How do we stop this deadly disease called AIDS? What do you about HIV/AIDS.

Fellow Nigerians we have mentioned AIDS/HIV on this forum at one time or the other but we haven't discussed how to stop this deadly disease, the causes, prevention, ways of spreading or contacting this deadly disease.
NACA put the those that are infected in Nigeria alone at 3.2billion people with youths leading the pack.

Can we educate ourselves on this deadly disease on this forum. Some people still believe there is nothing like AIDS/HIV they argued it was a way of discouraging sex.

What do you think? Can you tell us the Origin of this Disease? What do you know about AIDS?
Let's share experinces over this global burning issue. Western world said "No cure for it yet.

Some traditional health providers said they have the cure, Doctor Abalaka once claimed he had a breakthrough for AIDS/HIV. Is there really a cure?

I hear that it's a western invention!

and is it really true that there is no cure for it? How did Magic Johnson get cured?

How come the spread is so bad in Africa?

Too many questions my brother that make it look like its some kind of plan against africa.

buddy:

I hear that it's a western invention!

and is it really true that there is no cure for it? How did Magic Johnson get cured?

How come the spread is so bad in Africa?

Too many questions my brother that make it look like its some kind of plan against africa.

Sure Buddy is right.I heard it's a cultured virus

Eh He! Pls tell me more.

I really don't know what you guys mean by "western invention" and if you mean HIV came from the white guys, well,...... think again.

HIV's origin is Africa (the rainforests of Congo to be specific) read "Hot Zone" by Preston (I forgot his first name)

and, there's no cure for it. not even the strongest voodoo guy or priest can take it away from you if you're infected. you're stuck with it for the rest of ya short life man.

the reason it's so common in africa is because of our "backwardness?", we don't have the technology, money  e.t.c
and these african parents won't educate their kids about sex. because it's a "sin". sin my ass. (excuse my french)

ABSTINENCE (don't have sex) is the best prevention against STDs. (sexually transmitted diseases)
if you can't do without it , use your .. ......you know what......  
and.......don't do it with prostitutes. they carry a fair share of the disease. and africa has lots of them thanks to proverty.

Please my intelligent member of the nairaland, I want to ask you is HIV/AIDS real?

It was one Saturday evening in my siting room i was watching a program on NTA. there is this doctor, he is the owner of IRISH MEDICAL CENTRE located at Caterpillar bus/stop Ogba, Lagos.

They where interviewing him. So he was asked something about this virus (HIV/AIDS) he said it with boldness that HIV/AIDS IS NOT REAL and if any one said it is real, he should come out openly and proof it and that he is ready to offer 20 million Naira to the person.

So to my suprise up till now, no body has come out to challenge this doctor.

So my dearest friends of Nairaland, is HIV/AIS real? Have you seen with you eyes a victim of HIV/AIDS? How does it look like?

Innocent01,
Let no one deceive you. there is AIDS/HIV. I have seen a victim before and I have treated an Infected person before at Ondo state General Hospital Akure.
So AIDS is real. That was my first time of seeing a victim and at the same time treating him. It's terrible my dear.
When I wanted to up this job I'm doing now, they carried out HIV test though without my consent. When they collected my blood sample I asked if it were to be used for HIV test I wouldn't have accepted who knows I would have lost the job. It was after they sent the results of the test to the office which landed on my hand becos I was to file them into the individuals file. So if it's not real why the test?

AIDS didn't come from Congo. Don't buy that

Greatpeter:

Innocent01,
Let no one deceive you. there is AIDS/HIV. I have seen a victim before and I have treated an Infected person before at Ondo state General Hospital Akure.

You are a medical doctor

I find it baffling that in this age and time some body can come on national TV and say AIDS is not real. How can NTA air such a program? Is that to the benefit of the masses? AIDS is real. As to where it originated, weda Africa, Europe or the moon, it hardly matters cos its killing people in droves. If you doubt, go and see the number of AIDS orphans in Zimbabwe, Zambia,Uganda etc.

Magic Johnson can still be alive cos there are drugs to contain it but they are very expensive and the average Nigerian cannot afford it.

If a so called inventor can say he has a cure, there are procedures for testing and acepting the efficacy of any medical drug. Let him show us the results of such clinical trials and if it stands up to scrutiny, then of course a fortune is to be made. If anyone thinks a babalawo somewhere can cure AIDS, well good luck to him/her.

AIDS is real o!

and that gist about it originating from congo i cant say if its true, maybe someone else will confirm that.

can anyone confirm if magic Johnson is really cured?

Jogego: Magic Johnson can still be alive because there are drugs to contain it but they are very expensive and the average Nigerian cannot afford it.

Thanks for pointing out the crux of the matter.

Hey You.

I read your thread about the HIV/AIDS discussion. I can tell you AIDS is real and it is NOT an African problem. It is worldwide and for example Russia is very threatend by this diffusion of the virus. till now there is no cure, not for Africa, not for Europe or the united states. there are means to suppress the symptoms and if you lead a very healthy life and swallow every day your "cocktail" of a dozen different pills then you can survive a longer time with the virus inside of you. perhaps one day the scientist will find a way to fight the virus directly but the problem is, that it is a mutant. it changes every time find medicine to fight its current attributes...
the belief that aids is a disease as a cold and can be cured is still a dream but this impression raises also in Europe. And this is really dangerous because men don't use condoms anymore and don't realize the danger behind every foreign sexual contact.
There are ways to prevent, if you are carfull and don't have f* with every one. Every sexual contact with persons you can't be sure they are not infected should be prohibited or exercised with a condom!!
more than 5% of the Nigerian population are officially infected and there is a high number of unreported cases but there are countries with more than 30% of their population concerned!
I really hope that media will check that spreading news like wondercure and non-existence of AIDS will lead into a disaster and that if rules and efficient information about this threat are send there would be less ignorance and incertitude about the subject.
So please, don't forget the disease exists and you are the only person who can protect you against it!!! Take care of you and tell doing so also to your friends and family!!!

Hi guys, where you people today? What other things interest you from discussing health? come on! I feel this is a petinent issue which we must touch each day before we go elsewhere.

In fact, a lot has been said about AIDS, a lot has been seen caused by AIDS. I don't know what people want us to do next for them to believe in the existence of this deadly dease. It is not like preaching AIDS again. Just believe and take to your measures to protect yourself and discover a lot.

Good luck!

Magic Johnson can still be alive because there are drugs to contain it but they are very expensive and the average Nigerian cannot afford it.



Antiretroviral drugs are used to stop the multiplication of the virus and for now no drugs has been known to cure HIV/AIDS.Magic Johnson is now freed from it as the virus manifest to Aids in man after 10 years an it's been like 15years the guy got it.So sometimes you find it diffult to believe HIV/AIDS ever exist but for me i still take normal precautions as they say prevention is better than cure.AND GREATPETER,I NEVER KNEW WE HAD A DOCTOR IN THE HOUSE

Magic Johnson is not cured yet, he is still living with it but the drugs are there to aid him. I admire the dude's courage and level of success.

HIV/AIDS is REAL and It's a deadly disease that has no cure except God in His mercies really perfrm his miracle, I don't doubt God's works but human beings that claimed they have found the cure. Let's take a glance at the socio-global epidemic:

HIV (Human Immunodeficiency Virus) is a virus that causes AIDS (Acquired Immunodeficiency Syndrome), a health condition in which a person is affected by a series of diseases because of poor immunity. HIV by itself is not an illness and does not instantly lead to AIDS. An HIV infected person can lead a healthy life for several years before s/he develops AIDS.

I believe HIV/AIDS is not a fast killing disease/illness but the people that got infected die so soon or get so lean and thin because the moment they found out they were positive, their lives took a dramastic turn and they start thinking and develop other heart related illnesses.

The spread of HIV/AIDS in Nigeria is caused by ignorance. I can recollect in my secondary school, when we were having Biology class, and  the topic-PUBERTY comes up, everyone  felt shy and didn't want the teacher to treat the topic as he wanted to because the girls didn't want the guys to hear about their breast , menstruation or the hair on their armpits. As I believe this is still happening in our secondary schools, we need to introduce real sex education as a core subjects in school. When the students don't want to hear about how their body works or changes , how will they be able to handle the opposite sex and this is where tennage pregnancy comes in because both individuals are ignorant. Same with HIV/AIDS, most youths and adults believe it's something among americans, or let me use the word"oyinbo" as they call them. We mustn't sit back and let this epdemic eat up our leaders of tomorrow. We all must join hands together for a HIV/AIDS free nation thogh it might take a while but it's possible.

you guys should read Hot-Zone by richard preston. HIV did originate from Congo (the rainforests to be exact. probably from a monkey or some organism i'm not sure )

a lot of disease (ebola) came from that place too.

that book is scarry.

WesleyanA:

you guys should read Hot-Zone by richard preston. HIV did originate from Congo (the rainforests to be exact. probably from a monkey or some organism i'm not sure )

a lot of disease (ebola) came from that place too.

that book is scarry.

So how can I lay my hand on the book or any web site?
I will appreciate.
Not all one puts down in book are correct sha.
He can make his views known and makes his money.

obong:

AIDS didn't come from Congo. Don't buy that

It did. It's originally a retro virus that was common in monkeys in the Congo bassin, but it mutated. It is assumed that it jumped species because it's very common in Congo to eat monkey meat and that creates a lot of opportunity for the virus to infect humans

Please visit http://www.who.int/hiv/en/ and http://www.unaids.org/EN/default.asp for more info
These are reputable sources concerning HIV/AIDS. Please do not follow the advice of the conspiracy theory advocates

thanks a lot nferyn

I always have so much pity for da HIV/AIDS victim, it's just so sad , I haven't known ne one with da disease yet, but I pray God would preserve and cure(if possible)them AMEN!!!

nferyn:

It did. It's originally a retro virus that was common in monkeys in the Congo bassin, but it mutated. It is assumed that it jumped species because it's very common in Congo to eat monkey meat and that creates a lot of opportunity for the virus to infect humans

Please visit http://www.who.int/hiv/en/ and http://www.unaids.org/EN/default.asp for more info
These are reputable sources concerning HIV/AIDS. Please do not follow the advice of the conspiracy theory advocates

people lets not buy into this theory bandied around by the western media, everyone always blames Africa when something bad happens, i'm surprised they've not said the bird flu originated from Africa.
If it originated in the congo basin in Africa, how come the first cases were identified in San francisco in the early 80s. HIV/AIDs was first identified within the Gay community in San Francisco.

The jury is still out as to where the virus came from, if it came from the congo then some gay guy from california must have 'shagged' a monkey then

Anyway on a serious note, who cares where it came from? this thing is gradually killing the next generation of Africans because of a lack of awareness and education. we all need to be aware of the dangers and be very careful of who we jump into bed with.

Don't be another AIDs statistic, practice safe sex

peace

AIDS is real! I have seen victims before!

ijebuman:

people lets not buy into this theory bandied around by the western media, everyone always blames Africa when something bad happens, i'm surprised they've not said the bird flu originated from Africa.
If it originated in the congo basin in Africa, how come the first cases were identified in San francisco in the early 80s. HIV/AIDs was first identified within the Gay community in San Francisco.

The study of the DNA of the different HIV strains and that of those monkey originated viruses shows that HIV is a mutation of one of these viruses. Of course this does not blame Africa for anything in the least (what would Africa have to do with a naturally mutating virus anyway). The exact route the virus took from those monkeys to the Gay community in San Fransisco is another matter entirely and we will probably never know (unless of course real evidence pops up that links the experiments the Atlanta Center for Disease Control was conducting in Congo and HIV - but I wouldn't hold my breath, if they had anything to do with it, they've probably erased their tracks)

ijebuman:

The jury is still out as to where the virus came from, if it came from the congo then some gay guy from california must have 'shagged' a monkey then

Maybe the above mentioned experiments were the link, but we will probably never know. Anyway, sex is not the only method of HIV transmission

ijebuman:

Anyway on a serious note, who cares where it came from? this thing is gradually killing the next generation of Africans because of a lack of awareness and education. we all need to be aware of the dangers and be very careful of who we jump into bed with.

Don't be another AIDs statistic, practice safe sex

peace

Fully agree

news story of some guy 'cured' of HIV in the UK http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/4434806.stm

nferyn thanks you make some valid points. The reason why i said we should be wary of accepting the western media version of events is that no one truly knows how this virus started infecting people. the virus must have been lying dormant somewhere before someone went to disturb it.
The whole theory about people eating monkey meat in congo and thats how it started is BS. These people don dey eat this meat for hundred of years and nothing happened to them. For all we know the virus could have come from outer space may be from a meteorite that crashed or something (joking  )

The western media is portraying this disease as an African disease simply because Africa has the highest number of people infected, period. In the UK as far as there are concerned if you recently arrived from west Africa then you must have the HIV virus unless a test shows otherwise.

nferyn:

Anyway, sex is not the only method of HIV transmission

Sex (full and oral) is still the easiest way people can get the virus compared to other ways, i mentioned MouthAction as people sometimes think this is safe, It is not as if the receiving partner has a sore on the mouth the virus can also enter the blood stream through this route.

ijebuman:

news story of some guy 'cured' of HIV in the UK http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/4434806.stm

nferyn thanks you make some valid points. The reason why i said we should be wary of accepting the western media version of events is that no one truly knows how this virus started infecting people. the virus must have been lying dormant somewhere before someone went to disturb it.
The whole theory about people eating monkey meat in congo and thats how it started is BS. These people don dey eat this meat for hundred of years and nothing happened to them. For all we know the virus could have come from outer space may be from a meteorite that crashed or something (joking )

You should indeed be wary of the portrayal of Africa by western media. The problem is that the further something is away from the the core constituency of the media, the more spectacular or negative the event needs to be to make it into the media at all. That's why most western media give a very distorted portrayal of Africa.

The story about people eating monkey meat could have a grain of truth in it. It is very unlikely that the transfer happened by simply eating monkey meat, but the war in Congo caused a lot of people to rely more and more on bushmeat and they thus ventured deeper and deeper into the forest. By doing so, they came in contact with previously undisturbed populations of monkeys that could be carrying the virus. The people hunting these monkeys could have been scratched by these monkeys, as some monkeys can be quite strong and violent.

ijebuman:

The western media is portraying this disease as an African disease simply because Africa has the highest number of people infected, period. In the UK as far as there are concerned if you recently arrived from west Africa then you must have the HIV virus unless a test shows otherwise.

And then the UK is probably the most liberal country in Europe Sad ignorant idiots. Did you go through this or do you know of some people that went through this?

ijebuman:

Sex (full and oral) is still the easiest way people can get the virus compared to other ways, i mentioned MouthAction as people sometimes think this is safe, It is not as if the receiving partner has a sore on the mouth the virus can also enter the blood stream through this route.

Sure, but the initial transfer was probably through direct blood contact. Another interesting note is that the strain of HIV that is prevalent in Africa is different from the one that is dominant in America and Europe. It is not unlikely that the in ital infection happened independently

nferyn:

And then the UK is probably the most liberal country in Europe Sad ignorant idiots. Did you go through this or do you know of some people that went through this?
Sure, but the initial transfer was probably through direct blood contact. Another interesting note is that the strain of HIV that is prevalent in Africa is different from the one that is dominant in America and Europe. It is not unlikely that the in ital infection happened independently

they are ignorant, I am aware that one of the questions they ask when you want to donate blood or if you visit an STD clinic for a test is 'Have you recently slept with/had unprotected sex with someone who has recently arrived from west africa or have you recently travelled there etc.
An ex girlfriend of mine who is Indian called me up a while ago as she wanted to donate blood and she mentioned that she used to go out with an 'African'. They were asking her all these questions, you can't imagine how pissed off i was been asked if i had unprotected sex the last time i visited Nigeria...

China and India currently have a high number of cases and no one is picking on their citizens.

Anyway enough of my rant, I just hope that Africans can wake up to the reality of what this disease is and ensure that they do not become infected through our 'usual' sexual practices.

The cure for HIV is in the Virus itself. It also lies outside the virus but intensive internal properties are likley to be more effective in dealing with it. So the question now is how do we destroy the living cells in the Virus? That is what the world is currently doing and hopefully cure will emerge. Just like malaria killed millions before its cure was found. So will this be..

larger_20:

The cure for HIV is in the Virus itself. It also lies outside the virus but intensive internal properties are likley to be more effective in dealing with it. So the question now is how do we destroy the living cells in the Virus? That is what the world is currently doing and hopefully cure will emerge. Just like malaria killed millions before its cure was found. So will this be..

A virus isn't a cell, it's even not a DNA. It's some RNA that uses a host cell to replicate. The fact that it is so small, that it's 'life' cycle is so short, that a smaller percentage of mutations is harmfull to the virus, ... all cause the virus to mutate so quickly that it is extremely hard to find any treatment that targets the the virus itself, rather than the symptoms.
There are no effective cures against virusses
We currently have not found a cure against malaria. It can be contained to a certain degree, but [i]cures [/i]are not available.

nferyn

In africa, many people with malaria get cured with drugs found in a quinine tree in the late 18th century in India. If the cure for malaria is not found by now, a lot of people would have been dead
...As for HIV, I think u r right about the RNA thing and the weakness of the virus which makes it to multiply in greater number in the cells. It will be very difficult to destroy the virus without having our own body destroyed...I think though that this virus can be elimited from the blood through dyalisis....If these virus can be moved to the blood stream though drug intakes. The dyalisis method will get it out of the body..This willl definitly work..I am preety sure...

nferyn:

We currently have not found a cure against malaria. It can be contained to a certain degree, but cures [/i]are not available.

Definition of 'cure' (from dictionary.com)
[i]
  cure (kyr)n.

  Restoration of health; recovery from disease.
  A method or course of treatment used to restore health.
  An agent that restores health; a remedy.

nferyn I disagree, you can cure malaria but there is no vaccine to prevent it or stop it from reoccurring if you're exposed to it again. Malaria "can't be contained to a certain degree" as you either have the parasites in your body or you don't (which is the case when you are treated for it i.e cured) .

larger_20:

...As for HIV, I think you're right about the RNA thing and the weakness of the virus which makes it to multiply in greater number in the cells. It will be very difficult to destroy the virus without having our own body destroyed...I think though that this virus can be elimited from the blood through dyalisis.If these virus can be moved to the blood stream though drug intakes. The dyalisis method will get it out of the body..This willl definitly work..I am preety sure...

you can't be serious
Mate you're wasting your talents here, you should be working for big pharmaceutical companies like Roche, SmithKline Beecham, Pfizer