Roma boss Jose Mourinho says "history doesn't win matches" but something has to give in Wednesday's Europa League final against Sevilla.

Sevilla, record six-time winners, have never lost a Europa League final, while Mourinho has won all five European finals he has ever been involved in.



"You look at Sevilla and you say 'Sevilla wins every final'," Mourinho told Uefa.com.

"I don't like superstition. It's a new final. It's new history."

The winners of the final at Budapest's Puskas Arena will play in next season's Champions League - their only hope of doing so. Neither team can finish in the top four of their league, while Sevilla - 11th in La Liga - could miss out on Europe entirely.

Sevilla, who won the 2006, 2007, 2014, 2015, 2016 and 2020 finals, were in relegation trouble until they appointed Jose Luis Mendilibar in March.

The much-travelled 62-year-old has never won a major trophy - while Mourinho, 60, has won the Champions League with Porto and Inter Milan, league titles and cups in Portugal, England, Italy and Spain, the Uefa Cup/Europa League with Porto and Manchester United, and last season's Europa Conference League with Roma.

"Do I know that I could become the first coach to win this competition with three teams? I really don't care," said Mourinho. "I think of the happiness that we can give to these people [fans].

"To be in this final is something that nobody would have expected at the beginning of the season when you see the incredible, incredible quality of the teams in the Europa League. Barcelona and Arsenal were in this competition and they were kicked out very, very early.

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History will be made.

Play and win that's all

they fit don cut my light because of useless co-tenant that refused to pay ontop od their big guy, where i see fuel buy kwanu

May the Special One win.

We are all Mourinho today .... Aren't we?

Even we the uefalona haters

raumdeuter:
I am no expert on anything but I am glad to
help anyone I can. I have owned a couple of trucks. The first one
was a new truck and 6-year-old reefer that I purchased at 22 and
clueless. That one did not turn out well. Later I bought a worn out
truck and babied it until I could overhaul the engine. I did well
with that

I'll attach the spreadsheets. You can use them to calculate your cost
of operation in CPM (Cents Per Mile). You need to figure out what
equipment you would use, wages and other expenses. You can then plug
in the revenue offered from various companies or brokers and check the
profitability. IMHO, I would not own a truck unless I was involved in
the day-to-day operation. I think that would be a bad idea. More
fail than succeed, mostly because they operate like truck drivers and
not businessmen. I would not trust a company to run my truck for me.
Most are greedy and they only look out for themselves.

I have worked in the building trades and rental property for close to
20 years now. With the economy so bad and my children grown I am
looking at getting back into trucking. For the past 2+ years I have
been working on a broadband project and was awarded nearly a million
dollars of ARRA stimulus funding on August 2010. I am still pouring
through government red tape and jumping through hoops to receive these
funds. This project and the waiting have left me broke and not too
hopeful of a positive outcome. I have been looking at going to work
in the North Dakota oilfields. A driver can make from $80,000 -
$140,000 a year depending on the job, company, home time and
experience.

I have tried to purchase another truck but I lack the capital
necessary to make this happen. I have been researching the trucking
industry for several months now as a fallback position if this
broadband project fails. In doing this I have looked at various
opportunities in the trucking industry. I have looked at several dump
truck and oilfield opportunities.

I’ll share my thoughts on several possible trucking industry
opportunities. These are OTR opportunities. A smart operator in the
right location can run more of a regional operation and make as much
as someone running coast-to-coast. Dry Vans pay the least of the
three main operations. Flatbeds and Reefers both pay more. Everybody
needs food so reefers are a sure bet. However the rates fluctuate and
the loading/unloading schedules and waits are ugly. They always want
the load yesterday and there is an inherent risk of losing the product
if the reefer unit breaks down. Dry van is probably the most stable
and in demand as well as simple and easy. You still lose some time on
loading/unloading but appointment times aren’t in the middle of the
night or wee hours of the morning. Flatbeds offer the most pleasant
experience with daytime unloading/loading and little or no waiting.
They are much more affected by downturns in the economy though. Many
of the loads are building materials or construction equipment so the
economy has a strong hold on this type of operation.

First and worst is the lease/purchase aka the fleece/purchase. This
is where the company leases a truck to a driver for a high weekly
payment. Most exercise complete control over the equipment. On weeks
with breakdown or home time you get a bill instead of a paycheck.
Many of these collect far more than the truck is worth and several
don’t ever allow you to ever own the truck. I share this because I
want you to understand how greedy the companies are.

Next we have the typical lease situation. You purchase a truck and
lease it to a company. You have mileage and percentage leases. Most
companies only offer mileage leases. The mileage pay is about what I
ran for in the nineties. The FSC (Fuel Service Charge) they pay
covers the difference in fuel cost today compared to then. Still
equipment is much more expensive now than then. The percentage lease
offers a better opportunity to earn but most are afraid of it because
it doesn’t cover deadhead (empty miles). The truck driver mentality
is if I get paid for all miles and keep the wheels turning, I’ll do
all right. With todays pay rates you will run yourself and your
equipment into the ground doing this for nothing more than a moderate
living. Mileage leases pay (FSC included) about 1.25 – 1.40 CPM.
Percentage leases pay about 1.35 – 1.80 CPM.

Lease terms vary greatly. Some furnish trailers and some charge a
weekly trailer rent. Some pay one percentage without a trailer and a
higher percentage with a trailer. Some furnish base plates (truck
license plate) free of charge and some furnish them and deduct the
cost weekly over 15 – 25 weeks. Some pay tolls but most don’t.
Running the Northeast you can spend close to $100 in a day on tolls.
They are all required to carry liability and cargo insurance. A few
of the crooks will try to recover some of this cost too. Many to most
will make you escrow $500 - $1500 for insurance deductibles in case of
an accident. You will need bobtail or unladen liability,
comprehensive and collision in addition to their insurance. Some
offer good deals and sometimes you need to get it on your own
somewhere else. In addition to these standard items many companies
will nickel and dime you to death with various fees. Sometimes you
can make more with your own trailer. If the company has lots of drop
and hook freight, your own trailer is more of a burden.

Finally we get to the last OTR opportunity that has more earning
potential and more risk. This is where you become a carrier or
trucking company. You get your own authority and do your own
recordkeeping and reports. This is not for truck drivers. This is
for businessmen who drive a truck. Here you can see rates from 1.50
CPM to 3.00 CPM and even more on shorter runs. If you know the
trucking industry, have good business skills and are a fair negotiator
you can do well here. There is a lot more work, many varied tasks and
more risk but the rewards are worthwhile. While you are averaging
1.30 – 1.70 with the above options you can average 1.80 – 2.20 with
this method. While you have more work, you can run fewer miles, which
allows time to do the other tasks.

Now I’ll sum up the average earnings potential, from my point of view,
for the OTR opportunities. An OTR driver can earn $25,000 - $55,000.
A lease/purchase operator can make about the same if he stays on the
road, doesn’t anger management and has a little luck. Most don’t do
as well as a company driver and are nothing more than a glorified
company driver. A lease operator who acquired his truck from an
independent source will make $55,000 - $75,000 before taxes. This
means you could net $45,000 - $65,000. With your authority a smart
operator could net after taxes from $70,000 – $120,000. There’s no
way you could do this unless you managed the operation though.

As you can see this doesn’t leave much for profit if you put a driver
on the truck. It is a balancing act. If you take more profit and pay
the driver less, you will have a hard time keeping drivers and more
repair bills due to poor drivers. If you lease a truck to a company
on percentage, get a good deal, get a good driver and can keep him,
spend a minimal amount of time managing the operation and have some
good fortune you could expect to make $5,000 - $15,000 annually. If
you wanted to take on the risk, responsibility and workload of being a
carrier you would have the potential to double that. It would take
several hours a day to do this. A couple of weeks looking for a
driver after your truck breaks down and is in the shop for a week or
two and the year’s profit goes down drastically.

IMHO there is only one way I would do this. I would do it with my own
authority and would establish one truck. When it was profitable I
would expand. When I had about five trucks I would quit driving and
run them full time.

Now let’s explore some more lucrative opportunities such as dump or
oilfield operations. What makes these more lucrative IMHO is the
earning potential and the closer proximity of the operation. Both pay
by the hour although some dump work pays by the ton. Both offer
long-term contracts. Usually they want at least a 6-day a week, 12
hour a day commitment. Oilfield contracts often call for 24/7, 365
day operation. In either operation you seldom venture further than
100 miles and often much less. This allows you to run the operation
locally. You can use the same mechanic, parts store and such. You
can negotiate and better control costs. You can recover a broken
piece of equipment yourself instead of paying high towing and be at
the mercy of an out of town repair shop. As for which one is better
and why, I quite honestly can’t answer that as I lack first-hand
experience in either operation. The oilfield operations are booming
and pay up to 20% more than a dump operation.

Here is a brief summary of what I think is possible on both. I
believe on the dump truck contract that you could pay above average
wages and net as much as $40,000 - $60,000 per truck. This was on a
DOT contract hauling sand one direction and salt back. This run is in
Indiana and Michigan and is 150 miles one way. I believe a truck
running water in the North Dakota oilfield could net as much as
$70,000 - $100,000+.

I have spent more time looking at the oilfield opportunities. I would
need to go up and work first to gain experience. I plan to do that by
the end of the year. My plan is to go work this for a year or so and
I should be able to save enough to buy a truck and start an operation.
If I had someone that wanted to invest and share in the profits, I
could probably start after three months of learning and making
contacts.

I believe you could start with one truck but two would be much better.
I have scratched this out on paper and believe you could build a
multi-million dollar business (gross) in five years. In three years
you could have six trucks running and by the fifth year you would be
paying cash for new or replacement equipment. You could finance your
equipment for three and four years but payoff everything over two.
The investor could have his money back with interest in two years.
Then he could have an amount equal to the investment capital each year
for the next three years. After that he would be paid from profits
based on a percentage of ownership. This should be more than double
what he received in the three prior years. I believe an investor; my
son and myself could retire off this idea.

The hard part of this plan is housing. To make this work land and
modular man-camp housing would have to be purchased. By doing this
you could capitalize the large sum that you would be spending for
housing. My truck budget calculates $4 per hour for housing. This
would add to the company’s net worth too. Right now three bedroom
modular homes are renting around $5,000 per month with a year lease.
Some want the year up front but all want first and last month and one
month deposit to move in. Land is from $10,000 to $50,000 per acre in
the area and two counties have moratoriums on man camp construction.
You can still purchase nearby land in Eastern Montana for $1,000 per
acre. You would have to use a company van for drivers to travel at
shift changes. The amount of money that would be spent on housing
would allow you to put together assets of $500,000 in land and modular
housing. It would also pay for transportation, maintenance and
housekeeping (to maintain the quality of the modular housing) and
eventually turn a small profit. By the way I have a Real Estate and
HVAC Journeyman license and enough hours in Electrical and Plumbing to
test for a Journeyman license.

If I were a rich man I would get into housing and forget trucking.
With modular housing you could just sell it off if/when the boom ends.
With six trucks and 16 full-time drivers you would spend from
$180,000 to put them up two to a bedroom to $230,000 to put them up
with a bedroom per man if you could find them. Even if you owned
travel trailers and put them two to a travel trailer it would cost
about $77,000 a year in lot rent with a initial investment of $60,000
- $90,000 for travel trailers.

Now you have a general overview of trucking and some idea whether you
really want to venture into your original idea. I don’t know how much
you planned on investing or have to invest. In addition, I don’t know
if this idea appeals to you. Let me know what your thoughts are and
if you are interested. Also let me know what kind of capital you
might have to invest if the idea was sound enough. If it looks like
we might do something together, I can put together a business plan and
pro forma financial projections for you to examine.

Omo na only u use one page oo

Damnnn niggar
Sevilla straight winning


All my hard earned money on that game

Nice

K

Baba have settled for less already playing competition no one care about . When he was top of the league he laughed people playing it .

Roma all 3 way
3 odd in d bag
Morinho no dey miss final

Wow

if u like go put ur school fees and salary ontop any history or history...nothing is sure in football.
just enjoy it. Dont let betting ruin you.
Both teams/players will get money whether win/lose today...but you?? nothing

Sevilla remains the favorite for the title... Thing wan be like say na their birthright!

Even ETH must be wondering how that fixture slipped out of his fingers!

Would have been great to see Mourinho go against the very club he won the trophy with!


Rooting for The Special One sha!

Emefiele governor of Central Bank have been sacked..

Details later....

Roma can only win if the score first. coz i know the will pack bus. Mourinho and finals na 5 and 6

We are all Sevilla tonight. Sorry special one

slawomir:
Damnnn niggar
Sevilla straight winning


All my hard earned money on that game

That's one risky bet to make...!

Mourinho and European final! How many has he lost?!! Lol!

Penalty shoot out under 2.5 + draw

D only white that can fight for black
D only white that promotes d black race

whippersnapper:
Roma can only win if the score first. coz i know the will pack bus. Mourinho and finals na 5 and 6

Liverpool scored first and what happened?

One thing is certain, Sevilla must get red card. May the best defense win 😂

raumdeuter:
I am no expert on anything but I am glad to
help anyone I can. I have owned a couple of trucks. The first one
was a new truck and 6-year-old reefer that I purchased at 22 and
clueless. That one did not turn out well. Later I bought a worn out
truck and babied it until I could overhaul the engine. I did well
with that one.

I'll attach the spreadsheets. You can use them to calculate your cost
of operation in CPM (Cents Per Mile). You need to figure out what
equipment you would use, wages and other expenses. You can then plug
in the revenue offered from various companies or brokers and check the
profitability. IMHO, I would not own a truck unless I was involved in
the day-to-day operation. I think that would be a bad idea. More
fail than succeed, mostly because they operate like truck drivers and
not businessmen. I would not trust a company to run my truck for me.
Most are greedy and they only look out for themselves.

I have worked in the building trades and rental property for close to
20 years now. With the economy so bad and my children grown I am
looking at getting back into trucking. For the past 2+ years I have
been working on a broadband project and was awarded nearly a million
dollars of ARRA stimulus funding on August 2010. I am still pouring
through government red tape and jumping through hoops to receive these
funds. This project and the waiting have left me broke and not too
hopeful of a positive outcome. I have been looking at going to work
in the North Dakota oilfields. A driver can make from $80,000 -
$140,000 a year depending on the job, company, home time and
experience.

I have tried to purchase another truck but I lack the capital
necessary to make this happen. I have been researching the trucking
industry for several months now as a fallback position if this
broadband project fails. In doing this I have looked at various
opportunities in the trucking industry. I have looked at several dump
truck and oilfield opportunities.

I’ll share my thoughts on several possible trucking industry
opportunities. These are OTR opportunities. A smart operator in the
right location can run more of a regional operation and make as much
as someone running coast-to-coast. Dry Vans pay the least of the
three main operations. Flatbeds and Reefers both pay more. Everybody
needs food so reefers are a sure bet. However the rates fluctuate and
the loading/unloading schedules and waits are ugly. They always want
the load yesterday and there is an inherent risk of losing the product
if the reefer unit breaks down. Dry van is probably the most stable
and in demand as well as simple and easy. You still lose some time on
loading/unloading but appointment times aren’t in the middle of the
night or wee hours of the morning. Flatbeds offer the most pleasant
experience with daytime unloading/loading and little or no waiting.
They are much more affected by downturns in the economy though. Many
of the loads are building materials or construction equipment so the
economy has a strong hold on this type of operation.

First and worst is the lease/purchase aka the fleece/purchase. This
is where the company leases a truck to a driver for a high weekly
payment. Most exercise complete control over the equipment. On weeks
with breakdown or home time you get a bill instead of a paycheck.
Many of these collect far more than the truck is worth and several
don’t ever allow you to ever own the truck. I share this because I
want you to understand how greedy the companies are.

Next we have the typical lease situation. You purchase a truck and
lease it to a company. You have mileage and percentage leases. Most
companies only offer mileage leases. The mileage pay is about what I
ran for in the nineties. The FSC (Fuel Service Charge) they pay
covers the difference in fuel cost today compared to then. Still
equipment is much more expensive now than then. The percentage lease
offers a better opportunity to earn but most are afraid of it because
it doesn’t cover deadhead (empty miles). The truck driver mentality
is if I get paid for all miles and keep the wheels turning, I’ll do
all right. With todays pay rates you will run yourself and your
equipment into the ground doing this for nothing more than a moderate
living. Mileage leases pay (FSC included) about 1.25 – 1.40 CPM.
Percentage leases pay about 1.35 – 1.80 CPM.

Lease terms vary greatly. Some furnish trailers and some charge a
weekly trailer rent. Some pay one percentage without a trailer and a
higher percentage with a trailer. Some furnish base plates (truck
license plate) free of charge and some furnish them and deduct the
cost weekly over 15 – 25 weeks. Some pay tolls but most don’t.
Running the Northeast you can spend close to $100 in a day on tolls.
They are all required to carry liability and cargo insurance. A few
of the crooks will try to recover some of this cost too. Many to most
will make you escrow $500 - $1500 for insurance deductibles in case of
an accident. You will need bobtail or unladen liability,
comprehensive and collision in addition to their insurance. Some
offer good deals and sometimes you need to get it on your own
somewhere else. In addition to these standard items many companies
will nickel and dime you to death with various fees. Sometimes you
can make more with your own trailer. If the company has lots of drop
and hook freight, your own trailer is more of a burden.

Finally we get to the last OTR opportunity that has more earning
potential and more risk. This is where you become a carrier or
trucking company. You get your own authority and do your own
recordkeeping and reports. This is not for truck drivers. This is
for businessmen who drive a truck. Here you can see rates from 1.50
CPM to 3.00 CPM and even more on shorter runs. If you know the
trucking industry, have good business skills and are a fair negotiator
you can do well here. There is a lot more work, many varied tasks and
more risk but the rewards are worthwhile. While you are averaging
1.30 – 1.70 with the above options you can average 1.80 – 2.20 with
this method. While you have more work, you can run fewer miles, which
allows time to do the other tasks.

Now I’ll sum up the average earnings potential, from my point of view,
for the OTR opportunities. An OTR driver can earn $25,000 - $55,000.
A lease/purchase operator can make about the same if he stays on the
road, doesn’t anger management and has a little luck. Most don’t do
as well as a company driver and are nothing more than a glorified
company driver. A lease operator who acquired his truck from an
independent source will make $55,000 - $75,000 before taxes. This
means you could net $45,000 - $65,000. With your authority a smart
operator could net after taxes from $70,000 – $120,000. There’s no
way you could do this unless you managed the operation though.

As you can see this doesn’t leave much for profit if you put a driver
on the truck. It is a balancing act. If you take more profit and pay
the driver less, you will have a hard time keeping drivers and more
repair bills due to poor drivers. If you lease a truck to a company
on percentage, get a good deal, get a good driver and can keep him,
spend a minimal amount of time managing the operation and have some
good fortune you could expect to make $5,000 - $15,000 annually. If
you wanted to take on the risk, responsibility and workload of being a
carrier you would have the potential to double that. It would take
several hours a day to do this. A couple of weeks looking for a
driver after your truck breaks down and is in the shop for a week or
two and the year’s profit goes down drastically.

IMHO there is only one way I would do this. I would do it with my own
authority and would establish one truck. When it was profitable I
would expand. When I had about five trucks I would quit driving and
run them full time.

Now let’s explore some more lucrative opportunities such as dump or
oilfield operations. What makes these more lucrative IMHO is the
earning potential and the closer proximity of the operation. Both pay
by the hour although some dump work pays by the ton. Both offer
long-term contracts. Usually they want at least a 6-day a week, 12
hour a day commitment. Oilfield contracts often call for 24/7, 365
day operation. In either operation you seldom venture further than
100 miles and often much less. This allows you to run the operation
locally. You can use the same mechanic, parts store and such. You
can negotiate and better control costs. You can recover a broken
piece of equipment yourself instead of paying high towing and be at
the mercy of an out of town repair shop. As for which one is better
and why, I quite honestly can’t answer that as I lack first-hand
experience in either operation. The oilfield operations are booming
and pay up to 20% more than a dump operation.

Here is a brief summary of what I think is possible on both. I
believe on the dump truck contract that you could pay above average
wages and net as much as $40,000 - $60,000 per truck. This was on a
DOT contract hauling sand one direction and salt back. This run is in
Indiana and Michigan and is 150 miles one way. I believe a truck
running water in the North Dakota oilfield could net as much as
$70,000 - $100,000+.

I have spent more time looking at the oilfield opportunities. I would
need to go up and work first to gain experience. I plan to do that by
the end of the year. My plan is to go work this for a year or so and
I should be able to save enough to buy a truck and start an operation.
If I had someone that wanted to invest and share in the profits, I
could probably start after three months of learning and making
contacts.

I believe you could start with one truck but two would be much better.
I have scratched this out on paper and believe you could build a
multi-million dollar business (gross) in five years. In three years
you could have six trucks running and by the fifth year you would be
paying cash for new or replacement equipment. You could finance your
equipment for three and four years but payoff everything over two.
The investor could have his money back with interest in two years.
Then he could have an amount equal to the investment capital each year
for the next three years. After that he would be paid from profits
based on a percentage of ownership. This should be more than double
what he received in the three prior years. I believe an investor; my
son and myself could retire off this idea.

The hard part of this plan is housing. To make this work land and
modular man-camp housing would have to be purchased. By doing this
you could capitalize the large sum that you would be spending for
housing. My truck budget calculates $4 per hour for housing. This
would add to the company’s net worth too. Right now three bedroom
modular homes are renting around $5,000 per month with a year lease.
Some want the year up front but all want first and last month and one
month deposit to move in. Land is from $10,000 to $50,000 per acre in
the area and two counties have moratoriums on man camp construction.
You can still purchase nearby land in Eastern Montana for $1,000 per
acre. You would have to use a company van for drivers to travel at
shift changes. The amount of money that would be spent on housing
would allow you to put together assets of $500,000 in land and modular
housing. It would also pay for transportation, maintenance and
housekeeping (to maintain the quality of the modular housing) and
eventually turn a small profit. By the way I have a Real Estate and
HVAC Journeyman license and enough hours in Electrical and Plumbing to
test for a Journeyman license.

If I were a rich man I would get into housing and forget trucking.
With modular housing you could just sell it off if/when the boom ends.
With six trucks and 16 full-time drivers you would spend from
$180,000 to put them up two to a bedroom to $230,000 to put them up
with a bedroom per man if you could find them. Even if you owned
travel trailers and put them two to a travel trailer it would cost
about $77,000 a year in lot rent with a initial investment of $60,000
- $90,000 for travel trailers.

Now you have a general overview of trucking and some idea whether you
really want to venture into your original idea. I don’t know how much
you planned on investing or have to invest. In addition, I don’t know
if this idea appeals to you. Let me know what your thoughts are and
if you are interested. Also let me know what kind of capital you
might have to invest if the idea was sound enough. If it looks like
we might do something together, I can put together a business plan and
pro forma financial projections for you to examine.

🙄🙄

Roma win/draw & under 2.5

raumdeuter:
I am no expert on anything but I am glad to
help anyone I can. I have owned a couple of trucks. The first one
was a new truck and 6-year-old reefer that I purchased at 22 and
clueless. That one did not turn out well. Later I bought a worn out
truck and babied it until I could overhaul the engine. I did well
with that one.

I'll attach the spreadsheets. You can use them to calculate your cost
of operation in CPM (Cents Per Mile). You need to figure out what
equipment you would use, wages and other expenses. You can then plug
in the revenue offered from various companies or brokers and check the
profitability. IMHO, I would not own a truck unless I was involved in
the day-to-day operation. I think that would be a bad idea. More
fail than succeed, mostly because they operate like truck drivers and
not businessmen. I would not trust a company to run my truck for me.
Most are greedy and they only look out for themselves.

I have worked in the building trades and rental property for close to
20 years now. With the economy so bad and my children grown I am
looking at getting back into trucking. For the past 2+ years I have
been working on a broadband project and was awarded nearly a million
dollars of ARRA stimulus funding on August 2010. I am still pouring
through government red tape and jumping through hoops to receive these
funds. This project and the waiting have left me broke and not too
hopeful of a positive outcome. I have been looking at going to work
in the North Dakota oilfields. A driver can make from $80,000 -
$140,000 a year depending on the job, company, home time and
experience.

I have tried to purchase another truck but I lack the capital
necessary to make this happen. I have been researching the trucking
industry for several months now as a fallback position if this
broadband project fails. In doing this I have looked at various
opportunities in the trucking industry. I have looked at several dump
truck and oilfield opportunities.

I’ll share my thoughts on several possible trucking industry
opportunities. These are OTR opportunities. A smart operator in the
right location can run more of a regional operation and make as much
as someone running coast-to-coast. Dry Vans pay the least of the
three main operations. Flatbeds and Reefers both pay more. Everybody
needs food so reefers are a sure bet. However the rates fluctuate and
the loading/unloading schedules and waits are ugly. They always want
the load yesterday and there is an inherent risk of losing the product
if the reefer unit breaks down. Dry van is probably the most stable
and in demand as well as simple and easy. You still lose some time on
loading/unloading but appointment times aren’t in the middle of the
night or wee hours of the morning. Flatbeds offer the most pleasant
experience with daytime unloading/loading and little or no waiting.
They are much more affected by downturns in the economy though. Many
of the loads are building materials or construction equipment so the
economy has a strong hold on this type of operation.

First and worst is the lease/purchase aka the fleece/purchase. This
is where the company leases a truck to a driver for a high weekly
payment. Most exercise complete control over the equipment. On weeks
with breakdown or home time you get a bill instead of a paycheck.
Many of these collect far more than the truck is worth and several
don’t ever allow you to ever own the truck. I share this because I
want you to understand how greedy the companies are.

Next we have the typical lease situation. You purchase a truck and
lease it to a company. You have mileage and percentage leases. Most
companies only offer mileage leases. The mileage pay is about what I
ran for in the nineties. The FSC (Fuel Service Charge) they pay
covers the difference in fuel cost today compared to then. Still
equipment is much more expensive now than then. The percentage lease
offers a better opportunity to earn but most are afraid of it because
it doesn’t cover deadhead (empty miles). The truck driver mentality
is if I get paid for all miles and keep the wheels turning, I’ll do
all right. With todays pay rates you will run yourself and your
equipment into the ground doing this for nothing more than a moderate
living. Mileage leases pay (FSC included) about 1.25 – 1.40 CPM.
Percentage leases pay about 1.35 – 1.80 CPM.

Lease terms vary greatly. Some furnish trailers and some charge a
weekly trailer rent. Some pay one percentage without a trailer and a
higher percentage with a trailer. Some furnish base plates (truck
license plate) free of charge and some furnish them and deduct the
cost weekly over 15 – 25 weeks. Some pay tolls but most don’t.
Running the Northeast you can spend close to $100 in a day on tolls.
They are all required to carry liability and cargo insurance. A few
of the crooks will try to recover some of this cost too. Many to most
will make you escrow $500 - $1500 for insurance deductibles in case of
an accident. You will need bobtail or unladen liability,
comprehensive and collision in addition to their insurance. Some
offer good deals and sometimes you need to get it on your own
somewhere else. In addition to these standard items many companies
will nickel and dime you to death with various fees. Sometimes you
can make more with your own trailer. If the company has lots of drop
and hook freight, your own trailer is more of a burden.

Finally we get to the last OTR opportunity that has more earning
potential and more risk. This is where you become a carrier or
trucking company. You get your own authority and do your own
recordkeeping and reports. This is not for truck drivers. This is
for businessmen who drive a truck. Here you can see rates from 1.50
CPM to 3.00 CPM and even more on shorter runs. If you know the
trucking industry, have good business skills and are a fair negotiator
you can do well here. There is a lot more work, many varied tasks and
more risk but the rewards are worthwhile. While you are averaging
1.30 – 1.70 with the above options you can average 1.80 – 2.20 with
this method. While you have more work, you can run fewer miles, which
allows time to do the other tasks.

Now I’ll sum up the average earnings potential, from my point of view,
for the OTR opportunities. An OTR driver can earn $25,000 - $55,000.
A lease/purchase operator can make about the same if he stays on the
road, doesn’t anger management and has a little luck. Most don’t do
as well as a company driver and are nothing more than a glorified
company driver. A lease operator who acquired his truck from an
independent source will make $55,000 - $75,000 before taxes. This
means you could net $45,000 - $65,000. With your authority a smart
operator could net after taxes from $70,000 – $120,000. There’s no
way you could do this unless you managed the operation though.

As you can see this doesn’t leave much for profit if you put a driver
on the truck. It is a balancing act. If you take more profit and pay
the driver less, you will have a hard time keeping drivers and more
repair bills due to poor drivers. If you lease a truck to a company
on percentage, get a good deal, get a good driver and can keep him,
spend a minimal amount of time managing the operation and have some
good fortune you could expect to make $5,000 - $15,000 annually. If
you wanted to take on the risk, responsibility and workload of being a
carrier you would have the potential to double that. It would take
several hours a day to do this. A couple of weeks looking for a
driver after your truck breaks down and is in the shop for a week or
two and the year’s profit goes down drastically.

IMHO there is only one way I would do this. I would do it with my own
authority and would establish one truck. When it was profitable I
would expand. When I had about five trucks I would quit driving and
run them full time.

Now let’s explore some more lucrative opportunities such as dump or
oilfield operations. What makes these more lucrative IMHO is the
earning potential and the closer proximity of the operation. Both pay
by the hour although some dump work pays by the ton. Both offer
long-term contracts. Usually they want at least a 6-day a week, 12
hour a day commitment. Oilfield contracts often call for 24/7, 365
day operation. In either operation you seldom venture further than
100 miles and often much less. This allows you to run the operation
locally. You can use the same mechanic, parts store and such. You
can negotiate and better control costs. You can recover a broken
piece of equipment yourself instead of paying high towing and be at
the mercy of an out of town repair shop. As for which one is better
and why, I quite honestly can’t answer that as I lack first-hand
experience in either operation. The oilfield operations are booming
and pay up to 20% more than a dump operation.

Here is a brief summary of what I think is possible on both. I
believe on the dump truck contract that you could pay above average
wages and net as much as $40,000 - $60,000 per truck. This was on a
DOT contract hauling sand one direction and salt back. This run is in
Indiana and Michigan and is 150 miles one way. I believe a truck
running water in the North Dakota oilfield could net as much as
$70,000 - $100,000+.

I have spent more time looking at the oilfield opportunities. I would
need to go up and work first to gain experience. I plan to do that by
the end of the year. My plan is to go work this for a year or so and
I should be able to save enough to buy a truck and start an operation.
If I had someone that wanted to invest and share in the profits, I
could probably start after three months of learning and making
contacts.

I believe you could start with one truck but two would be much better.
I have scratched this out on paper and believe you could build a
multi-million dollar business (gross) in five years. In three years
you could have six trucks running and by the fifth year you would be
paying cash for new or replacement equipment. You could finance your
equipment for three and four years but payoff everything over two.
The investor could have his money back with interest in two years.
Then he could have an amount equal to the investment capital each year
for the next three years. After that he would be paid from profits
based on a percentage of ownership. This should be more than double
what he received in the three prior years. I believe an investor; my
son and myself could retire off this idea.

The hard part of this plan is housing. To make this work land and
modular man-camp housing would have to be purchased. By doing this
you could capitalize the large sum that you would be spending for
housing. My truck budget calculates $4 per hour for housing. This
would add to the company’s net worth too. Right now three bedroom
modular homes are renting around $5,000 per month with a year lease.
Some want the year up front but all want first and last month and one
month deposit to move in. Land is from $10,000 to $50,000 per acre in
the area and two counties have moratoriums on man camp construction.
You can still purchase nearby land in Eastern Montana for $1,000 per
acre. You would have to use a company van for drivers to travel at
shift changes. The amount of money that would be spent on housing
would allow you to put together assets of $500,000 in land and modular
housing. It would also pay for transportation, maintenance and
housekeeping (to maintain the quality of the modular housing) and
eventually turn a small profit. By the way I have a Real Estate and
HVAC Journeyman license and enough hours in Electrical and Plumbing to
test for a Journeyman license.

If I were a rich man I would get into housing and forget trucking.
With modular housing you could just sell it off if/when the boom ends.
With six trucks and 16 full-time drivers you would spend from
$180,000 to put them up two to a bedroom to $230,000 to put them up
with a bedroom per man if you could find them. Even if you owned
travel trailers and put them two to a travel trailer it would cost
about $77,000 a year in lot rent with a initial investment of $60,000
- $90,000 for travel trailers.

Now you have a general overview of trucking and some idea whether you
really want to venture into your original idea. I don’t know how much
you planned on investing or have to invest. In addition, I don’t know
if this idea appeals to you. Let me know what your thoughts are and
if you are interested. Also let me know what kind of capital you
might have to invest if the idea was sound enough. If it looks like
we might do something together, I can put together a business plan and
pro forma financial projections for you to examine.

Bulaba

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