Welcome, Guest: Register On Nairaland / LOGIN! / Trending / Recent / New
Stats: 3,153,833 members, 7,820,915 topics. Date: Wednesday, 08 May 2024 at 02:36 AM

Erelu Bisi Fayemi Writes To Minister Of Education Over Sex Education - Education (3) - Nairaland

Nairaland Forum / Nairaland / General / Education / Erelu Bisi Fayemi Writes To Minister Of Education Over Sex Education (11641 Views)

Is This Not Too Much Sex Education For Kids? / “Our Client Wanted To Say Pupsy"– Lawyer Writes To Federal Polytechnic Nekede / UNILAG Sacks Boniface Igbeneghu & Samuel Omoniyi Over Sex For Grade Scandal (2) (3) (4)

(1) (2) (3) (Reply) (Go Down)

Re: Erelu Bisi Fayemi Writes To Minister Of Education Over Sex Education by Chiedygirl: 8:21pm On Nov 06, 2022
Ignoring something doesn't automatically make it non-existent, illiterate parents might appear to have More values, but remember that those values were instilled in those illiterate parents when external influences on children were very minimal, you can't compare the environment kids are growing up in now to the environment our parents grew up in, the external influences on kids these days are overwhelming, and instilling values isn't enough. Parents can do help by being better friends to their children, and by educating themselves for the sake of their children, parenthood has gone beyond the stage of just providing the basic 4: food, shelter, clothing, and education. Our kids are In a battle field and it's our responsibility as guardians to equip ourselves with the right knowledge to guide them to a better future. My point is, the old method of just instilling values isn't producing the same results as previously, most kids these days don't understand why they need to remain sexually pure till marriage, even after being drilled with mechanical values, these kids still fall prey to societal manipulations because they are not well equipped to tackle the menace of sexual perversion that's rife in our society, some parents subdued their children so bad they couldn't stand up to elders who wanted to take advantage of them, have you asked yourself why sexual promiscuity is very high among people who live in rural areas, even with all the values the illiterate parents who reside there are supposed to have. As I said earlier, currently most parents, literate and illiterate aren't capable, mentally, biologically, psychologically and spiritually in giving their wards Sex Education, delegating this task to them would mean that we're not ready to make any headways with regards to this issue, currently this issue is bigger than just the parents alone, students spend more time in schools these days, so I don't see why the school shouldn't play a part in this, albeit under strict supervision, the government also has a part to play with regards to censoring a lot of rubbish our kids are exposed to daily, the greatest onus lies with the parents, but are they ready to take up the challenge? And if they are not ready shouldn't we work with alternatives that'll empower our kids so they don't fall prey to sexual predators, and also to guide them so They don't end up abusing their bodies and their souls in pursuit of sexual wokeness.

Naira20:
Pal, some things are basic in parenting. Don't allow anyone deceive you with many of these stories that illiterate parents don't know zilch.
Some of these illiterate parents have values and they instill them.Whilst many of us from educated parents are the ones exposed to nonsense in the name of being woke.
Did you remember the 10year old girl who the "educated" mum alleged was raped when they went on excursion to Dubai?

How many 10 year olds in local schools where sex education was never mentioned would try such?
You think they don't teach sex education in that school?

And Who thinks more about making money at the expense of child discipline? The "educated" parent or illiterate parent?
Besides what the eyes doesn't see, the mouth doesn't water for.

Would you start researching Kreb's Cycle without anyone mentioning it to you?

Re: Erelu Bisi Fayemi Writes To Minister Of Education Over Sex Education by Cromagnon: 8:29pm On Nov 06, 2022
NSNA:
This woman should be the Minister Of Education and not the other way round
so they can corrupt your children like the west abi?
Re: Erelu Bisi Fayemi Writes To Minister Of Education Over Sex Education by Cromagnon: 8:32pm On Nov 06, 2022
Henix:
A supposed Minister of Education is against sex education in this 21st century? What a country!
sec education destroying the west
What is good about sex education.
Name one one good thing the govt does well? One policy that has not ended in tears
Re: Erelu Bisi Fayemi Writes To Minister Of Education Over Sex Education by Naira20: 8:32pm On Nov 06, 2022
I was answering your points one after the other until I got to the bolded.
I had to delete everything because it's pointless.

Suffice it to say, there's no need to waste the time of our kids learning what can be taught by responsible parents and other subjects like basic science.

I'm not from the north and I can tell you for a fact that "doing better" is relative.

Sex education isn't why we are "doing better".Good upbringing and family values produces a better society.
Our parents reminded us to remember the child of whom we are and we upheld our values of chastity.

So if sex education is what made you better than others, you may enlighten us more.

Theunbothered:

The different functions of the sex organs, the different methods of preventing unwanted pregnancy, sexual abuse and diseases.




People are not born with this information, they learn it from others or the Internet. Better for them to learn in a controlled environment before others influence them.

It was people just lied more, how do you think HIV spread so fast in Africa?




That is why we have a curriculum with teaching guidelines that the ministry of education should provide instead of collecting money for nothing.



There is nothing spiritual about sex, people's sex organs work the same regardless of religion.



This "useless education" is part of the reason why the South is doing better than the North. Uncontrolled birth rates and blinding people with religion.

Re: Erelu Bisi Fayemi Writes To Minister Of Education Over Sex Education by Theunbothered: 8:52pm On Nov 06, 2022
Naira20:
I was answering your points one after the other until I got to the bolded.
I had to delete everything because it's pointless.

Your pastors lied to you, everything they attributed to spirits was them trying to scare you away from sex. Unfortunately not everyone shares your view on spirituality but everyone in the country is affected by unwanted pregnancy and STDS.

Suffice it to say, there's no need to waste the time of our kids learning what can be taught by responsible parents and other subjects like basic science.

How is teaching information that can prevent a lifetime of unnecessary suffering and poverty a waste? You and I know parents won't teach their children anything because of the taboo mentality you have so stop trying to act smart.


I'm not from the north and I can tell you for a fact that "doing better" is relative.

Sex education isn't why we are "doing better".Good upbringing and family values produces a better society.
Our parents reminded us to remember the child of whom we are and we upheld our values of chastity.

So if sex education is what made you better than others, you may enlighten us more.


The north values chastity and modesty more than any region in the country but women there will have 6 children by 25 with no plan on how to take care of them. Most do not even want that many children but are ignorant on how to prevent pregnancy they are not ready for.
Re: Erelu Bisi Fayemi Writes To Minister Of Education Over Sex Education by Chiedygirl: 8:53pm On Nov 06, 2022
I never said we should copy the western way of Sex Education verbatim, their methods has its shortcomings, our traditional method of Sex Education isn't working currently either, it's just like putting new wine in an old wine skin, we can't keep regurgitating the same old sayings, we need to upgrade our methods to combat the current societal deficiencies that's our kids encounter everyday. You'll tell your kids that their sexual organ is only for urinating, and that changes only when they get married, right? What happens when they go to school and meet kids who have been exposed to other uses of their sex organs, what happens when those kids educate them on better ways to use their sex organs, and they actually go on and experience the supposed 'better ways' and they find out that it feels better than just using it for urinating. In our current society, you can't hide things from children, except you plan on locking them up till they're about to get married, the best you can do is to exposé them to these things before someone else with a perverse mind does, and once the latter happens, forget it, you've lost that child. Bringing up a child in a godly way isn't as easy as it used to be, the challenges are more now, and if you keep using the same methods our
Elders used, wouldn't that be tantamount to using a primary five syllabus to teach 2nd year students in the University? Sexual predators are getting smarter, isn't it time we got wiser?
Panda7:


there is no reason or anything to talk about with sex, the western world you are talking about are the mainstream producer of pornographic films and are heavily promoting and taxing it which everyone know the wild defection and the corruption that comes with that. they too are also the ones promoting homosexuality and transgender, what would you say or promote about that?? for long as i know and was taught the sex organ was made for urination only unless you are married and wants to make babies or unless you are stalking prostitution.

1 Like

Re: Erelu Bisi Fayemi Writes To Minister Of Education Over Sex Education by Naira20: 9:08pm On Nov 06, 2022
Pal, there's nothing new under the sun.The important thing is know what's right as a parent and instill it.
There's no one cap fits all method.

How can a formal method to handling a sensitive thing as sex or morality be more effective than an informal method? How?? What happens in most formal training is cloning a particular way of doing things.What if you have a gay teacher who has a different view about sex and he subtly influences your child orientation about life?
As a teacher, we do more than talking. We demonstrate and cleverly replicate us into our students.

Why leave morals to another person? Why are you a parent? Fine,you can't be there all the time but be there for them in their formative years.If you aren't ready for children or marriage please steer clear.

It reminds.me of the story a woman told some years ago.
One of her sons came to her and started asking questions apparently because of what they were taught in school -a boarding school.
He asked many questions which the mother answered normally until the young boy begged the mum passionately to UnCloth so he could see her vagina. That was when the mum knew there was trouble.

Imagine the unnecessary curiosity that was engendered in that Innocent boy.

What you show your kid as their first role model is key and must be deliberate. Yes, immorality is prevalent but what are you doing to guide these impressionable minds?
How spiritually sensitive are you to pick things?I'm not talking about dragging kids to church o.If your children know that you can pick things spiritually, they'd be careful.

Away from spirituality.

Which child is more likely to try sex.
The one you told that condom can protect STDs and Pregnancy or the one who never heard about condom but knows the terrible implications of premarital sex?

Chiedygirl:
Ignoring something doesn't automatically make it non-existent, illiterate parents might appear to have More values, but remember that those values were instilled in those illiterate parents when external influences on children were very minimal, you can't compare the environment kids are growing up in now to the environment our parents grew up in, the external influences on kids these days are overwhelming, and instilling values isn't enough. Parents can do help by being better friends to their children, and by educating themselves for the sake of their children, parenthood has gone beyond the stage of just providing the basic 4: food, shelter, clothing, and education. Our kids are In a battle field and it's our responsibility as guardians to equip ourselves with the right knowledge to guide them to a better future. My point is, the old method of just instilling values isn't producing the same results as previously, most kids these days don't understand why they need to remain sexually pure till marriage, even after being drilled with mechanical values, these kids still fall prey to societal manipulations because they are not well equipped to tackle the menace of sexual perversion that's rife in our society, some parents subdued their children so bad they couldn't stand up to elders who wanted to take advantage of them, have you asked yourself why sexual promiscuity is very high among people who live in rural areas, even with all the values the illiterate parents who reside there are supposed to have. As I said earlier, currently most parents, literate and illiterate aren't capable, mentally, biologically, psychologically and spiritually in giving their wards Sex Education, delegating this task to them would mean that we're not ready to make any headways with regards to this issue, currently this issue is bigger than just the parents alone, students spend more time in schools these days, so I don't see why the school shouldn't play a part in this, albeit under strict supervision, the government also has a part to play with regards to censoring a lot of rubbish our kids are exposed to daily, the greatest onus lies with the parents, but are they ready to take up the challenge? And if they are not ready shouldn't we work with alternatives that'll empower our kids so they don't fall prey to sexual predators, and also to guide them so They don't end up abusing their bodies and their souls in pursuit of sexual wokeness.

Re: Erelu Bisi Fayemi Writes To Minister Of Education Over Sex Education by Naira20: 9:12pm On Nov 06, 2022
The question is how did sex education turn you to who you've become?
Forget your postulations that you read from books.
Theunbothered:


Your pastors lied to you, everything they attributed to spirits was them trying to scare you away from sex. Unfortunately not everyone shares your view on spirituality but everyone in the country is affected by unwanted pregnancy and STDS.



How is teaching information that can prevent a lifetime of unnecessary suffering and poverty a waste? You and I know parents won't teach their children anything because of the taboo mentality you have so stop trying to act smart.



The north values chastity and modesty more than any region in the country but women there will have 6 children by 25 with no plan on how to take care of them. Most do not even want that many children but are ignorant on how to prevent pregnancy they are not ready for.

Re: Erelu Bisi Fayemi Writes To Minister Of Education Over Sex Education by Theunbothered: 9:17pm On Nov 06, 2022
Naira20:
The question is how did sex education turn you to who you've become?
Forget your postulations that you read from books.

I have completed school, no unwanted children, no abortion, no STDS, meanwhile many people my age are struggling to feed the children they never wanted all because they were ignorant.
Re: Erelu Bisi Fayemi Writes To Minister Of Education Over Sex Education by Naira20: 9:21pm On Nov 06, 2022
And you don't know anybody around you or lineage without a degree in Sex Education who didnot have unwanted pregnancy and was able to feed themselves?
Theunbothered:


I have completed school, no unwanted children, no abortion, no STDS, meanwhile many people my age are struggling to feed the children they never wanted all because they were ignorant.
Re: Erelu Bisi Fayemi Writes To Minister Of Education Over Sex Education by fleshbone(m): 9:32pm On Nov 06, 2022
Mindlog:


Is your boss and his wife offering their daughter sexual education at home?

Maybe not. I would rather we advocate that parents get the right knowledge an do so.

My fear is not how innocent the intention seem. But what it grow up to become.

Kids are enlightened on gender selection as well. God forbid. I don't want my male child knowing they can identify as female or vice versa. And this is already happening in the so called advanced country.

A male child can decide to go into the female rest room and claim he identifies as a female.

Like I said, the fear remains what it become.
Re: Erelu Bisi Fayemi Writes To Minister Of Education Over Sex Education by Chiedygirl: 9:45pm On Nov 06, 2022
There's nothing wrong with a parent being the first line of defense, it's something I've been advocating for via my previous posts.

As a parent, I'll never depend on a teacher to educate my kids about sex, because I believe I'm more adept at it than they'll be

Now, that's not where the problem lies, what happens to those kids whose parents know next to nothing about Sex Education, it's not every parent that has the capacity that we both have, how do you ensure that every parent takes Sex Education seriously, you're doing your part as a parent, what about the vast multitude of kids your child will be interacting with daily, kids from parents who might or might not take this issue seriously.

I agree that it's risky to just delegate This responsibility to schools, especially when we don't know the mindset of the teachers that'll be interacting with our kids, but I believe that, if both parents and school Authorities can strictly supervise both the syllabus and the personnel handling the course, to prevent any act of subterfuge from the teachers. this might help to mitigate the side effects of this approach.


Personally, I believe it's the primary duty of the parents to give their children Sex Education, but what happens when a lot of parents aren't mentally equipped to do so?

Naira20:
Pal, there's nothing new under the sun.The important thing is know what's right as a parent and instill it.
There's no one cap fits all method.

How can a formal method to handling a sensitive thing as sex or morality be more effective than an informal method? How?? What happens in most formal training is cloning a particular way of doing things.What if you have a gay teacher who has a different view about sex and he subtly influences your child orientation about life?
As a teacher, we do more than talking. We demonstrate and cleverly replicate us into our students.

Why leave morals to another person? Why are you a parent? Fine,you can't be there all the time but be there for them in their formative years.If you aren't ready for children or marriage please steer clear.

It reminds.me of the story a woman told some years ago.
One of her sons came to her and started asking questions apparently because of what they were taught in school -a boarding school.
He asked many questions which the mother answered normally until the young boy begged the mum passionately to UnCloth so he could see her vagina. That was when the mum knew there was trouble.

Imagine the unnecessary curiosity that was engendered in that Innocent boy.

What you show your kid as their first role model is key and must be deliberate. Yes, immorality is prevalent but what are you doing to guide these impressionable minds?
How spiritually sensitive are you to pick things?I'm not talking about dragging kids to church o.If your children know that you can pick things spiritually, they'd be careful.

Away from spirituality.

Which child is more likely to try sex.
The one you told that condom can protect STDs and Pregnancy or the one who never heard about condom but knows the terrible implications of premarital sex?

Re: Erelu Bisi Fayemi Writes To Minister Of Education Over Sex Education by Mindlog: 10:03pm On Nov 06, 2022
fleshbone:


Maybe not. I would rather we advocate that parents get the right knowledge an do so.

My fear is not how innocent the intention seem. But what it grow up to become.

Kids are enlightened on gender selection as well. God forbid. I don't want my male child knowing they can identify as female or vice versa. And this is already happening in the so called advanced country.

A male child can decide to go into the female rest room and claim he identifies as a female.

Like I said, the fear remains what it become.

Who is to provide that "right knowledge" to parents? cheesy

1 Like

Re: Erelu Bisi Fayemi Writes To Minister Of Education Over Sex Education by Theunbothered: 10:15pm On Nov 06, 2022
Naira20:
And you don't know anybody around you or lineage without a degree in Sex Education who didnot have unwanted pregnancy and was able to feed themselves?

Who is talking about degree this is basic knowledge that young people can understand. Use your sense for crying out loud.
Re: Erelu Bisi Fayemi Writes To Minister Of Education Over Sex Education by culf: 11:13pm On Nov 06, 2022
what a piece! awesome
Re: Erelu Bisi Fayemi Writes To Minister Of Education Over Sex Education by Exodora: 11:44pm On Nov 06, 2022
JustStupidity:
Madam we know your problem.

Just go and settle yourself with Love Machine and allow us to rest, please.

What do you know about intimacy education.
The problem with people is that their mentality is very poor. How I wish everyone thinks like me.

Madam whether you like it or not, S_ex has come to stay and that's our right and inheritance from our fore fathers, so you won't deny us our right.

No time, let me even go and fvck �
So what does your mentality say about you, mtcheeeeew!
Re: Erelu Bisi Fayemi Writes To Minister Of Education Over Sex Education by Exodora: 11:47pm On Nov 06, 2022
creolehunt:


Thought so too. Why didnt she just mail the man?
I don’t think you read with full comprehension.
This is not the first time she has written something like but now she has to make it public because the first time she wrote privately it didn’t not yield any positive result.
Re: Erelu Bisi Fayemi Writes To Minister Of Education Over Sex Education by OLULAW: 12:43am On Nov 07, 2022
One of the biggest problems beguiling Nigeria is that nonentities and complete imbeciles are in charge of various sectors of Nigeria, vis-a-vis, healthcare, education, governance, etc. Nigeria is fast becoming Zimbabwe if it hasn't already overtaken it. £1 currently gives you 968 Naira. Sad. Ichabod!
Re: Erelu Bisi Fayemi Writes To Minister Of Education Over Sex Education by MediaNurse: 5:09am On Nov 07, 2022
JustStupidity:
Madam we know your problem.

Just go and settle yourself with Love Machine and allow us to rest, please.

What do you know about intimacy education.
The problem with people is that their mentality is very poor. How I wish everyone thinks like me.

Madam whether you like it or not, S_ex has come to stay and that's our right and inheritance from our fore fathers, so you won't deny us our right.

No time, let me even go and fvck �

Did you even read the post at all?

1 Like

Re: Erelu Bisi Fayemi Writes To Minister Of Education Over Sex Education by Naira20: 7:10am On Nov 07, 2022
Lol...
Theunbothered:


Who is talking about degree this is basic knowledge that young people can understand. Use your sense for crying out loud.
Re: Erelu Bisi Fayemi Writes To Minister Of Education Over Sex Education by sageb: 7:24am On Nov 07, 2022
Re: Erelu Bisi Fayemi Writes To Minister Of Education Over Sex Education by cuteboy2: 10:19am On Nov 07, 2022
Same way Buhari reportedly ordered removal of history as a subject from secondary school curriculum. This people are just hell bent on keeping the masses ignorant and uninformed so they can keep them subservient

Tobechuckwu:
What kind of country is this that a Minister will just wake up nd try to remove something from curriculum without going through due process?

How on Earth will a Minister just want to remove sex education from d curriculum bcuz of his religion?
Re: Erelu Bisi Fayemi Writes To Minister Of Education Over Sex Education by TUANKU(m): 11:10am On Nov 07, 2022
This woman is a Tinubu supporter. Banza kawaii.
Re: Erelu Bisi Fayemi Writes To Minister Of Education Over Sex Education by JoshuaSG: 6:37pm On Nov 07, 2022
According to the minister, sex education at basic education level will corrupt students at such an early stage. But many of the parents into whose hands the minister wants sex education entrusted are the ones who actually corrupt their children right from home. The children then export their home-borne sexually corrupt minds to schools and share the same among their mates. So, if the minister is really serious in his fight against sexual corruption among school children, he will have to spread the campaign to parents to live a life worth emulating. Until present-day mothers give up such lifestyles as putting on bum shorts and similar ways of life like showy eye lashes, butt pads, etc. either for themselves or the children, eradicating sex education in school will never eradicate children's corruption at junior school level.

Also, to Madam Erelu, her position that sex education will help to prevent unwanted teenage pregnancy is half-thought. The best therapy against unwanted pregnancy among school children is one that avoids sexual intimacy between them. Sex education at a basic level can not achieve such a feat. Instead, it will rather promote sexual tendencies among school children who will think they already know how to 'cut corners' with their knowledge of sex education.

The increasing rate of sexual activities among teenagers is one of the results of westernization of activities and events in the country. As long as these values continue to influence our lifestyle, our traditional value system diminishes with juvenile delinquency as one of the many symptoms.

Value re-orientation is the only way out, not the eradication or adoption of sex education in school.

(1) (2) (3) (Reply)

Things You Must Do As A Freshman In A Higher Institution / University Of Ibadan 2017/2018 Post-UTME Form Is Out. Cut-Off Remains 200 / President Buhari Directs Tetfund To Inject N24bn Into 12 New Varsities

(Go Up)

Sections: politics (1) business autos (1) jobs (1) career education (1) romance computers phones travel sports fashion health
religion celebs tv-movies music-radio literature webmasters programming techmarket

Links: (1) (2) (3) (4) (5) (6) (7) (8) (9) (10)

Nairaland - Copyright © 2005 - 2024 Oluwaseun Osewa. All rights reserved. See How To Advertise. 80
Disclaimer: Every Nairaland member is solely responsible for anything that he/she posts or uploads on Nairaland.