege in their negotiation and agreement with ASUU through the committee that they set up?
Did FG throw out the 2 reports by committees that they themselves setup to resolve the issue with the union?
Once we are done with resolving the questions at hand,we can talk about how to investigate the excesses of the university lecturers in nigeria!

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Re: Letter Ordering VCs To Reopen Universities by ehsan55p: 5:27pm On Sep 26, 2022
MAJOR GENERAL MUHAMMADU BUHARIMAJOR GENERAL MUHAMMADU BUHARI...
Re: Letter Ordering VCs To Reopen Universities by JJuanMiguel: 5:29pm On Sep 26, 2022
openmine:


Useful research work is either personally funded or the university does the funding!
The former is not possible due to the salaries that even a professor earns!
However,this is not the bone of contention!
There is always an opportunity to renegotiate with another committee!




Firstly,i am not a lecturer or part of ASUU....I am only trying to tackle the issues from an objective point of view!
Secondly,As much as i agree with your last statement about some lecturers in our universities,you will agree with me that not all lecturers are into what you are trying to accuse all of them!
Lets not lose sight of the main issue at hand which is the revitalization of our universities and review of the upward salary structure of lecturers!
The other issues can be resolved by setting up another committee by the FG to investigate what you are alleging!


This is off topic!
The question is did the FG renege in their negotiation and agreement with ASUU through the committee that they set up?
Did FG throw out the 2 reports by committees that they themselves setup to resolve the issue with the union?
Once we are done with resolving the questions at hand,we can talk about how to investigate the excesses of the university lecturers in nigeria!

There's a report that ASUU pursued reps from ministries of finance and education during the negotiation and fixed their salary at 180%

Right now, the only problem is the no work no pay stance of the FG, ASUU didn't anticipate that. Forget about all these gimmicks of revitalization funds and fighting for students. The lecturers also want to live large and are demanding for huge salaries which is not a bad thing, but they should stop shutting down schools every year and delaying people's destiny to try and achieve that.

Everywhere you go now, it's only about how they can't teach on empty stomach and how hungry they are.
The appeal court will give same verdict as the NIC, return to work and continue negotiations.
The neutrals and the law are on the students' side
Re: Letter Ordering VCs To Reopen Universities by onlyboyson(m): 5:36pm On Sep 26, 2022
Make them resume without salary
Wetin Dem go dey chop
Go carry them for troath nah

Government dey collect their salary without doing anything
Senators and ministers having much allowances more than that lectures salary still dey can't pay them

Wicked county


And person get mind still wan vote APC

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Re: Letter Ordering VCs To Reopen Universities by Kyase(m): 5:47pm On Sep 26, 2022
comrChris:
Who told you they are not working, even now?
Is teaching the only thing lecturers do in school?
Some of you really need to learn how to shut your mouth if you don't know how universities operate

Oga please you shut your mouth
Do they work from home?
Are they on field work?
Are they on excursion?
School gates have been closed for how long again
Abi na spirits Dem dey work for ?
Please go teach yourself and learn
Re: Letter Ordering VCs To Reopen Universities by McLizbae: 5:53pm On Sep 26, 2022
Na premium mumu dey worry you. ASUU pressurized FG with strike for almost 8 months now, FG nor gree answer them, na when them resume classes wey the pressure don douse on FG, na then FG go answer them abi?
Mccullum:
THIS IS COURT ORDER, ASUU SUPPOSE TO OBEY THAT ORDER FIRST, THEY CAN APPEAL ALONG,

SCHOOL MUST BE OPEN WHILE THEIR AGITATION CONTINUE WITHOUT CLOSING OF UNIVERSITIES.

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Re: Letter Ordering VCs To Reopen Universities by kernniejay(m): 6:47pm On Sep 26, 2022
Happiboispot:
I hope ASUU just call it off n wait for the next regime hopefully peter obi then we be able to settle it all buh
if we keep waiting for that old ido$t up there we definitely not resuming anytime soon
In that case, ASUU should continue the strike till Obi or anybody becomes president before they resume.
Re: Letter Ordering VCs To Reopen Universities by McLizbae: 6:47pm On Sep 26, 2022
Stale-est update ever! FG wey don quickly recall him yeye leter cheesy. ASUU nor be Buhari papa mate o!

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Re: Letter Ordering VCs To Reopen Universities by kernniejay(m): 6:53pm On Sep 26, 2022
Kyase:


Oga please you shut your mouth
Do they work from home?
Are they on field work?
Are they on excursion?
School gates have been closed for how long again
Abi na spirits Dem dey work for ?
Please go teach yourself and learn
In that case, if government will not pay ASUU the 2021/2022 session should be cancelled and all tests and exams conducted should be nullified, then the strike action should continue for as long as FG declines until a responsible president that is ready to do the needful comes to power.
Re: Letter Ordering VCs To Reopen Universities by Kyase(m): 6:56pm On Sep 26, 2022
kernniejay:

In that case, if government will not pay ASUU the 2021/2022 session should be cancelled and all tests and exams conducted should be nullified, then the strike action should continue for as long as FG declines until a responsible president that is ready to do the needful comes to power.

Yeah and the government can also privatize the entire higher institutions then we go see who mumu pass
How you see am
Re: Letter Ordering VCs To Reopen Universities by kernniejay(m): 7:04pm On Sep 26, 2022
openmine:


Useful research work is either personally funded or the university does the funding!
The former is not possible due to the salaries that even a professor earns!
However,this is not the bone of contention!
There is always an opportunity to renegotiate with another committee!




Firstly,i am not a lecturer or part of ASUU....I am only trying to tackle the issues from an objective point of view!
Secondly,As much as i agree with your last statement about some lecturers in our universities,you will agree with me that not all lecturers are into what you are trying to accuse all of them!
Lets not lose sight of the main issue at hand which is the revitalization of our universities and review of the upward salary structure of lecturers!
The other issues can be resolved by setting up another committee by the FG to investigate what you are alleging!


This is off topic!
The question is did the FG renege in their negotiation and agreement with ASUU through the committee that they set up?
Did FG throw out the 2 reports by committees that they themselves setup to resolve the issue with the union?
Once we are done with resolving the questions at hand,we can talk about how to investigate the excesses of the university lecturers in nigeria!
Why are you dignifying those semi-illiterates with your replies, no matter how you break it down and analyze, it will be too complex for their feeble and frail minds.
Re: Letter Ordering VCs To Reopen Universities by kernniejay(m): 7:06pm On Sep 26, 2022
Lilchilz:
Make dem resume ! Make dem resume !!
Unah don finalize the payment method and clear all the outstanding funds unah they owe them ??
God bless you.

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Re: Letter Ordering VCs To Reopen Universities by sultan003(m): 7:10pm On Sep 26, 2022
Africana1123:
Congratulation to Nigeria student

No more strike in our university

The solution is here

Asiwaju 2023


Order that has been withdrawn
Re: Letter Ordering VCs To Reopen Universities by sultan003(m): 7:15pm On Sep 26, 2022
JJuanMiguel:

You mean the one ASUU pursued representatives from ministeries of finance and education and fixed their salaries at 180% increment.


This is a lie.
Seems like you did not see the press release by prof emeritus briggs who is the chairman of that committee
Re: Letter Ordering VCs To Reopen Universities by kernniejay(m): 7:20pm On Sep 26, 2022
Kyase:


Yeah and the government can also privatize the entire higher institutions then we go see who mumu pass
How you see am
In that case again, Covenant University will be cheaper than the cheapest privatized higher institution, then we will see how many people can afford education and we will see who actually mumu pass wether na government and the senseless people supporting and defending this useless Buhari administration or ASUU which is trying to fight for quality educational system.
Re: Letter Ordering VCs To Reopen Universities by Ebubu: 7:31pm On Sep 26, 2022
HolyMan12:
grin

Na exams straight na im go gum university students.

All these girls wey no the ever know anything for class.

Well hookup with lecturers have always been the answer grin
grin
Re: Letter Ordering VCs To Reopen Universities by Kyase(m): 7:35pm On Sep 26, 2022
kernniejay:

In that case again, Covenant University will be cheaper than the cheapest privatized higher institution, then we will see how many people can afford education and we will see who actually mumu pass wether na government and the senseless people supporting and defending this useless Buhari administration or ASUU which is trying to fight for quality educational system.

Which ASUU fighting for quality education
How many of us can pay for quality education in this country?
Let’s be realistic, no be fight
Re: Letter Ordering VCs To Reopen Universities by kernniejay(m): 7:48pm On Sep 26, 2022
Kyase:


Which ASUU fighting for quality education
How many of us can pay for quality education in this country?
Let’s be realistic, no be fight
Go and check the demands of ASUU very well, they are not just asking for increment or disuse of IPPIS, they are asking for revitalization of varsities among other developmental demands. And if there is no quality education in this country, how come University of Ibadan made the list of 1000 best universities around the world, being the first time Nigeria made the list?
Re: Letter Ordering VCs To Reopen Universities by Kyase(m): 8:06pm On Sep 26, 2022
kernniejay:

Go and check the demands of ASUU very well, they are not just asking for increment or disuse of IPPIS, they are asking for revitalization of varsities among other developmental demands. And if there is no quality education in this country, how come University of Ibadan made the list of 1000 best universities around the world, being the first time Nigeria made the list?

There’s one thing I want you to know
The government can’t be subsidizing the educational sector and still be doing all these things at the Same time
Nigerians pays the cheapest school fees in the entire world apart from Libya during Gaddafi

If we want quality education, world class education like them oxfords and Cambridge
We need to accept to pay more

Second thing
You talked about people supporting this government and ASUU, did ASUU strike starts with them?
Re: Letter Ordering VCs To Reopen Universities by Mccullum: 8:26pm On Sep 26, 2022
Sorry for being in severe pains with the court order that has ASUU to return to class grin

you this sophisticated M.O.R.O.N that's deriving joy in ASUU strike grin

McLizbae:
Na premium mumu dey worry you. ASUU pressurized FG with strike for almost 8 months now, FG nor gree answer them, na when them resume classes wey the pressure don douse on FG, na then FG go answer them abi?

Re: Letter Ordering VCs To Reopen Universities by kernniejay(m): 8:28pm On Sep 26, 2022
Kyase:


There’s one thing I want you to know
The government can’t be subsidizing the educational sector and still be doing all these things at the Same time
Nigerians pays the cheapest school fees in the entire world apart from Libya during Gaddafi

If we want quality education, world class education like them oxfords and Cambridge
We need to accept to pay more

Second thing
You talked about people supporting this government and ASUU, did ASUU strike starts with them?
Subsidy? This is the same line the government gives us anytime they want to increase pump price, they tell us we have the cheapest petroleum price in the world and therefore, they must remove subsidy so that the price can be at par with the world level. However, they have removed subsidy more than 5 times under Buhari that claimed there was nothing like subsidy under Jonathan and still, they are not done yet. Back to the matter, government has not said they subsidized education in any manner apart from the fraudulent "one meal per day" scheme for imaginary primary schools. I dont know why you are helping this government to issue statement it never made. When did Buhari or any government (apart from Chief Obafemi Awolowo's free education policy in the Western region from late 70s to mid 80s) talk about subsidizing education?
Again, of course ASUU strike did not start with them but if they cant lessen ASUU crisis, they shouldn't worsen it. They'd better leave us as we were, not worse off than we were before they came.
Re: Letter Ordering VCs To Reopen Universities by Tgb1: 8:32pm On Sep 26, 2022
How
Re: Letter Ordering VCs To Reopen Universities by McLizbae: 8:42pm On Sep 26, 2022
Mccullum:
Sorry for being in severe pains with the court order that has ASUU to return to class grin

[/b]you this sophisticated M.O.R.O.N that's deriving joy in ASUU strike grin[b]




Joy!? No joy here cause I am not smiling at all! But I can see you laughing.. So I believe you just described your entire clan there as bolded.

NO one (save fatheads like you here), should derive joy from the ongoing impasse between FG and ASUU, not even the degrading communities hosting the universities. But if anyone really want to be sensible, s/he will continue to play his/er little part to compel the FG to honor ASUU. Yes, this Buahri/FG has broken Nigeria in many unprecedented ways, but they can't succeed with ASUU. FG cannot force or cajole University lecturers to teach, it is smply impossible!
Re: Letter Ordering VCs To Reopen Universities by openmine(m): 9:34pm On Sep 26, 2022
JJuanMiguel:


There's a report that ASUU pursued reps from ministries of finance and education during the negotiation and fixed their salary at 180%
If there is a report about such,please do well to bring or show it here! I don't rely on beer parlour gist!
Once again and at the risk of sounding like a broken record,ASUU was not the one that proposed that that lecturers salaries be increased by 180%...This was contained in the recommendation made first by the jibril committee report in 2021 and then Nimi Briggs committee report in 2022....Remember that both committees were created and belonged to the FG not ASUU!

JJuanMiguel:

Right now, the only problem is the no work no pay stance of the FG, ASUU didn't anticipate that. Forget about all these gimmicks of revitalization funds and fighting for students.
That is your opinion and you are entitled to them!
However your opinion doesn't take away the fact that our universities are in a terrible state and in need of urgent rehabilitation!
I have personally been to some of our universities and i must confess that its an eyesore!
You may have your personal vendetta with some lecturers due to your past dealings and disappointments with them but it will be illogical to generalize!
ASUU still have options before them....They are not the first to be issued such order...The resident doctors were given the same order and refused to obey which was finally resolved out of court!
However,the union has decided to follow the law on the advice of their lawyers to appeal!
They can appeal the ruling by seeking a 'status quo' order!

JJuanMiguel:

The lecturers also want to live large and are demanding for huge salaries which is not a bad thing, but they should stop shutting down schools every year and delaying people's destiny to try and achieve that.
You seem not to understand the job that a teacher puts in educating a student!
A teacher or lecturer should be living large because the directly and indirectly affect the economy of the nation!
No one including you became something in life without the effect or a teacher or lecturer!
A professor in england earns over 3k pounds a month and a professor in nigeria collects 450k but a councilor in a remote area in a state in Nigeria collects close to a million naira and you want the lecturers to give their best to the students?
The shutting down of schools should have been avoided a long time ago if the FG had done their job properly by agreeing to a negotiation that they had made!

JJuanMiguel:

Everywhere you go now, it's only about how they can't teach on empty stomach and how hungry they are.
This is so insensitive from you!
Do not allow your personal grudge with a lecturer cloud your sense of judgement!
Which lecturer that has been owed for more than 4 months will have the strength to teach?

JJuanMiguel:

The appeal court will give same verdict as the NIC, return to work and continue negotiations.

Let us wait for the appeal court before trying to preempt their judgement!
Like i said before,they have options which are in their favour!

JJuanMiguel:

The neutrals and the law are on the students' side
lol.....The students under NANS have told the union not to resume!
Let the law be interpreted in a court of law not on nairaland!
Re: Letter Ordering VCs To Reopen Universities by openmine(m): 9:37pm On Sep 26, 2022
kernniejay:

Why are you dignifying those semi-illiterates with your replies, no matter how you break it down and analyze, it will be too complex for their feeble and frail minds.
Seriously its getting really annoying having to explain simplified issues to folks i presume to have had basic comprehension classes!

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