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Re: Two-Storey Building Collapses In Rivers state, Three Feared Dead (Photos) by omonnakoda: 6:12pm On Feb 05, 2023
Does government test the quality of cement in the market?
Re: Two-Storey Building Collapses In Rivers state, Three Feared Dead (Photos) by cejaypriesty(m): 6:22pm On Feb 05, 2023
thuxzwda1:


grin grin
Is this funny to you?
Re: Two-Storey Building Collapses In Rivers state, Three Feared Dead (Photos) by Tozocalamity: 6:30pm On Feb 05, 2023
Misterc:
Why do I have this feeling that these so called "Bricklayers" got a taste of their medicine had it been the building was fully completed...
How could the masons and the Bricklayers not know the various measurements of both sands and cements including chippings that could sustain their storey building ordeal angry angry angry
I'll only say God grant their families the fortitude to bear the losses
the laboures are only a victim of cirmcumstance. They are nt the ones that make major decisions in a site like the quality and quantity of materials to be used fos construction. That responsibilty lies with the site engineer. Be guided

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Re: Two-Storey Building Collapses In Rivers state, Three Feared Dead (Photos) by EmekaA125(m): 6:52pm On Feb 05, 2023
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Re: Two-Storey Building Collapses In Rivers state, Three Feared Dead (Photos) by EmekaA125(m): 6:52pm On Feb 05, 2023
RIP to the victims.
Re: Two-Storey Building Collapses In Rivers state, Three Feared Dead (Photos) by Diligent1(f): 7:18pm On Feb 05, 2023
Coolsperm:
So sorry about that, but we Yoruba Christian's will never vote for Muslim Muslim ticket we are not fools, even Muric told Yoruba Muslims not to vote Yoruba Christian's and they all agreed,
What is Yoruba Christian or Yoruba Muslim, please we are one.
I have Christians and Muslims as family members and we are one.
Re: Two-Storey Building Collapses In Rivers state, Three Feared Dead (Photos) by thuxzwda1: 7:43pm On Feb 05, 2023
cejaypriesty:

Is this funny to you?




And when did I say death of 3 youth Is funny.........
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If you like no use ur aggression go vote for the future.......dey here dey whyne grin grin
Re: Two-Storey Building Collapses In Rivers state, Three Feared Dead (Photos) by Mac2016(m): 7:54pm On Feb 05, 2023
Cutting corners to save or steal money will never end well. Employ structural engineers they won't.

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Re: Two-Storey Building Collapses In Rivers state, Three Feared Dead (Photos) by Mrkumareze(m): 8:10pm On Feb 05, 2023
Weirdcamila:
I must build mansion .
Build what you can afford to build with standard material and standard procedures.
The government should put a law that will dispose anyone with a failed structure of land ownership rights.
So sad

The same government that failed to tackle substandard building materials littering all d corners of the country
Re: Two-Storey Building Collapses In Rivers state, Three Feared Dead (Photos) by DOM7: 9:12pm On Feb 05, 2023
When Wike begin to romance with Tinubu what use to happen in Lagos will surely happen in Port Harcourt.
Re: Two-Storey Building Collapses In Rivers state, Three Feared Dead (Photos) by Lacash: 9:51pm On Feb 05, 2023
EBMedia:


https://igberetvnews.com/1438330/three-feared-dead-two-storey-building-collapses-rivers-state-photos/
Can u imagine, Isi Ewu road, as in Goat Head road….This one taya me😃😃
Re: Two-Storey Building Collapses In Rivers state, Three Feared Dead (Photos) by Nobody: 9:54pm On Feb 05, 2023
You Don't Love God If This Sign Doesn't Show

Apostle Arome Osayi

Listen And Learn


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3i10wrfsQNY
Re: Two-Storey Building Collapses In Rivers state, Three Feared Dead (Photos) by MasterTeeUSA: 10:07pm On Feb 05, 2023
Please if you are NOT an Engineer and just ran into money be it Govt or by JAPA or can't hire an Engineer and be on ground, please STOP building storey buildings.

1. You try to save money by cutting corners. It will be a disaster.
2. You are not an Engineer so you have no idea what needs to be done. It will end up in disaster
3. You hire people and they buy inferior products because you are not on ground, it will end up in disaster.

First, FOUNDATION must be Deep for a storey building because it can begin shifting from the BASE. You have to concrete pour not the concrete that they will mix and add to the pillar areas alone.

Second, You must use 16mm or larger steel for the Bottom or the Bottom 2 Floors it you want to go 3 or more floors after making a solid deep concrete pour foundation

Third, the upper levels must be 12mm so it won't be too heavy and you need appropriate pillars.

It is NICE and fancy to want open flooring but think of the weight of what you are putting and the Load bearing. Thankfully people are not living inside these collapsed houses at full capacity.

For your BLOCKS, you need to buy solid blocks
..the more expensive ones from a reputable dealer and use appropriate number of cement. Storey Buildings are super EXPENSIVE to construct. If you can't, stick to BUNGALOW because LAS LAS, you will end up losing it up if you don't end up in JAIL on top.






EBMedia:


https://igberetvnews.com/1438330/three-feared-dead-two-storey-building-collapses-rivers-state-photos/
Re: Two-Storey Building Collapses In Rivers state, Three Feared Dead (Photos) by GenderMix: 4:07am On Feb 06, 2023
Misterc:

They didn't take up the jobs at gun point ma'am.... Knowing the kinda tools to work with is always their SOP (Standard Operation Procedure) so when they understood the kinda risks they themselves the builders will be getting into; For the sakes of their families and loved ones... Why didn't they let the job pass?

You have a point though. However, in building construction the burden of building collapse lies solely on the professionals who designed and supervised the construction.

The collapse could just be as a result of design calculation/decision errors.

These designs are being interpreted by the supervisors so the artisans just follow instructions, hence you can't blame them.
Re: Two-Storey Building Collapses In Rivers state, Three Feared Dead (Photos) by GenderMix: 4:18am On Feb 06, 2023
MasterTeeUSA:
Please if you are NOT an Engineer and just ran into money be it Govt or by JAPA or can't hire an Engineer and be on ground, please STOP building storey buildings.

1. You try to save money by cutting corners. It will be a disaster.
2. You are not an Engineer so you have no idea what needs to be done. It will end up in disaster
3. You hire people and they buy inferior products because you are not on ground, it will end up in disaster.

First, FOUNDATION must be Deep for a storey building because it can begin shifting from the BASE. You have to concrete pour not the concrete that they will mix and add to the pillar areas alone.

Second, You must use 16mm or larger steel for the Bottom or the Bottom 2 Floors it you want to go 3 or more floors after making a solid deep concrete pour foundation

Third, the upper levels must be 12mm so it won't be too heavy and you need appropriate pillars.

It is NICE and fancy to want open flooring but think of the weight of what you are putting and the Load bearing. Thankfully people are not living inside these collapsed houses at full capacity.

For your BLOCKS, you need to buy solid blocks
..the more expensive ones from a reputable dealer and use appropriate number of cement. Storey Buildings are super EXPENSIVE to construct. If you can't, stick to BUNGALOW because LAS LAS, you will end up losing it up if you don't end up in JAIL on top.







It is good to advise people to be careful but to give specifications without design basis is actually unprofessional.

Those who intend to build houses should contact registered professionals in the building industry starting with an Architect. Ensure that registered structural engineers are engaged as well if it's not a bungalow.

Telling people to use 16mm, 12mm etc when you have not seen even a soil test is foul play.

Let's be guided

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Re: Two-Storey Building Collapses In Rivers state, Three Feared Dead (Photos) by marley145: 6:48am On Feb 06, 2023
Weirdcamila:
I must build mansion .
Build what you can afford to build with standard material and standard procedures.
The government should put a law that will dispose anyone with a failed structure of land ownership rights.
So sad
Anambra state has been doing it since long time now, build a failed project and loose the ownership of the property
Re: Two-Storey Building Collapses In Rivers state, Three Feared Dead (Photos) by paradigmshift(m): 8:48am On Feb 06, 2023
chiziking:
You Don't Love God If This Sign Doesn't Show

Apostle Arome Osayi

Listen And Learn


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3i10wrfsQNY
this man is the best, he speaks with boldness. I love him

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Re: Two-Storey Building Collapses In Rivers state, Three Feared Dead (Photos) by Cricketman: 10:49am On Feb 06, 2023
H.mm

Re: Two-Storey Building Collapses In Rivers state, Three Feared Dead (Photos) by MasterTeeUSA: 1:09pm On Feb 06, 2023
READ the first part of my statement that one must hire an Engineer and be on ground to supervise when needed in order to build a storey building. Even if the soil type is Lekki...you can still do all of the above ...Solid Foundation with concrete pour...16mm below and 12mm above is typical. WE ARE NOT TALKING OF SKYSCRAPER HERE. These are just standards. Every standard will have some outliers...but if you think all Nigerians will go soil test, you live in lala land. Even those that will carry out soil test professional or not can cut corners...abi no be the same Naija we dey. Based on your own experience building storey buildings, share what's typically the steps and let's guide our people a bit not just be a critic.





GenderMix:


It is good to advise people to be careful but to give specifications without design basis is actually unprofessional.

Those who intend to build houses should contact registered professionals in the building industry starting with an Architect. Ensure that registered structural engineers are engaged as well if it's not a bungalow.

Telling people to use 16mm, 12mm etc when you have not seen even a soil test is foul play.

Let's be guided

Re: Two-Storey Building Collapses In Rivers state, Three Feared Dead (Photos) by GenderMix: 5:38pm On Feb 06, 2023
MasterTeeUSA:
READ the first part of my statement that one must hire an Engineer and be on ground to supervise when needed in order to build a storey building. Even if the soil type is Lekki...you can still do all of the above ...Solid Foundation with concrete pour...16mm below and 12mm above is typical. WE ARE NOT TALKING OF SKYSCRAPER HERE. These are just standards. Every standard will have some outliers...but if you think all Nigerians will go soil test, you live in lala land. Even those that will carry out soil test professional or not can cut corners...abi no be the same Naija we dey. Based on your own experience building storey buildings, share what's typically the steps and let's guide our people a bit not just be a critic.





That's why it's very important to get registered professionals (those with licences to protect) not just anyone who says he's an architect or an engineer.

Your soil test must be carried out by a licenced geotechnical engineer not just anyone who claims to carry out soil test so they know who to hold if they cut corners (licenced engrs know the implications)

Even in some areas in lekki you mentioned, some 2-3 storey buildings require piling (which is a bit more complex in terms of reinforcements) so you can't just give specifications without knowing the exact area and the design basis.

Finally, just because people are using 12mm and 16mm rods within an area doesn't make it the standard. The advise to anyone should be to follow the design specifications in the structural drawings duly signed and sealed by a licenced engr as per structural matters.

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