Please nairalanders allow me to express my inner state of mind about the crucial stress the fresh graduate are facing

1. The first is the issue of HND and Bsc ,some companies are not even considering the HND graduate while the few once that gives them audience still humiliate them in terms of salary ,since the so call federal govt can not do anything to bridge this gap i think they should scrab the polytechnics so they will not be producing graduate that will not be accepted by the employment society .

2.  My second point is about the recruitment process by this so call multi- national companies . They will put you under a very stressful various test and interview at the end they will employ 10% out of 100%.imagine PZ conducting 7 apt test with several interview ,the fact is that i don't what they are looking for ,also the last BAT apt test was held in Zaria (KADUNA) imagine the huge amount of transport fair for people that are  not staying close to kaduna ,just for an apt test which you can not guarantee your self of interview

3.The third issue is about what i call MODERN SLAVE TRADE by the agent and the consulting firm ,they will get you employment but all to their merit collecting 20% of your salary what a grate injustice

4. my fourth issue is about what i heard few days ago that Nigeria Police Force is asking people to by scratch card before you can apply ,please if govt parastatals like common police is asking people to buy scratch card then what do they expect the non-govt parastatals to be doing to us.

5.  My fifth issue is about grade,HND upper credit and Bsc 2.1 ,but to me i don't think this is a  good yard stick to judge the best among the graduate because i belief in competency rather than certificate .

In conclusion please do we have NLC at all in this country if yes what is their function is it to go on strike for increment in salary or to cater for both employed and un-employ citizen .

Lastly if any body have a senator as an uncle or aunt please tell them to stop argument on 7 POINT AGENDA and look in to our matters. because THE WAY DEN THEY RUN THINGS 4 THIS COUNTRY ME I NO GBADUN.,

@ poster,
If u're an HND holder and u 're carrying anyfn below UPPER CREDIT Certificate about.Na OYO U dey.ok?

Upper Credit OYO? I have Distinction and I am still roaming the street for job. I pray something happen soon. Desperate is an understatement for me now.

It's quite unfortunate but considering the fact that Nigeria is ranked among the third world countries, these are anticipated. We can only pray for things to get better.
Unfortunately, first degree has been reduced to nothing because the Bsc/Hnd is everywhere. there is nothing spectacular about it. Market women, truck pushers are all doing part-time courses in order to get a degree. It's only advisable for you to gun for an advance/professional course to put you on track. As much as possible, you must make yourself sellable(an asset rather than a liabilty to companies) but sincerely there must be a start point for fresh graduates.

@ poster: Employment in nigeria is becoming crazy as we all know. the gist reaching us here is that the highest employer of labour in niga (THE BANKS) are even planning on downsizing. so employers will use all form of methods to screen people for interviews.

As for the HND thing i think the govt. should convert or scrap polythecnics since there are no job placement after graduation.

I believe before you can be judge based on competent you must produce a certificate.

who told you NLC or the lawmakers are fighting on behave of the citizens ? i beg they are there for their own selfish reasons.

BEST OF LUCK IN YOUR JOB SEARCH IF YOU ARE STILL UNEMPLOYED.

The situation in the Nigerian employment market is bad like the poster rightly pointed out.
Agreed. I think the best employment is self employment. People should now think of what they can do on their own more than what others can do for them.
Also, as a seller on the employment market (employers are the buyers), one need to develop himself to an extent that you will become a hot cake for the buyers. Wishing all our fresh graduates all the best!

I wonder what the discrimination is all about. In Ghana there r just 2 Universities, others are mere colleges and the discrimination is not much there.
I dont think Polytechnic is that bad, at least I've met a University Degree holder who could not spell "graduate"

Na only God fit help graduates for dis nigeria oooo,as for me i get hnd(upper credit)but na my ond i dey use wuk.

The problem we graduate are facing is from most of us, we have had it in mind that after school we will start working in one of the big companies in 9ja, no one ever think of been self imployed, atleast bring out the best in us and serve others. The most great men were not student, but at the end they imployed student and pay them monthly. for example, 2face Idibia, Dbanj, Timaya and others are living comfortably and well known than even so called graduate. so let try to pick the best in us and maximize it, than waiting for oil companies.

Pls i just want to ask a question.why are HND holders undrated in the labour market.

@ poster
my own about wetin den dey do pass "nko gbadun",  me i dey VEX sef

amamgbo:

Pls i just want to ask a question.why are HND holders undrated in the labour market.

It simply because there are few jobs out there. Even Bsc is like NECO nowadays.

@jumbosci
bros its not all graduates' fault,  I will pass 90% of the blame to our _{bunch of useless individual Govt}

Who says graduates cannot cultivate and do all sort of FARMING. If boys are encouraged by anyone who cares, a lot of them will pick up hoe & what have you and do a lot on the farm land if food and shelter are provided.

Already guys are picking up jobs in places where salary is not certain. I know of a micro finance bank who only pays you a % of your target ONLY if you are able to meet it.

The same micro finance bank i heard, asked a staff to go and find a customer who would fix 1million naira before anoda customer, who at that time, had a fixed deposit can liquidate his own( PONZI in the making).

I do not blame our graduate for solely depending on paid employment,  reason ? Its the most viable option.
Many have great IDEAS,  but without fuel, no car can run on its sophisticated engines


It is a pity we have rogues and crooks at the helm of affairs in our nation. How can one pray to GOD to protect one's home when the LANDLORD is an ARMED ROBBER

Every day we hear sickening news about looting, missappropriation and all sort of corruption by very few people in a country of around 200 million, and no one can help save the future of our unborn generation.

In UK, law makers were accused of exessive expenses(some as low as 20 pounds) and it was taken serious. I could not help but cry inside of me that this is not a crime in Nija.

GOD BLESS ALL THE VICTIMS OF YAR ADUA & CO

JAH CURSE DEM PAPA DEM MAMA wey no make us gbadun

When I read through "Gettolove" short note he replied on Niaraland, I couldn't control myself. Somethinf got inside of me and I started crying for all Nigerian masses especially the graduates amidst us.
Babba GOD shuld to our rescue (Amen)
Uhn!!!,

i no b graduate >>>>> still a fresher
>>>>, but d topic make sense>>> why discriminate HND/OND holdas
well my advice >>> HUSTLE YOUR OWN >>> na d way foward->->->->->

Gettolove:

How can one pray to GOD to protect one's home when the LANDLORD is an ARMED ROBBER.

This is the exact situation in Nigeria. . . . very scary

God help us.

jumbochi:

The problem we graduate are facing is from most of us, we have had it in mind that after school we will start working in one of the big companies in 9ja, no one ever think of been self imployed, atleast bring out the best in us and serve others. The most great men were not student, but at the end they imployed student and pay them monthly. for example, 2face Idibia, Dbanj, Timaya and others are living comfortably and well known than even so called graduate. so let try to pick the best in us and maximize it, than waiting for oil companies.

It is not a crime to dream big especially as students. During my University days, I had that dream and so many graduates do. Who doesn't want to work with those be companies you mentioned. You can dream but waking up to reality is very essential and that is where a lot of undergraduates get trapped. Most graduates are still leaving in the dream world and unfortunately before most of them wake up to reality, a lot of years has been wasted.
@ poster
The NLC is in charge of labour as much as they might be toothless, they have little or nothing they can do to help unmployed graduates. It's sad and disheartening.
A lot of people even working today, earn salaries that can only take care of their feeding and transport so at the end of the month, they have nothing to themselves. They leave their homes because they can't just be idle. We pray God to take control because apart from God's intervention, the other way out is a revolution.

ON OND/HND ISSUE
If you are discriminated as a result of it, you are not meant to be there, because I've seen people who just have some qualification other than a University/Polythecnic qualification and they are working in big establishments. When your time comes, your employer will employ you because you have thjat qualification with you and that's xactly what he needs. Don't forget we have employers of labour who are also HND graduates.

, and not everybody is destined to be a business man or woman. That's why you see a lot of people who have been forced to go into private business and theyve been struggling and suffering for ages.

Just pray for favor and luck to be at the right place at the right time . . . and please NEVER GIVE UP ON YOUR DREAMS even if your have to step to the side for a while.

Simple solution ' BE CREATIVE'. Dont just sit there writing application. There are over 1M people looking for less than 2,000 jobs available daily. There is a very slim chance of picking a job. Just try come up with some ideas. There are over 150 million people in Nigeria. These people have needs. Find out what people need, provide a solution to that, u r made, simple. Nigeria is a large market. I made over a million doing the American visa lottery just because i went into digital passport photography when things got so bad. Even the digital passport thing surprised everyone around me. some said they never knew people need passport photos like that. Now am stepping up into something else, just because i refused to insist on looking for job. Just try something, when it works,please dont fail to hala me o. You might just end up becoming an employer rather than an unemployed. starting something wipes out the HND/BSC issue. It answers all your questions. God bless u as u try.

What a wicked and painful world. May God help us all, Amen

@ Oleigh
Are you male or female?
Anyway good thinking from you. Graduates shouldnt wait for a job befitting their qualification, Use your OND or WAEC to start any job, remember, you need to start building on your work experience in preparation for future opportunities soon after graduation. Dont just give up and blame the system because that wont make up for the damages, You'all knew how the system was before you gained admission and one would have thought studing a course that is capable of making you self employed would be the way to go, although that would also be difficult without a start up capital.
Even if it is teaching in a private primary sch in your neighbourhood no matter how small the income is as long as you dont have to pay transport to and fro, the most important thing is ur work history. Sadly enough no body seem to understand the importance of a good work history. Even is America lack of good work history means you are relegated to the bottom with little or no chance of being successful at ur interview.
Never give-up because opportunities will come to you, it is just a matter of when and how prepared you will be when it come.

I believe the govt is not doing things the way it should be done, the original idea of setting up polytechnics was to develop technically inclined minds into independent and self sustaining individuals in other words to help them think deeper and clearer. Those studying technical courses e.g computer engineering, Mech Eng, Elect Eng. etc should be given start-up loans/capital to enable them set up their personal workshop and become employers of labor.

Isn't it obvious why the poster has not been able to pass any of the aptitude tests? His use of English leaves a lot to be desired. Yes, he may "belief in competency rather than certificate", but he needs to prove that he actually studied for the certificate first.

Hello peeps, i'm also aware that things are rough in our obodo naija, but then i believe opportunities keep smiling at us on a daily basis.
For instance, how come guys always find babes to toast on a daily basis (face to face, trial & error with phone nos, phone nos from radio programs, on buses and even queues)? without being certain that the babe would gel or not they give it a shot all in the name of fun.
Similarly, i believe job opportunities abound out there (not necessarily with the multi-nationals).

My Point: 1. what would you like life to be like for you when you're 60yrs?
                2. what would you like life to be like for your kids?
                3.  where do you need to be and doing what in the next 3yrs to be on the way to the answers to 1 & 2 above?
                4. What do you know about the finance and business world? whether you like it or not, there's a business side to every job or discipline.

i think i'd stop here for now.
just my 2 cents with much luv.

Having read some of the comments  on this thread(especially the beginning part), it's quite ironic how poor the tenses are while questions are being asked about the quality of certificates in Nigerian Institutions.

Please get a good education if you can and not cruise through school hoping that your shortcuts will go
undetected.
Please mind your tenses as i'm sure other countries read these threads.
(pidgin na pidgin but attempts to use english should be well orchestrated.)
Goodluck

una don dey turn dis post into english palava

Unemployment is not just peculiar in Nigeria, but also in the USA

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WASHINGTON – Students scattering for the summer are worried they'll be graduating from schools of higher learning only to find themselves snagged in the school of hard knocks.

That's what happened to Josh Donahue, 23, who went on food stamps two weeks after leaving Oregon State University with an economics degree that he hoped to use for a job as a financial analyst. He's living with his aunt and uncle in Grants Pass, Ore., and looking for even a menial job.

"It feels like really, really bad, terrible timing," he says. "A degree in economics doesn't really prepare you to understand the economy very well."

Timing is much on the minds of students as they size up their opportunities in the worst economy their generation has known, an AP-mtvU poll at 40 college campuses finds. Young men and women are anxious not only about their finances and job prospects after graduation, but about the pressures facing parents, normally the rock of their existence.

Nearly one in five polled students reported that at least one parent had lost a job in the past year.

Many young people are taking refuge in graduate school, buying time until the economy improves even as they amass more debt from student loans. But others who hoped to go to grad school have had to defer it because of the expense.

At George Mason University in Fairfax, Va., systems engineering junior Adrian Solomon, 21, of Virginia Beach, Va., said his mother, who is single and raising his 16-year-old sister as well as a foster child, is "trying to support me sometimes, when I need it."

At other times Mom has asked him for money, and "I would do what I can to help her out."

Jake Lear, 21, of Warrenton, Va., a digital arts major at George Mason, worked three jobs at a time through the past semester and is doing one of them full-time this summer — a resident adviser helping to look after freshmen in dorms — because he gets free housing. His parents work for a federal contractor that shrank its work force and eliminated 401(k) matching contributions. The school is in suburban northern Virginia outside Washington.

"I'm pretty much independent as far as school goes," Lear said. "Where they would normally help me out with cash here and there they don't so much any more, just because money's so tight."

For all the apprehension, there's also a lot of determination and spirit. Students don't expect an easy ride through college and seem to believe their education will pay off — eventually.

Buchi Akpati is a sleep-deprived but irrepressible 18-year-old from Woodbridge, Va., who juggled three jobs at once through the past semester — one online, another at the gym and another as a beauty consultant. Her days have been unfolding like this, once she gets out of bed between 8 a.m. and 11 a.m.:

"I go to class, study in between class, go to work, study at work, go to my other job, Mary Kay, do some facials, sell some products, study in between, go back to my dorm, study and eat at the same time, work online at the same time, study afterward from like 2 to 6 a.m., then sleep, and then wake up and do the same thing."

She is majoring in "biology, pre-medicine, with a splash of Spanish" and adding two summer classes to her workload. "I never get any sleep," she said brightly. "That's the thing."

The poll explored matters of money and mind, surveying students on financial pressures, job possibilities, stress and depression. Among the findings on the economy:

_22 percent of students said they worry a lot about having enough cash to get through a typical week at school, and more — fully one-third — said they really worry about the finances of their parents.

_Nearly one in five changed plans this year and decided to attend graduate or professional school after college because an undergraduate degree might not be enough to get them a job.

_11 percent of those whose parents lost a job veered away from grad school because they could not afford it. They were twice as likely to avoid grad school as those whose parents did not lose a job. Job loss in the family also made twice as many students consider dropping out — 27 percent. Overall, nearly one in five considered quitting school.

_32 percent said financial worries have a lot of impact on the stress they're under, up from 27 percent last spring.

Nervousness is apparent on campuses, even in the midst of post-exam relief. So, however, is resilience.

Instead of being discouraged by the 29 applications for summer internships he sent off without response, Larry Robertson is pumped about the one that is landing him an interview.

"I HAVE to get a job," he said. Living at home in Washington, where he devotes Fridays and other times to looking after his grandmother, he's been commuting up to four hours a day to George Mason and scrimping at every turn as he prepares for law school. He'll graduate in December with a major in sociology and a minor in anthropology.

"I don't buy clothes," Robertson said. "I don't shop. I stay at home, I don't go out. I have a very strict academic life.

"I really try to prepare enough so that I'm not stressed out with money. That's the last thing you need to be stressed out by when you're in school."

Corwin Burton, a sophomore at the University of Maryland, also on the Washington outskirts, gave up his apartment and moved back home when the tips dropped off at the bar he tends. Studying nano-engineering, he's confident the economy will rebound by the time he gets out of grad school.

"It always does," he said. "It's nowhere near bad enough to think that the country's going to explode and fail. The economy naturally cycles. I've studied enough economics to know that. It goes up, it goes back down."

In Grants Pass, Donahue wonders when it's going to go up.

He regrets stretching his bachelor of science in economics over five years, thinking he'd be in the financial sector by now if he'd finished school in four. Given the turmoil in that sector, however, it's questionable whether an entry job would still be there.

Sharing his $200 a month in food stamps with his aunt and uncle in lieu of rent, he's applying for work as a delivery man, a hotel clerk, a bank teller and a white-collar job in the insurance industry. He's planning on going to law school.

"Having a college degree and having to ask other people for help is not a funny thing," he said. "It's a little demoralizing."

Still, faith persists in the value of an education as a career builder, and a temporary shelter from the outside world.

Lear gets the occasional "panic-inducing thought" that capitalism itself is unraveling, a scary prospect with graduation ahead of him in December. "Right now, it's the only thing to do," he said of schooling. "There's always grad school and I'm not afraid of more education."

Then there's the laser focus of Robertson, on track to become a public advocacy lawyer.

"I've made up my mind about what I'm going to do and so I'm going to do it," he states. "If I have to endure some challenges and struggle a little bit, that's fine. If it's going to take me some extra time, I want those credentials, it's really important, so I'm going to do it."

The poll was conducted April 22 to May 4 by Edison Media Research and involved interviews with 2,240 undergraduate students aged 18-24 at four-year colleges. To protect privacy, the schools where the poll was conducted are not being identified, the students who responded were not asked for their names, and people interviewed for this story were not part of the survey. The poll has a margin of sampling error of plus or minus 3 percentage points.

The TV network mtvU is operated by the MTV Networks division of Viacom and available at many colleges. MtvU's sponsorship of the poll is related to its mental-health campaign "Half of Us," which it runs with the Jed Foundation, a nonprofit group that works to reduce suicide among young people.

___

AP Polling Director Trevor Tompson, AP Television Producer Faryl Ury and Multimedia Editor Kevin Vineys contributed to this report.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090519/ap_on_go_ot/us_college_poll_economy

I have been waiting to come across this kind of topic on Nairaland. I know most of the problems fresh graduates are facing have deep roots in bad governance by our leaders. The Nigerian Government is grossly inept and has failed to implement good policies that will change the lives of the citizenry. It is only in Nigeria that there is discrimination between University and Polytechnic certificates. In Germany, you dont need to be a university graduate to live a good life. The German Government has a system of education in place that separates people into different classes as they grow up. Youngsters who love to read are painstakingly guided to the university level [ Gymnasium ] while those with technical skills are prepared for vocational careers [ Hauptschule ]. Every one gets to live a comfortable life at the end of the day.

However, I feel fresh graduates have to take their destinies into their hands. Time is very precious and they need to start thinking of how to to be employers of labour. God has deposited gifts and creative abilities in all of us. If we can use the creativity in us, we won't be looking for jobs all the time. The richest men in the world today, decided at an early age to be self employed. Nigeria is a virgin land for those who can dare to dream. A lot of opportunities abound in Nigeria. Fresh Graduates only need to sit down and think of what they can do to make money from other people. I know a lot of infrastructure is not on ground in Nigeria, but  a lot of money can still be made by courageous graduates. I don't want to beat about the bush. I have 7 business ideas for Fresh Graduates. I believe these ideas can work if they are strictly adhered to. And they dont need much capital to start with. Here we go-

1. Catering Services: If you're good at making cakes, chin-chin, doughnuts and other small chops, this is an opportunity for you to make good money and be financially independent. You can start this business with 10-20,000 Naira or less than that. You will need to package your food products well. One of the mistakes people make is that one just needs to make the refreshments and put them in a show glass infront of a shop or in a supermarket. You wont sell much using that method. You will need to take your products to the buyers or potential customers. How will you do this? You have to create awareness about your snacks by designing some promotional materials like leaflets and Information Packs [ just 2 pages ]. Your promotional material should be colourful and very catchy. Pictures of the snacks should be on the leaflets with your phone numbers, website or blog/ email address. The leaflets and promotional materials can be handed out to your church members and at Public places. If the leaflets are well designed and colourful, they wont be thrown away by those you hand them to. You can go to Private schools in your area and drop the leaflets. One thing I will assure you is this: If you're good at making snacks, you will have a lot of clients. Do some research about Leaflets on the internet.

2. Dancing Classes and Martial Arts Workshops: If you can beat Michael Jackson on the dancefloor or defeat Jet Li in a shaolin contest, why don't you use your skills to earn a living? You'll be surprised that there are many teenagers and youths out there who want to learn how to dance or develop fighting skills. All you need to do is to get out some promotional materials to the public. Make sure your Leaflets and catalogues are well designed with your contact details on them. You don't need to spens a fortune on advertising. Start with direct marketing through leaflets and flyers. Go to secondary schools and universities and hand them over to students there. Don't charge outrageous fees. Charge moderately. Some parents are looking for what to engage their children with especially on Saturdays and during the holidays. As the business grows, you can start a small website with photos of your classes on it. There are free web hosting sites online e.g 4t.com, 8m.net etc. Dont forget that Facebook, Bebo, Hi5 and Myspace can be used to enhance your promotional materials. Start thinking, graduate.

3. Leaflet/Flyer Distribution Business: Are you a good graphic Artist? Do you know how to use the computer to design things? Do you have a way with words? Can you write good copy? Then you can start a Flyer and Leaflet Distribution Business. I have seen so many badly designed flyers and Posters in Nigeria. Nigeria has not yet woken up to the power of Leaflet Distribution. Direct Marketing is the key today. TV and Radio adverts are ephemeral in nature. Leaflets can spend years in people's homes if they are catchy and well designed. A lot of resources for your Flyer design business can be found online. You will need to approach schools and businesses in your area and other nearby places and tell them the benefits of advertising directly to their potential customers. Design dummy leaflets and show them to the business owners. If you can convince them that their slaes will be boosted, they will patronize you. Then you have to hire distributors to deliver the leaflets into people's homes or hand them to people on the streets. You will need to pay the distributors. Use secondary school youngsters for a start. You won't need to pay them much.

I have other ideas for businesses that can be started by Fresh graduates in Nigeria, but lack of time will not allow me to type them all out here. I'm thinking of writing a book about them and doing more research on other ideas and aspects of marketing. One thing I've noticed is that a good number of Nigerian graduates have been programmed to always look for jobs. I'm not against job hunting but it is good to start something on our own. Dont wait for government loans or bank loans. Start small and be very creative. Use the power of the internet and direct marketing to your advantage.

I'm giving these ideas freely and if you want more information on any of them, send me an email at: tolukandi@yahoo.com

I will endeavour to give you more information and direct you to links online. I won't ask you for any money. Just trying to help out. Cheers.

1. The first is the issue of HND and Bsc ,some companies are not even considering the HND graduate while the few once that gives them audience still humiliate them in terms of salary ,since the so call federal govt can not do anything to bridge this gap i think they should scrab the polytechnics so they will not be producing graduate that will not be accepted by the employment society .

It is not up to the government to determine whether YOU will go to the polytechnic, it is entirely up to you. If you know that employers aren't looking at HND holders then don't go to a polytechnic. The government can't do everything for us.

2. My second point is about the recruitment process by this so call multi- national companies . They will put you under a very stressful various test and interview at the end they will employ 10% out of 100%.imagine PZ conducting 7 apt test with several interview ,the fact is that i don't what they are looking for ,also the last BAT apt test was held in Zaria (KADUNA) imagine the huge amount of transport fair for people that are not staying close to kaduna ,just for an apt test which you can not guarantee your self of interview

lolol please stop bitching. Step up your game. If you can't handle it then let someone else handle it. By the way it is the same way around the world. Imagine having classes monday thru friday and then having to leave school to go for a one week interview, and that's just round one of the interviews. You get to miss one week of school and your professors will not cut you any slack and you need to pass that class to graduate so you can work in that place.

3.The third issue is about what i call MODERN SLAVE TRADE by the agent and the consulting firm ,they will get you employment but all to their merit collecting 20% of your salary what a grate injustice

You don't need a consulting firm to get you a job, get off your arse and job hunt on your own.

5. My fifth issue is about grade,HND upper credit and Bsc 2.1 ,but to me i don't think this is a good yard stick to judge the best among the graduate because i belief in competency rather than certificate .

The only way they can check your competency right now as a fresh graduate is through your certificate.

Lastly if any body have a senator as an uncle or aunt please tell them to stop argument on 7 POINT AGENDA and look in to our matters. because THE WAY DEN THEY RUN THINGS 4 THIS COUNTRY ME I NO GBADUN.,

This post has absolutely nothing to do with the government. It is not the governments job to get you a job, that is entirely your responsibility not theirs. Nothing you posted has anything to do with the govt.

Get over it and find a job, it is your responsibility not the govts.

Being a former British Colony


Nigeria tends to model herself on British ways of doing things and sometimes tries to incorporate American ways which can confuse alot of things in our society.  Afterall, America was once a British colony - Just like us, Britain gave them independence.  So, in terms of education, there ain't many Polytechnics in Britain right now as majority have now taken up University status.  However, British employers still recognises qualifications from former Polytechnics without discriminating between the two since it takes only 6 months or 2 essay submissions to get your degree after your Polytechnic course.  So, there ain't much difference academically.  The difference can only be located in the ability to do the job i.e the skills.  It is at this point that, the  University and Polytechnic graduates would then show us what they are made of.  I can assure you, most of the times the Polytechnics beat the Uni graduates hands down and scope the HONEY!!!!  Trust me!  So, unlike Nigeria, Britain and America now, look for both academic abilities and technical skills.  Also, they don't discriminate against your field of study in terms of employment.  If you'd studied Medicine and decides to be a t.v presenter, that's fine - you'd get a job.  If you'd studied Chemisty and wants to work in finance, you'd definitely be employed in finance e.g. Investment Banking and it does not matter what your discipline or specialty is.  What matters in this two countries are, that you had a higher education experience i.e. POLYTECHNIC OR UNIVERSITY education. As for Britain, you'd work your butts off to get British qualifications and once you get them, they are like INTERNATIONAL PASSPORT TO JOBS ALL OVER THE WORLD - in short, with them you'd get a job any where in the WORLD because you are British educated and you know what that means - HARD WORK!!.  Employers all over the world loves hard working emplyees, dont they??  Therefore, Nigerian educators have to validate seriously Polytechnic qualifications as to clear these doubts and confusions over the qualificatiuons else, close down all Polytechnic colleges since Nigerian employers are not hiring POLYTECHNIC educated graduates.

~Lady~:

It is not up to the government to determine whether YOU will go to the polytechnic, it is entirely up to you. If you know that employers aren't looking at HND holders then don't go to a polytechnic. The government can't do everything for us.

lolol please stop bitching. Step up your game. If you can't handle it then let someone else handle it. By the way it is the same way around the world. Imagine having classes monday thru friday and then having to leave school to go for a one week interview, and that's just round one of the interviews. You get to miss one week of school and your professors will not cut you any slack and you need to pass that class to graduate so you can work in that place.

You don't need a consulting firm to get you a job, get off your arse and job hunt on your own.

The only way they can check your competency right now as a fresh graduate is through your certificate.

This post has absolutely nothing to do with the government. It is not the governments job to get you a job, that is entirely your responsibility not theirs. Nothing you posted has anything to do with the govt.

Get over it and find a job, it is your responsibility not the govts.

Lady, thank you very much.

It is very easy for people to complain and blame every other thing, rather than blaming themselves.
Is it the employer's fault ig I opted for (of did'nt study hard for) a polytechnic, rather than a University?
Or is it government's fault that even though I entered a University I did not graduate with first class or 2.1?
Do I want somebody to employ me for a job that requires a Bsc when I have a Hnd or vice versa?

It is really stupid. The main cause of our problem is and always will be ourselves! We did not study hard in secondary school, then we blame JAMB. We did not study well in University, then we blame Employers and Government.

Nonsense. If we work hard, nobody can take what is ours (See-est thou a man diligent in his work? He shall stand before kings, not mere mortals)

(Case in point. My class rep, when he was in secondary school, he was not serious. As a result, he needed to combine WAEC and NECO to enter school. In university, his eyes opened, and he sat up and started working hard. By the time we were in final year, he was giving us, his own classmates, tutorials, and was the best graduating student with our class with a CGPA of 4.73, All becuase he worked hard).

Work hard, stop complaining, and forget about government and other people. They were not creted just to help you.

Eeyore:

Isn't it obvious why the poster has not been able to pass any of the aptitude tests? His use of English leaves a lot to be desired. Yes, he may "belief in competency rather than certificate", but he needs to prove that he actually studied for the certificate first.

What the heck are you talking about that is a mistake which anybody can make,,,the right word and not use of English should have been "Believe" and not belief.
Barack Obama in his presidential campaign made a lot of mistakes which most 7yrs old would not make in US,,,one of the mistakes is this: he said he had been to 57 states in the US whereas there are just 50 states in the US.
Am sure you too might be one of the GCE and Jamb expos in Naija,,,The poster made very valid points and there is nothing to back up ur point that he did not study for his certificate.
Incase you are in doubt about mistakes an Harvard Graduate check this link: http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/05/barack-obama-wa.html

Eeyore:

Isn't it obvious why the poster has not been able to pass any of the aptitude tests? His use of English leaves a lot to be desired. Yes, he may "belief in competency rather than certificate", but he needs to prove that he actually studied for the certificate first.

why is it that when sen serious issues are raised by someone, there always another person who'll make fun of everything

get real dude & contribute meaningfully or keep shut. your use of English isn't better either

@op
the problem is as a result of too many graduate trying to fill up so little vacancies.
if only the micro finance banks which were set up to help people set up SME's were doing their jobs, things would be a lot better as some people have very bright ideas but no capital

In HR, the smallest detail counts when screening candidates.
Considering the company has to choose from a large pool.

When a graduate spells poorly,
It gives the HR person enough reason to disqualify that application.

So many applicants use 'text language' otherwise known as abbrevations.
Any reputable company seeks to attract the very best.
If only applicants will put in more effort.

Guys,
All I can say is, I was there. I know exactly how you guys feel.
I left school 11 years ago with a 2.2 and no idea of how the job market in Nigeria really was.
It was tough in the beginning, but thank God, breakthrough came after a lot of push and pain.
My advice to you guys is not to look at the difficulties, just get your focus right and be realistic about it.
Entrepreneurship isn't for everybody, though you can look at a few things you can do to make some change on the side, while you sort yourselves out.
One day Nigeria will be better, and it is 100% dependent on us to make that day come sooner than later.
Cheers and all the best.