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Check Out This Estate In Asaba by propsvilla1: 12:52pm On Aug 06, 2023
Re: Check Out This Estate In Asaba by spearman(m): 1:05pm On Aug 06, 2023
Global Developers from the land of the rising scorn are planning to invade Asaba.
Re: Check Out This Estate In Asaba by Stillkrug: 1:08pm On Aug 06, 2023
spearman:
Global Developers from the land of the rising scorn are planning to invade Asaba.

What a daft and product of daft sperm

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Re: Check Out This Estate In Asaba by spearman(m): 1:18pm On Aug 06, 2023
Stillkrug:

What a daft and product of daft sperm

Asaba Man Responds On Facebook To Asaba Is Igbo Claims

Asaba Inlaw: "In This Whole World You Couldn’t Find Anyone To Marry But An Igbo"

Short story: One of my earliest and most persistent memories is this - near my village, 1 kilometer from Asaba, was a camp where people lived.
Who are they I asked - “Wa bu Ndigbo” I was told. Translation: “They are Igbos”.
I was confused. Aren’t we Igbos, but I said nothing.
Another occasion I heard some commotion in the direction of the camp. Oh don’t be worried I was told. They are Igbos. Again so thought but we are igbos!


Fast forward 3 decades.
A friend of mine from Aba who married from Asaba, over a beer told me “I can’t get over Asaba people. During my native law, my wife’s people kept abusing her in the same language I spoke. They kept saying ‘so in this whole world, you couldn’t find anyone to marry but an Igbo?’”
These are true accounts.
People from my area… even the indigenes of ONITSHA (I’ve been told) consider themselves Not Igbo.
I grew up seeing my people refer to others as “Those Igbo people”.
I have just learnt that the phrase “Igbo enwere Eze” was coined by core Igbos to separate themselves from the Onitsha indigenes…
Following that logic, Asaba nwere eze .... kedụ ka ọ ga-esi bụrụ igbo?
ka anyi biri n’udo nwanne m nwoke
m zuru ikpe m

It’s not an issue to be swept under the carpet. We need to consider it seriously.

Just because everyone in America speaks English doesn’t change their ancestry (some are of German, Italian, Russian, African, Chinese ancestry...).
Ancestry can only be determined scientifically by DNA analysis. My sister discovered she has ancestors from Mali, Senega... of course!! The river Niger flows through those nations before it passes the shores of my village which sits on the West Bank of the Niger net Asaba.

Bottom line, you cannot teach a man how to write with his left hand in old age.
The real issue is why so many Igbo speaking people reject the idea they’re Igbo. (Like some Egyptians in an interview I watched - who can’t understand why they’re considered Africans at all!).
Let’s have an academic discussion why!
We may learn valuable lessons.
��‍♂️�
Good morning.
Re: Check Out This Estate In Asaba by successmatters(m): 1:19pm On Aug 06, 2023
spearman:
Global Developers from the land of the rising scorn are planning to invade Asaba.

Asaba is Yorubaland.

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Re: Check Out This Estate In Asaba by Sorrynovex: 1:20pm On Aug 06, 2023
spearman:
Global Developers from the land of the rising scorn are planning to invade Asaba.

My friend slam your head and eat gbegiri

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Re: Check Out This Estate In Asaba by successmatters(m): 1:21pm On Aug 06, 2023
spearman:


Asaba Man Responds On Facebook To Asaba Is Igbo Claims

Asaba Inlaw: "In This Whole World You Couldn’t Find Anyone To Marry But An Igbo"

Short story: One of my earliest and most persistent memories is this - near my village, 1 kilometer from Asaba, was a camp where people lived.
Who are they I asked - “Wa bu Ndigbo” I was told. Translation: “They are Igbos”.
I was confused. Aren’t we Igbos, but I said nothing.
Another occasion I heard some commotion in the direction of the camp. Oh don’t be worried I was told. They are Igbos. Again so thought but we are igbos!


Fast forward 3 decades.
A friend of mine from Aba who married from Asaba, over a beer told me “I can’t get over Asaba people. During my native law, my wife’s people kept abusing her in the same language I spoke. They kept saying ‘so in this whole world, you couldn’t find anyone to marry but an Igbo?’”
These are true accounts.
People from my area… even the indigenes of ONITSHA (I’ve been told) consider themselves Not Igbo.
I grew up seeing my people refer to others as “Those Igbo people”.
I have just learnt that the phrase “Igbo enwere Eze” was coined by core Igbos to separate themselves from the Onitsha indigenes…
Following that logic, Asaba nwere eze .... kedụ ka ọ ga-esi bụrụ igbo?
ka anyi biri n’udo nwanne m nwoke
m zuru ikpe m

It’s not an issue to be swept under the carpet. We need to consider it seriously.

Just because everyone in America speaks English doesn’t change their ancestry (some are of German, Italian, Russian, African, Chinese ancestry...).
Ancestry can only be determined scientifically by DNA analysis. My sister discovered she has ancestors from Mali, Senega... of course!! The river Niger flows through those nations before it passes the shores of my village which sits on the West Bank of the Niger net Asaba.

Bottom line, you cannot teach a man how to write with his left hand in old age.
The real issue is why so many Igbo speaking people reject the idea they’re Igbo. (Like some Egyptians in an interview I watched - who can’t understand why they’re considered Africans at all!).
Let’s have an academic discussion why!
We may learn valuable lessons.
��‍♂️�
Good morning.

Yes, Asaba has become yorubaland after they denied their language. The most popular language in Asaba is yoruba

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Re: Check Out This Estate In Asaba by Cantonese: 1:24pm On Aug 06, 2023
successmatters:


Yes, Asaba has become yorubaland after they denied their language. The most popular language in Asaba is yoruba

Do you know Asaba at all?
Re: Check Out This Estate In Asaba by Cantonese: 1:26pm On Aug 06, 2023
By the way Isele Azagba is not Asaba please.

It’s just like calling Ekpoma by the name Benin, because they are within close proximity. Or calling Shagamu as Ijebu Remo.

We must call all areas by their names for proper and easy identification. However you can say Isele Azagba is within the state capital territory. Even Okpanam, Okwe, Amakom, Ugbolu, etc, which are towns on their own are not called by the name Asaba.

Isele Azagba is fast developing because Okpanam, which is the town before Asaba on the road to Onitsha, has become very costly to purchase lands. Now Isele Azagba, affords the opportunity to purchase lands at much more cheaper prices and the same benefits are afforded just like Asaba.

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Re: Check Out This Estate In Asaba by successmatters(m): 1:26pm On Aug 06, 2023
Cantonese:


Do you know Asaba at all?

Don't worry, I know what am doing.
Re: Check Out This Estate In Asaba by Sorrynovex: 1:46pm On Aug 06, 2023
Cantonese:
By the way Isele Azagbaisnot Asaba please.

1m 100x100 go dey isele azaba ?
Re: Check Out This Estate In Asaba by Couldntfigurean: 2:19pm On Aug 06, 2023
Cantonese:
By the way Isele Azagba is not Asaba please.

It’s just like calling Ekpoma by the name Benin, because they are within close proximity. Or calling Shagamu as Ijebu Remo.

We must call all areas by their names for proper and easy identification. However you can say Isele Azagba is within the state capital territory. Even Okpanam, Okwe, Amakom, Ugbolu, etc, which are towns on their own are not called by the name Asaba.

Isele Azagba is fast developing because Okpanam, which is the town before Asaba on the road to Onitsha, has become very costly to purchase lands. Now Isele Azagba, affords the opportunity to purchase lands at much more cheaper prices and the same benefits are afforded just like Asaba.

And its not ending anytime soon,I myself spent my new year in isele Azagba/Ogwashi azagba,even them themselves say it’s Asaba when describing their towns to non indegenes
The guy I went to visit just told me he stays in Asaba but alas it was Azagba
Re: Check Out This Estate In Asaba by gidgiddy: 2:57pm On Aug 06, 2023
Couldntfigurean:
And its not ending anytime soon,I myself spent my new year in isele Azagba/Ogwashi azagba,even them themselves say it’s Asaba when describing their towns to non indegenes
The guy I went to visit just told me he stays in Asaba but alas it was Azagba

Some say that Isele Isele Asagba, Isele Mkpitime and Isele- Uku are all one
Re: Check Out This Estate In Asaba by gidgiddy: 3:03pm On Aug 06, 2023
spearman:


Asaba Man Responds On Facebook To Asaba Is Igbo Claims

Asaba Inlaw: "In This Whole World You Couldn’t Find Anyone To Marry But An Igbo"

Short story: One of my earliest and most persistent memories is this - near my village, 1 kilometer from Asaba, was a camp where people lived.
Who are they I asked - “Wa bu Ndigbo” I was told. Translation: “They are Igbos”.
I was confused. Aren’t we Igbos, but I said nothing.
Another occasion I heard some commotion in the direction of the camp. Oh don’t be worried I was told. They are Igbos. Again so thought but we are igbos!


Fast forward 3 decades.
A friend of mine from Aba who married from Asaba, over a beer told me “I can’t get over Asaba people. During my native law, my wife’s people kept abusing her in the same language I spoke. They kept saying ‘so in this whole world, you couldn’t find anyone to marry but an Igbo?’”
These are true accounts.
People from my area… even the indigenes of ONITSHA (I’ve been told) consider themselves Not Igbo.
I grew up seeing my people refer to others as “Those Igbo people”.
I have just learnt that the phrase “Igbo enwere Eze” was coined by core Igbos to separate themselves from the Onitsha indigenes…
Following that logic, Asaba nwere eze .... kedụ ka ọ ga-esi bụrụ igbo?
ka anyi biri n’udo nwanne m nwoke
m zuru ikpe m

It’s not an issue to be swept under the carpet. We need to consider it seriously.

Just because everyone in America speaks English doesn’t change their ancestry (some are of German, Italian, Russian, African, Chinese ancestry...).
Ancestry can only be determined scientifically by DNA analysis. My sister discovered she has ancestors from Mali, Senega... of course!! The river Niger flows through those nations before it passes the shores of my village which sits on the West Bank of the Niger net Asaba.

Bottom line, you cannot teach a man how to write with his left hand in old age.
The real issue is why so many Igbo speaking people reject the idea they’re Igbo. (Like some Egyptians in an interview I watched - who can’t understand why they’re considered Africans at all!).
Let’s have an academic discussion why!
We may learn valuable lessons.
��‍♂️�
Good morning.

Well if the 98 year old king of Asaba, Obi Chike Edozien, has told the whole world he os a proud Igbo man, tells you all you need to know about Asaba people

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Re: Check Out This Estate In Asaba by spearman(m): 3:05pm On Aug 06, 2023
gidgiddy:


Well if the 98 year old king of Asaba, Obi Chike Edozien, has told the whole world he os a proud Igbo man, tells you all you need to know about Asaba people

FAKE NEWS
EDO-ZIEN AS in EDO! EDO!! EDO!!!

OBI from Edo word Ovie (Son of)

Asagba is Ovie (Son of) Edo
Re: Check Out This Estate In Asaba by spearman(m): 3:11pm On Aug 06, 2023
gidgiddy:


Well if the 98 year old king of Asaba, Obi Chike Edozien, has told the whole world he os a proud Igbo man, tells you all you need to know about Asaba people

AN ADDRESS PRESENTED BY HIS ROYAL HIGHNESS
OSEMENE III, THE OBI OF ISSELES AND TRADITIONAL
HEAD OF EZECHIMA CLAN
TO
OMO N'OBA N'EDO UKU AKPOLOKPOLO,
THE OBA OF BENIN,
OMO N'OBA, OBA EREDIAUWA.

ON THE OCCASION OF HIS ROYAL VISIT TO ISSELE-UKU
ON THE 15TH DAY OF MARCH, 1982.

YOUR ROYAL HIGHNESS, UKU AKPOLOKPOLO
THE OBA OF BENIN,
MY LORDS, SPIRITUAL AND TEMPORAL, RESPECTED NATURAL RULERS,
CHIEFS,SERVICE CHIEFS, DISTINGUISHED LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.


OBA GHATO OKPERE, ISE

isi Eze Ise! Nenu, Ise!

I, on behalf of myself, Chiefs, Issele Community and the Ezechima Clan, have the greatest joy to welcome you to this history town of Issele-Uku which, right from the 13th century, has had connection and deep-rooted association with Benin. In fact, Esigie, in giving the Royal Bronze Mask to Obi Oligbo on enthronement at Benin City in the early 16th century, re-emp that Issele was on the Eastern extremities of the Benin monarch This was testified to by His Royal Highness, Uku Akpolokpolo Akenzua II, of blessed memory on 11th February, 1976, Nigerian observer, front page, No. 2452, Monday, November 1976, to quote the OBA, "The bronze mask was given out by Esigie to Obi Oligbo of Issele to symbolize his position as the
authentic representative in the eastern extremities of Benin Empire.
He continued, "The Bronze mask is the face of Oba Esigie while the Festac Ivory mask, still in London, is the face of Queen Mother, Idia N'IYe'Esigie of Benin.

Your royal visit to us today is not the first time that a Benin Monarch has stepped on Issele soil.

a. Oba Ohen, in 1334, before his coronation, passed through Ukwunzu to Issele-Uku, travelling to Benin for his enthronement.
b. In the early 151h century, OBA Ewuare stayed at Issele-Uku for a short time. He was allowed to remain as common man, he was made a traditional chief as the Akogun of Issele-Uku, during the reign of Eze Ise of Issele-Uku.

c. When the Bisi asked the Oba Oguola to put to death his only brother, Adomo, before he could ascend the throne, Oba Oguola dispatched his brother Ogie Uwadiae to Issele-Uku. Adomo lived his life at Ogbeofu Quarters.


d. Before the reign of Obi Egbuna in 1840, all Issele Obis were schooled in the art of native administration in the Oba's palace and crowned there before they ascended the throne of Issele. The practice changed in 1840 when the Oba of Benin started to send his personal representatives to the coronation of all Obis at Issele-Uku. During the coronation of the reigning Obi Osemene III, Oba Akenzua II sent his chiefs, led by the Arala of Benin, Chief Osula. to represent him and perform some traditional rites at the ceremony.
e. During the campaign for the creation of Mid-West region. (Now Bendel State). Oba Akenzua II visited Issele-Uku twice to enlighten the people.
f. In 1962. when the then Western Regional Government voted £48,000 for Issele-Uku's water supply, Mr. Mark Uzoka of Onicha-Ugbo. the then Commissioner for Midwest Affairs, decided to install a master plan for water supply for the whole area. A water supply fund was launched at Issele-Uku, under the able leadership of Mr. Mark Uzoka himself. The Oba of Benin. Akenzua II sent his chiefs to the launching and made a personal donation of £100.

Your royal visit to Issele-Uku today has yet added another feather to this long established link. We are indeed very grateful to you and we assure you of our love and continued association with Benin monarchy, whatever may be the pattern and direction of political weather which, for all intents and purposes, are fundamentally artificial.

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The Founding Of Issele-Uku

Issele-Uku was originally called "Isi-Ile Uku" (meaning another provincial kingdom of Benin) and was founded by the Binis… the headship of prince Uwadiei, the second son of Oba Ehemil…. brother of Oba Ewedo in about 1230 A.D. The name "Isi-Ile … means belonging to Uku Akpolokpolo, Oba of Benin.
When Oba Ewedo founded the new outpost of Isi-Ile Uku, his main objective was to check the influx of people from across the river Niger and to establish Edo presence in the area. Oba Ewedo crown Ogie Uwadiei and sent him to rule Isi-Ile (Issele-Uku) in the company of Benin warriors from Ogbe, Ehaekpen, Idumu Inneh N’Ibiwe, Udumuigun and Udumuiken from Uselu, Ogbe-Eribo and Ugboka. The quarters they occupied still exist at Issele-Uku this day and are known as Ogbe-Ofu, Ishiekpe, Idumunei, Idumuzu (iron casters), Ogbeidibo and Edemoka.

Ogie Uwadiei gave birth to Ogie Ohania, Ohania gave birth to Osamala, Osamala died without a son and so there was a interregnum. Eze Ise, a Benin prince took over, he was the father of the Eze Ikhimi-Ezechima, Ezechima gave birth to princess Obior, a woman, prince Onicha and prince Oligbo who became Obi oligbo at the death of Ezechima because the senior brother Onicha had died while Ezechima was still on the throne of Issele!. The death of Onicha, while his father was still alive, was regarded as an abomination and he was buried in the bad bush at Issele-Uku which we call Onicha Ofia. When Eze Chima died at a very grand old age his surviving children Princess Obior, Prince Oligbo and the eldest son of Onicha, prince Ohaeze, struggled for the right to the throne of Issele. When it could not be settled at Issele-Uku, the case was taken to Oba Esigie, the reiging Oba of Benin, for final adjudication. Princess Obior, although the senior, was disqualified by the Oba on the ground that it was unheard of, for a woman to ascend to the throne in the Benin Empire. Prince Ohaeze was disqualified on the ground that his father, Onicha, had died prematurely and, therefore lost the right to the throne.

Prince Oligbo was approved for the throne being the only surviving direct son of Ezechima. He was called Ovbi-Ise (meaning the direct son of Ise). That was what gave rise to the title of our kings now known as "Obi".

The verdict of Oba Esigie marked a turning point in the history of this area for it led to the migration of Ezechima's children from Issele-Uku, without which the clan might not have come into being. Two things emanated from this situation. The first is the position of Issele-Uku, as the Head and origin of the clan and the second is the position of the incumbent of the seat of the Obi of Issele. If Onicha had lived to bury his father Ezechima, he would have taken over his throne at Issele-Uku and the question of migration by his children would not have arisen. Because this did happen, Oligbo became king. The position of Issele-Uku has remained unchanged for over eight centuries.
The decision of Oba Esigie was not taken kindly to by Ohaeze and princess Obior. They felt they would not live in the same town with the Obi Oligbo any longer. On their return from Benin, princess Obior and her husband, Ukpali, left Issele-Uku and finally settled at a place now known as Obior while Ohaeze left Issele-Uku and settled at Onicha-Olona. Ohaeze later continued his flight and went across the Niger to found Onicha Ohaeze now Onitsha in Anambra State. He left one of his wives who was in labour at Ezi, with his royal escort, Ifite and some of his other followers. On giving birth to a son, he named him Ezi Uzo, now Ezi town. At the death of Ohaeze at Onicha-Mili (Onitsha on the Niger) his junior son, Allah (now called Alori) became very powerful and his senior brother Agba. Agba later fled Onicha-mili and came back to Onicha-Olona and later to Issele-Uku. He finally settled down at the grandfather's farmland and called it Onicha-Ugbo (Onicha on the farm). This is how Onicha-Ugbo derived its name. One of the followers of Ohaeze who settled down at Onicha-Olona is called Ikelike. Ikelike later left some of his children at Onicha-Olona and went to settle at Ogwashi-Uku. His quarter at Ogwashi-Uku is known as Ikelike till this day.
Re: Check Out This Estate In Asaba by spearman(m): 3:12pm On Aug 06, 2023
gidgiddy:


Well if the 98 year old king of Asaba, Obi Chike Edozien, has told the whole world he os a proud Igbo man, tells you all you need to know about Asaba people

The Following Are the Ezechima Towns
1. ISSELE-UKU - Was founded at about 1230 A.D by Uwadiei, second son of Oba Ehemihen of Benin. It was foun by the Oba Ewedo to check the incursion of stranger elements the Benin Empire.
2. ONICIIA-OLONA — Was founded by Ohaeze in tile 16th cen after his flight from Issele-Uku.
3. EZI-UZOR — Was founded by IFITE, son of Ohaeze grandson of Ezechima).
4.ONICHA-UGBO — Was founded by prince Agba, eldest son of Ohaeze (and great grandson of Ezechima).
5.OBIOR — Was founded by princess Obior and her husband, Ukpali.
6. ONICHA-UKU — Was founded by immigrants from Onicha-Olona.
7. ISSELE-AZAGBA — Was founded by immigrants from Issele-Uku.
8. ISSELE-MKPITIME — Was founded by Ogbeowele, Ogbeofu and Idurnuinei quarters from Issele-Uku.
9. OBOMKPA — Was founded by prince Anagba, junior brother of Ezechima.
10. ONICHA-MILT—Was founded by Oha-Eze

THE ROLE OF ISSELE-UKU AS THE HEAD OF EZECHIMA CLAN

1. The Ezechima Native Court: This was built at Issele-Uku in 1906 by the British Government a few years after they had assumed full control of the administration of Nigeria. Government built native courts in the headquarters of clans. All the towns of Ezechima had always attended the native court at Issele-Uku and in fact, regarded it as their court. The Obi of Issele was the president of the native court.
2. Ezechima Hall: This was built in 1953 at Issele-Uku, with contribution from all the nine towns that make up Ezechima clan.
3. The 1896 Treaty: This was treaty of cession signed by Obi Egbune of Isseles, on behalf of himself and his people of Ezechima clan to maintain peace and cordial relations with Royal Niger Company.

Obi Odiwe of Asaba trekked to Issele-Uku to interpret and sign as a witness. A photocopy which was brought from the Museum in London by the Obi of Isseles in 1965 is attached.
4. Peace Treaty of 1912: The Obi of Isseles, Osemene I signed peace treaty with the British Government after Ekumeku war, was signed on behalf of himself, Ezechima people and the entire Niger Ibos. The British Museum, London, has the copy of this treaty.
I want to make it clear to Your Royal Highness, that Issele has love for all not only for Ezechima towns but the entire people of Nigeria living in our midst. We have always thought also that all Ezechima towns and other areas love us.
With the formation of District Authorities in 1981, people starteded to question the propriety of Issele-Uku to the headship of Ezechima clan. It is disheartening that in spite of the amicable settlement the Bendel State Government, in halting the attempt of removal headship of the clan, from Issele-Uku to another place, some have continued to exploit the pages of newspaper to write insinuating and tendentious statements which do not make for pleasant reading. We would like you to think, Your Royal Highness, that this situation is not strange to you. Issele-Uku is not just claiming the headship of Ezechima now. It is and has always been the Headship from the days of Oba Ewedo in the 13th century that is 752 years ago.
It is unfortunate that traditional rulers of one Ezechima family and descent, should allow themselves to be bought with money in order to enable one of us, lay abominable claim, in 1982, to the headship of Ezechima which this town Issele-Uku has been exercising for past eight centuries.
It is time we stopped using politicians and money to buy position which are essentially traditional. Politicians come and go but traditions remain as a full embodiment of our spiritual essence and existence. Headship of traditional institutions is also not estabestablished in pages of newspapers or in the mounting of signatures
to deceive the public. This is significantly puerile. Headship of clan is embodied in the genealogy and genesis of a people just as I have enumerated above. It cannot be established through open antagonism, nocturnal meetings, gang up, lobbying or the cajoling of long cherished Head into submission and to abdicate his position.
I am advising everyone in the presence of our respected Benin Monarch, the father of the Edo's, the father of our origins, and to whom we all own the traditional homage to think of how we can forge a united front and maintain peaceful co-existence with one another. Distasteful meetings aimed at ganging-up to destroy the image of a Head who did not stay there by himself but by natural design, will only create unnecessary bitterness which we all cannot be proud of.

The Stabillizing Role of the Oba of Benin

Your Royal Highness is not the Oba of the Edo's but I say with confidence, that you play the role of the traditional supervisor of Bendel State. The recent increase in the stipend paid to natural rulers is a credit to you in your capacity as the Adviser to the Government on Traditional Matters. In the ensuing years, you will have a vital role to play in fathering diverse political forms, and supplying the necessary equilibrium for natural co-existence and co-operation among the diverse ethnic groups that make up our communities. You are the embodiment of the total tradition of Bendel State and with the galaxy of eminent and seasoned Chiefs and traditionalists all around you, you will be able to cope squarely with the challenges of modern times, it is my hope and that of my people that your visit today is a sign of greater things to come.
We are proud of you and it is our prayer that you will continue to champion our cause at all times. In these days, when some politicians would tent to flout traditional authority, your position remolding situations will serve as the last hope of our people in the preservation of our culture. No nation can exist without its culture and our culture stands as a lasting testimony of our pride and identity as a people. Once again, I thank you for coming to this part of Bendel State while we wish you peaceful, prosperous and prodigious reign.



OBA GHATO OKPERE! ISE!
Your Royal Highness, Omo N'Oba, N'edo, Uku Akpolokpolo, Oba of Benin, Respected Natural Rulers, My Lords Spiritual and Temporal, Chiefs, Service Chiefs, Distinguished Ladies and Gentlemen, thank you for listening to this Address.
ROYAL PALACE, . (SGD) HRH, OSEMENE III
ISSELE-UKU. OBI OF ISSELES AND
15th of MARCH, 1982. TRADITIONAL HEAD OF
EZECHIMA CLAN.

Republished by Imasuen Amowie Izoduwa
Re: Check Out This Estate In Asaba by OVB123: 3:14pm On Aug 06, 2023
Cantonese:
By the way Isele Azagba is not Asaba please.

It’s just like calling Ekpoma by the name Benin, because they are within close proximity. Or calling Shagamu as Ijebu Remo.

We must call all areas by their names for proper and easy identification. However you can say Isele Azagba is within the state capital territory. Even Okpanam, Okwe, Amakom, Ugbolu, etc, which are towns on their own are not called by the name Asaba.

Isele Azagba is fast developing because Okpanam, which is the town before Asaba on the road to Onitsha, has become very costly to purchase lands. Now Isele Azagba, affords the opportunity to purchase lands at much more cheaper prices and the same benefits are afforded just like Asaba.

Re: Check Out This Estate In Asaba by Alphanancy: 4:05pm On Aug 06, 2023
Cantonese:
By the way Isele Azagba is not Asaba please.

It’s just like calling Ekpoma by the name Benin, because they are within close proximity. Or calling Shagamu as Ijebu Remo.

We must call all areas by their names for proper and easy identification. However you can say Isele Azagba is within the state capital territory. Even Okpanam, Okwe, Amakom, Ugbolu, etc, which are towns on their own are not called by the name Asaba.

Isele Azagba is fast developing because Okpanam, which is the town before Asaba on the road to Onitsha, has become very costly to purchase lands. Now Isele Azagba, affords the opportunity to purchase lands at much more cheaper prices and the same benefits are afforded just like Asaba.

Oga Isele Azagba is part of Asaba capital territory.
Just the way it is in Rivers state between port Harcourt and Obiakpor LGAs
Re: Check Out This Estate In Asaba by gidgiddy: 4:09pm On Aug 06, 2023
spearman:


FAKE NEWS
EDO-ZIEN AS in EDO! EDO!! EDO!!!

OBI from Edo word Ovie (Son of)

Asagba is Ovie (Son of) Edo

Thats like saying that Peter Edochie has Edo ancestry because 'Edo' starts his surname

Asaba indigenes are very proud Igbos. Infact, zn Asaba man called Dennis Nwanzu Osadebay was once the Premier of the Midwest Region. Before that, he was secretary General of the Igbo state union, the organisation that later became Ohanaeze
Re: Check Out This Estate In Asaba by oyatz(m): 4:16pm On Aug 06, 2023
spearman:


Asaba Man Responds On Facebook To Asaba Is Igbo Claims

Asaba Inlaw: "In This Whole World You Couldn’t Find Anyone To Marry But An Igbo"

Short story: One of my earliest and most persistent memories is this - near my village, 1 kilometer from Asaba, was a camp where people lived.
Who are they I asked - “Wa bu Ndigbo” I was told. Translation: “They are Igbos”.
I was confused. Aren’t we Igbos, but I said nothing.
Another occasion I heard some commotion in the direction of the camp. Oh don’t be worried I was told. They are Igbos. Again so thought but we are igbos!


Fast forward 3 decades.
A friend of mine from Aba who married from Asaba, over a beer told me “I can’t get over Asaba people. During my native law, my wife’s people kept abusing her in the same language I spoke. They kept saying ‘so in this whole world, you couldn’t find anyone to marry but an Igbo?’”
These are true accounts.
People from my area… even the indigenes of ONITSHA (I’ve been told) consider themselves Not Igbo.
I grew up seeing my people refer to others as “Those Igbo people”.
I have just learnt that the phrase “Igbo enwere Eze” was coined by core Igbos to separate themselves from the Onitsha indigenes…
Following that logic, Asaba nwere eze .... kedụ ka ọ ga-esi bụrụ igbo?
ka anyi biri n’udo nwanne m nwoke
m zuru ikpe m

It’s not an issue to be swept under the carpet. We need to consider it seriously.

Just because everyone in America speaks English doesn’t change their ancestry (some are of German, Italian, Russian, African, Chinese ancestry...).
Ancestry can only be determined scientifically by DNA analysis. My sister discovered she has ancestors from Mali, Senega... of course!! The river Niger flows through those nations before it passes the shores of my village which sits on the West Bank of the Niger net Asaba.

Bottom line, you cannot teach a man how to write with his left hand in old age.
The real issue is why so many Igbo speaking people reject the idea they’re Igbo. (Like some Egyptians in an interview I watched - who can’t understand why they’re considered Africans at all!).
Let’s have an academic discussion why!
We may learn valuable lessons.
��‍♂️�
Good morning.


The Asaba people who are saying they aren't Igbos are those whose Ancestors came from Bini, Igala, Yoruba and some autochthonous ancient communities within that axis.
Re: Check Out This Estate In Asaba by spearman(m): 9:09pm On Aug 06, 2023
The point is there are enough of these non-Ibo Asabans to make Asaba an impossible Biafra territory.
Re: Check Out This Estate In Asaba by spearman(m): 9:10pm On Aug 06, 2023
oyatz:



The Asaba people who are saying they aren't Igbos are those whose Ancestors came from Bini, Igala, Yoruba and some autochthonous ancient communities within that axis.
The point is there are enough of these non-Ibo Asabans to make Asaba an impossible Biafra territory.

besides this colonial map of cannibalism shows that people on the west of the Niger river don't eat humans. That is a powerful piece of scientific anthropological proof that there are no cultural Ibos or otherwise West of the River Niger.

Re: Check Out This Estate In Asaba by Cantonese: 12:30pm On Aug 07, 2023
Couldntfigurean:
And its not ending anytime soon,I myself spent my new year in isele Azagba/Ogwashi azagba,even them themselves say it’s Asaba when describing their towns to non indegenes
The guy I went to visit just told me he stays in Asaba but alas it was Azagba

No Ogwashi person or Azagba Ogwashi, or Edo Ogwashi person will ever tell you that he is from Asaba. Ogwashi just like Asaba is a very prominent town that stands on its own. A very ancient town, very well known nationwide with great personalities.

Infact in those days, people from neighbouring towns around Ogwashi called identified themselves as They gwashi people. By that I am referring to the likes of Ubulu Uku, Ubulu Uno, Igbuzor, Ashama, Ewulu, etc.
However since the creation of Delta state, the different towns and people identify themselves by their towns and communities. One major reason for such in those days, was intermarriage among the different people.

Some people pronounce Azagba as Asaba. It is better to let visitors know that the name is Isele Azagba. It is a fast developing town because of its proximity to Asaba and Okpanam. There are property companies also selling lands at good rates. If you purchase now, you will never regret it.
Re: Check Out This Estate In Asaba by Stillkrug: 9:17am On Aug 08, 2023
spearman:


Asaba Man Responds On Facebook To Asaba Is Igbo Claims

Asaba Inlaw: "In This Whole World You Couldn’t Find Anyone To Marry But An Igbo"

Short story: One of my earliest and most persistent memories is this - near my village, 1 kilometer from Asaba, was a camp where people lived.
Who are they I asked - “Wa bu Ndigbo” I was told. Translation: “They are Igbos”.
I was confused. Aren’t we Igbos, but I said nothing.
Another occasion I heard some commotion in the direction of the camp. Oh don’t be worried I was told. They are Igbos. Again so thought but we are igbos!


Fast forward 3 decades.
A friend of mine from Aba who married from Asaba, over a beer told me “I can’t get over Asaba people. During my native law, my wife’s people kept abusing her in the same language I spoke. They kept saying ‘so in this whole world, you couldn’t find anyone to marry but an Igbo?’”
These are true accounts.
People from my area… even the indigenes of ONITSHA (I’ve been told) consider themselves Not Igbo.
I grew up seeing my people refer to others as “Those Igbo people”.
I have just learnt that the phrase “Igbo enwere Eze” was coined by core Igbos to separate themselves from the Onitsha indigenes…
Following that logic, Asaba nwere eze .... kedụ ka ọ ga-esi bụrụ igbo?
ka anyi biri n’udo nwanne m nwoke
m zuru ikpe m

It’s not an issue to be swept under the carpet. We need to consider it seriously.

Just because everyone in America speaks English doesn’t change their ancestry (some are of German, Italian, Russian, African, Chinese ancestry...).
Ancestry can only be determined scientifically by DNA analysis. My sister discovered she has ancestors from Mali, Senega... of course!! The river Niger flows through those nations before it passes the shores of my village which sits on the West Bank of the Niger net Asaba.

Bottom line, you cannot teach a man how to write with his left hand in old age.
The real issue is why so many Igbo speaking people reject the idea they’re Igbo. (Like some Egyptians in an interview I watched - who can’t understand why they’re considered Africans at all!).
Let’s have an academic discussion why!
We may learn valuable lessons.
��‍♂️�
Good morning.
Where is your Proof not by cooking pot of propaganda and lies
Re: Check Out This Estate In Asaba by oyatz(m): 12:48pm On Aug 09, 2023
spearman:

The point is there are enough of these non-Ibo Asabans to make Asaba an impossible Biafra territory.

besides this colonial map of cannibalism shows that people on the west of the Niger river don't eat humans. That is a powerful piece of scientific anthropological proof that there are no cultural Ibos or otherwise West of the River Niger.




Asaba was NEVER part of Biafra.

There are Igbos on the West of the Niger.


Before 1960, Igbo was more of a Linguistic Group than a single Ethnic.

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