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Computers / Re: Broken Laptop Screen, Help. by Debroslink: 11:17pm On Apr 18
newazuka: Pls nl, how much will it cost me to change my laptop Screen, Hp pavilion dv6 . Thank you
Brother, If u go know your way around computer village, u can do it for less than 10k. I use the same laptop and did mine with 8K.
European Soccer / Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Debroslink: 12:48pm On Apr 16
coogar:

copa 97



messi hasn't won anything for argentina senior team. ronaldo has won 3 golden boots for barca, real madrid & psv.

ronaldo won the best player on the planet due to his contribution for club(psv & barca). brazil didn't win anything major in those years so your analogy is incorrect!
3 golden boots without CL and 1 league title in 15 years is d same as u-20 world cup and Olympic medals. He didn't really achieve the main trophies. Please don't mention UEFA cups and Copa del rey. They are not d main trophies. Get d message bro.
European Soccer / Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Debroslink: 12:43pm On Apr 16
coogar:

copa 97
Let Messi retire, then we'll judge.
European Soccer / Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Debroslink: 12:40pm On Apr 16
coogar:

at 19, de lima was the highest goal scorer in the dutch league. messi has not achieved anything for argentina's senior team.

ronaldo de lima has achieved a lot wherever he's played club or country. the moment messi isn't wearing barca shirt, he's not better than danny welbeck.

that's the difference here.
no comparison, ronaldo de lima is greater than messi. the next world cup is messi's last chance. he would be 31 in 2018 and his window of opportunity might have closed by then.
Truth is, De Lima is to Brazil what Messi is to Barca. And De Lima is to club football, what Messi is to Argentina.
World cup and Copa America is to international football just like League titles and CL is to club football.
De Lima spent more than 14 years in Europe. How many league titles and CLs did he win?
When Messi retires, we can then give a detailed comparison.
European Soccer / Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Debroslink: 12:36pm On Apr 16
4llerbuntu:


it appears u have english comprehension problems.


this was the question :
"what has messi won without xavi & iniesta for a senior team?"


please answer directly.
The same thing as what De Lima won for d senoir team without Rivaldo.
European Soccer / Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Debroslink: 12:28pm On Apr 16
coogar:

age-grade competitions are not a senior team achievement. under 20, under 23 are age-grade competitions. no one reckons with that.

messi singlehandedly took who to the final of copa 2007? the same tournament juan riquelme scored 5 goals & messi scored 2 goals? oh my gosh - see as you dey lie to distort facts.

messi was a passenger in that tournament. he scored the same number of goals as mascherano - a defensive midfielder.
Whether it's age grade or not, it's still an achievement. At least that was the tournament that brought out great players such as Maradona.
Did u see d goal against Mexico @ d semifinal? No 19 years old has scored that since then.
European Soccer / Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Debroslink: 12:14pm On Apr 16
coogar:

ronaldo's career had been marred by injuries even before rivaldo retired. de lima won pichichi for madrid. was rivaldo a madrid player? was rivaldo a barca player in 96/97 when de lima won the pichichi?

i said mention one thing messi has won without xaviesta?
Where was Xaviesta when Messi won d golden boot and golden ball in u-20?
Where was Xaviesta when Messi single handedly took Argentina to d final in Copa 2007 at age 19?
In d last 6 years, Messi has more goals and ASSISTS than Xaviesta combined and any other player in world football.
Messi has provided assists to Xaviesta than Xaviesta to Messi.
Oh... Messi has Olympic medal. Xaviesta don't.
And if Messi wins d world cup this summer, @ least this Xaviesta noise will be buried for life.
European Soccer / Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Debroslink: 12:03pm On Apr 16
elampiro:

How? CR7 has less team support until this season. Messi has had greater team mates all these years.

CR7 has proven himself in two clubs and leagues. Doing well in less star star studded national team.

CR7 carries his team more, work more in matches by dropping deep, run more kilometers every single match.
Bro, I'm not through with De Lima yet. At least he's obviously far better than cr7. When I start with cr7, you'll agree with me that he's not even worthy to be mentioned with Messi both @ club and country.
European Soccer / Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Debroslink: 12:00pm On Apr 16
coogar:

ronaldo de lima won the pichichi twice at barca & madrid in 96/97 & 03/04 seasons respectively. he didn't have rivaldo in the team.

he won the highest goal scorer in the dutch league also in 94/95. he was 18/19 then, there was no rivaldo too. ronaldo won the best player in 98 world cup tournament - there was no rivaldo in the team.

what has messi won without xavi & iniesta for a senior team?
U didn't answer the question. I said what did De Lima achieve FOR BRAZIL AFTER Rivaldo retired? Mind u, Rivaldo played all Brazil's matches@ France 98.
European Soccer / Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Debroslink: 11:47am On Apr 16
StarBoard:
Rivaldo also helped at Ronnie's first season at Barca, or at PSV or at REal Madrid.
I'm just curious, maybe they can answer that as well.
And how many league titles did De Lima win in all his 14 years of club football?
European Soccer / Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Debroslink: 11:44am On Apr 16
coogar:

maybe rivaldo also helped him at confed cup in 97 when ronaldo tore australia a new one. rivaldo also helped him in copa 97 too. see excuses here & there.

we are saying messi hasn't won anything without xaviesta & elampiro is comparing to rivaldo's contribution in 2002. what about the other gazillion things ronaldo has won without rivaldo?
And what did Ronaldo achieve for Brazil after Rivaldo retired?
European Soccer / Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Debroslink: 11:33am On Apr 16
StarBoard:
Where does Messi fit into this? grin
Messi is a GOAT.
European Soccer / Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Debroslink: 11:30am On Apr 16
JayKayMaybachz: Abeg which level what has messsi done dat cr7 has never done ?
Like winning something for Portugal even if it is u-17. Please don't start what u can't stop. Let d sleeping dog lie peacefully.
European Soccer / Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Debroslink: 11:26am On Apr 16
coogar:

kanu has what argentina doesn't have. the under-17 cup is also a holy grail argentina is struggling to win.

so kanu is greater than messi? grin

Lol grin
Aliyah of Ghana who won d golden boot in u-20 world cup has what Nigeria sees as a holy grail. He's definitely better than Okocha. grin grin
European Soccer / Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Debroslink: 11:15am On Apr 16
coogar:

because we cheated! pure & simple!
you think without the new laws since 92, nigeria & cameroon would have succeeded?

how come african teams only do well in age grade competitions but get mortally destroyed in football competitons where age is not restricted?

because african teams are notorious age cheats. grin
OK let's leave naija out of this. Point is Messi has what Brazil doesn't.
European Soccer / Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Debroslink: 11:13am On Apr 16
JayKayMaybachz: This is the same ish i hVe been saying....like in cr7 case....who has excelled in both leagues he played....messi overhyped....i prefer cr7
Please don't bring cr7 into this. He has not even reached Messi's level.
European Soccer / Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Debroslink: 11:09am On Apr 16
coogar:

olympic football is an age-grade competition. olympic is an under 23 football competition with an allowance of 3 overage players.

i reiterate, messi is shyte for national team. olympic medal my foot!
Yet, u ran wild with excitement when Nigeria won it. Brazil still seek this medal as an holy grail.
European Soccer / Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Debroslink: 11:04am On Apr 16
coogar:

none of them won anything of note for their respective national teams. they only did it for their clubs. they are in the same category.

ronaldo de lima won for club & country.
messi won for club & zero for country.
I disagree. Messi has Olympic medal for his country. That's the missing piece in Brazil right now.
European Soccer / Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Debroslink: 11:03am On Apr 16
coded01:

Can someone tell me Drogba is better than George weah? Please! grin grin grin
Paste this in Chelsea thread and see whether they will not eat u.
European Soccer / Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Debroslink: 10:56am On Apr 16
Torres has won the world cup and Euros. He even won d CL. Then he's better than Messi. Isn't he?
European Soccer / Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Debroslink: 10:37am On Apr 16
coogar:

were rivaldo & dinho at madrid? inter? were they at PSV & barcelona when ronaldo won FIFA player at age 20 & 21?

@ Madrid, he had Zidane and Figo. @ barca, he had Guardiola, Hristo and Luis Enrique. But u have a point sha ooh. Messi never left Barca. But technically, in all these clubs De Lima has been to, he won d league title just once and never won the CL. I mean from 1995-2008. 14 good years. What a pity.
European Soccer / Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Debroslink: 10:31am On Apr 16
Purist:

They're all C. Ronaldo fan boys who haven't got over the fact that he doesn't play for us anymore. So anything to spite Messi, his eternal nemesis. grin grin
Bro, u have said it all.
European Soccer / Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Debroslink: 10:27am On Apr 16
coogar:

don't mind the pro-messi camp!
they give messi all the glory forgetting the contribution of xaviesta. if emenike plays at barcelona, he would score 50 goals per season.

xaviesta played strikerless for spain & they still beat many teams. they nearly made fabregas(a midfielder) the top scorer at the last euros. torres won golden boot as a substitute player.
Didn't De Lima win the world cup and Copa America with Rivaldo and Ronaldinho? Former world's best players? U guys are talking as if De Lima won it single handedly

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European Soccer / Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Debroslink: 10:22am On Apr 16
larride: Whoever said we are hyping De Lima, are we talking about the same De Lima that scored 30 goals in his first season at PSV at age 18, or the one that scored 47 goals in 49 appearances for Barcelona in his first season? The same De Lima that played for both Inter n Ac Milan, Real Madrid and Barcelona Anybody that says we are hyping De Lima needs to go watch his footage.
Now that's great. But Messi has raised the bar. No player has ever scored 50 league goals in one season. Messi achieved that in 36 games. Now that's legendary.

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European Soccer / Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Debroslink: 10:13am On Apr 16
coogar:

messi is overhyped!!
if he doesn't win a world cup, he's no legend. i have more respect for rudi voeller or jurgen klinsmann sef.

messi is only good in the barca shirt. a team that was built with world class talents. did de lima or maradona have xavi, iniesta equivalents in their team?
Like I said, the only thing Due Lima has over Messi is international football. But talking about clubs, De Lima had some of d greatest midfielders supplying him. In Barca, he had Guardiola, Hristo and Laudrup.
European Soccer / Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Debroslink: 10:08am On Apr 16
coogar:

how come no other player has achieved it since de lima?

de lima won FIFA player twice in a row at 20 & 21. where was messi at 20/21?

please go to youtube & watch ronaldo @ barcelona. bobby robson(his manager) used to hold his head in shock that how can a striker be this good.

messi only scores goals - ronaldo humiliates defenders & goalies before scoring. without his injuries that took him out for about 2-3 seasons, he would have won 5 best player awards.
Well, no one has scored a hat trick against Real Madrid since then either. And I believe Madrid is greater than Man united any time any day.
Messiah won ballon d'or @ age 21,22,22,24. 4 times in a row. Can u beat that? Messi has always been in d top 2 players since he was 20. He has NEVER gone below the top 2 ballon d'or for 7 years in a row. That's awesome.
Messi does not always score goals, he has the highest number of goals and ASSISTS in world football for the past 5 years. De Lima has very few assists.

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European Soccer / Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Debroslink: 9:55am On Apr 16
coogar:

macheda would score 40 goals per season for barcelona. the team had the top 5 best players in the world between 2009-2013. how come messi becomes danny welbeck when he plays for argentina?

how many international tournaments' golden boot has messi won? even the copa america his country hosted was a disaster. de lima scored goals for fun for brazil. it doesn't matter which team he played. he destroyed goalies. any striker that can score a hatrick @ old trafford and the whole 70,000 fans stood to applaud is a legend.


And what's so special about scoring hat trick @ old Trafford? Didn't Messi score a hat trick against Real Madrid without PK @ age 19?
European Soccer / Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Debroslink: 9:46am On Apr 16
Dadehmola: One was a natural center foward, the other is not- why the comparism? undecided
Yeah, De Lima excelled in just one position (no 9), Messi has excelled in 4 positions (no 7,9 10 and 11).

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European Soccer / Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Debroslink: 9:45am On Apr 16
Dadehmola: One was a natural center foward, the other is not- why the comparism? undecided
European Soccer / Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Debroslink: 9:42am On Apr 16
The only reason De Lima is better than Messi is international football. If u bring club football into this, Messi is better.

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European Soccer / Re: UEFA Champions League Semi-final Draw On 11th April 2014 by Debroslink: 4:59pm On Apr 11
ezelous: There is nothing absolute to fear. In 2009/2010, Chelsea won 4-0 and drew 2-2 home and away. History matters a lot. moreover, d super cup victory was due to d unfamiliarity among d players.
That one naa story. Lemme tell u that Messi scored 20 goals in 14 games against Atletico Madrid before Simeone took over. And when he did, Messi has not scored a goal in 6 matches. What does that tell u? Atletico is stronger than 2009 season.

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European Soccer / Re: UEFA Champions League Semi-final Draw On 11th April 2014 by Debroslink: 4:52pm On Apr 11
JANK23H:

Also Jose did not lose to Simeone when he was in spain,he won his games against athletico.
Really? Know your facts before spewing trash. Simeone defeated Mourinho at his backyard to win the Copa Del Rey last season.
Atletico Madrid made Mourinho go trophy less last season.

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