parrotibaba:


This was ur question right?


Do you agree that Sir Rednose only managed 4 world class players?

Now the fact that I do not agree that he managed only four world class players doesn't mean that I also disagrees with the four he listed. You don't always agree 100% with ppl but it doesn't mean that they r also 100% wrong. For example if Mr A says that Marianna is a very beautiful girl n goes ahead to say that all her sisters r also very beautiful n Mr B agrees with the former but not the later, does that now imply that Mr A is 100% wrong in his assertions?

SAF; " I managed only 4 world class players throughout my coaching career"

Nihilist; "Do you agree with SAF that he managed only four world class players in his career"?

Parrotibaba; "Absolutely not! he also managed so n so players who were also world class.


Does this in any way imply that Parrotibaba doesn't believe that the four players SAF listed weren't world class players?

You don't agree with Ferguson's opinion that he only managed 4 world class players.

So you don't consider it infallible. If he can get the concept of a world class player wrong according to you, then how can you use his assertion that giggs was world class to back your own?

This thing is actually very simple.

SailorXY:
this one na philosophy oga. SAF would never include Stam, Ruud & Beckham of course.. we all know the man's nature.

I don't even think fergie believe wetin him dey talk,maybe na the ghost writer he employed.

This new trend where people in football just make controversial statement to generate awareness for their new book,is just wrong.

Recently Gerrard threw Benitez under the bus.
Wasn't surprised to see a new autobiography coming out.

Nihilist:


You don't agree with Ferguson's opinion that he only managed 4 world class players.

So you don't consider it infallible. If he can get the concept of a world class player wrong according to you, then how can you use his assertion that giggs was world class to back your own?

This thing is actually very simple.

You confusing yourself. Yes I don't agree that he managed only 4 world class players but that doesn't mean that I do not agree that the 4 players he mentioned r world class. The emphasis here are the number of world class players he managed not his infallibility. SAF is not the only one that has called giggs a world class player, the likes of Nesta n Del pierro also called him world class. That I chose SAF's opinion about the matter doesn't mean that he was the only one saying it, remember I hv been saying it since.

SailorXY:
Many happy returns & prosperity

Thank you God bless

parrotibaba:
You confusing yourself. Yes I don't agree that he managed only 4 world class players but that doesn't mean that I do not agree that the 4 players he mentioned r world class. The emphasis here are the number of world class players he managed not his infallibility. SAF is not the only one that has called giggs a world class player, the likes of Nesta n Del pierro also called him world class. That I chose SAF's opinion about the matter doesn't mean that he was the only one saying it, remember I hv been saying it since.

I can't be doing this. Lad this is too easy to see. Surely you can see what I'm talking about.

You can't predicate your argument on an authority you whose opinion you don't trust completely.

You're only using his opinion of player which matches your own estimations.

It's like an atheist basing his argument on the bible.

In this regard, Ferguson's opinion that Giggs was a world class player cannot be used to buttress your own point, when you don't completely agree with Ferguson on who and who isn't a World Class player.

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MK Dons

Nihilist:


I can't be doing this. Lad this is too easy to see. Surely you can see what I'm talking about.

You can't predicate your argument on an authority you whose opinion you don't trust completely.

You're only using his opinion of player which matches your own estimations.

It's like an atheist basing his argument on the bible.

In this regard, Ferguson's opinion that Giggs was a world class player cannot be used to buttress your own point, when you don't completely agree with Ferguson on who and who isn't a World Class player.

why r u dragging this simple matter for far too long? You asked me if SAF managed only 4 world class players n I said no. How does that now imply that I don't trust his opinion on the world class matter completely? What is this? He said he managed only 4 world class players n I said he managed more than the four he mentioned, what there suggests that I disagree with the four he mentioned? SAF is a football personnel whose opinion is greatly revered in the footballing world so why will I doubt the players he called world class simply because I merely suggested that he managed more world class players than the four he initially mentioned? What is so hard here to comprehend?

Nobody is perfect n I believe he made a mistake in the number of players he listed as the only world class players he managed and not about the players he tagged world class. If u still do not understand then I suggest we end this here.

parrotibaba:
absolutely not! The likes of Schmeichel, Dennis Irvin, Jaap Stam, Nicky butt, Roy Keane, Andy Cole, Mark Hughes, Steve Bruce, Ferdinand, vidic, Garry Neville n even Becks were world class.

LOL

This is hilarious

Dennis irwin, Nicky Butt Gary neville? Did you actually watch these players or you were told ?

Nicky Butt couldnt even comfortably nail a first team shirt at Man utd yet he is world class

So Rooney scored

Party ongoing on Barca thread

raumdeuter:

LOL

This is hilarious

Dennis irwin, Nicky Butt Gary neville? Did you actually watch these players or you were told ?

Nicky Butt couldnt even comfortably nail a first team shirt at Man utd yet he is world class

like I care about ur sentimental opinions. Nicky butt that was a part of the Ferguson small boys that surprised everyone in 1995.

Nicky Butt was not world class.

Iago Aspas the EPL flop is currently dragging the spanish champions all over the place.

Seems the party is on Barca's thread, mk we go drink orijin for there

parrotibaba:
like I care about ur sentimental opinions. Nicky butt that was a part of the Ferguson small boys that surprised everyone in 1995.

So if he was part of fergies small boys nko? Phil Neville too was one of them so he is also world class?

I doubt anyone except you and maybe Pele would call Nicky Butt world class

Like saying Bojan was from La Masia so he was world class

some people wicked sha LMAO
Francis Hall: Who cares about Robert Lewandowski scoring five in 9 minutes - Jon Obi Mikel just passed forward twice in 30 seconds!

raumdeuter:


So if he was part of fergies small boys nko? Phil Neville too was one of them so he is also world class?

I doubt anyone except you and maybe Pele would call Nicky Butt world class

Like saying Bojan was from La Masia so he was world class

OK Nicky butt is not world class! happy now?

Fergie always has an agenda with his statements. At certain points in their United careers Schmeichel, Roy Keane, David Beckham, Rio Ferdinand, Wayne Rooney, Nemanja Vidic, Ruud Van Nistelrooy were world class.
There are reasons why Fergie has a soft spot for the 4 that he mentioned.

Pique has been shocking tonight. Maybe he was thinking about Shakira.

Good to see our favourite fatboy has scored a goal.

afrodoc2:
Fergie always has an agenda with his statements. At certain points in their United careers Schmeichel, Roy Keane, David Beckham, Rio Ferdinand, Wayne Rooney, Nemanja Vidic, Ruud Van Nistelrooy were world class.
There are reasons why Fergie has a soft spot for the 4 that he mentioned.

I agree with Schmeichel, Keane, Scholes, Vidic, Ruud, Stam. Scholes is the only World class English player I would put in the list

Anything short of at least brace in dis match for Rooney is a complete disappointment

Abeg guys how we playing?? I aint watching the match

Wonderful free kick from Pereira!

raumdeuter:


I agree with Schmeichel, Keane, Scholes, Vidic, Ruud, Stam. Scholes is the only World class English player I would put in the list

I know you go always go against the English players. Rio was definitely world class whether you like it or not....Becks was also in the middle part of his United career.

Martial!!!! Wetin? Where them bring you from, abeg go you too sabi

Martial again!

afrodoc2:


I know you go always go against the English players. Rio was definitely world class whether you like it or not....Becks was also in the middle part of his United career.

You know Scholes is probably even more English looking than all of them and he is the only player I would have at bayern even in retirement

Rio was wack he just got his ass covered by a very good Vidic. Becks was a media creation IMO

God bless whoever scouted Martial for united and as for Perreira I reserve my com....infact the boy is a delight to watch , I pray Van gaal give him more chance to showcase his worth

Anthony Martial... dis kid is good

Martial! 4 games, 4 goals. I guess Giroud is still settling into the EPL

If Martial continues lai dis, he could just bounce Giroud off France's Euro team..

They said "Blind can't play CB, Bastian is past it and will underperform, Martial is a panic buy and a huge waste of money". Still waiting for LVG to give a hoot.

They put a ballon d' or clause in Martial's contract, also to score 25 goals in one season.....all this for an 'unproven flop to be" but same cannot be said of the players Chelski, Assnal, Manchester shitty and Looserpool buy