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Re: Aloy Chife Asks CBN To Abolish Official FOREX Market, Allow Naira Float by Iamzik: 10:15am On Nov 04, 2022
Emeskhalifa:
THE CURRENCY SITUATION: A MUST READ

1). So many Nigerians have stacked Naira notes in their closets and are cut up with this policy of the CBN. There is a rush by ignorant Nigerians to convert their Naira to Dollars. Naira is at all time low against dollar and it's going to go even lower. For example a man converts #10m to 12,500 USD at the current exchange rate. It's easier to keep it with himself than to deposit in a Domiciliary account with a DMB because of the stringent policies around FX cash deposits. He hopes that by December when the new Nigeria is floated, he'd have his FX converted back to Naira from the Aboki guys he bought his USD from.

2)The Aboki man who sold FX to his customers at exorbitant rate excitedly goes to the DMB to deposit the millions of Naira he got the the FX swap he did. He knows he is getting richer in geometric proportion by this new policy by the CBN. He awaits the printing of the new Naira notes so as to reconvert the Naira he has in his account today USD and continue making more money.

3). All customers who deposited their Naira notes, those depositing and those who would be depositing are eagerly waiting for December 15. The DMBs are also waiting for the said date. Meanwhile there is a cashless policy waiting to hit all Nigerians by January 2023. On December 15th, customers would rush to the DMBs for new notes so as to withdraw as much as they can before January when the cashless policy would be effected 100%. The DMBS would rush to the central bank branches to withdraw new notes. The branches would go to the H/O for new notes. H/O would release just a little to branches based on cash management policies. CBN Branches would release in trinkets to DMB branches and tell them to go manage their customers. DMBs would revert back to their customers based on the low available new cash notes. There would be slight panicking as customers who deposited old naira notes cannot retrieve same notes from the DMBs anymore because of unavailability. Remember, digital money and paper money is still money and so customers would be advised to use electronic channels to make payments.

4) The Aboki guy who kept millions of Naira is also a victim of the shortage of new notes and so he cannot buy back FX from his customers who were hoping to return the ones the got earlier ones the new notes are in place. Aboki begins to panick as well. Those who have FX and need naira notes begin to sell their FX to people who have naira whether old or new just to cash in before January. In doing so, USD begins to crash as rapidly as it rose. Much of the FX becomes deposited in DMBs as carrying the raw cash isn't useful anymore. The CBN is happy because there is more FX in the banking system to give for Forms A, M and Q. Naira begins to gain rapidly against the dollar.

5). In January, cashless policy takes effect. So even if the CBN makes available more new notes to DMBs, customers cannot withdraw above the stipulated across-the-counter limit to avoid heavy charges. Customers are forced to use electronic payments, FX policy and transfer and withdrawal is so stiff that swapping FX and Naira is no more a gain. USD parallel and black market prices crash all the way down to CBN rate. Inflation based on importation of goods and services is checked as Naira becomes strong against dollar. People who have physical dollars would lose. There would be limited access to naira notes as electronic transfers become prevalent. Enaira purchases also become more as Nigerians look for most seamless methods to do payments. By June, whoever takes over power would have a soft landing as this policy by the CBN has controlled a whole lot of inflation, corruption and economic degradation.

6). If you have Naira notes stashed with you, return them back to the bank through your account. Don't try to play smart trying to beat the system, you may become the architect of your own loss. Your 12,500 USD may fall from #10,000,000 to #5,000,000 in June, 2023. Meanwhile if you put same #10,000,000 in Treasury Bills at the current 14.5%, you should be gaining about #725,000 at the same period.

Let's try and look at the bright side of things, Nigeria shall be great by God's grace.

Continue giving yourself hope. When dollar reach 1,500 e go shock you. Untill parallel market and BDC is scrapped dollar rate will keep going up no matter what you do.
Scrap BDC let banks handle exchange at the same rate all over the country. Problem solved

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Re: Aloy Chife Asks CBN To Abolish Official FOREX Market, Allow Naira Float by criuze(m): 10:17am On Nov 04, 2022
Naira is the official cousin to Zimbabwe's dollars





B=hari too like seeing people stampeding here and there

1. Bvn
2. NIN
We haven't recovered from the traumas of the above two


Now you're changing currency's coat


After all these stress nothing to write home about


Did NIN stop insecurity,
The answer is No, it rather worsened it

What of Bvn, internet fraud became even more enticing


Now what can this currency recoating do

Absolutely nothing



He only want people to stand in long queues at bank premises



That's the grand way he wishes bid good bye from office

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Re: Aloy Chife Asks CBN To Abolish Official FOREX Market, Allow Naira Float by jeffoe(m): 10:17am On Nov 04, 2022
okeysoninv:
china nko,no country will allow it's currency to battered like nigeria. mind it's not an issue of export and import . politicians, BDC are the cause of down fall of naira. nigeria has been doing import since creation of this country but it never get bad as of now. the panacea is kill the BDC and political spectators you will see everything falling to #440. no importer will Slash 80% of currency notes at home except the political class. the same political class are the one putting pressure on naira. politician spectators with no economic value
baning bdc wouldn't solve the problem (demand problem) just the same way banning abokifx have not. it would just move the market underground. we have very weak institutions continually weakened by the political class. not everyone utilising the black market are doing it for criminal reason. a lot are because they just cannot access the dollar at the official market. the real problem is in the supply side. the demand for dollar in 1960 has increased considerably but the supply (from export) has not that where the problem lies. aggressively improving productivity (agricultural export first) and then value added products export.

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Re: Aloy Chife Asks CBN To Abolish Official FOREX Market, Allow Naira Float by Abagworo(m): 10:19am On Nov 04, 2022
englishmart:
This country is badly governed. Official exchange rate is 439, but you can only access it at 800+. Are we no killing ourselves?
This government is bent on impoverishing the masses, and making things as tough on them as possible.
Feudism they say, thrives when the people are poorer and less educated.

This problem didn't start with this government. Nigerians generally want to eat their cake and have it including the politicians and everyone else. Some critical economic decisions have remained to be taken but being opposed for as long as Nigeria has existed.

1 is total removal of subsidy and
2 end of dual exchange rate thereby allowing petroleum products prices and foreign exchange rates to achieve equilibrium.

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Re: Aloy Chife Asks CBN To Abolish Official FOREX Market, Allow Naira Float by okeysoninv: 10:24am On Nov 04, 2022
jeffoe:
baning bdc wouldn't solve the problem (demand problem) just the same way banning abokifx have not. it would just move the market underground. we have very weak institutions continually weakened by the political class. not everyone utilising the black market are doing it for criminal reason. a lot are because they just cannot access the dollar at the official market. the real problem is in the supply side. the demand for dollar in 1960 has increased considerably but the supply (from export) has not that where the problem lies. aggressively improving productivity (agricultural export first) and then value added products export.
people that runs BDC are spectators and arbitrage traders. which has no economic value. same they stashed 80% of our 200,500, 1000 notes. they are not importers, or travellers, or medical. Nigeria has been importing since creation of this nation but never this bad.The CBN knowns the naira dollar saboteurs but is afraid to acts because it runs like a chain mafians. import and exports are not the problem
Re: Aloy Chife Asks CBN To Abolish Official FOREX Market, Allow Naira Float by abdulr747(m): 10:27am On Nov 04, 2022
Emeskhalifa:
THE CURRENCY SITUATION: A MUST READ

1). So many Nigerians have stacked Naira notes in their closets and are cut up with this policy of the CBN. There is a rush by ignorant Nigerians to convert their Naira to Dollars. Naira is at all time low against dollar and it's going to go even lower. For example a man converts #10m to 12,500 USD at the current exchange rate. It's easier to keep it with himself than to deposit in a Domiciliary account with a DMB because of the stringent policies around FX cash deposits. He hopes that by December when the new Nigeria is floated, he'd have his FX converted back to Naira from the Aboki guys he bought his USD from.

2)The Aboki man who sold FX to his customers at exorbitant rate excitedly goes to the DMB to deposit the millions of Naira he got the the FX swap he did. He knows he is getting richer in geometric proportion by this new policy by the CBN. He awaits the printing of the new Naira notes so as to reconvert the Naira he has in his account today USD and continue making more money.

3). All customers who deposited their Naira notes, those depositing and those who would be depositing are eagerly waiting for December 15. The DMBs are also waiting for the said date. Meanwhile there is a cashless policy waiting to hit all Nigerians by January 2023. On December 15th, customers would rush to the DMBs for new notes so as to withdraw as much as they can before January when the cashless policy would be effected 100%. The DMBS would rush to the central bank branches to withdraw new notes. The branches would go to the H/O for new notes. H/O would release just a little to branches based on cash management policies. CBN Branches would release in trinkets to DMB branches and tell them to go manage their customers. DMBs would revert back to their customers based on the low available new cash notes. There would be slight panicking as customers who deposited old naira notes cannot retrieve same notes from the DMBs anymore because of unavailability. Remember, digital money and paper money is still money and so customers would be advised to use electronic channels to make payments.

4) The Aboki guy who kept millions of Naira is also a victim of the shortage of new notes and so he cannot buy back FX from his customers who were hoping to return the ones the got earlier ones the new notes are in place. Aboki begins to panick as well. Those who have FX and need naira notes begin to sell their FX to people who have naira whether old or new just to cash in before January. In doing so, USD begins to crash as rapidly as it rose. Much of the FX becomes deposited in DMBs as carrying the raw cash isn't useful anymore. The CBN is happy because there is more FX in the banking system to give for Forms A, M and Q. Naira begins to gain rapidly against the dollar.

5). In January, cashless policy takes effect. So even if the CBN makes available more new notes to DMBs, customers cannot withdraw above the stipulated across-the-counter limit to avoid heavy charges. Customers are forced to use electronic payments, FX policy and transfer and withdrawal is so stiff that swapping FX and Naira is no more a gain. USD parallel and black market prices crash all the way down to CBN rate. Inflation based on importation of goods and services is checked as Naira becomes strong against dollar. People who have physical dollars would lose. There would be limited access to naira notes as electronic transfers become prevalent. Enaira purchases also become more as Nigerians look for most seamless methods to do payments. By June, whoever takes over power would have a soft landing as this policy by the CBN has controlled a whole lot of inflation, corruption and economic degradation.

6). If you have Naira notes stashed with you, return them back to the bank through your account. Don't try to play smart trying to beat the system, you may become the architect of your own loss. Your 12,500 USD may fall from #10,000,000 to #5,000,000 in June, 2023. Meanwhile if you put same #10,000,000 in Treasury Bills at the current 14.5%, you should be gaining about #725,000 at the same period.

Let's try and look at the bright side of things, Nigeria shall be great by God's grace.

The aboki man can still buy USD through transfer naw. I think that will even be more easier since the aboki man have the naira in his bank account. I'm a freelanceer and I sell USD most of the time and I never collect physical naira, I always receive transfer.
Re: Aloy Chife Asks CBN To Abolish Official FOREX Market, Allow Naira Float by Emarvel(m): 10:36am On Nov 04, 2022
Emeskhalifa:
THE CURRENCY SITUATION: A MUST READ


5). In January, cashless policy takes effect. So even if the CBN makes available more new notes to DMBs, customers cannot withdraw above the stipulated across-the-counter limit to avoid heavy charges. Customers are forced to use electronic payments, FX policy and transfer and withdrawal is so stiff that swapping FX and Naira is no more a gain. USD parallel and black market prices crash all the way down to CBN rate. Inflation based on importation of goods and services is checked as Naira becomes strong against dollar. People who have physical dollars would lose. There would be limited access to naira notes as electronic transfers become prevalent. Enaira purchases also become more as Nigerians look for most seamless methods to do payments. By June, whoever takes over power would have a soft landing as this policy by the CBN has controlled a whole lot of inflation, corruption and economic degradation.

6). If you have Naira notes stashed with you, return them back to the bank through your account. Don't try to play smart trying to beat the system, you may become the architect of your own loss. Your 12,500 USD may fall from #10,000,000 to #5,000,000 in June, 2023. Meanwhile if you put same #10,000,000 in Treasury Bills at the current 14.5%, you should be gaining about #725,000 at the same period.

Let's try and look at the bright side of things, Nigeria shall be great by God's grace.

I like your analysis, I just hope and pray that this is what Emiefele have in mind…..
Re: Aloy Chife Asks CBN To Abolish Official FOREX Market, Allow Naira Float by Dearlord(m): 10:52am On Nov 04, 2022
Acidosis:



If you follow that Oluwole economic explanation, you fit enter gutter.


Let watch and see what will happen in long run
Re: Aloy Chife Asks CBN To Abolish Official FOREX Market, Allow Naira Float by Dearlord(m): 10:56am On Nov 04, 2022
pa3k001:
he didn't convince me enough.....there were so many assumptions in this article. The naira will not recover frm this free fall in this context.....Only except d dollar is redesigned

How sure are you that naira will not recover?

Those assumptions are the reality taking effect and that will determine the factors of it stability or instability.
Re: Aloy Chife Asks CBN To Abolish Official FOREX Market, Allow Naira Float by omoluka: 11:03am On Nov 04, 2022
#Emefielemustgo
Re: Aloy Chife Asks CBN To Abolish Official FOREX Market, Allow Naira Float by grandstar(m): 11:04am On Nov 04, 2022
descarado:

Are you sure he refused?

Soludo during his time came up with scraping bdc. He was seriously warned. You resign, they put their people and continue the rot.
Who is losing . Let all of us be mad together.
When we are ready, we know what to do.

Sanusi boasted one day that he can make millions overnight through bdc.

The south is busy chasing shadows especially yoruba. Their problem is igboman.

You work, this people milk the whole money through bdc and nnpc.



Why would Soludo want to scrap BDC's. He was the one that initiated the sale of cbn dollars to the BDC's so that the official exchange can merge and it worked. The parallel or black market rate went from 150 or 122. The official rate then was 120.

Lamido Sanusi has had no time made the boast he could become an overnight million through BDC. You took his quote out of context. He said Buhari(s uneducated interference in the market was making people overnight millionaires by buying cheaply at the officially rate and tben sell at the black market rate.

Lamido Sanusi has been an unrelenting critic of Buhari exchange rate policies. See below

https://www.nairaland.com/4861949/lamido-sanusi-laments-buharis-economic
Re: Aloy Chife Asks CBN To Abolish Official FOREX Market, Allow Naira Float by GreyLaw(m): 11:09am On Nov 04, 2022
grandstar:


The Abokia are not at fault. No Economists blames the Abokis. This is a clear case of markets failure.

Buhari fixes the exchange rate and repeatedly said he does not believe in devaluation. This is the crux of the matter.

Buhari believes that it is cruel for Economists to allow the currency depreciate or devalue it. He feels they fix it.

This is hogwash. First he has no to peg the exchange rate. This is the duty of the CBN. It has autonomy. Emefiele refusal to tell off the president is the cause of this disaster.

Economists are not the ultimate determinants of the exchange rate. It is the market-forces of demand and supply. If the price of crude oil falls by 50% which accounts for at least 75% of dollar inflows, Nigerians simply have to pay more for the greenback. This isn't rocket science. Economist simply work with the fundamentals, no matter how benign or malign, and manage it.

However, Buhari says no. By fire by force, it must stay at that price. His stiff-neck position is why things are so bad. Lamido Sanusii said the differential between the official and parallel market rate must not be more than 3%. Presently, its going close to 90%!

All the 3 leading presidential aspirants have all said they will make the Naira flexible again.

Emefiele tell off the president, in Nigeria? Hahaha...
Re: Aloy Chife Asks CBN To Abolish Official FOREX Market, Allow Naira Float by INTEGRITYA1(m): 11:16am On Nov 04, 2022
Powersurge:
As long as there is arbitrage opportunity, Naira will continue to slide down the bottomless pit.

The problem is generated by CBN and banks. They give dollars to ex CBN officials, politicians, "big men" with strong connects at the official rate, even lesser sometimes. These folks float the money in at the parallel market with their foot soldiers.

Banks will hoard dollars and sell to people that would float them at the parallel market.

Buhari ordered CBN to give dollars to people going to Hajj at abysmal rate. When you toy with something as sensitive as the economy, you get burnt.

You are very brilliant.

What you highlighted up here has been one of the major problems in terms of exchange rate.

The Naira official rate is boldly display at every Nigeria Banks. Tell any of the banks you wanted to buy dollars, they will tell you they don't have that you should go and source for it. The question is at where. (Abokis at the black market)

In return, Nigerians that are receiving foreign currencies from Abroad are not selling to banks as well because official selling rates are low compared to what Abokis at the parallel market will give. So, they will rather withdraw Dollars from bank and take it straight to Abokis for exchange.

You begin to wonder why then do we have retail banks.

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Re: Aloy Chife Asks CBN To Abolish Official FOREX Market, Allow Naira Float by almarthins(m): 11:26am On Nov 04, 2022
okeysoninv:
they should abolish official and approve black market rate so that naira will exchange to #3000. illiterate everywhere. even USA and China doesn't float their currency. no way in the world allowed black market to determine the trajectory of it's currency except in Nigeria. rather kill the spectators and hoarders that buys up dollars available. CBN can regulate the bank but can't monitor aboki BDC. it's a shame of the country

I thought I was the only seeing it this way. Emefiele and finance minister should be arrested for complacency.
Re: Aloy Chife Asks CBN To Abolish Official FOREX Market, Allow Naira Float by okeysoninv: 11:39am On Nov 04, 2022
almarthins:


I thought I was the only seeing it this way. Emefiele and finance minister should be arrested for complacency.
CBN top bosses and politicians are doing round tripping. they will use offshore accounts to purchase dollar through form M and come back sell it to their boys at BDC. there by making cool billions without sweat. one of the reasons they don't want to close BDC markets

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Re: Aloy Chife Asks CBN To Abolish Official FOREX Market, Allow Naira Float by SIRTee15: 12:01pm On Nov 04, 2022
okeysoninv:
there is so no country without protectionism. USA protects their currency. china do, every country do.

Oga stop arguing what u don't know anything about.
US dollar is in full float, there are more dollars outside the USA than inside. How will they restrict that type of currency. Do u think dollars will be the global official currency if it's restricted by American govt. Who will trust it?
Re: Aloy Chife Asks CBN To Abolish Official FOREX Market, Allow Naira Float by okeysoninv: 12:06pm On Nov 04, 2022
SIRTee15:


Oga stop arguing what u don't know anything about.
US dollar is in full float, there are more dollars outside the USA than inside. How will they restrict that type of currency. Do u think dollars will be the global official currency is American govt restrict.
what about china? is yuan float, most even . do you under what float means? USA still controls dollars if you don't know. most of you are illiterates any way. these are countries with floating currencies Guyana, Jamaica, Suriname and Trinidad and Tobago .
Re: Aloy Chife Asks CBN To Abolish Official FOREX Market, Allow Naira Float by grandstar(m): 12:08pm On Nov 04, 2022
GreyLaw:


Emefiele tell off the president, in Nigeria? Hahaha...

He could do so politely and firmly. If he has to do an open letter to the president, better. If the States knew the huge price they pay for this fx control policies, they would have advocated for non-interfetence.

If the official rate is 450 and parallel rate is 600. That's a difference in revenue of 150 for every $1.

So,lets say $10m was allocated to Oyo state this month, it would only receive 4.5b instead of 6bn. That's a loss of 1.5b monthly. Many states through the senate could have support the keeping of the flexible exchange rate
Re: Aloy Chife Asks CBN To Abolish Official FOREX Market, Allow Naira Float by Dialpad: 12:15pm On Nov 04, 2022
Have you ever heard the exchange rate go down, it has been ridiculously high since Buhari took over.

Are you telling me that the value of my 100million naira changed at exchange rate of 690 to USD will fall?

Please educate me on how my USD will lose value.

In my own opinion,I think you are not sound in economics, these are the kind of analysis you give in a beer parlor on a Wednesday afternoon after being hit by the frustration of Nigeria.







Emeskhalifa:
THE CURRENCY SITUATION: A MUST READ

1). So many Nigerians have stacked Naira notes in their closets and are cut up with this policy of the CBN. There is a rush by ignorant Nigerians to convert their Naira to Dollars. Naira is at all time low against dollar and it's going to go even lower. For example a man converts #10m to 12,500 USD at the current exchange rate. It's easier to keep it with himself than to deposit in a Domiciliary account with a DMB because of the stringent policies around FX cash deposits. He hopes that by December when the new Nigeria is floated, he'd have his FX converted back to Naira from the Aboki guys he bought his USD from.

2)The Aboki man who sold FX to his customers at exorbitant rate excitedly goes to the DMB to deposit the millions of Naira he got the the FX swap he did. He knows he is getting richer in geometric proportion by this new policy by the CBN. He awaits the printing of the new Naira notes so as to reconvert the Naira he has in his account today USD and continue making more money.

3). All customers who deposited their Naira notes, those depositing and those who would be depositing are eagerly waiting for December 15. The DMBs are also waiting for the said date. Meanwhile there is a cashless policy waiting to hit all Nigerians by January 2023. On December 15th, customers would rush to the DMBs for new notes so as to withdraw as much as they can before January when the cashless policy would be effected 100%. The DMBS would rush to the central bank branches to withdraw new notes. The branches would go to the H/O for new notes. H/O would release just a little to branches based on cash management policies. CBN Branches would release in trinkets to DMB branches and tell them to go manage their customers. DMBs would revert back to their customers based on the low available new cash notes. There would be slight panicking as customers who deposited old naira notes cannot retrieve same notes from the DMBs anymore because of unavailability. Remember, digital money and paper money is still money and so customers would be advised to use electronic channels to make payments.

4) The Aboki guy who kept millions of Naira is also a victim of the shortage of new notes and so he cannot buy back FX from his customers who were hoping to return the ones the got earlier ones the new notes are in place. Aboki begins to panick as well. Those who have FX and need naira notes begin to sell their FX to people who have naira whether old or new just to cash in before January. In doing so, USD begins to crash as rapidly as it rose. Much of the FX becomes deposited in DMBs as carrying the raw cash isn't useful anymore. The CBN is happy because there is more FX in the banking system to give for Forms A, M and Q. Naira begins to gain rapidly against the dollar.

5). In January, cashless policy takes effect. So even if the CBN makes available more new notes to DMBs, customers cannot withdraw above the stipulated across-the-counter limit to avoid heavy charges. Customers are forced to use electronic payments, FX policy and transfer and withdrawal is so stiff that swapping FX and Naira is no more a gain. USD parallel and black market prices crash all the way down to CBN rate. Inflation based on importation of goods and services is checked as Naira becomes strong against dollar. People who have physical dollars would lose. There would be limited access to naira notes as electronic transfers become prevalent. Enaira purchases also become more as Nigerians look for most seamless methods to do payments. By June, whoever takes over power would have a soft landing as this policy by the CBN has controlled a whole lot of inflation, corruption and economic degradation.

6). If you have Naira notes stashed with you, return them back to the bank through your account. Don't try to play smart trying to beat the system, you may become the architect of your own loss. Your 12,500 USD may fall from #10,000,000 to #5,000,000 in June, 2023. Meanwhile if you put same #10,000,000 in Treasury Bills at the current 14.5%, you should be gaining about #725,000 at the same period.

Let's try and look at the bright side of things, Nigeria shall be great by God's grace.

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Re: Aloy Chife Asks CBN To Abolish Official FOREX Market, Allow Naira Float by SIRTee15: 12:20pm On Nov 04, 2022
okeysoninv:
what about china? is yuan float, most even . do you under what float means? USA still controls dollars if you don't know. most of you are illiterates any way. these are countries with floating currencies Guyana, Jamaica, Suriname and Trinidad and Tobago .

You are just a block head. Go and read why American dollar is the official currency for global transaction and foreign reserve, then come back and discuss.
So many people have corrected u on this thread but u dey do strong head- typical of semi baked educated Nigerians. They will never learn and add value to themselves but be arguing blindly up and down.

I didnt mention yuan, everybody knows it's a tightly restricted and heavily regulated currency fixed to the dollar at a non fluctuating rate.
Re: Aloy Chife Asks CBN To Abolish Official FOREX Market, Allow Naira Float by okeysoninv: 12:25pm On Nov 04, 2022
SIRTee15:


You are just a block head. Go and read why American dollar is the official currency for global transaction and foreign reserve, then come back and discuss.
So many people have corrected u on this thread but u dey do strong head- typical of semi baked educated Nigerians. They will never learn and add value to themselves but be arguing blindly up and down.

I didnt mention yuan, everybody knows it's a tightly restricted and heavily regulated currency fixed to the dollar at a non fluctuating rate.
go and find meaning of float currency, before you start writing rubbish..no country can successful float it currency any where in this world. once you find out the meaning float currency reply me . byeee
Re: Aloy Chife Asks CBN To Abolish Official FOREX Market, Allow Naira Float by whiteboyswag: 12:26pm On Nov 04, 2022
okeysoninv:
they should abolish official and approve black market rate so that naira will exchange to #3000. illiterate everywhere. even USA and China doesn't float their currency. no way in the world allowed black market to determine the trajectory of it's currency except in Nigeria. rather kill the spectators and hoarders that buys up dollars available. CBN can regulate the bank but can't monitor aboki BDC. it's a shame of the country
you don’t have any idea what’s going on.
Re: Aloy Chife Asks CBN To Abolish Official FOREX Market, Allow Naira Float by amliftedhigher: 12:28pm On Nov 04, 2022
Re: Aloy Chife Asks CBN To Abolish Official FOREX Market, Allow Naira Float by okeysoninv: 12:32pm On Nov 04, 2022
whiteboyswag:
you don’t have any idea what’s going on.
really , so who hoards 80% of naira notes. who are the people buying up BDC foreign currency note after the announcement ? a typical Nigerian like you doesn't know the sole reason the naira is crashing is because politicians and inconvinance with BDC are the killing the currency. no importer will stash naira without injecting it into business. politicians with no economic value will just be buying up dollars up and down and stashing at home. 80% dollar sold by BDC were purchase by politicians. so CBN has mandatory right to stop that.
Re: Aloy Chife Asks CBN To Abolish Official FOREX Market, Allow Naira Float by drealcivilceno(m): 12:48pm On Nov 04, 2022
englishmart:
This country is badly governed. Official exchange rate is 439, but you can only access it at 800+. Are we no killing ourselves?
This government is bent on impoverishing the masses, and making things as tough on them as possible.
Feudism they say, thrives when the people are poorer and less educated.

Nigerians don't want to see these people for who they are!
Re: Aloy Chife Asks CBN To Abolish Official FOREX Market, Allow Naira Float by grandstar(m): 1:32pm On Nov 04, 2022
okeysoninv:
what about china? is yuan float, most even . do you under what float means? USA still controls dollars if you don't know.

The US greenback is floated. That does not mean the Federal Reserve does not intervene now and then.

Most people think that a float means free fall in the value of the currency. Is the Naira presently floated? No, but the Naira is dropping fast. The Naira is likely to suffer this experience under the strong peg system that Buhari as places undue pressure on the parallel market when the CBN is incapable of supplying enough fx at the official rate forcing many to turn to it.

And since the FG can not peg the parallel rate, a drastic drop starts, like what we see now.
Re: Aloy Chife Asks CBN To Abolish Official FOREX Market, Allow Naira Float by SKYHIGHfx: 1:45pm On Nov 04, 2022
dododawa1:
EMEFELE ( IGBO CBN governor) and BUHARI ( FULANI president) sabotaging NIGERIA,but d IDIOTs are blaming TINUBU

Na edo man ooo
Re: Aloy Chife Asks CBN To Abolish Official FOREX Market, Allow Naira Float by teemac01(m): 2:52pm On Nov 04, 2022
Emeskhalifa:
THE CURRENCY SITUATION: A MUST READ

1). So many Nigerians have stacked Naira notes in their closets and are cut up with this policy of the CBN. There is a rush by ignorant Nigerians to convert their Naira to Dollars. Naira is at all time low against dollar and it's going to go even lower. For example a man converts #10m to 12,500 USD at the current exchange rate. It's easier to keep it with himself than to deposit in a Domiciliary account with a DMB because of the stringent policies around FX cash deposits. He hopes that by December when the new Nigeria is floated, he'd have his FX converted back to Naira from the Aboki guys he bought his USD from.

2)The Aboki man who sold FX to his customers at exorbitant rate excitedly goes to the DMB to deposit the millions of Naira he got the the FX swap he did. He knows he is getting richer in geometric proportion by this new policy by the CBN. He awaits the printing of the new Naira notes so as to reconvert the Naira he has in his account today USD and continue making more money.


3). All customers who deposited their Naira notes, those depositing and those who would be depositing are eagerly waiting for December 15. The DMBs are also waiting for the said date. Meanwhile there is a cashless policy waiting to hit all Nigerians by January 2023. On December 15th, customers would rush to the DMBs for new notes so as to withdraw as much as they can before January when the cashless policy would be effected 100%. The DMBS would rush to the central bank branches to withdraw new notes. The branches would go to the H/O for new notes. H/O would release just a little to branches based on cash management policies. CBN Branches would release in trinkets to DMB branches and tell them to go manage their customers. DMBs would revert back to their customers based on the low available new cash notes. There would be slight panicking as customers who deposited old naira notes cannot retrieve same notes from the DMBs anymore because of unavailability. Remember, digital money and paper money is still money and so customers would be advised to use electronic channels to make payments.

4) The Aboki guy who kept millions of Naira is also a victim of the shortage of new notes and so he cannot buy back FX from his customers who were hoping to return the ones the got earlier ones the new notes are in place. Aboki begins to panick as well. Those who have FX and need naira notes begin to sell their FX to people who have naira whether old or new just to cash in before January. In doing so, USD begins to crash as rapidly as it rose. Much of the FX becomes deposited in DMBs as carrying the raw cash isn't useful anymore. The CBN is happy because there is more FX in the banking system to give for Forms A, M and Q. Naira begins to gain rapidly against the dollar.

5). In January, cashless policy takes effect. So even if the CBN makes available more new notes to DMBs, customers cannot withdraw above the stipulated across-the-counter limit to avoid heavy charges. Customers are forced to use electronic payments, FX policy and transfer and withdrawal is so stiff that swapping FX and Naira is no more a gain. USD parallel and black market prices crash all the way down to CBN rate. Inflation based on importation of goods and services is checked as Naira becomes strong against dollar. People who have physical dollars would lose. There would be limited access to naira notes as electronic transfers become prevalent. Enaira purchases also become more as Nigerians look for most seamless methods to do payments. By June, whoever takes over power would have a soft landing as this policy by the CBN has controlled a whole lot of inflation, corruption and economic degradation.

6). If you have Naira notes stashed with you, return them back to the bank through your account. Don't try to play smart trying to beat the system, you may become the architect of your own loss. Your 12,500 USD may fall from #10,000,000 to #5,000,000 in June, 2023. Meanwhile if you put same #10,000,000 in Treasury Bills at the current 14.5%, you should be gaining about #725,000 at the same period.

Let's try and look at the bright side of things, Nigeria shall be great by God's grace.



If wishes were horses, beggars would ride

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Re: Aloy Chife Asks CBN To Abolish Official FOREX Market, Allow Naira Float by Djhitmusiq1: 4:03pm On Nov 04, 2022
okeysoninv:
they should abolish official and approve black market rate so that naira will exchange to #3000. illiterate everywhere. even USA and China doesn't float their currency. no way in the world allowed black market to determine the trajectory of it's currency except in Nigeria. rather kill the spectators and hoarders that buys up dollars available. CBN can regulate the bank but can't monitor aboki BDC. it's a shame of the country


Please check your facts. Most developed countries including the USA float their currencies. Google is your friend. I’m not sure if you know what floating means in macroeconomics.
Re: Aloy Chife Asks CBN To Abolish Official FOREX Market, Allow Naira Float by okeysoninv: 4:32pm On Nov 04, 2022
Djhitmusiq1:



Please check your facts. Most developed countries including the USA float their currencies. Google is your friend. I’m not sure if you know what floating means in macroeconomics.
no country float it currency .Their central bank do interfere in one way or the other. Egypt once tried it float their currency . the end wasn't sweet for them. there is no total out of control of currency whereby you allow demand and supply to determine the indices of currency. go and ask Egypt what they saw in 2016. meantime naira is suffering cabal terrorism not import and export index.
Re: Aloy Chife Asks CBN To Abolish Official FOREX Market, Allow Naira Float by pa3k001: 4:33pm On Nov 04, 2022
Dearlord:


How sure are you that naira will not recover?

Those assumptions are the reality taking effect and that will determine the factors of it stability or instability.
U also don't quite get it. Let me make it simple (my explanation wnt make sense if u dnt read his article again)

He said that every1 is rushing to buy the dollar now and went ahead to assume that every1 will rush to change it back to the new naira note later.(which will be scarce). My question is why will som1 rush to change his dollar back to naira another question is why will I change d dollar back to paper naira..(which of cus would be scarce).......why can't d aboki pay into my acc so I can go cashless. (He assumed dat d quest for scarce paper naira will cause the usd to loosed value which infact nobody will go d paper direction)

U see....u can't cheat d system. The only way naira will bounce back is for nigeria to earn foreign currency (dollar) to buffer changes in rate. Or usd is redesigned (this will force ppl to bring out their hard currency)
Re: Aloy Chife Asks CBN To Abolish Official FOREX Market, Allow Naira Float by Ijb11: 4:40pm On Nov 04, 2022
Hmmm

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