^^^^^^^^^doing this, will lead to THIS:






and will save THIS:

i hope you like this song:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sV2e5vcvcEQ

If we destroy christianity, many aspects of paganism will disappear too!

Atheism will be the last man standing

^^^^^^^^^^^^

NO IT WONT! what the hell is your point

how can the destruction of the murderer result in the destruction of the victim


atheism will only survive in the moral-less west. when the west collapses under the might of the East and the South (Africa), atheism will collapse along with it.

see what a mind can think not to convert/convince but destroy? well you are not going to be the last to imagine it but note this the gates of hell can never, will never prevail over the church.

hisblud: see what a mind can think not to convert/convince but destroy? well you are not going to be the last to imagine it but note this the gates of hell can never, will never prevail over the church.

Ode, your christianity destroyed lives with slavery and genocide. Ignoramus.

logicboy:

Ode, your christianity destroyed lives with slavery and genocide. Ignoramus.

obeying

4. Ensure you call Christians childish degrading names like, pathetic air-heads, pointless God-bother-er's, deluded bible kissers and insult them with statements which include the terms like ignorant, clueless, uneducated. The goal here is to provoke and frustrate the Christian to the point they become angry, then, you can then claim they are a hypocrite for not being 'loving like Jesus.'

12. Use the Christian crusades, the Salem witch hunts, and the Inquisition which happened hundreds of years ago to 'prove' how bad 'religion' is for the world.

https://www.nairaland.com/953832/30-keys-being-effective-atheist

You see yourself

hisblud:

obeying
https://www.nairaland.com/953832/30-keys-being-effective-atheist

You see yourself

So we should forget the evil christianity has done? Well, I am not surprised at your failed thinking

logicboy:


So we should forget the evil christianity has done? Well, I am not surprised at your failed thinking

so also we wont forget what your atheist brethern did to christians too.

hisblud: so also we wont forget what your atheist brethern did to christians too.

are you stu.pid or what atheists have recently grown in history.. [size=16pt]MUMU![/size]

PAGAN 9JA:



are you stu.pid or what atheists have recently grown in history.. [size=16pt]MUMU![/size]

..........But atheists like Stalin and Chiarman Mao persecuted killed christians for their beliefs............in recent history too. Did you know that Fascism is similarly anti-religion as evangelical atheism? Consider Hitler and Mussolini.

PAGAN 9JA:



are you stu.pid or what atheists have recently grown in history.. [size=16pt]MUMU![/size]

hmm the smell of esua but the voice of jacob

@PAGAN 9JA,

So according to you, and your pictures, blowing up churches will lead to developed cities, save money and preserve your traditional rituals. It is from ignorant thinking like this that religious wars start. Besides, how you can combine dancing naked and wearing raffia in the same context with skyscrapers and gold bullion is truly amazing. Don't you know that it is because some missionaries bothered to come and educate your ancestors who were running around naked in the bush that you can even dream of skyscrapers and gold bullion?

Since you are so passionate about your so called Nigerian culture, why don't you walk around the streets dressed in nothing but your loincloth and send us a picture......sorry technology such as cameras, computers and phones are from the "evil whiteman" please stop typing on Nairaland......wait a minute, where did you learn to read and write not to talk of typing? Please unlearn them immediately. Just go back to the bush and chew your chewing-stick and stop being a hypocrite.

Pagan 9ja my foot. Destroy xtianism my other foot.

Go and find something better to do with your life, Mr Nairaland tough guy; destroying xtianism from behind his keyboard.

By the way, your mates in boko haram are displaying their ignorance much better than you are. Please beat them at it, show us a higher level of ignorance and we will probably take you seriously.

Mr_Anony: @PAGAN 9JA,

So according to you, and your pictures, blowing up churches will lead to developed cities, save money and preserve your traditional rituals. It is from ignorant thinking like this that religious wars start. Besides, how you can combine dancing naked and wearing raffia in the same context with skyscrapers and gold bullion is truly amazing. Don't you know that it is because some missionaries bothered to come and educate your ancestors who were running around naked in the bush that you can even dream of skyscrapers and gold bullion?

Since you are so passionate about your so called Nigerian culture, why don't you walk around the streets dressed in nothing but your loincloth and send us a picture......sorry technology such as cameras, computers and phones are from the "evil whiteman" please stop typing on Nairaland......wait a minute, where did you learn to read and write not to talk of typing? Please unlearn them immediately. Just go back to the bush and chew your chewing-stick and stop being a hypocrite.

Pagan 9ja my foot. Destroy xtianism my other foot.

Go and find something better to do with your life, Mr Nairaland tough guy; destroying xtianism from behind his keyboard.

By the way, your mates in boko haram are displaying their ignorance much better than you are. Please beat them at it, show us a higher level of ignorance and we will probably take you seriously.

While Pagan Naija's picture might be too aggressive, his point remains valid. Christianity, if not challenged, will always drive a country backwards. The founders of America reasoned thatthee had to be freedom of and from religion because they realised that a major religion or a major sect of christianity will always bully and try to politically enforce it's views. Read about the establishment clause and Separation of church and state. All developed countries have separation of church and state. Not Nigeria

America also had to go through numerous legal battles with christianity to teach evolution which is science in school and not creationism which is not science. Remember that christianity is a religion and it is not science. What is christianity's business with teaching of science in school? Religion has no business with science and fortunately science won the legal battle. Evolution is taught in public schools and creatonism restricted to only elective bible classes. All developed countries teach evolution. Not Nigeria


You claim that we are hypocrites for saying that white man brought christianity but not complaining about white man's technology. This is an argument out of ignorance. Let me debunk your reasoning;

-technology is not the sole claim of white man. Most people in Nigeria use technology from Asia (Japan, Korea, China) as much or even more than the West. Toyota, Kia are Asian cars. LG,Sharp and Samsung are Asian products.These countries are atheists countries. Remember that.


-christianity, unlike technology, was directly brought by the white man from Britain (Porttuguese came and f4cked off). What makes this matter worse is that Jesus was not likely white- he probably looked Arab. However, we paint Jesus in Nigeria as a white man in our churches.


-christianity, unlike technology came with slavery and colonization. We pay and ask for technology. We didnt ask for christianity or slavery.,



In summary, christianity is a road block on the path enlightenment and the progress of a futuristic civilization. All developed countries are secular. Geez, I wonder why.

Mr_Anony: @PAGAN 9JA,

So according to you, and your pictures, blowing up churches will lead to developed cities, save money and preserve your traditional rituals. It is from ignorant thinking like this that religious wars start. Besides, how you can combine dancing naked and wearing raffia in the same context with skyscrapers and gold bullion is truly amazing. Don't you know that it is because some missionaries bothered to come and educate your ancestors who were running around naked in the bush that you can even dream of skyscrapers and gold bullion?

Since you are so passionate about your so called Nigerian culture, why don't you walk around the streets dressed in nothing but your loincloth and send us a picture......sorry technology such as cameras, computers and phones are from the "evil whiteman" please stop typing on Nairaland......wait a minute, where did you learn to read and write not to talk of typing? Please unlearn them immediately. Just go back to the bush and chew your chewing-stick and stop being a hypocrite.

Pagan 9ja my foot. Destroy xtianism my other foot.

Go and find something better to do with your life, Mr Nairaland tough guy; destroying xtianism from behind his keyboard.

By the way, your mates in boko haram are displaying their ignorance much better than you are. Please beat them at it, show us a higher level of ignorance and we will probably take you seriously.

HAVE YOU EVER BEN TO JAPAN>>>? [size=16pt]THE MOST DEVELOPED COUNTRY IN THE WORLD[/size]?

OVER THERE PEOPLE GO UNCLAD WEARING RAFFIA IN THE MIDST OF SKYSCRAPERS AND GOLD BULLION.


This is Japan for you:









[img]http://3.bp..com/-gkV30ZWvwuE/T07wC6ybEaI/AAAAAAAAAKI/L2Vuk4I9wdE/s1600/Japanese+Festivals.jpg[/img]

[img]http://2.bp..com/_P8wZ_9wdkGk/TJsahYZz7PI/AAAAAAAAKGw/4mn8rTAZsn0/s1600/1593.jpg[/img]





[img]http://2.bp..com/-1dhTfFifz-g/TdZ6CDOXPdI/AAAAAAAACaw/Xs-5zYjoknA/s640/844Y3683.jpg[/img]

I think the real question is this...does practicing Christianity or Islam make someone less of an African? personally I don't think so, but I believe people need to stop being followers in society (stop copying westerners and wanting to be like them when you are an African). Be proud of who you are.

Huli WIg tribesmen in Australia, from Papua New Guinea. [size=16pt]PROUD OF THEIR CULTURE, THEY HAVE COME IN THEIR TRADITIONAL CLOTHES[/size]:

These men are neither poor nor uneductaed. they speak fluent english, like most Papuans. They have just come on a visit to Australia as tourists, from Papua New Guinea:


[img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2b/Huli_Wigman_visit_Cooktown,_Australia_2005.jpg[/img]




(this is in Tokyo)

[size=36pt]Taiwan[/size]:

[img]http://taiwanreview.nat.gov.tw/site/Tr/public/Data/04815544771.jpg[/img]

[img]http://3.bp..com/_rAJe_CypsZs/TU5I6q4vuMI/AAAAAAAAB4I/NzWjyEab1As/s1600/taiwan1.jpg[/img]









[img]http://4.bp..com/-9bDL6mR5FfU/ThE77gNkkLI/AAAAAAAABR8/WJGuizQGt1Q/s1600/DSCF2377.JPG[/img]










[img]http://www.barriere.cc/Schul-Kultour/webimages/taiwan_Mothers%20of%20the%20Rukai%20tribe%20in%20Pingtung%20assist%20their%20daughters%20in%20donning%20traditional%20clothes%20for%20the%20harvest%20festival..jpg[/img]

Thank you, Pagan Naija!

logicboy: Thank you, Pagan Naija!

you are welcome brother. just making a point. .

PAGAN 9JA:


you are welcome brother. just making a point. .

I might not agree with your religion but at least, you are more educated than these fake christians (especially Mr Anony) who are slaves to a religion that is racist towards them. These people forget that what makes a country great is people working together, who are proud of their culture and not subject to a foriegn religion. Most of these christians want everybody to be christians and anything not christain is the devil!

Many of these Nigerian christians do not know the importance of using one's culture to his advanatage. Many Japanese people do not even believe in their pagan shintoism but they dont throw it away. They recognize it as part of their culture and still make painting and art regarding it.

Imbeciles like Mr. Anony like to rush to their churches with the crosses of a zombie white Jesus before recognising the fact that christianity played a good part in destroying their culture. They call pagans devilish when christianity itself is a result of pagan traditions and is a cult following a Jewish zombie who died like a common thief on the cross

Well while I don't agree 100% I do agree with both of you that tradition is important, and that is something Africans should never lose as a people. We must ask ourselves are we mind slaves of Western society (I certainly am not), but are Most Nigerians mind slaves of the West? Religion and Government should NEVER go together because it just does not work. Not everyone practices the same religion and not everyone has the same beliefs.

logicboy:

I might not agree with your religion but at least, you are more educated than these fake christians (especially Mr Anony) who are slaves to a religion that is racist towards them. These people forget that what makes a country great is people working together, who are proud of their culture and not subject to a foriegn religion. Most of these christians want everybody to be christians and anything not christain is the devil!

Many of these Nigerian christians do not know the importance of using one's culture to his advanatage. Many Japanese people do not even believe in their pagan shintoism but they dont throw it away. They recognize it as part of their culture and still make painting and art regarding it.

Imbeciles like Mr. Anony like to rush to their churches with the crosses of a zombie white Jesus before recognising the fact that christianity played a good part in destroying their culture. They call pagans devilish when christianity itself is a result of pagan traditions and is a cult following a Jewish zombie who died like a common thief on the cross

you see logicboy, Pagan religion and culture are inseparable. you must understand that.
some may not believe, yet they must do the rites in order to preserve their identity. it is just how things work. .
it is called duty towards society and towards oneself. just in the same way as an occupation is.

yes you are right about this slowpoke anony.

logicboy:


While Pagan Naija's picture might be too aggressive, his point remains valid. Christianity, if not challenged, will always drive a country backwards. The founders of America reasoned thatthee had to be freedom of and from religion because they realised that a major religion or a major sect of christianity will always bully and try to politically enforce it's views. Read about the establishment clause and Separation of church and state. All developed countries have separation of church and state. Not Nigeria

America also had to go through numerous legal battles with christianity to teach evolution which is science in school and not creationism which is not science. Remember that christianity is a religion and it is not science. What is christianity's business with teaching of science in school? Religion has no business with science and fortunately science won the legal battle. Evolution is taught in public schools and creatonism restricted to only elective bible classes. All developed countries teach evolution. Not Nigeria


You claim that we are hypocrites for saying that white man brought christianity but not complaining about white man's technology. This is an argument out of ignorance. Let me debunk your reasoning;

-technology is not the sole claim of white man. Most people in Nigeria use technology from Asia (Japan, Korea, China) as much or even more than the West. Toyota, Kia are Asian cars. LG,Sharp and Samsung are Asian products.These countries are atheists countries. Remember that.


-christianity, unlike technology, was directly brought by the white man from Britain (Porttuguese came and f4cked off). What makes this matter worse is that Jesus was not likely white- he probably looked Arab. However, we paint Jesus in Nigeria as a white man in our churches.


-christianity, unlike technology came with slavery and colonization. We pay and ask for technology. We didnt ask for christianity or slavery.,



In summary, christianity is a road block on the path enlightenment and the progress of a futuristic civilization. All developed countries are secular. Geez, I wonder why.

mr christian slavery

hisblud: mr christian slavery

Your point sir?

So from your initial pictures, they wiped out christians so they-people you showed above-could develop abi?

hisblud: So from your initial pictures, they wiped out christians so they-people you showed above-could develop abi?

yes. havent you heard the story of how the Early Japanese Shoghunate and other Samurai Chiefs treated the missionaries LIKE DOGS!

[size=32pt]THEY WERE KICKED OUT OF JAPAN LIKE DOGS! [/size]


The Japanese realised the potential threat posed by missionaries to Japans progress and development. In fact, by the time of WWII, Japan was the only Asian country to be on equal terms as a part of the World War, on the side of the Axis.

THE JAPANESE ARE ONE OF THE CLEVEREST RACES ON THIS PLANET. I SALUT THEM!


[img]http://eastdailyoffice.files./2012/02/martyrsofjapan-killed-by-tagosama-640.jpg[/img]

In the above picture, the Daimyo/Samurai Lord Toyotomi Hideyoshi's orders have crucified 26 christian missionaries. The scoundrels were then pierced through with spears.


The Great Daimyo, Toyotomi Hideyoshi. .


After the first landing of Portuguese sailors in Japan in 1542, Christian proselyting led by Francisco Xavier started. In the following decades, many thousands of Japanese, including some princes' families, converted to Roman Catholicism in the form known as Kirishitan with the cooperation of the central government forming at that time.

Toyotomi Hideyoshi formally expelled the missionaries from the country in 1587, since he saw the influence of Jesuite, but above all Franciscan, monks as a threat to his position of power. For economic reasons, however, this decree was hardly enforced. Not until 1597, a year before Hideyoshi's death, were 26 Christians crucified (Martyrs of Nagasaki).

Hideyoshi's successor Tokugawa Ieyasu initially was tolerant because he profited from trade with the Portuguese, and probably also by the influence of his British consultant Williams Adams. But after Adams' death and after trade relations with Holland and England had had come into existence (by which also the conflict between Roman Catholic Christianity and Protestantism became known in Japan), he changed his attitude. The reason for this was the fear of Christian faith wars in Japan and the cognition that many Christians show greater loyalty among themselves and for the church than for him, the Shōgun. From about, 1612 Christianity was gradually prohibited.

This development reached its highlight under Ieyasu's successors Tokugawa Hidetada and Tokugawa Iemitsu, particularly after the predominantly Christian population of Kyūshū had risen in the Shimabara Rebellion against the shogunate in 1637. The uprising was crushed brutally; more than 40,000 Christians were killed. Authorities of persecution were set up, with the goal of a nationwide persecution and extermination of the Christians. Anyone who was suspected of being a Christian had to abandon Christianity publicly and dishonor Christian symbols, which were called 踏み絵 (fumie, "step-on picture'", as well as register in the Buddhist register of faith of Buddhist temples and visit those regularly. Those who refused to abandon their Christian faith were executed, often through public crucifixion or incineration.


after these incidents, christianity never dared raise its head towards [size=16pt]The Land Of The Rising Sun[/size].


[img]http://robingorsline.files./2011/03/land-of-the-rising-sun.jpg[/img]

See ojuju calabar.....

Paganboy don't tell me u worship those weird looking objects...lol

PAGAN 9JA:


yes. havent you heard the story of how the Early Japanese Shoghunate and other Samurai Chiefs treated the missionaries LIKE DOGS!

[size=32pt]THEY WERE KICKED OUT OF JAPAN LIKE DOGS! [/size]


The Japanese realised the potential threat posed by missionaries to Japans progress and development. In fact, by the time of WWII, Japan was the only Asian country to be on equal terms as a part of the World War, on the side of the Axis.

THE JAPANESE ARE ONE OF THE CLEVEREST RACES ON THIS PLANET. I SALUT THEM!


[img]http://eastdailyoffice.files./2012/02/martyrsofjapan-killed-by-tagosama-640.jpg[/img]

In the above picture, the Daimyo/Samurai Lord Toyotomi Hideyoshi's orders have crucified 26 christian missionaries. The scoundrels were then pierced through with spears.


The Great Daimyo, Toyotomi Hideyoshi. .


After the first landing of Portuguese sailors in Japan in 1542, Christian proselyting led by Francisco Xavier started. In the following decades, many thousands of Japanese, including some princes' families, converted to Roman Catholicism in the form known as Kirishitan with the cooperation of the central government forming at that time.

Toyotomi Hideyoshi formally expelled the missionaries from the country in 1587, since he saw the influence of Jesuite, but above all Franciscan, monks as a threat to his position of power. For economic reasons, however, this decree was hardly enforced. Not until 1597, a year before Hideyoshi's death, were 26 Christians crucified (Martyrs of Nagasaki).

Hideyoshi's successor Tokugawa Ieyasu initially was tolerant because he profited from trade with the Portuguese, and probably also by the influence of his British consultant Williams Adams. But after Adams' death and after trade relations with Holland and England had had come into existence (by which also the conflict between Roman Catholic Christianity and Protestantism became known in Japan), he changed his attitude. The reason for this was the fear of Christian faith wars in Japan and the cognition that many Christians show greater loyalty among themselves and for the church than for him, the Shōgun. From about, 1612 Christianity was gradually prohibited.

This development reached its highlight under Ieyasu's successors Tokugawa Hidetada and Tokugawa Iemitsu, particularly after the predominantly Christian population of Kyūshū had risen in the Shimabara Rebellion against the shogunate in 1637. The uprising was crushed brutally; more than 40,000 Christians were killed. Authorities of persecution were set up, with the goal of a nationwide persecution and extermination of the Christians. Anyone who was suspected of being a Christian had to abandon Christianity publicly and dishonor Christian symbols, which were called 踏み絵 (fumie, "step-on picture'", as well as register in the Buddhist register of faith of Buddhist temples and visit those regularly. Those who refused to abandon their Christian faith were executed, often through public crucifixion or incineration.


after these incidents, christianity never dared raise its head towards [size=16pt]The Land Of The Rising Sun[/size].


[img]http://robingorsline.files./2011/03/land-of-the-rising-sun.jpg[/img]

I want you to carefully examine what it is that you are promoting and and honestly ask yourself what the difference is between your thinking and that of the terrorists who blew up a church in Abuja, killing many in cold blood on Christmas day, 2011. May God forgive you.

logicboy:


While Pagan Naija's picture might be too aggressive, his point remains valid. Christianity, if not challenged, will always drive a country backwards. The founders of America reasoned thatthee had to be freedom of and from religion because they realised that a major religion or a major sect of christianity will always bully and try to politically enforce it's views. Read about the establishment clause and Separation of church and state. All developed countries have separation of church and state. Not Nigeria

America also had to go through numerous legal battles with christianity to teach evolution which is science in school and not creationism which is not science. Remember that christianity is a religion and it is not science. What is christianity's business with teaching of science in school? Religion has no business with science and fortunately science won the legal battle. Evolution is taught in public schools and creatonism restricted to only elective bible classes. All developed countries teach evolution. Not Nigeria


You claim that we are hypocrites for saying that white man brought christianity but not complaining about white man's technology. This is an argument out of ignorance. Let me debunk your reasoning;

-technology is not the sole claim of white man. Most people in Nigeria use technology from Asia (Japan, Korea, China) as much or even more than the West. Toyota, Kia are Asian cars. LG,Sharp and Samsung are Asian products.These countries are atheists countries. Remember that.


-christianity, unlike technology, was directly brought by the white man from Britain (Porttuguese came and f4cked off). What makes this matter worse is that Jesus was not likely white- he probably looked Arab. However, we paint Jesus in Nigeria as a white man in our churches.


-christianity, unlike technology came with slavery and colonization. We pay and ask for technology. We didnt ask for christianity or slavery.,



In summary, christianity is a road block on the path enlightenment and the progress of a futuristic civilization. All developed countries are secular. Geez, I wonder why.

logicboy:

I might not agree with your religion but at least, you are more educated than these fake christians (especially Mr Anony) who are slaves to a religion that is racist towards them. These people forget that what makes a country great is people working together, who are proud of their culture and not subject to a foriegn religion. Most of these christians want everybody to be christians and anything not christain is the devil!

Many of these Nigerian christians do not know the importance of using one's culture to his advanatage. Many Japanese people do not even believe in their pagan shintoism but they dont throw it away. They recognize it as part of their culture and still make painting and art regarding it.

Imbeciles like Mr. Anony like to rush to their churches with the crosses of a zombie white Jesus before recognising the fact that christianity played a good part in destroying their culture. They call pagans devilish when christianity itself is a result of pagan traditions and is a cult following a Jewish zombie who died like a common thief on the cross

My friend logicboy, you have to realize that not everything is a debate. Yes we may have our differences concerning God but then a time comes when we have to lay that aside and condemn evil when we see it.

Are you so full of hate for christianity that you would throw in your lot with someone who believes that burning down churches and killing christians is the way forward?

Rather than condemn Pagan9ja's hateful speech for what it is, you would rather side with him not necessarily because you agree with him but just so that you can fight on the anti-christian side.

I thought that you were much better than this, I must confess that reading your posts here makes me lose respect for you in no small way.

Mr_Anony:



My friend logicboy, you have to realize that not everything is a debate. Yes we may have our differences concerning God but then a time comes when we have to lay that aside and condemn evil when we see it.

Are you so full of hate for christianity that you would throw in your lot with someone who believes that burning down churches and killing christians is the way forward?

Rather than condemn Pagan9ja's hateful speech for what it is, you would rather side with him not necessarily because you agree with him but just so that you can fight on the anti-christian side.

I thought that you were much better than this, I must confess that reading your posts here makes me lose respect for you in no small way.

You are a perfect example of an immoral and hypocritical christian. Nice try to play the innocent victim here.

1) I clearly said that Pagan Naija's picture is aggressive
2) You and I both know that Pagan Naija is not a terrorist and is not really asking for the murder of christians.
3) You on the other hand readily accept the slavery of your people supported by christianity- 12 million black slaves.
4) Pagan Naija's overall point is true, we need to rid our country of both christianity and islam. Not trough murder but by effective campaigns of reasoning and logic