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Why Do Muslim Dominated Countries Discrminate Against Their Minorities by IleIfe2(m): 10:54am On Feb 05, 2012 |
Most people must have observed that Muslim dominated countries systematically discriminate against minorities in such countries. the government in most of these countries even sponsor terrorist groups in other countries and they also arm militant and paramilitary groups within their own country to perpetuate racial hatred and cause fear among the non-muslims. These groups enjoy subtle and blatant support among fellow muslims. As a non-muslim, that has good job or business, steady income and a "perfect comfortable life". How do you protect and defend your believe and freedom? do employ the islamic tactic or you just wait till you are consumed? As we all know if don't bother them they will bother because they believe they occupy the moral high ground.What do you do, these groups are committed to this cause 24/7 of their lives.
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Re: Why Do Muslim Dominated Countries Discrminate Against Their Minorities by LagosShia: 11:44am On Feb 05, 2012 |
i think instead of generalizing,it is best you cite examples.i am sure there are cases i will agree with you and others which i will not. it is better to be specific than to post pictures of Sayyed Hassan Nasrallah,a leader of the Lebanese resistance to israeli occupation alongside the illitrate fool and CIA agent of boko haram.Ahmadinejad is president of Iran and also al-Bashir is president of Sudan.why did you post the picture of a boko haram fool alongside the pictures of those men?that is not fair as that could be seen no less than what you are complaining about and moreover an attempt at propaganda. |
Re: Why Do Muslim Dominated Countries Discrminate Against Their Minorities by Lasinoh: 12:44pm On Feb 05, 2012 |
Oh well. That is what religion does best. Steal, kill and propagate evil in the name of their Gods and Prophets. Homosexuals are also 'minorities' in Christian countries abi? We can also relate the concept of rabid discrimination in the name of the Christian God too. Pretty dumb! In the same vein, we can also infer that women and children are discriminated against in Christian PRIMITIVE SOCIETIES. You reap what you sow. . . Praise YOUR God! |
Re: Why Do Muslim Dominated Countries Discrminate Against Their Minorities by brentkruge: 12:24am On Feb 08, 2012 |
Preamble Conversion to Islam is simple (cf. shahada), but Muslims are forbidden to convert from Islam to another religion (cf. Apostasy in Islam). Certain Muslim-majority countries are known for their restrictions on religious freedom, highly favoring Muslim citizens over non-Muslim citizens. Other countries, having the same restrictive laws, tend to be more liberal when imposing them. Even other Muslim-majority countries are secular and thus do not regulate religious belief. The Minorities Bahai The Bahá'ís are Iran's largest religious minority, and Iran is the location of one of the largest Bahá'í populations in the world. Bahá'ís in Iran have allegedly been subject to unwarranted arrests, false imprisonment, beatings, torture, unjustified executions, confiscation and destruction of property owned by individuals and the Bahá'í community, denial of employment, denial of government benefits, denial of civil rights and liberties, and denial of access to higher education. Bahá'ís continue to be persecuted in Islamic countries, as Islamic leaders do not recognize the Bahá'í Faith as an independent religion, but rather as apostasy from Islam. The most severe persecutions have occurred in Iran, where over 200 Bahá'ís were executed between 1978 and 1998,and in Egypt. More recently, in the later months of 2005, an intensive anti-Bahá'í campaign was conducted by Iranian newspapers and radio stations. The state-run and influential Kayhan newspaper, whose managing editor is appointed by Iran's supreme leader, Ayatollah Khamenei [1], ran nearly three dozen articles defaming the Bahá'í Faith. The rights of Bahá'ís have been restricted to greater or lesser extents in numerous other countries, including Afghanistan, Indonesia, Iraq, Morocco, and several countries in sub-Saharan Africa. Shia The dispute over the right successor to Muhammad resulted in the formation of two main sects, the Sunni and the Shia. The Sunni, or "followers of the way," followed the caliphate and maintained the premise that any devout Muslim could potentially become the successor to Muhammad if accepted by his peers. The Shia, however, maintain that only the person selected by God and announced by the Prophet could become his successor; thus, Ali became the religious authority for the Shia people. Militarily established and holding control over the Umayyad government, many Sunni rulers perceived the Shia as a threat – both to their political and religious authority. Christians In 1842 Assyrians living in the mountains of Hakkari in south east Anatolia faced a massive unprovoked attack from Ottoman forces and Kurdish irregulars, which resulted in the death of tens of thousands of unarmed Christian Assyrians. The Young Turks government of the collapsing Ottoman Empire in 1915 persecuted Christian populations in Anatolia, Persia and Northern Mesopotamia. The onslaught by the Ottoman army, including Kurdish and Circassian irregulars resulting in an estimated 2.1 million deaths, divided between roughly 1.2 Million Armenian Christians, 0.75 million Assyrians and 0.3 million Greek Orthodox Christians, a number of Georgians were also killed. The Genocide led to the devastation of ancient indigenous Christian peoples who had existed in the region for thousands of years Jews Traditionally Jews living in Muslim lands, known as dhimmis, were allowed to practice their religion and to administer their internal affairs but subject to certain conditions.[8] They had to pay the jizya (a per capita tax imposed on free adult non-Muslim males) to Muslims.[9] Dhimmis had an inferior status under Islamic rule. They had several social and legal disabilities such as prohibitions against bearing arms or giving testimony in courts in cases involving Muslims. Ahmadis The Ahmadis are active translators of the Qur'an and proselytizers for the faith; converts to Islam in many parts of the world first discover Islam through the Ahmadis. However, in many Islamic countries the Ahmadis have been defined as heretics and non-Muslim and subjected to persecution and often systematic oppression. For more http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_minority_Muslim_groups |
Re: Why Do Muslim Dominated Countries Discrminate Against Their Minorities by LagosShia: 12:45am On Feb 08, 2012 |
@brentkruge do you know that Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and Sayyed Hassan Nasrallah are both Shia? so why did the OP post their pictures alongside an infamous face from boko haram and bin laden? for the bahais in Iran,there are political reasons they are banned in Iran.their relations with Israel is unwelcomed by the iranian authorities.like i keep saying,everyone is free to believe as he pleases and worship within his private walls whom he pleases.the problem happens when politics come into play and people want to use their religious image or identity for political gains or scoring points.otherwise,only those who are persecuted in their places of worship or in their houses plainly for praying as they wish should be seen as victims of religious persecution.other than that no one really knows what you believe in your heart. as for the attacks in pakistan against the Shia,it is wahhabism again at play and saudi petro-dollars for terrorist groups and takfiris. |
Re: Why Do Muslim Dominated Countries Discrminate Against Their Minorities by deols(f): 7:29pm On Feb 08, 2012 |
@ op, u sound like one of those fed drunk by the mainstream media. You probably are not aware of -chechnya and russia -India and the kashmirs -china and the Uyghurs. of course the above are under reported since, they do not help propagate islamophobia. Nigerian christians, stop acting like puppets. Open your ears, eyes, and allow your brains for in the end,it is each to his own. |
Re: Why Do Muslim Dominated Countries Discrminate Against Their Minorities by brentkruge: 11:38pm On Feb 08, 2012 |
LagosShia: I agree with you. I dont understand what the OP intended with the pictures. for the bahais in Iran,there are political reasons they are banned in Iran.their relations with Israel is unwelcomed by the Iranian authorities.like i keep saying,everyone is free to believe as he pleases and worship within his private walls whom he pleases.the problem happens when politics come into play and people want to use their religious image or identity for political gains or scoring points.otherwise,only those who are persecuted in their places of worship or in their houses plainly for praying as they wish should be seen as victims of religious persecution.other than that no one really knows what you believe in your heart. I disagree with you. The Bahais were driven to set up camp in Israel by the Iranians themselves in the first place. Persecution is persecution. Let EACH Bahai be punished for any proven crime (if that is Iranian law), but to deny Bahais education, welfare and justice BECAUSE they are Bahai's and have headquarters in Israel is VERY WRONG. Aren't there Arab/Muslim Israelis? Why are Jews in Iran treated BETTER than Bahai's when logically they are more likely to sabotage Iran? Is just like what you have been saying that terrorist behavior of a few should not be used to judge Muslims. Its the same here. as for the attacks in pakistan against the Shia,it is wahhabism again at play and saudi petro-dollars for terrorist groups and takfiris. I agree with you that the Shia in Pakistan are an endangered people like other minority religions in that country |
Re: Why Do Muslim Dominated Countries Discrminate Against Their Minorities by brentkruge: 11:46pm On Feb 08, 2012 |
deols: Nobody is denying these others. But the topic under consideration is clear and specific. Why not open a thread and discuss Chechnya, Kashmir or Uyghurs yourself? |
Re: Why Do Muslim Dominated Countries Discrminate Against Their Minorities by maclatunji: 9:24am On Feb 09, 2012 |
Ile-Ife: OP, did you post this topic in this section or did one of the moderators move it here? My reason for asking this question is simple: if you have made-up your mind about what you think the generality of Muslims are and what we do. Of what use is whatever we say to you here? |
Re: Why Do Muslim Dominated Countries Discrminate Against Their Minorities by LagosShia: 8:30pm On Feb 09, 2012 |
brentkruge: so when did the "descrimination" against Bahais in Iran took effect? can you remind us? and why exactly? in the case of the Bahais it is quite different from the Muslim generality.the bahais have a central leadership that tells its adherents what to do and what not to do.it is just like the Jehovah's witnesses (in christianity) with the Watch Tower as its governing body and in leadership role.no Jehovah's witness is a Jehovah's witness if they disagree or go again the smallest word of the watch tower organization in brooklyn.the watch tower organization ins brooklyn is "God's organization" to Jehovah's witnesses and it is a "prophetic body" on earth. so likewise,with the administrative center of the bahais centered in Haifa, Israel,the adherents have to follow what their leadership say and the "fatwas" they issue.also as the saying goes,he who pays the piper dictates the tune.Israel isn't hosting the bahais because of israel's wonderful record in human rights and freedom of religion.after all the arab muslims who have israeli citizenship are discriminated against and treated badly.so why would israel want to offer support to another minority that is discriminated against if it does not suit its own project and plans? common sense!!! as for the muslim generality,there is no single leadership position in the muslim world.there are collective roles taken by scholars and religious authorities but no single authority exists.for instance,opposing Bin Laden does not make me less a muslim.but if the Prophet Muhammad (sa) or the 12th Imam (ajtfs) were present today and they back Bin Laden,then directly all muslims must support bin laden.but nothing like that exists.afterall in the Quran itself those who obey the Prophet (sa) and those "entrusted with authority" (i.e. the 12 Imams (a.s.) are obeying God.the Quran puts the obedience to the Prophet (sa) and the "Ulil-Amr" parallel with obdience to God's authority because those men are viewed as divinely chosen and inspired who cannot go contrary to God's command to disobey Him.therefore God is ordering us to follow those who would not mislead us and this verse alone by default tells us that the men who represent God on earth Islamically are infallible or spiritually guided against sin and error. Holy Quran 4:59 "O you who believe! obey Allah and obey the Messenger and those in authority from among you; then if you quarrel about anything, refer it to Allah and the Messenger, if you believe in Allah and the last day; this is better and very good in the end". |
Re: Why Do Muslim Dominated Countries Discrminate Against Their Minorities by BetaThings: 3:34am On Feb 16, 2012 |
brentkruge: Since you are interested in discrimination, you should be fair minded enough to open that thread Afterall discrimination is discrimination, no matter who practises it. If one bothers you, all should And please include the burning of "herectics" by the christians for religious purposes in that new thread The treatment of muslims and jews in the hands of Prince Ferdinand of Aragon and Princess Isabella of Castile should also not be left out |
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