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Re: How Insufficient Anti-snake Venom, Treatment Centres Fuels Deaths In Nigeria by wunmi590(m): 6:08pm On Nov 14, 2021
Judolisco:
U sabi

cheesy
Re: How Insufficient Anti-snake Venom, Treatment Centres Fuels Deaths In Nigeria by Lionnation: 6:09pm On Nov 14, 2021
DUNDEEMASTER:
We die of ignorance in this country...How do I explain to my father in heaven that some pple are ignorant of wat to do Once a snake bites you..the first step is to tie the upper part of the affected region to prevent the Vernon from spreading throughout the body....They won't teach you this in school ooo..
you are the only one who doesn't know this
Re: How Insufficient Anti-snake Venom, Treatment Centres Fuels Deaths In Nigeria by Nobody: 6:09pm On Nov 14, 2021
When I said you have 85% chances of survival if you get bitten by a venomous snake in Brazil, it is just the truth, nigeria can learn from brazil

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Re: How Insufficient Anti-snake Venom, Treatment Centres Fuels Deaths In Nigeria by Grandmeister(m): 6:11pm On Nov 14, 2021
emmanuelbrown26:

u got it alright baba, we are too lazy to know things within us.
This believe that everything foreign is the ultimate has to stop before we would know our value.
I remember sometime ago, I happens to meet sugar level patience, so I gave them an assignment, the assignment was to squeeze onugbo (bitter leave), put it inside coolant then 1 glass cup every night for 30 days, that they should go and check their sugar level.
Could u believe that it was 25% that did what I asked them to do and it happens that when they checked their sugar level, there was drastical change (I'm not a doctor nor pharmacist, I'm only a physiotherapist)
We're talking about snake bites here not diabetes! Even oyibo people still advise us to always take fruits and vegetables so what are you saying? It is ironic that a country situated in the snake belt of the world still depends on antivenoms from outside the continent! That's fvcking crazy! That means a bite from a puff adder for example is a death sentence.

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Re: How Insufficient Anti-snake Venom, Treatment Centres Fuels Deaths In Nigeria by Nobody: 6:14pm On Nov 14, 2021
I remember David ebunu....he was bleeding thick black blood when he died in the presence of his family after 3 days of coming from the farm with 4 tiny holes in his swollen ankles..
He said it was a plant that injured him like that unknown to everyone it was a snake bite. It was horrible to lose a brother to snakebite.
Since then I have had this irrational fear of snakes
The government needs to do something about this reptiles from the pit of hell especially in South West Nigeria.

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Re: How Insufficient Anti-snake Venom, Treatment Centres Fuels Deaths In Nigeria by do4luv14(m): 6:20pm On Nov 14, 2021
wunmi590:
tongue

Majority of the snakes that was suppose to be used to get venom have been killed, roasted and ended up in human belly cheesy

I guess Nigerian have master the art of using the traditional method to treat snake bite, but as a country we still need to look beyond traditional medicine for those who reside in the cities, so that most hospitals can have them readily available...






And the major culprits are Lalala....... and Seun
Re: How Insufficient Anti-snake Venom, Treatment Centres Fuels Deaths In Nigeria by wunmi590(m): 6:21pm On Nov 14, 2021
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And the major culprits are Lalala....... and Seun[/quote]

cheesy
Re: How Insufficient Anti-snake Venom, Treatment Centres Fuels Deaths In Nigeria by emmanuelbrown26: 6:26pm On Nov 14, 2021
Grandmeister:

We're talking about snake bites here not diabetes! Even oyibo people still advise us to always take fruits and vegetables so what are you saying? It is ironic that a country situated in the snake belt of the world still depends on antivenoms from outside the continent! That's fvcking crazy! That means a bite from a puff adder for examplee is a death sentence.
Only digress a bit to phantom his point sir. From his comment, he emphasised a situation where their is no medical help, that we can use our local way
Re: How Insufficient Anti-snake Venom, Treatment Centres Fuels Deaths In Nigeria by khreus(m): 6:28pm On Nov 14, 2021
ManirBK:
Another one is that If snake bite u...try to look for bitter cola and
chew....then use new razor to tear the place till blood is out then bring cassava leaves and robb there, it will not pain u again...both snake and
scorpion.
How effective is this bro?
Have you tried it before? Or it was something you were told
Re: How Insufficient Anti-snake Venom, Treatment Centres Fuels Deaths In Nigeria by Kinematics: 6:31pm On Nov 14, 2021
shantti:
We only have to upgrade traditional healing centers, even though I've always been against them, I've realized that they save lives,

I remembered when a snake bit me in my sleep, like how the hell did a snake creep into our compound, I dont know. It was a nearby traditional center that treated me and I became fine


Most snake bites in Nigeria are from non venomous snakes. Also have you heard of dry bite before?


All snake bite cases from venomous snakes I've seen or heard of in naija, the victim almost always dies due to lack of antivenom. Naija is just messed up.
Re: How Insufficient Anti-snake Venom, Treatment Centres Fuels Deaths In Nigeria by xpool(m): 6:37pm On Nov 14, 2021
ManirBK:
My contribution on the snake bite, the victim should chew raw cassava. And tie a rope on the affected place, thats all

Cassava tuber?
What species of cassava
Re: How Insufficient Anti-snake Venom, Treatment Centres Fuels Deaths In Nigeria by Kinematics: 6:42pm On Nov 14, 2021
Remag666:
I remember David ebunu....he was bleeding thick black blood when he died in the presence of his family after 3 days of coming from the farm with 4 tiny holes in his swollen ankles..
He said it was a plant that injured him like that unknown to everyone it was a snake bite. It was horrible to lose a brother to snakebite.
Since then I have had this irrational fear of snakes
The government needs to do something about this reptiles from the pit of hell especially in South West Nigeria.


May his soul rip. Only if they had taken him to a hospital or even a pharmacy(the experienced once). The history of bleeding from 4 tiny holes on his ankle with swelling and coagulopathy while returning from the farm gives the diagnosis away as snake bite.

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Re: How Insufficient Anti-snake Venom, Treatment Centres Fuels Deaths In Nigeria by kowalsky: 6:42pm On Nov 14, 2021
yanabasee2:



The best bet for to treat snake bites or scorpion or their venomous insects is traditional....



The government paired with the western world to preach against local medicine.... And today, we can't even treat malaria with our local medicine...


In school, they will say that herbal medicine is drug abuse.. but it was the same herbs our great-grandfathers used to stay healthier and lived longer than today's men...

Which of your great grand fathers lived healthier and longer than today's men undecided
Most men died before their 40th birthday pre indepedence https://www.macrotrends.net/countries/NGA/nigeria/life-expectancy

Only now (2020s) are we seeing life expectancy approach the late 50s for men.
Stop spreading misinformation and maligned conjectures. If herbal medicine were as potent as you ignorant lot would have us believe, the whites would've stolen it from us. Just as they stole relevant things ( youth, and resources) from your forefathers.
Re: How Insufficient Anti-snake Venom, Treatment Centres Fuels Deaths In Nigeria by bigcee(m): 6:44pm On Nov 14, 2021
ManirBK:
Another one is that If snake bite u...try to look for bitter cola and
chew....then use new razor to tear the place till blood is out then bring cassava leaves and robb there, it will not pain u again...both snake and
scorpion.
Pls don't follow this advice o. Make Viper, Cobra or Black mamber no catch you undecided

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Re: How Insufficient Anti-snake Venom, Treatment Centres Fuels Deaths In Nigeria by Kinematics: 6:45pm On Nov 14, 2021
yanabasee2:



[s]The best bet for to treat snake bites or scorpion or their venomous insects is traditional....



The government paired with the western world to preach against local medicine.... And today, we can't even treat malaria with our local medicine...


In school, they will say that herbal medicine is drug abuse.. but it was the same herbs our great-grandfathers used to stay healthier and lived longer than today's men...[/s]


I hope you don't reason like this in real life.

Who told you traditional treatment is the best for snake bite?

No your great-grandfathers lived shorter than you do today.
Re: How Insufficient Anti-snake Venom, Treatment Centres Fuels Deaths In Nigeria by kowalsky: 6:46pm On Nov 14, 2021
yanabasee2:



The best bet for to treat snake bites or scorpion or their venomous insects is traditional....



The government paired with the western world to preach against local medicine.... And today, we can't even treat malaria with our local medicine...


In school, they will say that herbal medicine is drug abuse.. but it was the same herbs our great-grandfathers used to stay healthier and lived longer than today's men...


The best bet is an antivenom, don't kid yourself. Most patients you see in hospitals with debilating venom induced health problems are those who'd gone through several rounds of traditional remedies without success

Ironically, if they'd presented earlier (and supposing antivenin was available) they'd be better off for their symptoms.
Re: How Insufficient Anti-snake Venom, Treatment Centres Fuels Deaths In Nigeria by Richvibes1997: 6:48pm On Nov 14, 2021
Bleep Nigeria
Re: How Insufficient Anti-snake Venom, Treatment Centres Fuels Deaths In Nigeria by Kinematics: 6:53pm On Nov 14, 2021
ManirBK:
Another one is that If snake bite u...try to look for bitter cola and
chew....then use new razor to tear the place till blood is out then bring cassava leaves and robb there, it will not pain u again...both snake and
scorpion.


Oga I take God beg you, if this na joke stop am. Don't be spreading crass ignorance here.

Venomous snakes are no joke. Cobras, mambas and vipers are not child's play.
Re: How Insufficient Anti-snake Venom, Treatment Centres Fuels Deaths In Nigeria by kowalsky: 6:54pm On Nov 14, 2021
emmanuelbrown26:

u got it alright baba, we are too lazy to know things within us.
This believe that everything foreign is the ultimate has to stop before we would know our value.
I remember sometime ago, I happens to meet sugar level patience, so I gave them an assignment, the assignment was to squeeze onugbo (bitter leave), put it inside coolant then 1 glass cup every night for 30 days, that they should go and check their sugar level.
Could u believe that it was 25% that did what I asked them to do and it happens that when they checked their sugar level, there was drastical change (I'm not a doctor nor pharmacist, I'm only a physiotherapist)

Lol. This is how you guys will go around committing murder and beating your chest about it.

Better do what you were taught in physiotherapy school and leave diabetes management to trained doctors

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Re: How Insufficient Anti-snake Venom, Treatment Centres Fuels Deaths In Nigeria by ediko5(m): 6:57pm On Nov 14, 2021
And some people will say 'don't kill snakes'.

Let's declare a war against snakes in Nigeria, imagine 20, 000 death annually.
Re: How Insufficient Anti-snake Venom, Treatment Centres Fuels Deaths In Nigeria by deavicky(m): 7:37pm On Nov 14, 2021
No problem Nigeria. We will have to start showing snake no mercy because we cannot allow them to kill us in our own conutry.
Re: How Insufficient Anti-snake Venom, Treatment Centres Fuels Deaths In Nigeria by Temi2468: 7:41pm On Nov 14, 2021
ManirBK:
My contribution on the snake bite, the victim should chew raw cassava. And tie a rope on the affected place, thats all

But, raw cassava has hydrogen cyanide, which is toxic for human consumption.

Though my wife just commented now that it works.

What's the chemistry of action of cassava tubers against snake venom?

Is it selectively toxic?

Let's run minds

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Re: How Insufficient Anti-snake Venom, Treatment Centres Fuels Deaths In Nigeria by Haywhymido(m): 7:41pm On Nov 14, 2021
ManirBK:
the lazyness inside us is the answer bro, Africa anti snake antidote is very cheaper and effective than this foreign medicine.
it is not laziness, most medical doctors are not in support of herbal cure. So herbalist and medical doctors are like parallel lines. It would have been a good thing to create a ward in the hospital for the herbalist to carry out researches and put to use their finds with the inspection of the medical but no, the white men and their inventions are always right, a very bad mentality to have

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Re: How Insufficient Anti-snake Venom, Treatment Centres Fuels Deaths In Nigeria by emmanuelbrown26: 7:47pm On Nov 14, 2021
kowalsky:


Lol. This is how you guys will go around committing murder and beating your chest about it.

Better do what you were taught in physiotherapy school and leave diabetes management to trained doctors
I'm not trying to wave out orthodox medication, I was only trying to tell people about the efficacy of our traditional medicines.
Re: How Insufficient Anti-snake Venom, Treatment Centres Fuels Deaths In Nigeria by IceTrice01: 8:26pm On Nov 14, 2021
ManirBK:
lalasticlala this is for you the real python

But is lalasticlala really a snake lover or I'm just wondering why all snake news always enter front page
Re: How Insufficient Anti-snake Venom, Treatment Centres Fuels Deaths In Nigeria by KingMack(m): 8:46pm On Nov 14, 2021
ONLY GOD DEY SAVE US! WE MUST ALWAYS KILL THE SNAKE WITHOUT REMORSE THEN GIVE LALA THE HEAD WITH FULL BODY PICTURES TO EAT
Re: How Insufficient Anti-snake Venom, Treatment Centres Fuels Deaths In Nigeria by Nobody: 9:28pm On Nov 14, 2021
ManirBK:
My contribution on the snake bite, the victim should chew raw cassava. And tie a rope on the affected place, thats all

Does this really work?
Re: How Insufficient Anti-snake Venom, Treatment Centres Fuels Deaths In Nigeria by lojot: 9:35pm On Nov 14, 2021
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Re: How Insufficient Anti-snake Venom, Treatment Centres Fuels Deaths In Nigeria by izzy4shizzy(m): 9:50pm On Nov 14, 2021
[quote author=wunmi590 post=107616531] tongue

Majority of the snakes that was suppose to be used to get venom have been killed, roasted and ended up in human belly cheesy

I guess Nigerian have master the art of using the traditional method to treat snake bite, but as a country we still need to look beyond traditional medicine for those who reside in the cities, so that most hospitals can have them readily available...
[Quote]

If this is the case, which snakes are doing the biting??
Re: How Insufficient Anti-snake Venom, Treatment Centres Fuels Deaths In Nigeria by SilvanusII(m): 9:52pm On Nov 14, 2021
Temi2468:


But, raw cassava has hydrogen cyanide, which is toxic for human consumption.

Though my wife just commented now that it works.

What's the chemistry of action of cassava tubers against snake venom?

Is it selectively toxic?

Let's run minds

You should ask how it works. If we did know how hydrogen cyanide works, we might be able to guess how it does. Maybe it breaks down proteins which I think venoms are like.
It could also be selectively toxic. Remember hematoxic antivenins may not work for neurotoxic venoms. That's why I believe victims are asked to describe the kind of snake that bit them

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