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Please, How Was Jesus Able To Ascend To Heaven? by Reflect7: 3:02am On May 05
HAPPY SUNDAY, ALL.

Can someone please explain the process by which 'Jesus' ascended 'up to heaven' before onlookers.

What manner of propulsion was used in this flight?

Re: Please, How Was Jesus Able To Ascend To Heaven? by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:04am On May 05
Gravitational forces pulling objects to the earth only affects things that is found within the atmosphere but in the case of Jesus Christ He told his friends:

“You are from the realms below (earth); I am from the realms above (heaven). You are from this world; I am not from this world." John 8:23

So when he finished his earthly mission he suspended all the elements that's prone to gravity in his body so that he began floating gradually as he returns to where he belongs:

HEAVEN!
Re: Please, How Was Jesus Able To Ascend To Heaven? by Reflect7: 7:49am On May 05
MaxInDHouse:
Gravitational forces pulling objects to the earth only affects things that is found within the atmosphere but in the case of Jesus Christ He told his friends:

“You are from the realms below (earth); I am from the realms above (heaven). You are from this world; I am not from this world." John 8:23

So when he finished his earthly mission he suspended all the elements that's prone to gravity in his body so that he began floating gradually as he returns to where he belongs:

HEAVEN!

Heaven is a physical location in the sky, that a physical person can fly to?

Is it a location somewhere up in the clouds?

Or is it another planet in outer space?

Where did he fly to?
Re: Please, How Was Jesus Able To Ascend To Heaven? by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:05am On May 05
Reflect7:

Heaven is a physical location in the sky, that a physical person can fly to?
Is it a location somewhere up in the clouds?
Or is it another planet in outer space?
Where did he fly to?

When talking about HEAVEN the Bible made it clear that there are two types:

The HEAVENS: the physical space that we can see through the use of microscope! Genesis 1:1


HEAVEN: the spiritual realm where spirit beings lives! Daniel 2:44

So when Jesus left the earth he returned to the spirit realm where spirits of his kind lives.
This realm is invisible to the eyes neither can we view it through the use of microscope.

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Re: Please, How Was Jesus Able To Ascend To Heaven? by AbuTwins: 9:28am On May 05
Jesus was working against gravity!
Re: Please, How Was Jesus Able To Ascend To Heaven? by 22jumpstreet: 9:31am On May 05
Fake story...

There is a firmament up there that God has put up there to keep our the waters of heaven.
Earth is a closed system..Nobody is getting in and nobody is going out...The spital realm exist side by side the physical one...

If you have finished your mission on earth and ticked all the boxes then you can move to the next dimension, but if you have not, you come back again to try once more....
Re: Please, How Was Jesus Able To Ascend To Heaven? by gohf: 9:57am On May 05
Reflect7:
HAPPY SUNDAY, ALL.

Can someone please explain the process by which 'Jesus' ascended 'up to heaven' before onlookers.

What manner of propulsion was used in this flight?

Through the power of God

Become righteous, pray and experience tremendous power to rise above this earthly life

Re: Please, How Was Jesus Able To Ascend To Heaven? by kingxsamz(m): 10:12am On May 05
Reflect7:
HAPPY SUNDAY, ALL.

Can someone please explain the process by which 'Jesus' ascended 'up to heaven' before onlookers.

What manner of propulsion was used in this flight?


Heavenly, invisible jet pack.

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Re: Please, How Was Jesus Able To Ascend To Heaven? by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:22am On May 05
22jumpstreet:

Fake story...
There is a firmament up there that God has put up there to keep our the waters of heaven.
Earth is a closed system..Nobody is getting in and nobody is going out...The spital realm exist side by side the physical one...
If you have finished your mission on earth and ticked all the boxes then you can move to the next dimension, but if you have not, you come back again to try once more....

The OP has expressed his opinion that Nigeria should make the move to start a new religion and promote it globally.
https://www.nairaland.com/8076403/nigeria-must-start-new-religion

One thing we must admit is that there is no way we can do so without first considering the existing religions we had before the whitemen came to Africa, all these religions taught that the gods came from the heavens to the earth and that some of them returned to heaven.
So if we agree with our own religion that there has been people who once walked this planet and that they came from heaven and returned to heaven then questioning another religion for saying the same thing would make us a laughing stock! undecided

Re: Please, How Was Jesus Able To Ascend To Heaven? by StillDtruth: 3:04pm On May 05
Reflect7:
HAPPY SUNDAY, ALL.

Can someone please explain the process by which 'Jesus' ascended 'up to heaven' before onlookers.

What manner of propulsion was used in this flight? ]

When will man stop being stupid? Person wey make engine dey need engine to move?
Re: Please, How Was Jesus Able To Ascend To Heaven? by Reflect7: 3:27pm On May 05
MaxInDHouse:


When talking about HEAVEN the Bible made it clear that there are two types:

The HEAVENS: the physical space that we can see through the use of microscope! Genesis 1:1


HEAVEN: the spiritual realm where spirit beings lives! Daniel 2:44

So when Jesus left the earth he returned to the spirit realm where spirits of his kind lives.
This realm is invisible to the eyes neither can we view it through the use of microscope.

So why did he ‘rise up’ or ‘ascend’ to heaven?

Is that spiritual realm up in the sky?

‘Spiritual realm’ suggests a different DIMENSION or PLANE of existence, meaning that you cannot physically fly to such a place. It has no physical location!

So how did ‘Jesus’ supposedly fly there in a physical body?
Re: Please, How Was Jesus Able To Ascend To Heaven? by Reflect7: 3:36pm On May 05
MaxInDHouse:


The OP has expressed his opinion that Nigeria should make the move to start a new religion and promote it globally.
https://www.nairaland.com/8076403/nigeria-must-start-new-religion

One thing we must admit is that there is no way we can do so without first considering the existing religions we had before the whitemen came to Africa, all these religions taught that the gods came from the heavens to the earth and that some of them returned to heaven.
So if we agree with our own religion that there has been people who once walked this planet and that they came from heaven and returned to heaven then questioning another religion for saying the same thing would make us a laughing stock! undecided

You are WRONG.

Our ancestors were not stupid.

They never said that the gods came from heaven, which they called the ‘land of the ancestors’

They said the gods came “from the sky”.

Big difference.
Re: Please, How Was Jesus Able To Ascend To Heaven? by Emusan(m): 3:36pm On May 05
Reflect7:
HAPPY SUNDAY, ALL.

Can someone please explain the process by which 'Jesus' ascended 'up to heaven' before onlookers.

What manner of propulsion was used in this flight?


Since you know there's a propulsion system then the Creator can achieve that without much ado
Re: Please, How Was Jesus Able To Ascend To Heaven? by Emusan(m): 3:47pm On May 05
MaxInDHouse:
Gravitational forces pulling objects to the earth only affects things that is found within the atmosphere but in the case of Jesus Christ He told his friends:

“You are from the realms below (earth); I am from the realms above (heaven). You are from this world; I am not from this world." John 8:23

So when he finished his earthly mission he suspended all the elements that's prone to gravity in his body so that he began floating gradually as he returns to where he belongs:

HEAVEN!

I love this scripture.

Since you inserted 'Earth' and 'Heaven' into first part.

The second part is evident that Jesus is not part of creation by using the word 'World(Creation, Universe)'

In case you want to argue with it, you're the very one who substituted realms below as 'Earth' (Even though though is PLURAL which means it's just not only earth but physical world.) and realms above as 'Heaven' (which means the spirit world)

So what is the substitute for the second part?
Re: Please, How Was Jesus Able To Ascend To Heaven? by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:49pm On May 05
Reflect7:

So why did he ‘rise up’ or ‘ascend’ to heaven?
Is that spiritual realm up in the sky?
‘Spiritual realm’ suggests a different DIMENSION or PLANE of existence, meaning that you cannot physically fly to such a place. It has no physical location! So how did ‘Jesus’ supposedly fly there in a physical body?

He didn't go in a physical body what they saw that day was a materialized body to convince them that he has risen from the dead.
After his resurrection he became a spirit being {1Corinthians 15:45} that's why his friends couldn't recognize him in the strange bodies he was using after his death! Luke 24:15-16; John 20:14; 21:4
Re: Please, How Was Jesus Able To Ascend To Heaven? by capnies: 5:28pm On May 05
MaxInDHouse:


He didn't go in a physical body what they saw that day was a materialized body to convince them that he has risen from the dead.
After his resurrection he became a spirit being {1Corinthians 15:45} that's why his friends couldn't recognize him in the strange bodies he was using after his death! Luke 24:15-16; John 20:14; 21:4


JESUS RESURRECTED WITH HIS PHYSICAL BODY.
WHERE WAS HIS PHYSICAL BODY WHICH DID NOT DECAY AFTER THE RESURRECTION.
JESUS HAS A BODY AND EVEN ATE AFTER RESURRECTION, LOOK FOR ANOTHER WAY TO EXPLAIN YOUR POINT.
EVEN ANGELS TOLD THE PEOPLE THAT SAW JESUS ASCEND THAT HE WILL COME BACK THE SAME WAY

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Re: Please, How Was Jesus Able To Ascend To Heaven? by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:30pm On May 05
capnies:

JESUS RESURRECTED WITH HIS PHYSICAL BODY.
WHERE WAS HIS PHYSICAL BODY WHICH DID NOT DECAY AFTER THE RESURRECTION.
JESUS HAS A BODY AND EVEN ATE AFTER RESURRECTION, LOOK FOR ANOTHER WAY TO EXPLAIN YOUR POINT.
EVEN ANGELS TOLD THE PEOPLE THAT SAW JESUS ASCEND THAT HE WILL COME BACK THE SAME WAY

His physical body was taken away by the angels as the SACRIFICE for sin offering so he has no right to take back that body because it's what bears mankind's sin.

So if you want to learn just follow up instead of jumping into the discussion, if you know how to respond why not do so before i came in?

Most of you just stick to what you were told without making research.

Jesus has a life before his earthly mission and that life is in the spirit realm, the physical body he grew up with is the perfect human body that will take away the sin of mankind that's why he has no right to take it back but as for his existence as a spirit being that is his own!
Re: Please, How Was Jesus Able To Ascend To Heaven? by Jokerman(m): 9:32pm On May 05
The creator has power over his creation.

Didn't you read he walked on water,made the lame work, made the blind receive their sight, Fed the hungry, resurrected from the dead and preached salvation to lost souls... So what is ascension that cannot be done?
Re: Please, How Was Jesus Able To Ascend To Heaven? by Reflect7: 1:00am On May 06
Jokerman:
The creator has power over his creation.

Didn't you read he walked on water, made the lame work, made the blind receive their sight, Fed the hungry, resurrected from the dead and preached salvation to lost souls... So what is ascension that cannot be done?

If he had these powers, why did he just use them to help one or two people instead of all people on Earth?

Why come all the way from 'heaven' as the ''son of God'' only to raise one man from the dead, and feed a couple of people?

Why didn't he just end world hunger?

He could have easily commanded the land to produce ten times more food for all eternity before flying back up to 'heaven'.

WAS THE DOCTRINE OF HELLFIRE INVENTED SO THAT PEOPLE WOULDN'T ASK THESE QUESTIONS?

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Re: Please, How Was Jesus Able To Ascend To Heaven? by Reflect7: 1:03am On May 06
Emusan:


Since you know there's a propulsion system then the Creator can achieve that without much ado

Yes, so please explain the propulsion system that was used to post him back to 'heaven'.
Re: Please, How Was Jesus Able To Ascend To Heaven? by Jokerman(m): 9:43am On May 06
Reflect7:


If he had these powers, why did he just use them to help one or two people instead of all people on Earth?

Why come all the way from 'heaven' as the ''son of God'' only to raise one man from the dead, and feed a couple of people?

Why didn't he just end world hunger?

He could have easily commanded the land to produce ten times more food for all eternity before flying back up to 'heaven'.

WAS THE DOCTRINE OF HELLFIRE INVENTED SO THAT PEOPLE WOULDN'T ASK THESE QUESTIONS?




God created all things for his pleasure; and for his pleasure they are and were created.

Sm
Re: Please, How Was Jesus Able To Ascend To Heaven? by Reflect7: 3:23pm On May 06
Jokerman:


God created all things for his pleasure; and for his pleasure they are and were created.

Sm


What a foolish response.

You can literally use this line to deflect any question regarding your idiotic beliefs.
Re: Please, How Was Jesus Able To Ascend To Heaven? by Truuth: 6:52pm On May 06
Reflect7:


Heaven is a physical location in the sky, that a physical person can fly to?

Is it a location somewhere up in the clouds?

Or is it another planet in outer space?

Where did he fly to?

Hey I get your question.

First and foremost, there is nothing like another planet.
The Earth is a closed system, there's water above the firmament of the earth.

God created the sky(firmament) to separate the waters above from the waters below.

The earth is basically inside water at every side and all way round.

It is not possible to leave the earth. The only to leave the earth is a if a person dies. In your physical body you can't.

As for your question. Jesus was human after the resurrection - He told Thomas, a spirit has not flesh and bones but I do. He was carried through a portal into heaven bypassing the waters above the firmament.

If a human passes through the firmament and then through the waters above earth, will he get to heaven YES - but you die before you get there. It's not to possible to leave the earth in your physical body.

Is heaven in the physical plane, somewhere far above the sky - I think so. But you can't reach there or go there, because of the barrier.
Re: Please, How Was Jesus Able To Ascend To Heaven? by Reflect7: 7:06pm On May 06
Truuth:
Hey I get your question.

First and foremost, there is nothing like another planet.
The Earth is a closed system, there's water above the firmament of the earth.

God created the sky(firmament) to separate the waters above from the waters below.

The earth is basically inside water at every side and all way round.

It is not possible to leave the earth. The only to leave the earth is a if a person dies. In your physical body you can't.

As for your question. Jesus was human after the resurrection - He told Thomas, a spirit has not flesh and bones but I do. He was carried through a portal into heaven bypassing the waters above the firmament.

If a human passes through the firmament and then through the waters above earth, will he get to heaven YES - but you die before you get there. It's not to possible to leave the earth in your physical body.

Is heaven in the physical plane, somewhere far above the sky - I think so. But you can't reach there or go there, because of the barrier.

Interesting input.

But you spoilt it by including the Jesus fairytale in it.

There is no evidence he ever lived, much less flew to heaven via a magic portal.

By the way, what do you think lies beyond the water in which the Earth is ensconced?

Or is what we call the universe just a large sea of water?

Also, what in your view stops the Earth from just floating away or sinking inside this water?
Re: Please, How Was Jesus Able To Ascend To Heaven? by Truuth: 4:10am On May 07
Reflect7:


Interesting input.

But you spoilt it by including the Jesus fairytale in it.

There is no evidence he ever lived, much less flew to heaven via a magic portal.

By the way, what do you think lies beyond the water in which the Earth is ensconced?

Or is what we call the universe just a large sea of water?

Also, what in your view stops the Earth from just floating away or sinking inside this water?

If you don't believe Jesus walked the earth, why you asking about the science behind his ascension. ?

Now imagine a huge rock under a sea, will the rock foat in the sea? - No

The earth has foundations, set up and created by God himself, so it cannot be moved or shaken.

What lies above that sea is another world entire free from evil and troubles of these realm - Heaven.

There are thousands of people who believes that earth rotates round the sun and that the universe is an endless space where planets rotates. Puhaha..
Re: Please, How Was Jesus Able To Ascend To Heaven? by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:52am On May 07
Reflect7:

You are WRONG.
Our ancestors were not stupid.
They never said that the gods came from heaven, which they called the ‘land of the ancestors’
They said the gods came “from the sky”.
Big difference.

Hmmmmmmmmmmm, so let's consider your last sentence thoughtfully.

How can people come from the sky?
Is there a place in the sky where people lives?
If so in which of the planets? undecided
Re: Please, How Was Jesus Able To Ascend To Heaven? by Forkthiefnubu: 7:04pm On May 07
Jihadist the same way your rapist prophet was splashed with pigs blood , wild pig
Re: Please, How Was Jesus Able To Ascend To Heaven? by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:35am On May 08
@ Reflect7
If you have no answer to the questions below then know that Jesus ascended just as your gods descended! smiley

MaxInDHouse:

Hmmmmmmmmmmm, so let's consider your last sentence thoughtfully.

How can people come from the sky?
Is there a place in the sky where people lives?
If so in which of the planets? undecided
Re: Please, How Was Jesus Able To Ascend To Heaven? by Truuth: 9:05pm On May 18
MaxInDHouse:


Hmmmmmmmmmmm, so let's consider your last sentence thoughtfully.

How can people come from the sky?
Is there a place in the sky where people lives?
If so in which of the planets? undecided
The Gods created earth and heaven. Plural, because they are more than one.

They came from a star system(nibiru) not planet. Two brothers Enki and Enli visited and created earth together, as well as some other female gods, they were sent by Anu their father. After the creation, Enki then desired for man to be created of the likeness of they. "Let us make man" that's Enki talking, hence he formed man from clay and then Enli breathed life into man.
Enli is known as yahweh. While Enki birthed other gods like Thoth, Horus, etc these gods were worship in ancient Egypt.
While Yeshua is the son of Enli.

After the creation of man Enli desired for man to worship him, but Enki had a soft spot for humans so he made them to eat of the tree of the knowledge of Good and Evil, so they have knowledge.

Enli drove man out man out of the garden, so they could not eat of the tree of life then live forever.

The two Gods, Enki and Enli rule the universe.
Re: Please, How Was Jesus Able To Ascend To Heaven? by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:09pm On May 18
Truuth:
.
Two brothers Enki and Enli visited and created earth together,.
So tell the OP that those who came from other places to do something here knows their way back to where they came.
Thanks! smiley
Re: Please, How Was Jesus Able To Ascend To Heaven? by Truuth: 9:11pm On May 18
MaxInDHouse:

So tell the OP that those who came from other places to do something here knows their way back to where they came.
Thanks! smiley
lol

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