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Looking For A Church Not After Money by gohf: 11:28am On Feb 05, 2023
0. If you're looking for a fellowship that doesn't collect tithes nor charge you for worshipping God nor for what God will do for you, you are welcome to join us.
9. We are about unity and love, freely we are given freely we give. Only love offerings given freely will be received, you are free to join and free to leave but you are not free to come and remain in your sins. You are free to attend or visit us, not obligated to do anything that God doesn't lead you to not attend services.
0. We do seek workers for the vineyard of God and those willing to share with one another and show the world what love is.

6. We don't expect you to be perfect but we expect you to obey the Lord's command to love.

6. We are not many in number for now but we are also not denominational and welcome everyone as many as come, we preach the gospel that is for all, we teach the truth from God's word and we discipline and disciple from the Spirit of God.

7. We are not tribalist and please do not expect to be treated special because of your status in society nor feel you are not welcomed because you are poor or suffering, we will offer love, comfort to as many as come to the Lord.

3. We are located at abule egba and hope to cover the areas of agege as we grow in the Lord and in love. 6.. We will be hosting evangelists and ministers training this year and possibly crusades to win souls and save lives.

7.. We call as many as possible, those called by God, those by the way side, those interested, those who wish to seek if God is real to come and experience God, His love, His power, His kingdom, His presence to heal your hearts and liberate your mind and souls.

0. As many as read this, be blessed and remain blessed in the name of Father God Jehovah, the name of the son Jesus and of the Holy Spirit, Amen.9

😇

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Re: Looking For A Church Not After Money by gohf: 1:02pm On Feb 05, 2023
God loves you

Re: Looking For A Church Not After Money by CodeTemplar: 4:50pm On Feb 05, 2023
Church of Satan?
Re: Looking For A Church Not After Money by gohf: 7:01pm On Feb 05, 2023
CodeTemplar:
Church of Satan?
No sir

Matthew 4:10 Then said Jesus to him, Get you hence, Satan: for it is written, You shall worship the Lord your God, and him only shall you serve.

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Re: Looking For A Church Not After Money by gohf: 5:09am On Feb 06, 2023
Good morning
Re: Looking For A Church Not After Money by gohf: 2:08pm On Feb 06, 2023
Hello
Re: Looking For A Church Not After Money by gohf: 5:05pm On Feb 06, 2023
Good evening everyone hope work went well
Re: Looking For A Church Not After Money by gohf: 9:19am On Feb 07, 2023
Good morning, may you have a blessed morning today
Re: Looking For A Church Not After Money by correctguy101(m): 9:40am On Feb 07, 2023
Na church wey dem dey share money we dey find o
Re: Looking For A Church Not After Money by gohf: 9:42am On Feb 07, 2023
correctguy101:
Na church wey dem dey share money we dey find o
doesn't everything have a price. Would you collect it without knowing what it would cost you?
Re: Looking For A Church Not After Money by correctguy101(m): 9:53am On Feb 07, 2023
gohf:
doesn't everything have a price. Would you collect it without knowing what it would cost you?

Very much aware of that bro.

Just idle this morning, no mind me.
Re: Looking For A Church Not After Money by gohf: 11:45am On Feb 07, 2023
correctguy101:


Very much aware of that bro.

Just idle this morning, no mind me.

😊 thanks for engaging all the same
Re: Looking For A Church Not After Money by elefind(m): 5:21pm On Feb 07, 2023
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Re: Looking For A Church Not After Money by MightySparrow: 9:01pm On Feb 07, 2023
gohf:
0. If you're looking for a fellowship that doesn't collect tithes nor charge you for worshipping God nor for what God will do for you, you are welcome to join us.
9. We are about unity and love, freely we are given freely we give. Only love offerings given freely will be received, you are free to join and free to leave but you are not free to come and remain in your sins. You are free to attend or visit us, not obligated to do anything that God doesn't lead you to not attend services.
0. We do seek workers for the vineyard of God and those willing to share with one another and show the world what love is.

6. We don't expect you to be perfect but we expect you to obey the Lord's command to love.

6. We are not many in number for now but we are also not denominational and welcome everyone as many as come, we preach the gospel that is for all, we teach the truth from God's word and we discipline and disciple from the Spirit of God.

7. We are not tribalist and please do not expect to be treated special because of your status in society nor feel you are not welcomed because you are poor or suffering, we will offer love, comfort to as many as come to the Lord.

3. We are located at abule egba and hope to cover the areas of agege as we grow in the Lord and in love. 6.. We will be hosting evangelists and ministers training this year and possibly crusades to win souls and save lives.

7.. We call as many as possible, those called by God, those by the way side, those interested, those who wish to seek if God is real to come and experience God, His love, His power, His kingdom, His presence to heal your hearts and liberate your mind and souls.

0. As many as read this, be blessed and remain blessed in the name of Father God Jehovah, the name of the son Jesus and of the Holy Spirit, Amen.9

😇



I am wary of a church like this. Hypocrisy smelling. Jesus ministry has a bag which a treasurer , Judas kept. He was the best pastor - bishop of our soul - yet under his watch, by choice Judas made hell.


This is what Jesus warned against.

Matt.24.38 - For in the days before the flood, people eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, up to the day Noah entered the ark;

Matt.24.38
There's not going to be any special group anywhere. This is also buttressed by the parable of the ten virgins both parties were asleep.

Paul encouraged us to come out of the world not to segregation of the body of Christ!
Re: Looking For A Church Not After Money by gohf: 8:04am On Feb 08, 2023
Good morning everyone
Re: Looking For A Church Not After Money by gohf: 7:50pm On Feb 08, 2023
Evening lovelies smiley😊
Re: Looking For A Church Not After Money by gohf: 7:29am On Feb 09, 2023
Good morning have a grace filled Thursday
Re: Looking For A Church Not After Money by gohf: 8:43pm On Feb 09, 2023
Have a good night
Re: Looking For A Church Not After Money by Ken4Christ: 11:03pm On Feb 09, 2023
gohf:
0. If you're looking for a fellowship that doesn't collect tithes nor charge you for worshipping God nor for what God will do for you, you are welcome to join us.
9. We are about unity and love, freely we are given freely we give. Only love offerings given freely will be received, you are free to join and free to leave but you are not free to come and remain in your sins. You are free to attend or visit us, not obligated to do anything that God doesn't lead you to not attend services.
0. We do seek workers for the vineyard of God and those willing to share with one another and show the world what love is.

6. We don't expect you to be perfect but we expect you to obey the Lord's command to love.

6. We are not many in number for now but we are also not denominational and welcome everyone as many as come, we preach the gospel that is for all, we teach the truth from God's word and we discipline and disciple from the Spirit of God.

7. We are not tribalist and please do not expect to be treated special because of your status in society nor feel you are not welcomed because you are poor or suffering, we will offer love, comfort to as many as come to the Lord.

3. We are located at abule egba and hope to cover the areas of agege as we grow in the Lord and in love. 6.. We will be hosting evangelists and ministers training this year and possibly crusades to win souls and save lives.

7.. We call as many as possible, those called by God, those by the way side, those interested, those who wish to seek if God is real to come and experience God, His love, His power, His kingdom, His presence to heal your hearts and liberate your mind and souls.

0. As many as read this, be blessed and remain blessed in the name of Father God Jehovah, the name of the son Jesus and of the Holy Spirit, Amen.9

😇


You are raising poor congregation. You want to make them poor. You ought to teach them how to give. Giving is one of the ways God has ordained us to be rich. When you deprive them from giving, you are programming them for poverty
Re: Looking For A Church Not After Money by tctrills: 11:26pm On Feb 09, 2023
MightySparrow:



I am wary of a church like this. Hypocrisy smelling. Jesus ministry has a bag which a treasurer , Judas kept. He was the best pastor - bishop of our soul - yet under his watch, by choice Judas made hell.


This is what Jesus warned against.

Matt.24.38 - For in the days before the flood, people eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, up to the day Noah entered the ark;

Matt.24.38
There's not going to be any special group anywhere. This is also buttressed by the parable of the ten virgins both parties were asleep.

Paul encouraged us to come out of the world not to segregation of the body of Christ!
You are wary of a church that does not take your money.
Re: Looking For A Church Not After Money by Aaronsrod: 11:55pm On Feb 09, 2023
Leave Africa.
Re: Looking For A Church Not After Money by MightySparrow: 12:55am On Feb 10, 2023
tctrills:

You are wary of a church that does not take your money.

No, I am wary of a church to that claim holier than Jesus!
Re: Looking For A Church Not After Money by gohf: 4:10am On Feb 10, 2023
Ken4Christ:


You are raising poor congregation. You want to make them poor. You ought to teach them how to give. Giving is one of the ways God has ordained us to be rich. When you deprive them from giving, you are programming them for poverty

How did you come about "raising a poor congregation" from that what you read?
where did God ordain you people to be rich?

Did you read the post? You obviously didn't and skipped through it like you probably do your Bible. Did you not read where I wrote "free will offering" did Jesus not teach to give freely and secretly.

To you Jesus must have been raising a poor congregation where he asked the rich man to give to the poor and follow him, even his disciples gave their all and then followed him. If that's the kind of congregation I am raising that isn't selfish and greedy, that would love their neighbors and help their families, that would pay a medical bill instead of saying the money is for to the or special seed "coban" and not even give to their parents. Hearts filled with lust and material things, who want more than to give. If such can't follow Jesus why should they follow me, isn't Jesus in me
Re: Looking For A Church Not After Money by gohf: 4:14am On Feb 10, 2023
MightySparrow:


No, I am wary of a church to that claim holier than Jesus!
in what way is such a church claiming to be holier than Jesus

Of course not, it is the greedy who would despise the very Lord and claim to follow him


Luke.16.13 - No servant can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.
Luke.16.14 - And the Pharisees also, who were covetous and loved money, heard all these things: and they derided him.
Luke.16.15 - And he said unto them, Ye are they which justify yourselves before men; but God knoweth your hearts: for that which is highly esteemed among men is abomination in the sight of God.
Re: Looking For A Church Not After Money by MightySparrow: 5:57am On Feb 10, 2023
gohf:
in what way is such a church claiming to be holier than Jesus

Of course not, it is the greedy who would despise the very Lord and claim to follow him


Luke.16.13 - No servant can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.
Luke.16.14 - And the Pharisees also, who were covetous and loved money, heard all these things: and they derided him.
Luke.16.15 - And he said unto them, Ye are they which justify yourselves before men; but God knoweth your hearts: for that which is highly esteemed among men is abomination in the sight of God.



You are not getting it. The OP says they don't give offerings at all. That is a lie. So they don't use any instruments, no welfare, no accommodation, no publicity including data to access Nairaland.
That is a lie.

That is not a Bible believing church. Even Jesus saw a widow giving her last as offering, rather than returning the money, she was commended for her faith in God.



So, Sir, what the ministry is denying in the beginning will be introduced later.

That is hypocrisy.
Re: Looking For A Church Not After Money by Ken4Christ: 7:10am On Feb 10, 2023
gohf:

How did you come about "raising a poor congregation" from that what you read?
where did God ordain you people to be rich?

Did you read the post? You obviously didn't and skipped through it like you probably do your Bible. Did you not read where I wrote "free will offering" did Jesus not teach to give freely and secretly.

To you Jesus must have been raising a poor congregation where he asked the rich man to give to the poor and follow him, even his disciples gave their all and then followed him. If that's the kind of congregation I am raising that isn't selfish and greedy, that would love their neighbors and help their families, that would pay a medical bill instead of saying the money is for to the or special seed "coban" and not even give to their parents. Hearts filled with lust and material things, who want more than to give. If such can't follow Jesus why should they follow me, isn't Jesus in me

When Jesus told the rich young man to sell all that he had and give to the poor, he was actually teaching him the way to true and lasting prosperity. When the man left in sadness, he unveiled to his disciples what happens to those who give up anything for the sake of his kingdom. He said that they will receive them all back in this world a hundred fold increase.

Read Mark 10:29-30.

29 And Jesus answered and said, Verily I say unto you, There is no man that hath left house, or brethren, or sisters, or father, or mother, or wife, or children, or lands, for my sake, and the gospel's,

30 But he shall receive an HUNDRED FOLD NOW IN THIS TIME, houses, and brethren, and sisters, and mothers, and children, and lands, with persecutions; and in the world to come eternal life.

So, helping or giving to the poor does not make you poor. Rather, it makes you rich so you can have much more to give.

But biblical giving is not limited to giving to the poor. There are other kinds of giving that they must be taught to give also.

1. Giving of firstfruit is an eternal principle that brings God's blessings.
2. Tithing is also an eternal principle.
3. Ministering to servants of God is also commanded.
4. Giving to support the gospel work is also very important.

God is not against wealth but he is against those who prize their wealth above the things of the kingdom.

He made Abraham rich, he made King Solomon the richest king of his days. He is still the same God. But be rich to the point where you can put smiles on the faces of the needy.

This is my point. The love offering you are emphasizing is just one aspect of giving. We should be all round givers.
Re: Looking For A Church Not After Money by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:55am On Feb 10, 2023
Ken4Christ:

1. Giving of firstfruit is an eternal principle that brings God's blessings.
2. Tithing is also an eternal principle.
3. Ministering to servants of God is also commanded.
4. Giving to support the gospel work is also very important.

OOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLEEEEEEEE! cheesy

Re: Looking For A Church Not After Money by gohf: 8:20am On Feb 10, 2023
MightySparrow:



You are not getting it. The OP says they don't give offerings at all. That is a lie. So they don't use any instruments, no welfare, no accommodation, no publicity including data to access Nairaland.
That is a lie.

That is not a Bible believing church. Even Jesus saw a widow giving her last as offering, rather than returning the money, she was commended for her faith in God.



So, Sir, what the ministry is denying in the beginning will be introduced later.

That is hypocrisy.

We are about unity and love, freely we are given freely we give. Only love offerings given freely will be received


are you not lying and bearing false witness

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Re: Looking For A Church Not After Money by gohf: 8:54am On Feb 10, 2023
Ken4Christ:


When Jesus told the rich young man to sell all that he had and give to the poor, he was actually teaching him the way to true and lasting prosperity. When the man left in sadness, he unveiled to his disciples what happens to those who give up anything for the sake of his kingdom. He said that they will receive them all back in this world a hundred fold increase.

Read Mark 10:29-30.

29 And Jesus answered and said, Verily I say unto you, There is no man that hath left house, or brethren, or sisters, or father, or mother, or wife, or children, or lands, for my sake, and the gospel's,

30 But he shall receive an HUNDRED FOLD NOW IN THIS TIME, houses, and brethren, and sisters, and mothers, and children, and lands, with persecutions; and in the world to come eternal life.

So, helping or giving to the poor does not make you poor. Rather, it makes you rich so you can have much more to give.

But biblical giving is not limited to giving to the poor. There are other kinds of giving that they must be taught to give also.

1. Giving of firstfruit is an eternal principle that brings God's blessings.
2. Tithing is also an eternal principle.
3. Ministering to servants of God is also commanded.
4. Giving to support the gospel work is also very important.

God is not against wealth but he is against those who prize their wealth above the things of the kingdom.

He made Abraham rich, he made King Solomon the richest king of his days. He is still the same God. But be rich to the point where you can put smiles on the faces of the needy.

This is my point. The love offering you are emphasizing is just one aspect of giving. We should be all round givers.


Luke.16.13 - No servant can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.
Luke.16.14 - And the Pharisees also, who were covetous and loved money, heard all these things: and they derided him.

I asked you "How did you come about "raising a poor congregation" from that what you read?" you did not answer meaning you were lying against the post and bearing false witness, now can a selfish liar bear witness to the truth? NO


I asked you "where did God ordain you people to be rich?" You also had no answer but you also quoted Mark 10:29-30 anyway read carefully listen to your quote for these men didn't become rich but gain a new family of believers who shared all they had together lands, houses etc, plus persecution but none of the things they received did they keep for themselves they still shared it with those who did not have.

Did the OP say giving makes people poor, or is your love for money making you see things that are not written nor said.

I said love offering because that is what Jesus taught and that is what the church in scripture practiced. Others can collect whatever they want that is their business, if Moses could tell the people to stop giving when they had enough for the work, Elisha could refuse gifts from the ex-leper. Doesn't a church have the right to obey God and collect only love offering and put no other burden on the people. For God loves a cheerful giver. The Abraham you mentioned rejected the wealth of nations, left his homelands, houses and all and did he build a house nor buy land except what he used as a burial site, yet what did God reward him with, I am your shield and a promise for his generations to come.

Solomon who had great wealth, what did he do with it, he still burdened the people, married hundred of women, built more shrines than Jezebel.

Of course God gives wealth, would you not have mentioned Job, or David but neither men chased after money nor riches and they gave, to God, to the people.

You call tithing eternal yet the temple and levities and priesthood lies in ruins replaced by Christ the high priest. You speak of firstfruit an offering supposed to honor God for his blessings not for a blessing.

You are treating God like a businessman, the same God kind enough to feed the sparrows and the ungrateful.

Do you not treat God like a tyrant who wishes to use a wipe and force people to give.

The window who gave her all, did she give it because she wanted more? Did she even get more.

Of all the greedy people in Israel giving offering why did God send Elijah to a window in sidon. Who because of her humility to obey watched as God multipled her little not after giving but while she prepared it. The same God multipled the oil not because she gave a special seed to Elisha. God bless Elisha.

Did the five loaves not multiple, was a promise given to the boy who gave the five loaves of bread.

God will always bless those who give, and he will bless those willing to give as long as their sacrifices are not from a wicked and selfish heart and are like the blood of swine before him.

It is sad that you think 10% compares to the 100% they gave in the early church. when peter would reject gifts for the laying of hands upon Simon, when we have ministers now who would collect it and anoint you with oil

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Re: Looking For A Church Not After Money by MightySparrow: 12:52pm On Feb 10, 2023
gohf:


are you not lying and bearing false witness






No. The way you opened the Thread is the problem. Most big churches today start as fellowships in someone's sitting room. Imagine if Catholic, Anglican, RCCG, LFC don't take offerings and tithes. How will they cope with their workers?

Just invite us to your fellowship. If I ever come there or any other fellowship and offerings are forbidden, I will never go back again.

I see giving as a source of blessings from God.
My mentality though.
Cheers!
Re: Looking For A Church Not After Money by Ken4Christ: 3:01pm On Feb 10, 2023
gohf:


Luke.16.13 - No servant can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.
Luke.16.14 - And the Pharisees also, who were covetous and loved money, heard all these things: and they derided him.

I asked you "How did you come about "raising a poor congregation" from that what you read?" you did not answer meaning you were lying against the post and bearing false witness, now can a selfish liar bear witness to the truth? NO


I asked you "where did God ordain you people to be rich?" You also had no answer but you also quoted Mark 10:29-30 anyway read carefully listen to your quote for these men didn't become rich but gain a new family of believers who shared all they had together lands, houses etc, plus persecution but none of the things they received did they keep for themselves they still shared it with those who did not have.

Did the OP say giving makes people poor, or is your love for money making you see things that are not written nor said.

I said love offering because that is what Jesus taught and that is what the church in scripture practiced. Others can collect whatever they want that is their business, if Moses could tell the people to stop giving when they had enough for the work, Elisha could refuse gifts from the ex-leper. Doesn't a church have the right to obey God and collect only love offering and put no other burden on the people. For God loves a cheerful giver. The Abraham you mentioned rejected the wealth of nations, left his homelands, houses and all and did he build a house nor buy land except what he used as a burial site, yet what did God reward him with, I am your shield and a promise for his generations to come.

Solomon who had great wealth, what did he do with it, he still burdened the people, married hundred of women, built more shrines than Jezebel.

Of course God gives wealth, would you not have mentioned Job, or David but neither men chased after money nor riches and they gave, to God, to the people.

You call tithing eternal yet the temple and levities and priesthood lies in ruins replaced by Christ the high priest. You speak of firstfruit an offering supposed to honor God for his blessings not for a blessing.

You are treating God like a businessman, the same God kind enough to feed the sparrows and the ungrateful.

Do you not treat God like a tyrant who wishes to use a wipe and force people to give.

The window who gave her all, did she give it because she wanted more? Did she even get more.

Of all the greedy people in Israel giving offering why did God send Elijah to a window in sidon. Who because of her humility to obey watched as God multipled her little not after giving but while she prepared it. The same God multipled the oil not because she gave a special seed to Elisha. God bless Elisha.

Did the five loaves not multiple, was a promise given to the boy who gave the five loaves of bread.

God will always bless those who give, and he will bless those willing to give as long as their sacrifices are not from a wicked and selfish heart and are like the blood of swine before him.

It is sad that you think 10% compares to the 100% they gave in the early church. when peter would reject gifts for the laying of hands upon Simon, when we have ministers now who would collect it and anoint you with oil

You post is pointless. Please come out clearer.
Re: Looking For A Church Not After Money by gohf: 4:32pm On Feb 10, 2023
Ken4Christ:


You post is pointless. Please come out clearer.
there's a reason Jesus said he who has ears let him hear. He who has understanding let him perceive and see what the spirit is saying.

Obviously you are the hard ground that can't accept the seeds of God's word throw at you. Seeing as the god of this world has blinded you from seeing the truth even if it was placed right in front of you

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