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Re: The 10commandments And Law Of Moses, Are They The Same Law? by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:30pm On Sep 05, 2021
blueAgent:

Your own god is not the God of the Bible, becos the God of the Bible has told us that only by obeying his commandments can one be his people, is obvious your people can not be God's people becos you don't obey God's 10commandments, so you better start looking for your own god.
The evidence that you know God and God knows you is by keeping his commandments and not by feelings.
1 John 2:3 And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.
2:4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
Matthew 15:8 This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me. 15:9 But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.

Everyone on this planet is ready to tell you that his/her God is the Author of the Bible nah! cheesy
But the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob has a people that's RECOGNIZABLE. So if you don't know them then you're deceiving yourself! smiley
Re: The 10commandments And Law Of Moses, Are They The Same Law? by blueAgent(m): 8:29pm On Sep 05, 2021
MaxInDHouse:


Everyone on this planet is ready to tell you that his/her God is the Author of the Bible nah! cheesy
But the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob has a people that's RECOGNIZABLE. So if you don't know them then you're deceiving yourself! smiley

Show me one Bible verse that proves or give evidence of God's own people.
And I would show that they must be God's 10commandments obeying people.
Re: The 10commandments And Law Of Moses, Are They The Same Law? by blueAgent(m): 8:31pm On Sep 05, 2021
Dtruthspeaker:


These days, lot's of Shiit have been said by people who have Bibles, so... nothing new.

What matters most is what God said not man.

And God's word says the laws of Moses are no longer binding on a believers hence it is abolished.
Re: The 10commandments And Law Of Moses, Are They The Same Law? by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:17pm On Sep 05, 2021
blueAgent:

Show me one Bible verse that proves or give evidence of God's own people.
And I would show that they must be God's 10commandments obeying people.

Simeon hath declared how God at the first did visit the Gentiles, to take out of them a people for his name. Act 15:14 cheesy
Re: The 10commandments And Law Of Moses, Are They The Same Law? by Dtruthspeaker: 9:56pm On Sep 05, 2021
blueAgent:


What matters most is what God said not man.

And God's word says the laws of Moses are no longer binding on a believers hence it is abolished.

As you choose to bend it like jw the way you wish it to be where you think such interpretation shall reduce your liability and culpability for disobeying them.

I have already given you The Law Full interpretation of it but you have rejected it, now therefore it is up to The Judge and The Law to decide betwixt us, Blessings or Curses as Written.

May the Curse of The Word fall greatly on he who lies and deceives such that one of us will one day come here to lament as Vctorinho in hell has done because of the evil which cometh upon the soul of such a one who speaketh leasings in The Name of The Lord!
Re: The 10commandments And Law Of Moses, Are They The Same Law? by Nobody: 4:35am On Sep 06, 2021
Splinz:


Hello bro, good to hear from you. Well done.

You too, my friend.
Good to know you're still out here from time to time... I didn't see you for awhile !
Please know when I see the name "Splinz" out here, I smile. smiley
And now... BlueAgent too !

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Re: The 10commandments And Law Of Moses, Are They The Same Law? by blueAgent(m): 6:00am On Sep 06, 2021
Dtruthspeaker:


As you choose to bend it like jw the way you wish it to be where you think such interpretation shall reduce your liability and culpability for disobeying them.

I have already given you The Law Full interpretation of it but you have rejected it, now therefore it is up to The Judge and The Law to decide betwixt us, Blessings or Curses as Written.

May the Curse of The Word fall greatly on he who lies and deceives such that one of us will one day come here to lament as Vctorinho in hell has done because of the evil which cometh upon the soul of such a one who speaketh leasings in The Name of The Lord!








This is a straight simple question and you cannot answer.

Are you arguing with me or the Bible or Apostles Paul?
Becos I was not the one that said Moses law has been abolished, but the Bible.


Ephesians 2:15 Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace;

Colossians 2:14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;

Do you have any evidence that is contrary to this Bible verses?
Re: The 10commandments And Law Of Moses, Are They The Same Law? by blueAgent(m): 6:07am On Sep 06, 2021
MaxInDHouse:


Simeon hath declared how God at the first did visit the Gentiles, to take out of them a people for his name. Act 15:14 cheesy

I laugh at you.
This is not an answer.

Did the Bible say the people were JW?

Acts 15:4 And when they were come to Jerusalem, they were received of the church, and of the apostles and elders, and they declared all things that God had done with them. 15:5 But there rose up certain of the sect of the Pharisees which believed, saying, That it was needful to circumcise them, and to command them to keep the law of Moses.

It's ironic that the verse you quoted proved that God's 10commandments is different from the laws of Moses.
Re: The 10commandments And Law Of Moses, Are They The Same Law? by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:30am On Sep 06, 2021
blueAgent:

I laugh at you.
This is not an answer.
Did the Bible say the people were JW?
Acts 15:4 And when they were come to Jerusalem, they were received of the church, and of the apostles and elders, and they declared all things that God had done with them. 15:5 But there rose up certain of the sect of the Pharisees which believed, saying, That it was needful to circumcise them, and to command them to keep the law of Moses.
It's ironic that the verse you quoted proved that God's 10commandments is different from the laws of Moses.

It's simple God has a PEOPLE for his name and this has nothing to do with the laws of the first Covenant even though those Jews still thinks the laws (including the ten commandments) must be inculcated into the hearts of those in the New Covenant but the Apostles and God's Holy Spirit says "NO!" that's why they rounded up everything in just a speech:

For the holy spirit and we ourselves have favored adding no further burden to you except these necessary things: to keep abstaining from things sacrificed to idols, from blood, from what is strangled, and from sexual immorality. If you carefully keep yourselves from these things, you will prosper. Good health to you!” Act 15:28-29

In the New Covenant God's Holy Spirit and the Apostles said the only laws that Christians should keep in mind are:

To avoid things sacrificed to idols like ~ birthdays, valentine day, christmas, new year and many that's not practiced by God's servants. We must not eat anything they present along with these things because they're doing it for demons! 1Corinthians 10:20

To abstain from blood ~ God's word condemned eating of blood {Genesis 9:4} so we must abstain from blood in any way Satan tries to present it (including blood transfusion)


To avoid animals strangled ~ meats that's not bled for the blood to come out, we mustn't eat because it's the same as eating blood!

To avoid sexual immorality ~ Homosexualism, Lesbianism, Fornication, Adultery, Bestiality must be avoided.


If we keep these in mind we are OK as God's Holy People so if you're not satisfied with what God's Holy Spirit and Jesus' Apostles concluded you can continue with your ten commandments no wahala! smiley
Re: The 10commandments And Law Of Moses, Are They The Same Law? by Splinz(m): 8:41am On Sep 06, 2021
awitness41:


You too, my friend.
Good to know you're still out here from time to time... I didn't see you for awhile !
Please know when I see the name "Splinz" out here, I smile. smiley
And now... BlueAgent too !

Quite humbly to hear. Be assured that your zeal for the truth of God's word has not gone unnoticed.

Thank you.

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Re: The 10commandments And Law Of Moses, Are They The Same Law? by Dtruthspeaker: 11:12am On Sep 06, 2021
blueAgent:

Ephesians 2:15 Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace;

Colossians 2:14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;

Do you have any evidence that is contrary to this Bible verses?

Key words (the highlight) are in there which if you paid attention to, you would remember The Laws and Instructions which cover those specific subject matter.

Secondly, on "for to make in himself of twain one new man" Do you not see this is the Merger and Absorption of The Law Unto Himself as Evidenced by The Meeting Between Himself, Moses and Elijah?

Having absorbed The Law shall He not become The Law?

And when He became The Law shall He not issue Out The Law?

And did He not clearly direct "Keep my Commandments"?

And was The Commandment not His own in Mount Horeb?

Also remember when He Came, He Said He was not going to Judge then, but are we not now awaiting His Coming where He shall now Judge?

And when He comes to Judge shall His Judgement not be based on Law? (I wonder if you even know THAT ALL JUDGEMENTS ARE ALWAYS BASED ON LAW, WITHOUT VARIATION AND WAIVER?)

Look at the Comments on His forth coming Judgements are they not based on Law? Eg Malachi 3:5,18, Chapter 4:1

See particularly the instruction in Malachi 4:4 (if you like) and you can already see that Malachi 4 is talking about Judgement Day!
Re: The 10commandments And Law Of Moses, Are They The Same Law? by blueAgent(m): 8:57pm On Sep 06, 2021
Dtruthspeaker:


Key words (the highlight) are in there which if you paid attention to, you would remember The Laws and Instructions which cover those specific subject matter.

Secondly, on "for to make in himself of twain one new man" Do you not see this is the Merger and Absorption of The Law Unto Himself as Evidenced by The Meeting Between Himself, Moses and Elijah?

Having absorbed The Law shall He not become The Law?

And when He became The Law shall He not issue Out The Law?

And did He not clearly direct "Keep my Commandments"?

And was The Commandment not His own in Mount Horeb?

Also remember when He Came, He Said He was not going to Judge then, but are we not now awaiting His Coming where He shall now Judge?

And when He comes to Judge shall His Judgement not be based on Law? (I wonder if you even know THAT ALL JUDGEMENTS ARE ALWAYS BASED ON LAW, WITHOUT VARIATION AND WAIVER?)

Look at the Comments on His forth coming Judgements are they not based on Law? Eg Malachi 3:5,18, Chapter 4:1

See particularly the instruction in Malachi 4:4 (if you like) and you can already see that Malachi 4 is talking about Judgement Day!






You proved nothing, you just twisted Bible verses to suit your arguments.

That Bible verse is clear, what was abolished was the law of commandments contained in Ordinances, of course this is the law of Moses becos the 10commandments do not contain ordinances.

God is clear on this subject, the laws of Moses are no longer needed becos Christ has fufilled all the requirements of the law of Moses.

He would Judge based on the 10commandments and not the law of Moses.
Apostle Jame spoke on this.

James 2:10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all. 2:11 For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law. 2:12 So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty.


Would God punish me for not been circumcised,offering lambs for my sin, e.t.c ?
The answer is NO.

Colossians 2:16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days: 2:17 Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.

But would he punish me for stealing,fornicating, bowing to other gods,e.t.c the answer is big YES.
Hebrews 13:4 Marriage is honourable in all, and the bed undefiled: but whoremongers and adulterers God will judge.
Re: The 10commandments And Law Of Moses, Are They The Same Law? by blueAgent(m): 9:15pm On Sep 06, 2021
MaxInDHouse:


It's simple God has a PEOPLE for his name and this has nothing to do with the laws of the first Covenant even though those Jews still thinks the laws (including the ten commandments) must be inculcated into the hearts of those in the New Covenant but the Apostles and God's Holy Spirit says "NO!" that's why they rounded up everything in just a speech:

For the holy spirit and we ourselves have favored adding no further burden to you except these necessary things: to keep abstaining from things sacrificed to idols, from blood, from what is strangled, and from sexual immorality. If you carefully keep yourselves from these things, you will prosper. Good health to you!” Act 15:28-29

In the New Covenant God's Holy Spirit and the Apostles said the only laws that Christians should keep in mind are:

To avoid things sacrificed to idols like ~ birthdays, valentine day, christmas, new year and many that's not practiced by God's servants. We must not eat anything they present along with these things because they're doing it for demons! 1Corinthians 10:20

To abstain from blood ~ God's word condemned eating of blood {Genesis 9:4} so we must abstain from blood in any way Satan tries to present it (including blood transfusion)


To avoid animals strangled ~ meats that's not bled for the blood to come out, we mustn't eat because it's the same as eating blood!

To avoid sexual immorality ~ Homosexualism, Lesbianism, Fornication, Adultery, Bestiality must be avoided.


If we keep these in mind we are OK as God's Holy People so if you're not satisfied with what God's Holy Spirit and Jesus' Apostles concluded you can continue with your ten commandments no wahala! smiley


That's a big lie the Apostles never said the only laws the Gentiles should obey is those you mentioned.

Are you insinuating that the Apostles advocated that the Gentiles should steal,lie, bow to other gods use the name of God in vain since they did not mention this ones?


Any reasonable person would know that those were just few examples given by the Apostles to the Gentiles but it was not limited to those ones mentioned.
If there is any doubt of the laws we should obey, subsequent verses makes it clear that we must including the Gentiles,obey the 10commandments.


Here is Apostle James.

James 2:9 But if ye have respect to persons, ye commit sin, and are convinced of the law as transgressors. 2:10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all. 2:11 For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law. 2:12 So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty.


Here is Paul.

Romans 13:8 Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law. 13:9 For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. 13:10 Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.


Stop using the Holyspirit to justify your disobedience the Holy spirit only works or cooperate with us when we are willing to obey the commandments of God.

Obey God: “And we are his witnesses of these things; and so is also the Holy Ghost, whom God hath given to them that obey him” (Acts 5:32). Jesus says, “If ye love me, keep my commandments. And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever; Even the Spirit of truth” (John 14:15, 16, 17). Those who are born from above have God as their Father and resemble Him in character ( 1 John 3:1–3; John 8:39, 44). Henceforth, they aspire, by the grace of Christ, to live above sin (Rom. 6:12–16) and do not yield their wills to commit sin (1 John 3:9; 5:18)

Ask yourself what is Sin?
Re: The 10commandments And Law Of Moses, Are They The Same Law? by blueAgent(m): 9:24pm On Sep 06, 2021
MaxInDHouse:


It's simple God has a PEOPLE for his name and this has nothing to do with the laws of the first Covenant even though those Jews still thinks the laws (including the ten commandments) must be inculcated into the hearts of those in the New Covenant but the Apostles and God's Holy Spirit says "NO!" that's why they rounded up everything in just a speech:

For the holy spirit and we ourselves have favored adding no further burden to you except these necessary things: to keep abstaining from things sacrificed to idols, from blood, from what is strangled, and from sexual immorality. If you carefully keep yourselves from these things, you will prosper. Good health to you!” Act 15:28-29

In the New Covenant God's Holy Spirit and the Apostles said the only laws that Christians should keep in mind are:

To avoid things sacrificed to idols like ~ birthdays, valentine day, christmas, new year and many that's not practiced by God's servants. We must not eat anything they present along with these things because they're doing it for demons! 1Corinthians 10:20

To abstain from blood ~ God's word condemned eating of blood {Genesis 9:4} so we must abstain from blood in any way Satan tries to present it (including blood transfusion)


To avoid animals strangled ~ meats that's not bled for the blood to come out, we mustn't eat because it's the same as eating blood!

To avoid sexual immorality ~ Homosexualism, Lesbianism, Fornication, Adultery, Bestiality must be avoided.


If we keep these in mind we are OK as God's Holy People so if you're not satisfied with what God's Holy Spirit and Jesus' Apostles concluded you can continue with your ten commandments no wahala! smiley




That's not truth becos God said in his new convenant he would write his law(10commandments) in our hearts.

Hebrews 8:10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:

No one can deny that God is referring to the 10commandments here, becos God was the one that wrote it the first time and is saying that in the new covenant he would still write it, but not on stone but in our hearts.


Apostle James also made it clear that we are to obey the entire 10commandments not just the one we feel like obeying.

James 2:10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all. 2:11 For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law. 2:12 So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty.


I would be the happiest person on earth if God has abolished his 10commandments, becos I have my weakness which are contrary to God's commandments but mere wishes cannot make it true.
If you like deny it from today till eternity God cannot change.
Re: The 10commandments And Law Of Moses, Are They The Same Law? by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:38am On Sep 07, 2021
Don't worry, i've told you what i beleive and how we apply God's word as His people so go and settle with your fellow trinitarians.
We are OK! smiley

blueAgent:

That's not truth becos God said in his new convenant he would write his law(10commandments) in our hearts.
Hebrews 8:10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:
No one can deny that God is referring to the 10commandments here, becos God was the one that wrote it the first time and is saying that in the new covenant he would still write it, but not on stone but I our hearts.
Apostle James also made it clear that we are to obey the entire 10commandments not just the one we feel like obeying.
James 2:10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all. 2:11 For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law. 2:12 So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty.
I would be the happiest person on earth if God has abolished his 10commandments, becos I have my weakness which are contrary to God's commandments but mere wishes cannot make it true.
If you like deny it from today till eternity God cannot change.
Re: The 10commandments And Law Of Moses, Are They The Same Law? by Dtruthspeaker: 4:48am On Sep 07, 2021
blueAgent:

You proved nothing, you just twisted Bible verses to suit your arguments.

You are the one who has shortened The Law, in spite and defiance of Christ clear pronouncement of Keep My Commandments and Malachi 4:1 because you think to escape guilt.

This is where you learn "Your Cutting Out and reduction of Law is no Excuse".

blueAgent:

That Bible verse is clear, what was abolished was the law of commandments contained in Ordinances, of course this is the law of Moses becos the 10commandments do not contain ordinances.

The Bible verse does not abolish anything.

Since you have abolished it, keep your abolishment until The Day The Judge shall Judge betwixt us.
Re: The 10commandments And Law Of Moses, Are They The Same Law? by blueAgent(m): 4:49am On Sep 07, 2021
Dtruthspeaker:


Since you have abolished it, keep your abolishment until The Day The Judge shall Judge betwixt us.

Good, by till then, stop misquoting God's word.
Re: The 10commandments And Law Of Moses, Are They The Same Law? by blueAgent(m): 4:51am On Sep 07, 2021
MaxInDHouse:
Don't worry, i've told you what i beleive and how we apply God's word as His people so go and settle with your fellow trinitarians.
We are OK! smiley


It's like you forget things easily and it's obvious you are more intrested in pleasing men than God.
Re: The 10commandments And Law Of Moses, Are They The Same Law? by Dtruthspeaker: 4:54am On Sep 07, 2021
blueAgent:

Good, by till then, stop misquoting God's word.

The Curse and Woes of Lawyers shall also be upon since you come to play Law and pevert The Law!

No one goes to the mechanic to receive treatment when they are sick nor do they go to the carpenter when they have a head problem.
Re: The 10commandments And Law Of Moses, Are They The Same Law? by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:16am On Sep 07, 2021
Your problem is inability to discern the import of the noun "God" there is no God without worshipers, if you can't PRESENT a group of people doing the will of your God it simply means your reading and studying the book (Bible) is futile! 2Timothy 3:7 wink

blueAgent:

It's like you forget things easily and it's obvious you are more intrested in pleasing men than God.
Re: The 10commandments And Law Of Moses, Are They The Same Law? by blueAgent(m): 6:10am On Sep 07, 2021
MaxInDHouse:
Your problem is inability to discern the import of the noun "God" there is no God without worshipers, if you can't PRESENT a group of people doing the will of your God it simply means your reading and studying the book (Bible) is futile! 2Timothy 3:7 wink


You are confused.
So God was not existing or God enough before he created man and worshipers?

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Re: The 10commandments And Law Of Moses, Are They The Same Law? by blueAgent(m): 6:18am On Sep 07, 2021
Dtruthspeaker:


The Curse and Woes of Lawyers shall also be upon since you come to play Law and pevert The Law!

No one goes to the mechanic to receive treatment when they are sick nor do they go to the carpenter when they have a head problem.

You are confused, God's law is not open for man's interpretation or manipulation.

You are deceiving yourself with your lawyer attitude.

What you fail to understand that God did not find it important to consult or use lawyers in delivering his word.

Look at all the Discples and Apostles how many of them were lawyers, many of them were fishermen,carpenters, traders e.t.c.

Stop deceiving yourself.
Re: The 10commandments And Law Of Moses, Are They The Same Law? by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:23am On Sep 07, 2021
blueAgent:

You are confused.
So God was not existing or God enough before he created man and worshipers?

His existence has nothing to do with worship if He didn't create us, He would have remained all alone. The reason why you're here typing all these is not to tell people to acknowledge God but to WORSHIP Him. So for your write-up to make real sense you should be able to drive home your point by PRESENTING the group of people PRACTICING what you're trying to say otherwise there's nothing to your write-up.

God is God on His own, it's the group of worshipers that makes others around know the qualities of your God not what the Bible says because there are many books referred to as "INSPIRED" therefore if it's just to continue arguing on what the book says you can do that for all eternity without any result. But when you're able to PRESENT a group of worshipers practicing what you're saying then you've spoken in volumes about the God you are talking about! Hebrews 12:1
Re: The 10commandments And Law Of Moses, Are They The Same Law? by Dtruthspeaker: 6:53am On Sep 07, 2021
blueAgent:

You are confused, God's law is not open for man's interpretation or manipulation.

Says the Unlearned Estate Agent (or is it Clearing Agent ? I don't care)who has interpreted The Law to say The Law has been abolished.

blueAgent:

You are deceiving yourself with your lawyer attitude.

What you fail to understand that God did not find it important to consult or use lawyers in delivering his word.

Look at all the Discples and Apostles how many of them were lawyers, many of them were fishermen,carpenters, traders e.t.c.

Stop deceiving yourself.

And Peter, the disciples clearly Warned you all that Lawyer Paul's Writing is hard for the unlearned to understand.

And you are an illiterate when it comes to Law.

Those Writings can only be rightly read and understood by Lawyers and not by anyone who can read English.

To think that it is still the same English Language a Lawyer writes you, yet you all run up and down seeking Lawyers to tell you the Truth of what that Lawyer has written.

And this is done over simple events of living eg misunderstandings in Contract, allegations of offence and crime etc things which "KILL YOUR FLESH ONLY"

But when it comes to your own soul, you are willing to gamble with it, and yet ye shall say ye Love to Live!

No sir, ye shall die as all criminals and the condemned shall die because thou hast broken The Law and keepest it not.

As I said before, you have a right to gamble with your soul, and thy blood shall be upon thine own head for the heavens and the earth and Nairaland surely do bear witness that I have warned thee, but thou did not heed, exactly as Israel did not need the Warnings of the Prophets!

Nonetheless, I have accomplished my work of warning thee to not Forsake The Law and it's Statutes and it's Ordinances and its Judgements, if thou lovest to Live and Escape the Condemnation of being Found Guilty of Breaking The Law, on the Day, The Most Highest Court of the Whole Earth shall be Convened!
Re: The 10commandments And Law Of Moses, Are They The Same Law? by Dtruthspeaker: 7:39am On Sep 07, 2021
blueAgent:


You are confused, God's law is not open for man's interpretation or manipulation.

You are deceiving yourself with your lawyer attitude.

See did I not put it directly to you that it is your desire and wish to remove The Law?

Thanks Be To God that TRUTH RULES and Always and all must confess The Truth.

blueAgent:

..."I would be the happiest person on earth if God has abolished his 10commandments...

In line with your desire and wish you have now therefore commenced your own personal process of Repealing God's Laws.

And your first attack is to Remove The Ordinances and Statutes and Judgements, THEREBY COMMITTING AN OFFENCE OF DIMINISHING AND TAKING AWAY FROM THE COMMANDMENT OF GOD CONTRARY TO DEUTERONOMY 4:2 (which you also abolished) but Revelation 22:19 Catches You)

Count 2:
That you, blueAgent, on the Wednesday, August 25 at 1:21pm Did Flagrantly Disregard and Absolute Disobey of Deuteronomy 12:22 thereby COMMITTING AN OFFENCE OF REBELLION AND DISOBEDIENCE TO THE MOST HIGH, WITHIN THE JURISDICTION OF GOD, CONTRARY TO COMMANDMENT 1 OF THE LAWS OF THE GOD,

GUILTY OR NOT GUILTY?


Later, you would come to remove and abolish the remainder of The Law.

Then finally, you would remove and abolish the Bible.
Re: The 10commandments And Law Of Moses, Are They The Same Law? by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:01am On Sep 07, 2021
There are two major Gods that's demanding worship from humans, one doesn't bother anyhow people choose to worship him as long as you feel like worshipping and you cherry pick the standard that suits you, even when you switch lanes from one form of worship to another on daily basis he is OK.
The other is strict with His own principles, He wants to help so He started by introducing Himself then He placed a mirror in the face of anyone who wants to be his friend (Mosaic Laws) after which He introduced the one and only model that's best in His sight.
The mirror (laws or commandments) are to make each sinner see how dirty he looks so as to know the areas they will work on to look good before the true God but at the introduction of the model (Jesus Christ) nobody needs the mirror (laws) anymore, what each person needs now is to keep looking at the role model and try to be just like him since the one giving the pass mark said Jesus got everything perfectly!
So if some people are still dragging the mirror with themselves all what an intelligent person will ask is "where are those who have been dressed well, let's see how far they're able to look like the model?" but insisting on looking at the mirror will continue to complicate issues as many are still dragging it without been able to present themselves for the exhibition! smiley
Re: The 10commandments And Law Of Moses, Are They The Same Law? by blueAgent(m): 11:51pm On Sep 07, 2021
Dtruthspeaker:


See did I not put it directly to you that it is your desire and wish to remove The Law?

Thanks Be To God that TRUTH RULES and Always and all must confess The Truth.



In line with your desire and wish you have now therefore commenced your own personal process of Repealing God's Laws.

And your first attack is to Remove The Ordinances and Statutes and Judgements, THEREBY COMMITTING AN OFFENCE OF DIMINISHING AND TAKING AWAY FROM THE COMMANDMENT OF GOD CONTRARY TO DEUTERONOMY 4:2 (which you also abolished) but Revelation 22:19 Catches You)

Count 2:
That you, blueAgent, on the Wednesday, August 25 at 1:21pm Did Flagrantly Disregard and Absolute Disobey of Deuteronomy 12:22 thereby COMMITTING AN OFFENCE OF REBELLION AND DISOBEDIENCE TO THE MOST HIGH, WITHIN THE JURISDICTION OF GOD, CONTRARY TO COMMANDMENT 1 OF THE LAWS OF THE GOD,

GUILTY OR NOT GUILTY?


Later, you would come to remove and abolish the remainder of The Law.

Then finally, you would remove and abolish the Bible.



There is no point responding to your comment, your arguments lacks merit and direction.

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Re: The 10commandments And Law Of Moses, Are They The Same Law? by blueAgent(m): 11:55pm On Sep 07, 2021
MaxInDHouse:


His existence has nothing to do with worship if He didn't create us, He would have remained all alone. The reason why you're here typing all these is not to tell people to acknowledge God but to WORSHIP Him. So for your write-up to make real sense you should be able to drive home your point by PRESENTING the group of people PRACTICING what you're trying to say otherwise there's nothing to your write-up.

God is God on His own, it's the group of worshipers that makes others around know the qualities of your God not what the Bible says because there are many books referred to as "INSPIRED" therefore if it's just to continue arguing on what the book says you can do that for all eternity without any result. But when you're able to PRESENT a group of worshipers practicing what you're saying then you've spoken in volumes about the God you are talking about! Hebrews 12:1


The fact and truth is that God's group can not and never be JW.

Is that you do not understand English or you choose to deliberately deny the truth?

God's people are synonymous with commandments keeping.

1 John 5:2 By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments.

2 John 1:4 I rejoiced greatly that I found of thy children walking in truth, as we have received a commandment from the Father.

Revelation 12:17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

Revelation 14:12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.

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Re: The 10commandments And Law Of Moses, Are They The Same Law? by MaxInDHouse(m): 1:34am On Sep 08, 2021
blueAgent:

The fact and truth is that God's group can not and never be JW. Is that you do not understand English or you choose to deliberately deny the truth? God's people are synonymous with commandments keeping.
1 John 5:2 By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments. 2 John 1:4 I rejoiced greatly that I found of thy children walking in truth, as we have received a commandment from the Father. Revelation 12:17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ. Revelation 14:12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.

You don't have any God! cheesy

A real God will have presentable worshipers through which people can say "these are the worshipers of this or that God" {Isaiah 43:10-12; Matthew 5:13-16; John 13:34-35; Act 1:8} so as long as there's no group to PRESENT as worshipers of your God it's simple your God doesn't exist at all! cheesy
Re: The 10commandments And Law Of Moses, Are They The Same Law? by blueAgent(m): 5:29am On Sep 08, 2021
MaxInDHouse:


You don't have any God! cheesy

A real God will have presentable worshipers through which people can say "these are the worshipers of this or that God" {Isaiah 43:10-12; Matthew 5:13-16; John 13:34-35; Act 1:8} so as long as there's no group to PRESENT as worshipers of your God it's simple your God doesn't exist at all! cheesy

Keep deceiving yourself.

God's group must be those who keep his commandments and not some group that fake love and brotherhood.
Everything JW claim, is done even better by other groups including Atheists.

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Re: The 10commandments And Law Of Moses, Are They The Same Law? by blueAgent(m): 6:05am On Sep 08, 2021
MaxInDHouse:
There are two major Gods that's demanding worship from humans, one doesn't bother anyhow people choose to worship him as long as you feel like worshipping and you cherry pick the standard that suits you, even when you switch lanes from one form of worship to another on daily basis he is OK.
The other is strict with His own principles, He wants to help so He started by introducing Himself then He placed a mirror in the face of anyone who wants to be his friend (Mosaic Laws) after which He introduced the one and only model that's best in His sight.
The mirror (laws or commandments) are to make each sinner see how dirty he looks so as to know the areas they will work on to look good before the true God but at the introduction of the model (Jesus Christ) nobody needs the mirror (laws) anymore, what each person needs now is to keep looking at the role model and try to be just like him since the one giving the pass mark said Jesus got everything perfectly!
So if some people are still dragging the mirror with themselves all what an intelligent person will ask is "where are those who have been dressed well, let's see how far they're able to look like the model?" but insisting on looking at the mirror will continue to complicate issues as many are still dragging it without been able to present themselves for the exhibition! smiley

See story telling.

Pure human reasoning, nothing divine.

You think Jesus kept the 10commandments so you would not keep them?

Than ask yourself why Jesus instructed us to obey the 10commandments to gain eternal life, Jesus instructed us to teach and obey the commandments.

Revelation 22:14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.


Luke 18:19 And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? none is good, save one, that is, God. 18:20 Thou knowest the commandments, Do not commit adultery, Do not kill, Do not steal, Do not bear false witness, Honour thy father and thy mother.

God's word says the entire duty of man not Jesus duty is to obey the commandments of God.


Ecclesiastes 12:13 Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man.
Obeying the 10commandments is our proof of our love to God and our neighbours so said Jesus.

I guess Jesus would show love to God on our behalf too?



JW are misleading people to Hell.

Colossians 2:22 Which all are to perish with the usingwink after the commandments and doctrines of men?
Re: The 10commandments And Law Of Moses, Are They The Same Law? by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:29am On Sep 08, 2021
blueAgent:

Keep deceiving yourself.
God's group must be those who keep his commandments and not some group that fake love and brotherhood.
Everything JW claim, is done even better by other groups including Atheists.
So atheists don't join in killing people during political struggles or ethnic clashes or interracial wars, shey?
Well you know what is right but stubbornness is rendering you blind towards healthful teaching so continue deceiving yourself! cheesy

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