Goshen360: In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness [was] upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. And God said, Let there be light: and there was light. Gen. 1:1-3 Kjv

Some even say/believe/teach that a "Gap Theory" existed between Gen.1:1-2 and Gen.1:3-End of Creation. What saith the scriptures in both cases? Is it true that God created the light first and did gap exist between Gen.1:1-2 and Gen.1:3-End of God's creation?

Fr0sbel: [size=14pt]1 Timothy 1:4 nor to devote themselves to myths and endless genealogies. These promote controversies rather than God's work--which is by faith.[/size]

Goshen360:

So what am doing doesn't teach or edify God's people Why are you in a haste to jump to conclusion You and I have been studying some stuffs lately right?

Joel.:
The first light was the Sun in Gen1:3 and the secound lights in Gen 1:14 were stars and moon, To control and rule it seasons.

I told you that creation before first day or Light, cannot be counted. And yes there are alot gap in creation things before Light

Fr0sbel:

Okay , I guess the caffeine is buzzing my brain

rhemaplus: Yes, there is a gap btw Gen 1 n 2. In isaiah or Jeremiah, (i'm nt sure wch nw), d bible says when i created heavens n earth, it wasnt creatd empty or void, so how did d earth alone becm void? D likeable explanatx is dat it was d devil dat brought darknes to d earth.
D light in 1:3 isnt Sun but a personality, dat is why it was capitalised in kjv as Day. D likely explanatx is dat d Day is Jesus or smthx 4rm Him since Jn 1 says in Him was light n d light was d life of men. God was looking 4 a person to perpetuate d light so dat d earth wil nt be void again hence d light as temporary. It was Adam God expected to later stabilise d earth.

rhemaplus:
Yes, there is a gap btw Gen 1 n 2. In isaiah or Jeremiah, (i'm nt sure wch nw), d bible says when i created heavens n earth, it wasnt creatd empty or void, so how did d earth alone becm void?

rhemaplus:

so how did d earth alone becm void? D likeable explanatx is dat it was d devil dat brought darknes to d earth.

rhemaplus:
D light in 1:3 isnt Sun but a personality, dat is why it was capitalised in kjv as Day. D likely explanatx is dat d Day is Jesus or smthx 4rm Him since Jn 1 says in Him was light n d light was d life of men. God was looking 4 a person to perpetuate d light so dat d earth wil nt be void again hence d light as temporary. It was Adam God expected to later stabilise d earth.

Joel.:
u are talking nonesense

Joel.:
I ve told u before Gen 1:3-5 is the sun. Read good news bible for second creation. GEN 1-6. And in science the Sun is the powerful force or gravity that hold and govern the solar system, what is solar system if i may ask u?. Its the enegy force that control all things in universe to funtion in their orbit. The sun is life. Without the sun the planets will be froozen, and the universe will be none and void, which it were before the sun came in. A blind me will know which come first.

Joel.:
GDN 1:3 Goshen if i may ask how old are u? U wan't to start another silly argument again, The Sun is the only star that rule or give light to universe. Its the only light that the earth account to. The earth rotate before the sun 24 hours which make it a day. The earth goes around it orbit in cycle 366 days a year. Maybe u are talking of another light and if there is in the scripture, i will stop believe the bible becos even if the earth rotate and no sun it's not a day because its darkness and dateless. Maybe what is confusing u is that when it was initially created is wasn't named sun. It was after the moon and the stars that it was called Sun

Joel.:
Why asking of darkness. Ok let me ask u where did God Come from? The word day is Sun. The bible is that book that contradict. What happen about when peter say Jesus was hang on a tree

Joel.:
GDN 1:3 Goshen if i may ask how old are u? U wan't to start another silly argument again,

Goshen360: Joel,


Now to help you out a little bit, the darkness in Gen.1:2 WHERE DID IT COME FROM BEFORE THE HOVERING OF THE HOLY SPIRIT?

Goshen360: Okay my sister. I am NOT always available on weekends. You will only notice me active on Nairaland on weekdays. Okay.

I would have love to do an intensive exposition but I guess I don't have much time. I will only say the answers to both questions plus some other useful hints and leave other brethren to search it out or do more studies on it.

1. When we study the text of Genesis and the creation, there are three basic word we MUST understand namely: create, form and make/made. To create is to bring into existence OUT of NOTHING and ONLY God is the subject of create/creation as ONLY God can create. To form/made is to bring into existence from ALREADY existing material(s)/thing(s). With this in mind, we can rightly break down some concept of Genesis and the Creation.

2. The "in the beginning" of Gen 1:1 is NOT the same as the "in the beginning" of John 1:1. Same phrase but different meaning. John 1:1 is dateless past, Gen.1:1 is a dated past. John 1:1 is eternal, Gen 1:1 is earthly as it records the creation of the earth/our present world.

3. Gen 1:2 says: "And the earth was without form, and void". This means the original state the earth was created was "formless" and "void or empty" and the basic general duty of the creative account is for God to give "form" to the earth and also "fill" the emptiness. Basically, day 1-3 are the days God gave "form" to the earth and day 4-6 are days that God "filled" the earth in order to take away the "formless" and "void". Okay. We have to also use our "imagination" when referring to the beginning of creation. Why? Because the was the earth is right now is not the original way it was "first" created. So we need our "imagination" to picture the realm of God's creation in the first original state, probably to understand the text.

3b. Again, Gen 1:2 says: "and darkness [was] upon the face of the deep". Here we see darkness upon the face of the deep. Two quick observation here. What kind of darkness is it and where did it come from and what is the deep? I have read and heard many people say this darkness is as a result of Satan being thrown down to the earth and so on and forth Well, I don't think this is true! Let's allow the Bible to answer for itself. The answer is in the book of Job. Let's not forget the book of Job was also written in the time of Genesis, that before the law. Okay. Job 38:1,4,9 (But we can read from verse 1-10, for smooth understanding. However, my emphasis is on verses 1,4 and 9).

So we see from verse 9 that this darkness came as a result of thick cloud and darkness swaddling the first original state of the earth. This darkness is NOT satan, it is a dark state the earth was first created. Again, we see "upon the face of the deep". Some translations have "face" as "surface". This means the "deep" and "darkness" came together. So what is the deep? It is simple WATER. The deep is the primordial waters that was FIRST created by God which the darkness came with as a result of absence of light. If it is NOT waters, then the next sentence will NOT read: "And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters". Therefore, the water was created first, otherwise, the Spirit will NOT have moved on the face of the waters. To confirm this, lets support with more bible verse.

But they deliberately forget that long ago by God's word the heavens existed and the earth was formed out of water and by water. 2 Peter 3:5 niv.

So what did God created first (e be like say I dey type too long stories as if i wan re-write the creation account,lolz), God created WATER first. No wonder the first miracle of Jesus was also on water. First person to walk on water because He created the water and the creation is not greater than the creator.

4. Gen 1:3 then says, "And God said, Let there be light: and there was light". What light is this? It is NOT and CANNOT be Christ for John 1:1 already told us Christ existed in eternity before the beginning and also, the light is NOT capitalized "l" which means it is NOT Christ. Very simple, since we have a primordial darkness with the water, it important for God as to want to take away this darkness. How did God do that? By "calling light to be or appear". What light is it and where did it come from? This light is from God himself and God is the source of this light and it came by His word, "let there be" for the Bible tells us that God Himself is light, 1 John 1:5 and so is His word, Psalm 119:105. So when God said, let there be light, this light "produced" or "appeared" from God Himself. James 1:17 calls God "father of lights". This is the "light" that is a source to the sun, moon and stars. God then use this light to make what He called day and night. Apostle Paul puts it clearer, comparing our "heart" to the "dark deep state of the original earth". Look at this:

For God, who said, "Let light shine out of darkness," made his light shine in our hearts to give us the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Christ. 2 Cor. 4:6 niv

5. On the first day God used "light" that emanated from Him to make "day and night", and on the fourth day He made "sun, moon, and the stars" to give "light" to the earth. What was the purpose of the sun and the moon and star? Was it to create day and night? No, that was already done on the first day. The sun, the moon and the stars were meant to rule the day and night that already existed. They were made: For signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years, Gen.1:14. So what we see is, God being the source of "light" can shut/open to/from the luminaries.

Goshen360: Okay my sister. I am NOT always available on weekends. You will only notice me active on Nairaland on weekdays. Okay.

I would have love to do an intensive exposition but I guess I don't have much time. I will only say the answers to both questions plus some other useful hints and leave other brethren to search it out or do more studies on it.

1. When we study the text of Genesis and the creation, there are three basic word we MUST understand namely: create, form and make/made. To create is to bring into existence OUT of NOTHING and ONLY God is the subject of create/creation as ONLY God can create. To form/made is to bring into existence from ALREADY existing material(s)/thing(s). With this in mind, we can rightly break down some concept of Genesis and the Creation.

2. The "in the beginning" of Gen 1:1 is NOT the same as the "in the beginning" of John 1:1. Same phrase but different meaning. John 1:1 is dateless past, Gen.1:1 is a dated past. John 1:1 is eternal, Gen 1:1 is earthly as it records the creation of the earth/our present world.

3. Gen 1:2 says: "And the earth was without form, and void". This means the original state the earth was created was "formless" and "void or empty" and the basic general duty of the creative account is for God to give "form" to the earth and also "fill" the emptiness. Basically, day 1-3 are the days God gave "form" to the earth and day 4-6 are days that God "filled" the earth in order to take away the "formless" and "void". Okay. We have to also use our "imagination" when referring to the beginning of creation. Why? Because the was the earth is right now is not the original way it was "first" created. So we need our "imagination" to picture the realm of God's creation in the first original state, probably to understand the text.

3b. Again, Gen 1:2 says: "and darkness [was] upon the face of the deep". Here we see darkness upon the face of the deep. Two quick observation here. What kind of darkness is it and where did it come from and what is the deep? I have read and heard many people say this darkness is as a result of Satan being thrown down to the earth and so on and forth Well, I don't think this is true! Let's allow the Bible to answer for itself. The answer is in the book of Job. Let's not forget the book of Job was also written in the time of Genesis, that before the law. Okay. Job 38:1,4,9 (But we can read from verse 1-10, for smooth understanding. However, my emphasis is on verses 1,4 and 9).

So we see from verse 9 that this darkness came as a result of thick cloud and darkness swaddling the first original state of the earth. This darkness is NOT satan, it is a dark state the earth was first created. Again, we see "upon the face of the deep". Some translations have "face" as "surface". This means the "deep" and "darkness" came together. So what is the deep? It is simple WATER. The deep is the primordial waters that was FIRST created by God which the darkness came with as a result of absence of light. If it is NOT waters, then the next sentence will NOT read: "And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters". Therefore, the water was created first, otherwise, the Spirit will NOT have moved on the face of the waters. To confirm this, lets support with more bible verse.

But they deliberately forget that long ago by God's word the heavens existed and the earth was formed out of water and by water. 2 Peter 3:5 niv.

So what did God created first (e be like say I dey type too long stories as if i wan re-write the creation account,lolz), God created WATER first. No wonder the first miracle of Jesus was also on water. First person to walk on water because He created the water and the creation is not greater than the creator.

4. Gen 1:3 then says, "And God said, Let there be light: and there was light". What light is this? It is NOT and CANNOT be Christ for John 1:1 already told us Christ existed in eternity before the beginning and also, the light is NOT capitalized "l" which means it is NOT Christ. Very simple, since we have a primordial darkness with the water, it important for God as to want to take away this darkness. How did God do that? By "calling light to be or appear". What light is it and where did it come from? This light is from God himself and God is the source of this light and it came by His word, "let there be" for the Bible tells us that God Himself is light, 1 John 1:5 and so is His word, Psalm 119:105. So when God said, let there be light, this light "produced" or "appeared" from God Himself. James 1:17 calls God "father of lights". This is the "light" that is a source to the sun, moon and stars. God then use this light to make what He called day and night. Apostle Paul puts it clearer, comparing our "heart" to the "dark deep state of the original earth". Look at this:

For God, who said, "Let light shine out of darkness," made his light shine in our hearts to give us the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Christ. 2 Cor. 4:6 niv

5. On the first day God used "light" that emanated from Him to make "day and night", and on the fourth day He made "sun, moon, and the stars" to give "light" to the earth. What was the purpose of the sun and the moon and star? Was it to create day and night? No, that was already done on the first day. The sun, the moon and the stars were meant to rule the day and night that already existed. They were made: For signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years, Gen.1:14. So what we see is, God being the source of "light" can shut/open to/from the luminaries.