davidylan:

i will only take them serious when they do a similar thing with islam. I don't respect the views of cowards and hypocrites.

Its easy to write a book to slander christianity especially when you will get paid well for it, live the rest of your life a celebrity and not have to worry about fatwahs.

davidylan:

i will only take them serious when they do a similar thing with islam. I don't respect the views of cowards and hypocrites.

Its easy to write a book to slander christianity especially when you will get paid well for it, live the rest of your life a celebrity and not have to worry about fatwahs.

KAG:

Not everyone is Salman Rushdie, Reza Safa, Ibn Warraq, Ayaan Hirsi Ali, or indeed Theo Van Gogh. People find inspiration in different places and authors tend to write books on subjects they understand and to which they can do justice.

davidylan:

Have you noticed the common link between the above mentioned and the vast disparity between them and a certain Dan Brown?

KAG:

They all have works that deal with Islamic themes, while Dan Brown's deals with Christian themes.

davidylan:

Maybe you chose to gloss over the most critical denominator for all those mentioned. While Dan Brown swims in millions as proceeds from his now famous book, Theo Van Gogh has paid with his life, Salman Rushdie has a fatwah hanging over his head, Ali has had to go into exile and the others are protected by the US.
Shouldnt have been difficult to see that you know. . .

KAG:

First, Salman Rushdie, though threatened with a fatwa, is swimming in millions too (I know, not your point, but worth mentioning).

KAG:

Ali was already in "exile" (I suspect you mean her assylum in the Netherlands) before she started writing. I've seen to evidence to suggest that the others are anymore protected by the US than any other high profile author. I agree Theo Van Gogh was killed by a insane Muslim fanatic.

KAG:

Basically, it was difficult to see.

KAG:

P.S. Dan Brown has receieved his share of death threats too - though none endorsed by Christian high leaders, with this being one of the most famous: http://blog.atheology.com/2006/05/23/1000000-rupees-for-dan-browns-head/

davidylan:

Yep Rushdie may be "swimming in millions" but unlike Dan Brown he is not free to move around his adopted country. Might have something to do with the fact that the government of Iran has a bounty on his head eh.

Hirsi Ali has had to live in hiding since 2004 while Dan Brown roams free.

Because you refuse to see.

Is that your example of Dan Brown's threats?

If that was the type Ali, Rushdie and others were subjected to we wont be talking here now. That link is so ridiculous.

davidylan:

i will only take them serious when they do a similar thing with islam. I don't respect the views of cowards and hypocrites.

Its easy to write a book to slander christianity especially when you will get paid well for it, live the rest of your life a celebrity and not have to worry about fatwahs.

Purist:


But let's assume that he really is a coward. . Only a stupid fellow would write provocatively on a faith, knowing fully well that its adherents would not hesitate to take his life at the slightest opportunity.

Sky-walker:

What your view on this story.This stuff is now being shown on cable television (DSTV) and on the internet too much nowadays.

I watched it and i has to switch it off.I was almost believing this people and their story.This guys are good.They backed it up well.


What your view on them.
Are they speaking the truth or they are just trying to destroy Christianity

jagunlabi:

I can tell you one thing,none of us poor brainless africans know jack about the inner workings of this european religion dumped on our laps.So we really can't be so opinionated about the davinci controversy.Let the "owners" of the religion debate on the subject.They are better equipped to do so.

cgift:

Tha's what we ar sayiing! The guy walks free with his head intact! No holy war declared on him by christains!

And see someone who prides himself a christian declares a christian holy war, Didnt Jesus say if someone slaps you on one side of your cheek,provide the other also for the same slap! What war are you declaring? The "holy war",the crusades was the war that had the heaviest religious killings in history when the church of england, the catholic church murdered alot of breakaway faithfuls.
The muslims declare jihad and put it through because of their unity,but the so-called christians keep mum because pride wont let the catholic church equate itself with other type of churches,though most are so money and pleasure principled,therefore your call for a "holy war" will never exist because there is no unity between the churches.

jerrymania:

And see someone who prides himself a christian declares a christian holy war, Didnt Jesus say if someone slaps you on one side of your cheek,provide the other also for the same slap! What war are you declaring? The "holy war",the crusades was the war that had the heaviest religious killings in history when the church of england, the catholic church murdered alot of breakaway faithfuls.
The muslims declare jihad and put it through because of their unity,but the so-called christians keep mum because pride wont let the catholic church equate itself with other type of churches,though most are so money and pleasure principled,therefore your call for a "holy war" will never exist because there is no unity between the churches.

jagunlabi:

I can tell you one thing,none of us poor brainless africans know jack about the inner workings of this european religion dumped on our laps.So we really can't be so opinionated about the davinci controversy.Let the "owners" of the religion debate on the subject.They are better equipped to do so.

cgift:

Tha's what we ar sayiing! The guy walks free with his head intact! No holy war declared on him by christains!

Purist:

Do you, in the first place, expect a holy war to be declared by Christians? I fail to see the essence of the comparism between Islam and Christianity here.

Pray tell, would you risk your precious life just to prove that you're not a coward, even when nobody really cares; or even when your "bravery" doesn't affect anybody positively?

Kobojunkie:

But KAG,


It has been shown over and over by historians and archeologists that the claims made in the book can not be substantiated in any way. So Are you saying he wrote a good book of fiction or are you trying to say his book make sense based on history? I don't get it ,


Kobojunkie

KAG:

Technically, the government of Iran doesn't have a bounty on Rushdie's head and for all intents and purposes the fatwa isn't in action (although it can't be lifted because the issuer is dead). That is not to say that Rushdie wasn't wanted dead by the Ayatollah. Just stating the facts. In any case, at this moment Rushdie can move around Britain in about the same capacity as Brown can in America.

Oh, I thought you said exile. In any case, she roams just as free as Dan Brown does.

4 Play:

Could I also add that David Beckham,Jade Goody and Tuface Idibia have also received death threats,which by your reckoning should put them on par with Salman Rushdie.

MC Usman:

Why should we deviate from the original topic, this tread have noting to do with The Great Religion? The writer was not a Great One, nether did he mention anything about The Great Religion. The author of this tread was asking follow nairalanders question about the facts provided in the Da Vinci Code book, and that he seem to believe in some of the facts provided not any relation between the book and The Great Religion. People tend to deliberately deviate from questions that they seem to have no answers to them .

The guys are good? (Are they good or not if yes or no why?)
They backed it well (Facts provided reliable or not?)
He watched it and had to switch it off. Why because he about to believe the story (why off it?)
Are they speaking the truth or they are just trying to destroy Christianity (good question?)

These are the question we are waiting for your answers not the stuff that are posted here.

MC Usman:

This forum is getting bored. What the Bleep are you guys taking about, why the deviation. The poor guy asked about your views you are fucking making reference to David Beckham, Tuface. The next moment it would be either Obama or Hillary Clinton.

KAG:

The f*ck are you on about?

4 Play:

Trying to make sense of your mangled comparisons.

Davidylan noted the death threats hanging over Rushdie and Ali,in response,you whimsically brought up Dan Brown's death threats stating that the only difference was the source of the threat.By the same token,you should bear in mind that Beckham,Goody and Idibia have all received death threats too so are on par with Rushdie using your 'logic.'

KAG:

Apparently you still haven't managed that.

4 Play:



That is why it is so mangled.Its like a car wreck.

At the root of matter was whether anti-I.slam polemicists faced a unique degree of censorship compared to "anti-Christian" writers.

David mentioned Rushdie in response to which you brought up Dan Brown. . . . .its risible to place Brown in Rushdie or Ali's position in so far as threats to their lives are concerned.

Merely noting instances of such death threats is ridiculous,a lot of "high-profile" people from footballers to musicians regularly receive such threats.Its not the prescence of threats per se that is at issue but the likelihood of such threats materialising and its attendant effects on civil liberties.

Simply saying-'Christians issue death threats,Mu.slims issue death threats, so therein lies their moral equivalence'-demonstrates a shocking lack of perspective.

Your attempts to show that Brown and Ali faced the same level of risks was absurd.